Wednesday, July 25, 2007

5 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Why I hate Washington Mutual (a rant) - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/02d22dacefd6cc05?hl=en
* Valley, Santa Clarita areas face problems with illness, poverty - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/123e617c98534333?hl=en
* Frugal deals - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bcac699fb70f8bf8?hl=en
* whither the ice house? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ece54484f7063e00?hl=en

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TOPIC: Why I hate Washington Mutual (a rant)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/02d22dacefd6cc05?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 24 2007 9:06 pm
From: Abe


>You seem to be over the top on this. You wanted to take out a very large
>sum of cash, that the bank either didn't have on hand when you wanted it
>or for some reason they felt very uncomfortable transferring that amount
>of cash to you. They lost a check order - whoopee. And you don't even
>know if it was actually the bank that lost the check order.

I disagree with cash on hand issue. I have worked in banking, even
small neighborhood branches, and 30 grand is nothing. Even the
smallest branches have many times that in the vault.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 24 2007 9:35 pm
From: Logan Shaw


Rick wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> 3. A month or so after that I went to the main local branch, figuring that
>> they wouldn't have to fax anything anywhere. After half an hour they said
>> they had looked everywhere but couldn't find my signature card. I asked
>> what else they could do. They said I could show them my driver's license.
>> AARRGGHH.
>
> And providing proof of who you were... Somehow that was a problem?

I think the problem was that they went through a whole bunch of complex
rigamarole for 30 minutes when they could have just asked for a driver's
license and had the problem solved in 30 seconds. Given that they did
this twice, and at two different branches, it almost sounds as if they
went to special training to learn how to be incompetent time-wasters.

- Logan


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TOPIC: Valley, Santa Clarita areas face problems with illness, poverty
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/123e617c98534333?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 24 2007 9:39 pm
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG


In article
<1185315999.021844.170390@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
millhaven@intergate.com says...
> http://www.dailynews.com/ci_6447594
>
> Valley, Santa Clarita areas face problems with illness, poverty
> BY SUSAN ABRAM, Staff Writer
> Article Last Updated: 07/23/2007 11:11:30 PM PDT
>
> Residents in the San Fernando and Santa Clarita valleys are poorer,
> mostly unhealthier and visiting emergency rooms for mental illness
> more than they were three years ago, according to a report to be
> released Wednesday.
>
> While obesity and diabetes rates have grown steadily over the past
> several years, mental health needs are surging, with more residents
> being diagnosed with various forms of psychosis at area hospitals.
>
> "The mental health diagnosis of (schizophrenia) is now among the top
> five (inpatient diagnoses) among adults and children," said Ronald
> Sorensen, director of the Providence Center for Community Health
> Improvement.


Have you ever BEEN to the San Fernando Valley? Like worked
there, or spent lots of time there? Driven around the grid of
unbelievably low-value, tedious, boring, Valley-Stuff? In the
nasty heat and smog of the summertime?

Then you would understand the mental health dangers.


> The study by the Valley Care Community Consortium, a group of health
> and mental health providers and schools, ties health to household
> incomes, education, race and ethnicity, and neighborhood crime rates.
>
> Among the findings, households that earn less than $25,000 a year have
> increased from 17 percent to 23 percent
> of the total in the San Fernando Valley and from 9 percent to 11
> percent of Santa Clarita Valley households.


So, a bunch of folks from Compton are "movin' on up"?


> Diabetes accounted for 21 percent of deaths in 2004, up from 19
> percent in 1999 in the San Fernando and Santa Clarita valleys.
>
> Obesity rates in the two areas also rose to 21 percent in 2004 from 19
> percent in 1999.


They are so miserable in the Valley, that they resort to
overeating to distract themselves from the hopelessness and
boredom.


> In one of the few positive improvements, asthma rates among children
> age 17 and younger fell in the past three years, from 8.7 percent of
> the total to 7.9 percent.


What, is the price of petrol reducing the smog, or something?


> In Glendale, nearly 12 percent of the residents have heart disease.
> The city also has the San Fernando Valley's highest rate of asthma and
> diabetes.


Personally, I don't consider Glendale (or Burbank) as part of the
Valley. It's a different vibe. Note that I didn't say a
completely good vibe.


> While the number of uninsured adults decreased from 23.6 percent to 19
> percent over three years, most adults still don't have a regular
> medical physician.
>
> The number of residents age 65 to 84 will increase by 35 percent in
> the Santa Clarita Valley in the next five years.


That's because there is nothing to do there, but sit around
getting old.


> Obesity also remains a top health crisis.
>
> "That is a real concern because that brings in a lot of issues, such
> as heart problems and diabetes," Novosel said.


Maybe they are trying to hasten their departure from the burning,
noxious Hell that is known as The San Fernando Valley?


> "This study is a picture of the San Fernando and Santa Clarita
> valleys," Sorensen said. "We'll discuss what we have, and how to delve
> deeper."


Don't bother. No matter how deeply you delve, EVERY part of the
Valley has exactly the same vibe.


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TOPIC: Frugal deals
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bcac699fb70f8bf8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 24 2007 11:30 pm
From: "Mark G."


dont forget www.fatwallet.com


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TOPIC: whither the ice house?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ece54484f7063e00?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 24 2007 11:46 pm
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu


Morris Dovey <mrdovey@iedu.com> wrote:
>Steve Spence wrote:
>
>| It wasn't an ice box. It was an ice house, in the basement. sort of
>| a walk-in cooler. Food was stored on shelves in the ice room.
>
>Ah! Thank you - I read "ice house" and thought "ice box". My mistake.
>
>Still, that strikes me as a project needing a considerable mass of ice
>and a substantial volume of insulation if it's to last from winter to
>winter (or harvest to harvest).
>
>Too much heavy lifting for me...

The ice might freeze in winter, then melt, then refreeze in place.

Nick

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