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* Which steak is better? - 16 messages, 12 authors
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* can buttermilk be frozen - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Frugal Cow - 1 messages, 1 author
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* The Anti-Tax guys won -- round 2 - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* OT Looking For A New Job - 1 messages, 1 author
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* cosmetics - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Moms! Honest business Earn great income from home !! No selling! - 1
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TOPIC: Which steak is better?
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 1:26 pm
From: ranck@vt.edu
In misc.consumers.frugal-living James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
I think so. Assuming it's a good sale. Frozen steak is
better than no steak if it's a good steak to begin with.
> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
The only place I've seen frozen steaks is the prepackaged
and vacuum packed stuff which is more expensive than my
local supermarket's fresh steaks, or the stuff being sold
out of the back of a truck in some gas station parking lot which
I would not touch with a ten foot pole.
Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.
== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 12:53 pm
From: Usenet2007@THE-DOMAIN-IN.SIG
In article <omp_omelet-0CD94D.14583123082007@news.giganews.com>,
omp_omelet@gmail.com says...
> In article <1187896922.852593.241750@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
> > Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
> I've never seen frozen steaks for sale.
This place does online ordering, and apparently has a few
physical locations:
http://www.omahasteaks.com/servlet/OnlineShopping?DSP=114
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== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:00 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
Yes, and best to cook it frozen, not thaw it before cooking it.
> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
Just because they last a lot longer frozen.
== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:31 pm
From: "Melissa"
"Omelet" <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:omp_omelet-0CD94D.14583123082007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <1187896922.852593.241750@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
> > Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>
> I've never seen frozen steaks for sale.
>
> Yes, I freeze steaks when I get them on sale.
>
> Double bagged or vacuum sealed.
> --
> Peace, Om
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> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a bitch" -- Jack
Nicholson
Just don't freeze them in the wrapping they are in from the store. Re-wrap
in something that allows you to get as much air out as possible. Then use
them within 6 months at the most.
Melissa
== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:38 pm
From: Dave Smith
aem wrote:
>
> The only steaks I've seen frozen are those so-called "minute steaks"
> which I haven't tried for so long I have no idea if there's any way to
> make them eatable. -aem
You've never seen frozen steaks for sale? There are frozen food retailers
like M&M around here that sell boxes of frozen steaks. The larger grocery
stores have been selling them for years. I tried them a few times and was
not impressed. My local butcher sells boxes of frozen steaks and those
aren't bad.
== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:56 pm
From: "l, not -l"
On 23-Aug-2007, James <jlinn@idirect.com> wrote:
> I've seen a couple of places that sell large packages of individually
> portioned steaks frozen steaks at good prices. When I looked closely
> they are from Australia. Not sure if thats good or bad or indifferent.
Though they are not frozen, I buy Trander Joe's Flank Steak and Shaved
Steak, which are from Australia, and have bound both to be excellent. And,
they are bargain priced; for example, Flank Steak is generally $9.99/lb at
most of our local grocers (St. Louis metro-area), but at Trader Joes, it is
$5.99-$6.49/lb.
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== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:28 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Melissa <nospam@neo.rr.com> wrote
> Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote
>> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
>>> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>> I've never seen frozen steaks for sale.
>> Yes, I freeze steaks when I get them on sale.
>> Double bagged or vacuum sealed.
> Just don't freeze them in the wrapping they are in from the store.
> Re-wrap in something that allows you to get as much air out as possible.
Its a lot easier to let the steak wet the plastic than to try getting as much air out as possible.
> Then use them within 6 months at the most.
They're fine for longer than that if you let the steak wet the plastic before freezing.
== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:32 pm
From: "Michael \"DawgThree\""
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> dropped this news:1187896922.852593.241750
@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com: in rec.food.cooking
> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>
Yep. Vacume seal them if you have a sealer gizmo. If not, wrap them well
and put them in a freezer bag. Squish out all the air and then label the
bag with the contents and date.
As far as which steak is better... I dunno. I have my faves but I like
them all. To me Porterhouse and T-Bones are the best for grilling. I like
sirloin for grilling but use it in other recipes. Then there is flank
steak. Oh hell, I like almost all of them.
Michael
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== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:40 pm
From: imascot
Omelet <omp_omelet@gmail.com> wrote in news:omp_omelet-0CD94D.14583123082007
@news.giganews.com:
> In article <1187896922.852593.241750@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
>> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>
> I've never seen frozen steaks for sale.
>
> Yes, I freeze steaks when I get them on sale.
>
> Double bagged or vacuum sealed.
When we went grocery shopping in St. Kitts, ALL the meat was frozen. The ground beef looked like
pellets, instead of long strings (we didn't buy any meat there).
J.
== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 4:14 pm
From: William Souden
Rod Speed wrote:
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
>
> Yes, and best to cook it frozen, not thaw it before cooking it.
http://www.omahasteaks.com/servlet/OnlineShopping?Dsp=32&FID=recipe_storethaw
Cooking from Frozen
Although it is preferable to cook your steaks, burgers and roasts from a
thawed state, it is possible to obtain satisfactory results without
thawing. Place meat farther from the heat when broiling or grilling.
Broil or grill 1 1/2 to 2 times the required time for unfrozen steaks,
burgers and chops. Roast 1 1/3 to 1 1/2 times that required for unfrozen
roasts.
>
>> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>
> Just because they last a lot longer frozen.
>
>
== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 4:22 pm
From: Sheldon
On Aug 23, 4:26?pm, ra...@vt.edu wrote:
> In misc.consumers.frugal-living James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
>
> I think so. Assuming it's a good sale. Frozen steak is
> better than no steak if it's a good steak to begin with.
>
> > Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>
> The only place I've seen frozen steaks is the prepackaged
> and vacuum packed stuff which is more expensive than my
> local supermarket's fresh steaks, or the stuff being sold
> out of the back of a truck in some gas station parking lot which
> I would not touch with a ten foot pole.
There are plenty of meat purveyers that ship all types of frozen meats
includings beef steaks... Lobels ships frozen USDA Prime. I think
it's extremely over priced for frozen beef. In fact I think USDA
Prime is very over priced, I'm very satisfied with fresh USDA Choice
from the stupidmarket, especially that I can pick it out myself... the
batch I picked this week is superb, I challenge anyone to distinguish
it from prime. There's a range within grades, with a lot of overlap,
top of the ladder Choice is much better than bottom rung Prime. The
trick to choosing is to educate yourself some on the anatomy of primal
sections... for instance, not all of the rib and loin section is
desirable.
Sheldon
== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 4:26 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
>> Yes, and best to cook it frozen, not thaw it before cooking it.
> http://www.omahasteaks.com/servlet/OnlineShopping?Dsp=32&FID=recipe_storethaw
> Cooking from Frozen
> Although it is preferable to cook your steaks, burgers and roasts from a thawed state, it is
> possible to obtain satisfactory results without thawing.
There's plenty that say the exact opposite, that its best to not thaw and to cook them frozen.
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=steak+frozen
> Place meat farther from the heat when broiling or grilling.
No need to do that.
> Broil or grill 1 1/2 to 2 times the required time for unfrozen steaks, burgers and chops.
Steaks should be cooked on the internal doneness, not time.
>>> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
>> Just because they last a lot longer frozen.
== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 4:43 pm
From: Seerialmom
On Aug 23, 12:22 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Is it a good idea to freeze fresh steak when they are on sale?
> Usually already frozen steaks are cheaper than fresh.
If you're talking about those frozen steaks that come in a package of
4-8; they aren't necessarily cheaper. Most come with some kind of
flavor/saline injection/preservative and are sold by the package; not
per pound. Do the math sometime, find out what the approximate weight
is (they usually don't have an actual on the package) and divide the
price by 16 and then multiply that # by the number of ounces to get
the per pound price. Additionally they may be "select" cut which
means a bit tougher.
Now if I can find rib eye steak on sale for $2.99-$3.99 a pound,
that's a decent price and I'd freeze it myself.
== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 5:09 pm
From: Ward Abbott
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:07 GMT, imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now>
wrote:
>When we went grocery shopping in St. Kitts, ALL the meat was frozen
Really....I would have though there would have been three dozen
slaughterhouses in St. Kitts.. <vbg>
Did it occur to you that just about EVERYTHING might have to be flown
into St. Kitts?
== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 5:17 pm
From: Sheldon
Seerialmom wrote:
>
> If you're talking about those frozen steaks that come in a package of
> 4-8; they aren't necessarily cheaper. Most come with some kind of
> flavor/saline injection/preservative
If they're injected with flavor/saline they can't be USDA graded.
Sheldon
== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 5:55 pm
From: Seerialmom
On Aug 23, 5:17 pm, Sheldon <PENMAR...@aol.com> wrote:
> Seerialmom wrote:
>
> > If you're talking about those frozen steaks that come in a package of
> > 4-8; they aren't necessarily cheaper. Most come with some kind of
> > flavor/saline injection/preservative
>
> If they're injected with flavor/saline they can't be USDA graded.
>
> Sheldon
Which means you'll have no idea what grade they are; but chances are
unless they're one of those Omaha steaks they could be any grade with
artificial tenderizers added.
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TOPIC: can buttermilk be frozen
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:32 pm
From: Ward Abbott
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:15:53 -0500, Wooly <nobody@nunya> wrote:
>Works just as well
>as buttermilk in most recipes.
But it is "soured" milk, not buttermilk.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:00 pm
From: difdrummer@webtv.net (Bob Young)
You folks should really be using a cooking newsgroup. This group is
just for very impotent folks.
Just giving the standard line of the anal people.
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TOPIC: Frugal Cow
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:38 pm
From: Parallax
Nothing groundbreaking humor-wise, but the comic strip Lucky Cow has
done a few strips this week comparing frugality and cheapness:
http://www.gocomics.com/luckycow/
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/luc/2007/luc070821.gif
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/luc/2007/luc070822.gif
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/luc/2007/luc070823.gif
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TOPIC: The Anti-Tax guys won -- round 2
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 2:38 pm
From: "Sgt.Sausage"
"Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com> wrote in message
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> Mull this over. What would happen if--legal or not--everyone suddenly quit
> paying income tax?
Uhhh .. I dunno. Maybe they'd stay within their constitutinally
bounded limits? Maybe they'd be more like the Federal Government
the founding fathers envisioned? Maybe it would be the type of
Government we'd all like better than the one we have now?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Sgt.Sausage <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote
> Chloe <justsayno@spam.com> wrote
>> Mull this over. What would happen if--legal or not--everyone suddenly quit paying income tax?
> Uhhh .. I dunno. Maybe they'd stay within their constitutinally bounded limits?
Pigs might fly too.
> Maybe they'd be more like the Federal Government the founding fathers envisioned?
Not a chance. And what they envisioned is WAY past its useby date anyway.
> Maybe it would be the type of Government we'd all like better than the one we have now?
Not a chance. We have the current type of govt because thats what the voters mostly want.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 23 2007 3:27 pm
From: Dennis
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:41:27 -0700, George Grapman
<sfgeorge@paccbell.net> wrote:
>Ward Abbott wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:42:16 GMT, "Joe"
>> <really-faked-but-works@yunx.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Only if you want to get paid for it...
>>
>> The ONLY motivation of being self employed is that YOU GET TO KEEP all
>> your income. I have been self employed for 38 years and never
>> considered doing it without pay.
>>
>>
> There are other incentives:
>
> No one will override your decisions.
> You can not be fired.
> Other employees can not hurt you,you have to do it to yourself.
> No fears of employee theft or pilferage.
But the downside is, Ward's boss is a real jerk.
Dennis (evil)
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TOPIC: cosmetics
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TOPIC: Moms! Honest business Earn great income from home !! No selling!
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