Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 14 topics

Tuesday, July 31, 2007

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TOPIC: Photo scanning service?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 9:47 am
From: PaPaPeng

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:28:42 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>"www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTvalid@Queensbridge.us> wrote:
>
>>Why not buy a scanner on sale and do it yourself?
>
>No computer at home to hook scanner up to

Then what you really want to do is to copy the photos on a color
copier using photographic grade paper. Ask Kinko's or any self
service photocopy shop if they have a suitable copier. The color
pigments are polymer based and therefore permanent, unlike inkjets.
You can probably save quite a lot of money and effort by maximizing
the number of photos that can fit into one standard paper page. This
helps in organising your photo collection too. Another advantage is
you can enlarge selected photos and/or crop them.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 12:10 pm
From: me@privacy.net

PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Then what you really want to do is to copy the photos on a color
>copier using photographic grade paper.

I only need electronic files for the moment

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 3:42 pm
From: rick++

Kinkos rents such, but I dont know if that is cheapest.
I recall its by the hour.

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TOPIC: The Anti-Tax guys won -- round 2
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 10:16 am
From: Dennis

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:55:12 -0400, clams casino
<PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:

>Dennis wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:19:09 -0400, clams casino
>><PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another significant savings for the wealthy tends to be $10-15k/year in
>>>tax free medical subsidies (welfare for the wealthy). Most >$50k tend
>>>to get highly subsidized (tax free) medical whereas most below perhaps
>>>$50k have to pay for medical care with after tax income. That can
>>>shave a good $3-6k + /yr from income taxes for most in the upper
>>>brackets..
>>>
>>>Another is that the wealthy tend to enjoy significant housing subsidies
>>>where interest / property taxes can be tax deductible resulting in their
>>>subsidized housing asset growing higher in value vs. the average person
>>>who can't afford as much house, not having that subsidy. The end result
>>>is a nifty tax-free savings (up to 500k) when sold (as frequently as
>>>every few years).
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This is the same old tired line. Of course someone (with lower
>>income) who pays less in taxes saves less from a tax break than
>>someone (with higher income) who pays more in taxes. Duh! They
>>didn't pay the taxes in the first place.
>>
>>Completely, totally, undeniably specious argument.
>>
>>Dennis (evil)
>>
>>
>
>Duh - they paid less taxes because they earned less. So why should they
>pay a higher rate (total taxes / income ) if they earn less?
>
>As a reference - Warren Buffet likes to point out, last year he only
>paid 17.7% of his gross in taxes, yet his secretary paid about 30%
>(about the average) .
>
>
>Don't get me wrong - government medical & housing subsidies have been
>very generous for me. I'm not turning down that welfare (tax transfer).
>
> I'm just realistic to see how the US tax system favors the higher paid
>over the lower paid.

Or, put another way: the US tax system gives tax breaks to those who
pay taxes over those who don't.

Yeah, you're right -- it makes sense.

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 11:31 am
From: "dfr"

clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
> Dennis wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:19:09 -0400, clams casino
>> <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Another significant savings for the wealthy tends to be
>>> $10-15k/year in tax free medical subsidies (welfare for the
>>> wealthy). Most >$50k tend to get highly subsidized (tax free)
>>> medical whereas most below perhaps $50k have to pay for medical
>>> care with after tax income. That can shave a good $3-6k + /yr
>>> from income taxes for most in the upper brackets..
>>>
>>> Another is that the wealthy tend to enjoy significant housing
>>> subsidies where interest / property taxes can be tax deductible
>>> resulting in their subsidized housing asset growing higher in value
>>> vs. the average person who can't afford as much house, not having
>>> that subsidy. The end result is a nifty tax-free savings (up to
>>> 500k) when sold (as frequently as every few years).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This is the same old tired line. Of course someone (with lower
>> income) who pays less in taxes saves less from a tax break than
>> someone (with higher income) who pays more in taxes. Duh! They
>> didn't pay the taxes in the first place.
>>
>> Completely, totally, undeniably specious argument.
>>
>> Dennis (evil)
>>
>>
>
> Duh - they paid less taxes because they earned less. So why should
> they pay a higher rate (total taxes / income ) if they earn less?
>
> As a reference - Warren Buffet likes to point out, last year he only
> paid 17.7% of his gross in taxes, yet his secretary paid about 30%
> (about the average) .

That's what a progressive tax system is about.

And he pays a hell of a lot more tax in dollar terms than his secretary does too.

> Don't get me wrong - government medical & housing subsidies have been
> very generous for me. I'm not turning down that welfare (tax transfer).

> I'm just realistic to see how the US tax system favors the higher paid
> over the lower paid.

Pity it doesnt.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 3:50 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <GpGri.16176$g86.4794@newsfe14.lga>, clams casino wrote:
>Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>>
>> However, I still see that with-FICA/SS-excluded USA's Federal budget is
>>not as military-heavy as Clams Casino claims.
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget,_2007
>
>2007 Federal income tax receipts = $1.5 trillion (1.2 individual + 0.3
>corporate)
>
>2007 military spending = $772 billion (699 billion defense + 73 billion
>vet benefits)
>
>military = 51% without considering interest on debt.

And what if that $1.5 trillion is increased to the $1.745 trillion that
Federal spending other than SS/Medicare/debt-interest adds up to?
Minus $35 billion for motor fuel tax supported spending is $1.71 billion,
and billion is about 45% of that.

>If one assumes interest should be rated across all debt, it actually
>increases to about 60%. The percentage is even higher if one assumes
>all the Iraq invasion costs have been borrowed (has there been any new
>tax to pay for any of this relatively new expense - if not, it's all
>borrowed money).

To the nearest billion, 2007 interest on national debt was $244 billion
according to the above Wiki article. I would think the percentage of that
to be blamed on the military would be the same as average percentage of
non-SS/Medicare/debt-interest Federal spending being spent on military
during the big national debt growth years of the administrations of
Carter, Reagan, both Bushes and the first term of Clinton.
Percentage figures in all the Federal budget pie charts I see have
generally made only minor shifts since Carter's first budget. So I would
say percentage of national debt interest to blame on military is also not
too far from 45%.

I consider it untruthful to say military spending is to blame for
51% (59% including 45% of interest on debt for past military spending) of
our income tax burden, unless you would agree that the $938 billion spent
on domestic programs excluding fuel tax spanding and SS/Medicare is to be
blamed for 62.5% of our income tax burden (71.5% including 55% of interest
on debt for past non-SS/Medicaid domestic spending not supported by fuel
taxes).

>Obviously this assumes only the federal income taxes pays for military
>where SS, Medicare, gas excise taxes, etc are also collected, but pay
>only for there intended purpose. It can be argued that a portion of the
>gift, excise, customs, etc taxes also go to military, but there are
>also indirect military expenses not under defense that should also be
>considered which makes an exact calculation near impossible.
>
>Point is, nearly half (likely more) of the federal incomes taxes go just
>for military purposes..

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 10:22 am
From: "Giegelherts"

"Sniper .308" <me@my.desk> schreef in bericht
news:e7vi83daaaaqpfqtv73lnjvvao5htdb90i@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:23:45 -0700, bobandcarole
> <bobandcarole777@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good little bitch, keep tap dancing for me and prove you are a
> worthless, spineless, illiterate bitch
>>
>>You will find that out this summer when I arrive on your door step
>>Blob, People at AOL are quite helpful" --Sniper. 308

Your Tr (Tone Rate) looks like more than 40.

How about tapdancing on a rock beat which will knock your socks off.

:-)

Greetz
Wim

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TOPIC: Living on $1000 budget per month? with a wife and a kid
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 11:25 am
From: "Rod Speed"

godzilla100@gmail.com wrote:

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> www.xxxxxxx.blogspot.com
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> www.xxxxxxxxx.blogspot.com

> Pls support us by viewing the ads.

Fuck off. No please, that's an order.

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TOPIC: Access FREE Satellite TV on your PC

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 11:29 am
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 11:31 am
From: Millhaven

Sometimes I have an additional source of income. My uncle is a long
haul trucker and is often gone for days at a time, while having sole
custody of his 15 year old son who is a typical latchkey kid only
sometimes for days at a time. Not even sure if that's legal but my
uncle leaves him plenty of food, and most importantly, money.

My cousin hates going to school. Not a good student, already falling
in with a bad crowd, possibly even already using drugs. As his older
cousin, I feel it's my responsibility to help. I told him if he really
doesn't want to school, all he has to do is pay me $5 every time he
doesn't want to go and I will call the school pretending to be his
father to say he's sick and can't go.

I made over $200 off this kid last year. I just hope we aren't
overdoing it and cause some sort of investigation. But it's great for
extra beer money. Told him the next time Motley Crue goes on tour I am
"giving" him AIDS so I can afford a ticket. What do you all think?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 12:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Cant even manage a viable troll, or anything else at all, either.

Millhaven <millhaven@intergate.com> wrote:
> Sometimes I have an additional source of income. My uncle is a long
> haul trucker and is often gone for days at a time, while having sole
> custody of his 15 year old son who is a typical latchkey kid only
> sometimes for days at a time. Not even sure if that's legal but my
> uncle leaves him plenty of food, and most importantly, money.
>
> My cousin hates going to school. Not a good student, already falling
> in with a bad crowd, possibly even already using drugs. As his older
> cousin, I feel it's my responsibility to help. I told him if he really
> doesn't want to school, all he has to do is pay me $5 every time he
> doesn't want to go and I will call the school pretending to be his
> father to say he's sick and can't go.
>
> I made over $200 off this kid last year. I just hope we aren't
> overdoing it and cause some sort of investigation. But it's great for
> extra beer money. Told him the next time Motley Crue goes on tour I am
> "giving" him AIDS so I can afford a ticket. What do you all think?

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 2:45 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 31, 2:31 pm, Millhaven <millha...@intergate.com> wrote:
> Sometimes I have an additional source of income. My uncle is a long
> haul trucker and is often gone for days at a time, while having sole
> custody of his 15 year old son who is a typical latchkey kid only
> sometimes for days at a time. Not even sure if that's legal but my
> uncle leaves him plenty of food, and most importantly, money.
>
> My cousin hates going to school. Not a good student, already falling
> in with a bad crowd, possibly even already using drugs. As his older
> cousin, I feel it's my responsibility to help. I told him if he really
> doesn't want to school, all he has to do is pay me $5 every time he
> doesn't want to go and I will call the school pretending to be his
> father to say he's sick and can't go.
>
> I made over $200 off this kid last year. I just hope we aren't
> overdoing it and cause some sort of investigation. But it's great for
> extra beer money. Told him the next time Motley Crue goes on tour I am
> "giving" him AIDS so I can afford a ticket. What do you all think?

Gee, that would be more than 40 absences, more than any school system
would allow.
I think you are missing the boat by not marketing your service to the
cousin's friends or scoring some drugs from them. And does your
cousin have any female friends? I see a number of possibilities there
too with the house available. Anybody have a movie camera?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 10:57 am
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

In article <p5wri.504$qa3.79@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
sfgeorge@paccbell.net says...
> clams casino wrote:

> > George Grapman wrote:

> >> BeaForoni@msn.com wrote:

> >>> Has anyone been to UBid.com and seen the watches up for bid? They have
> >>> $4,000 watches for around fifty bucks. I am not sure what a Rousseau
> >>> Deluxe is, but it has got to be a real deal. I have a friend that buys
> >>> them, prints out the manufacturers web page and then sells them in
> >>> bars. Says he doubles his money or more.

> >> If is lists at $4,000 and is sold online got $50 it certainly must
> >> be "the real deal".

> > Do they have any land for sale at these prices?

> Yes, and for a limited time they throw in a bridge.

Don't you get those spams for watches? They are very clear that
they are pushing "replicas." I wonder if some folks buy the
fakes from the spammers, and then flog them on auction sites,
claiming it is real.

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 10:57 am
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

In article
<1185811024.737064.209200@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
seerialmom@yahoo.com says...
> I've been pondering this recently. I'm just wondering...let's say you
> inherited an acre of land, free and clear. Presuming it already has
> plumbing/sewer/electrical coming to it...how long it might take to
> build a house out of just craiglist 'free" items. I often seen
> construction/remodel leftovers. I just wish I had a free acre of land
> to test my idea.

I just saw somebody post to misc.rural about something similar.

The claim was to have purchased a used port-a-loo.
Specifically, the larger type that is designed to be wheelchair
accessible. Cost was allegedly twenty-five bucks.

Honestly, I have seen those, and could live in one if on a low
enough budget.

The story seemed a bit dodgy, since the idea is that the
actual toilet is still useable. Without consideration that the
contributions just drop into a tank which needs to be pumped out
fairly often.

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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 10:57 am
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG

In article
<1185832733.555569.89430@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
MSfortune@mcpmail.com says...
> On Jul 30, 11:57 am, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've been pondering this recently. I'm just wondering...let's say you
> > inherited an acre of land, free and clear. Presuming it already has
> > plumbing/sewer/electrical coming to it...how long it might take to
> > build a house out of just craiglist 'free" items. I often seen
> > construction/remodel leftovers. I just wish I had a free acre of land
> > to test my idea.

> I like to dream too, unassisted by foreign substances.
> I see all types of vehicle parts along the road. Some core items like
> an engine would be difficult to acquire unless you found an abandoned
> vehicle. I wonder if some supreme being could take a snapshot of the
> world or country's inventory of road kill parts and assemble something
> that resembled a vehicle. If he/she/it's a supreme being, they could
> make the parts fit and even run, but that would be violating the rule
> of my dream.

Didn't you ever hear that Johnny Cash song about an auto factory
worker who smuggled out parts for years, gradually building an
entire car?

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== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 12:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG wrote:
> In article
> <1185811024.737064.209200@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
> seerialmom@yahoo.com says...
>> I've been pondering this recently. I'm just wondering...let's say
>> you inherited an acre of land, free and clear. Presuming it already
>> has plumbing/sewer/electrical coming to it...how long it might take
>> to build a house out of just craiglist 'free" items. I often seen
>> construction/remodel leftovers. I just wish I had a free acre of
>> land to test my idea.
>
>
> I just saw somebody post to misc.rural about something similar.
>
> The claim was to have purchased a used port-a-loo.
> Specifically, the larger type that is designed to be wheelchair
> accessible. Cost was allegedly twenty-five bucks.
>
> Honestly, I have seen those, and could live in one if on a low
> enough budget.
>
> The story seemed a bit dodgy, since the idea is that the
> actual toilet is still useable. Without consideration that the
> contributions just drop into a tank which needs to be pumped out
> fairly often.

Not that often actually with just one person using it.

Could get a bit smelly to 'live' in tho.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 6:21 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <MPG.211896e778d4e05c989c5d@nntp.aioe.org>,
Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG <Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG> wrote:
>In article
><1185832733.555569.89430@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>MSfortune@mcpmail.com says...
>> On Jul 30, 11:57 am, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > I've been pondering this recently. I'm just wondering...let's say you
>> > inherited an acre of land, free and clear. Presuming it already has
>> > plumbing/sewer/electrical coming to it...how long it might take to
>> > build a house out of just craiglist 'free" items. I often seen
>> > construction/remodel leftovers. I just wish I had a free acre of land
>> > to test my idea.

That would primarily depend upon when you were able to get things. You'd
have to get things as you could, then store all of it until you have
everything you need before you start. Once you start, depends upon how
much experience you have and how much help you can call upon.

>> I like to dream too, unassisted by foreign substances.
>> I see all types of vehicle parts along the road. Some core items like
>> an engine would be difficult to acquire unless you found an abandoned
>> vehicle. I wonder if some supreme being could take a snapshot of the
>> world or country's inventory of road kill parts and assemble something
>> that resembled a vehicle. If he/she/it's a supreme being, they could
>> make the parts fit and even run, but that would be violating the rule
>> of my dream.

>Didn't you ever hear that Johnny Cash song about an auto factory
>worker who smuggled out parts for years, gradually building an
>entire car?

I've seen a Cadillac that a fan of his built in line with the song,
then gave to John. John said the title for the car was 1/2" thick.

The song is "One Piece At A Time".

Gary

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Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 7:26 pm
From: Rick

Seerialmom wrote:
>
> On Jul 30, 3:50 pm, freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 30, 11:57 am, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I've been pondering this recently. I'm just wondering...let's say
> > you> inherited an acre of land, free and clear. Presuming it already has
> > > plumbing/sewer/electrical coming to it...how long it might take to
> > > build a house out of just craiglist 'free" items. I often seen
> > > construction/remodel leftovers. I just wish I had a free acre of land
> >
> > > to test my idea.
> >
> > Years ago I used to see articles on this kind of project in the
> > alternative magazines. As I remember the typical story, it usually
> > took several years of serious scrounging to accumulate enough bits and
> > pieces, but now and then the homebuilder would start with out with a
> > place to sleep on the land, like a (travel-) trailer or a shed, stay
> > on the land and build his dwelling while foraging for the necessary
> > pieces.
> > otoh, we have an acquaintance who has been accumulating
> > miscellaneous building parts for 28 years. He has a nice big semi-
> > rural lot, maybe 2 acres, that used to be neatly landscaped but now
> > has 3 storage buildings on it filled with used plywood, windows,
> > balusters, staircases, doors, piles of plumbing pipe, piles of
> > plumbing fixtures, and anything else he could get free or cheap.
> > There are squirrels, mice, rats, and probably snakes in it because
> > nobody has moved the stuff for decades. He's going to build another
> > house "some day".
>
> Ugh...don't want to do that. But I do think having the trailer to
> live in while the house is being built would work. To be efficient
> I'd think only collecting the stuff you'll use in the next week would
> work. For example the starting with the foundation (forget about
> cement slab...odds are you wouldn't get enough "leftover" to pour it)
> and framing first. come to think of it Kathy Bates had a movie that
> was similar to this except she just refurbed what seemed to be a barn/
> shack into a house.

Yeah, but that's the rub: "Free" doesn't always come in the logical
order you need it. And you might need "it" in the next week, but may not
get "it" for six months. You would have to plan a lot further ahead than
that because the last thing you would want, for example, is the plywood
up on the roof - but no shingles in sight for another six weeks. Or get
the thing all framed and sided - but free doors or windows are not in
sight yet to prevent vandalism (by people or critters) or water damage
to what you have already accomplished.

Theoretically, it's an interesting idea. But to really accomplish it in
a reasonable time frame I think you'd have to go slightly beyond "free"
and get creative with low costs options as needed too.

Rick

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 1:37 pm
From: "Daniel T."

timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
> ChairMan wrote:
>
> > and if can't or won't support what you produce, keep it it your damn pants
> > or STFU
>
> It's odd that people take that attitude towards men but not women. Oh,
> you didn't want that baby after all? Go ahead and kill it. Or not,
> your choice. No need to ask the father or anything, it's none of his
> business -- except to pay for whatever you decide of course.

Agreed, the law is rather unfair in this regard.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 2:18 pm
From: Joe

A controversy over the Apple's iPhone battery replacement program has
come to light at the end of July as a consumer protection agency and a
non-profit organization for consumer and taxpayer rights have written
letters to Apple requesting a review of its iPhone repair policies.

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 3:41 pm
From: rick++

Any idiot knew this was case before buying an iPhone.
It was widely disclosed and in the accompanying documentation.
Some of the iPods are very difficult to change battery.

Why in frugal? IPhones arent frugal yet. Maybe next year.

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TOPIC: There is absolutely no downside to this program!!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3cae2734d2ff9d48?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 2:52 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 29, 8:38 pm, rutgerskevin <kevin_br...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Could you use some extra money? I know what you are thinking, this is
> just going to be about some kind of scam. I felt the same way until I
> actually tried Cash Crate. Don't take my word for the legitimacy of
> Cash Crate, I urge you to read the public forum on the site before you
> join. You will be able to read about common pitfalls, complaints, and
> countless success stories. Curious? Click below.
>
WOWIE
Let's increase the minimum wage to $75/Hr.

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TOPIC: Quit Smoking Right Now!!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/48e6c983b995f6c0?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 5:13 pm
From: So_Boya@yahoo.com

On Jul 29, 11:31 am, michellej <johnsonmb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For all of us smokers it is getting harder and harder to smoke in
> public places. I heard that one state wants to ban smoking in your OWN
> car. Now, I think that's pushing it. People can text message but they
> can't talk on a cell phone and now they can't smoke.
>
> Due to the rising costs of cigaretts and soon we won't be able to
> smoke outside I decided to quit. I put together a list of ideas that
> helped me. Take a look and leave a comment:
>
> http://rightnowquitsmoking.blogspot.com

http://tinyurl.com/yv2tw7

Poor Broken Spirited "michellej" <johnsonmblue@yahoo.com
wrote: " I 'm out of cigarette money" but she see's the links
right on the group to save her from the tax man.....
Only $2.00 a pack just like in Tennesee

For all of us smokers it is getting harder and harder to smoke in
public places. I heard that one state wants to ban smoking in your OWN
car. Now, I think that's pushing it. People can text message but they
can't talk on a cell phone and now they can't smoke.

Due to the rising costs of cigaretts and soon we won't be able to
smoke outside I decided to quit. I put together a list of ideas that
helped me. Take a look and leave a comment:

http://rightnowquitsmoking.bullspot.com

Quitters never win ask Vietnam
Join the weight Watchers and Quit...
Ross Perot..ran for president , and Quit...

For sea or seaver sham for save america
for change, for shame, and can a finsh...
can a finish!
Well maybe some people need to quit..!!

Be Sure to post in misc.consumers.frugal-living
Lots of Cheapskates over there quitting on life.

With all the old stale food the eat their breath
stinks just like the other end.

Make a little money on the quick and easy.
MichelleJ...Easy Street is closed for repairs.

Butt Linger we want some on our finger !

So Boya

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TOPIC: FIND YOUR PERFECT LOVER, IT FREE!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/52eb05d1a41f0110?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 5:31 pm
From: annis

FIND YOUR PERFECT LOVER, IT FREE!

www.shop4love.com

I found my soulmate here....

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TOPIC: Miniature Frozen Pizzas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f50f543cc0dc2653?hl=en
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Date: Tues, Jul 31 2007 6:16 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Chloe wrote:
> Dei Fratelli sells a pizza sauce in a can designed for storing in the fridge
> after you open it--and it stays good for several weeks. I think it makes a
> great tasting pizza-like snack spread on a toasted English muffin, topped
> with a few slices of pepperoni and a handful of grated mozzarella, and run
> under the broiler for a couple minutes.

As long as we're talking about pseudo-pizza snack recipes, I do just about
the same thing, except I use regular tomato paste (comes in small cans, not
too watery), and I use as big a flour tortilla as fits in my toaster oven
(and as thick as I can find) as the crust. I put the toaster oven on its
hottest setting and preheat it, then cook the thing until it's just shy of
burnt. Often the crust even puffs up and forms bubbles like a real pizza
crust does (which is one of my favorite parts of pizza).

It's nice to know about a pizza sauce that works well for storing unused
portions in the fridge. With my luck, they won't have it at my grocery
store, but I'll look for it in case they do.

- Logan

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