Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 15 topics

Saturday, October 20, 2007

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TOPIC: Strange behavior with the toilet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a2b719501c31543?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 9:55 am
From: una@att.net (Una)

<condor_222@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I flush the toilet. The tank and bowl refill fine.
[...]
>Then I come back next time. And the bowl is almost empty!

Sounds like you have a clogged vent stack somewhere in the house. When
something else in the house drains (eg, a washing machine), it acts as
a venturi pump. Normally it would pull air down the vent stack into the
drain system but if that is blocked instead it pulls the standing water
out of your toilet.

Una

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 12:06 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

condor_222@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an older toilet. A few years ago, I
> changed all the parts inside the tank. It
> has worked fine since then. Until now.
>
> Lately, it has an odd pattern. I flush the
> toilet. The tank and bowl refill fine.
> I've watched them.
>
> Then I come back next time. And the bowl is
> almost empty!
>
> And, it only seems to happen intermittently.
>
> It's really bizarre.
>
> Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this,

You stuffed up the replacement of the parts.

> and the solution?

Get someone else to do a better job, or work out what you stuffed up.

Looks like you managed to stuff up two different areas, the main stopper
clearly allows the water to leak away, and for some reason the valve that
is supposed to refill it when that happened isnt working properly either.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 4:49 pm
From: Mark Anderson

In article jwisnia@conversent.net says...
> I'd think more likely it's a clogged vent stack and draining something
> elsewhere in the house is "sucking" the water out of that toilet bowl.

I had this happen but the vent stack wasn't clogged, rather the vent
stack was being used as a roof drain. During heavy rains so much water
went down the vent stack through the poop pipe that it would suck the
water out of all toilets in the building. I fixed this by raising the
vent stack so that rain water would drain through it any more.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 5:57 pm
From: Zuke

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007, condor_222@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have an older toilet. A few years ago, I
> changed all the parts inside the tank. It
> has worked fine since then. Until now.
>
> Lately, it has an odd pattern. I flush the
> toilet. The tank and bowl refill fine.
> I've watched them.
>
> Then I come back next time. And the bowl is
> almost empty!
>
> And, it only seems to happen intermittently.
>
> It's really bizarre.

I'd question your dog.

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TOPIC: Free Sample of Parent's Choice Milk
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cfe8808fd9d5a7d1?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 10:26 am
From: James

On Oct 20, 12:26 pm, eHDMI <KHudso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Free Sample of Parent's Choice Milkhttp://www.freebiespl.us/?p=188
>
> Here's a nice one for us parents!

Breast milk is free and better for the baby.

James

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TOPIC: What happened to "pdaxs.services.plumbing" and "alt.building.
construction"?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9137ba169058f899?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 10:26 am
From: Robert Allison

Sammy bin Snoozin wrote:
> Hey, what happened to these newsgroups?
>
>
>
> If still around, how can a feller access them? Verizon yanked them off their servers a few weeks ago. A shame - great NGs.

> Sam

Well, Sam, perhaps you have another problem, because I am
using Verizon and I am reading this in
alt.building.construction. It may be something on your end.

Don't know about the other one.

--
Robert Allison
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:02 am
From: "ChairMan"

In news:JcqSi.4871$DX.759@trnddc06,
Sammy bin Snoozin <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com>spewed forth:
> Hey, what happened to these newsgroups?
>
>
>
> If still around, how can a feller access them? Verizon yanked them
> off their servers a few weeks ago. A shame - great NGs.
>
>
>
> Sam

try resetting your ng list

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 12:17 pm
From: Ann

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:41:13 +0000, Sammy bin Snoozin wrote:

> Hey, what happened to these newsgroups?
>
>
>
> If still around, how can a feller access them? Verizon yanked them off their servers a few weeks ago. A shame - great NGs.

groups.google.com

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 2:50 pm
From: clams casino

Ann wrote:

>groups.google.com
>
>
>
Preferred by all spammers.

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TOPIC: the most efficient form of heat.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/55941f5b8e2382e3?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 10:58 am
From: Dawn

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:42:13 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

>A Veteran wrote:
>

>There's a lot that isn't great about wood stoves. If you live in an area
>where wood is cheap/free and you don't mind stoking the box at 5 AM on a
>cold day, then wood stoves are fine.
>
> This winter, my plan is to use my wood stove a lot less.
>
>Jeff
>
>
My plan is to use mine more. I have a tendency towards the end of the
season to just turn on the electric heat.
Dawn, who enjoys wood heat much more.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:19 am
From: Jeff

Dawn wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:42:13 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>A Veteran wrote:
>>
>
>
>>There's a lot that isn't great about wood stoves. If you live in an area
>>where wood is cheap/free and you don't mind stoking the box at 5 AM on a
>>cold day, then wood stoves are fine.
>>
>> This winter, my plan is to use my wood stove a lot less.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>
>
> My plan is to use mine more. I have a tendency towards the end of the
> season to just turn on the electric heat.
> Dawn, who enjoys wood heat much more.

I've got enough wood stacked for the season, but I really don't want
to burn it all. It's a lot of work getting more.

I've been going solar and adding insulation the last few years so my
plan is to only use the wood when I have to. We'll see... This year I'm
going to close down about half the house and see how it cruises.

Jeff

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 6:17 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <georgek-DBB72E.06131019102007@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
A Veteran <georgek@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>thermodynamics.
>3 ways to transfer heat.
>You want Radiant heat.
>but you must be in the same space as the heat source and it should not
>blocked by a sheet metal cover. Direct to objects in the room.
>we chose a wood stove.

If you want efficient heat, move to an equatorial desert. You won't
have to pay a cent for heat, or consume any resources to get it.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnjimnjimn
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/954e05d7098248bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:41 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

BEIJING - China's Communist Party elite approved a list of candidates
for top positions Saturday, setting the stage for final negotiations
whose outcome will be a key indicator of President Hu Jintao's
political strength.
ADVERTISEMENT

With the list of an unspecified number of candidates in hand, the more
than 2,200 delegates to a weeklong party congress on Sunday will
select the Central Committee, a body that appoints top leaders and
sets broad policy goals.

Recent months have brought fractious backroom bargaining among senior
party members, although Hu has issued a customary call for unity at
the congress, held once every five years.

The result of the tussle will determine how strong or divided the
leadership is as it tries to ease tensions over a wide rich-poor gap
at home and manage China's rising clout abroad so as not to anger the
U.S. and other world powers.

The congress is all but certain to give Hu a second five-year term as
party chief. But for him, the event offers a chance to pack leading
party bodies with allies, including a potential successor, thereby
giving himself a freer hand to shape policies.

At Sunday's Central Committee selection, a test for Hu will be whether
Vice President Zeng Qinghong is on the list. A skilled party operator,
Zeng rose to power as an aide to Hu's predecessor, helping him shove
aside rivals. Though Zeng has also helped Hu do the same, his presence
is seen as a constraint on Hu's power and at age 68, Zeng is around
the party's soft retirement age for most leaders.

Aside from selecting the Central Committee, the congress will appoint
the members of the party's internal corruption watchdog agency and
adopt a revision to the party's charter endorsing a reference to Hu's
pet policy initiative - "the scientific outlook on development."

The program, a hallmark of Hu's first five years, has called for
increased social spending to help farmers and urban workers whose
living standards have not risen as fast as many other Chinese under
capitalist economic reforms.

The new Central Committee will meet Monday to approve the lineup of
the powerful Politburo and its Standing Committee, which runs China.

Though congress and Central Committee delegates have some influence
over leadership decisions, most of the lineup is decided among a core
group of the most powerful party members and elders.

State-run media reported that a 237-member steering committee led by
Hu approved the final candidate list for the Central Committee after
two days of consultations with congress delegates. China Central
Television showed Hu and other leaders raising their hands in
approval.

"The candidates' ideological and political qualities were relatively
higher," CCTV reported. "Their work experiences were relatively more
practical."

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnjimnjim
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fc390efbbcb47f2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:41 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

Recent months have brought fractious backroom bargaining among senior
party members, although Hu has issued a customary call for unity at
the congress, held once every five years.

The new Central Committee will meet Monday to approve the lineup of
the powerful Politburo and its Standing Committee, which runs China.

Though congress and Central Committee delegates have some influence
over leadership decisions, most of the lineup is decided among a core
group of the most powerful party members and elders.

"The candidates' ideological and political qualities were relatively
higher," CCTV reported. "Their work experiences were relatively more
practical."

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko mnjimnji
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c0d2f5cdeb756b5d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 11:42 am
From: Igor Dunjic-Duke

Milenko Kindl

Recent months have brought fractious backroom bargaining among senior
party members, although Hu has issued a customary call for unity at
the congress, held once every five years.

The new Central Committee will meet Monday to approve the lineup of
the powerful Politburo and its Standing Committee, which runs China.

Though congress and Central Committee delegates have some influence
over leadership decisions, most of the lineup is decided among a core
group of the most powerful party members and elders.

"The candidates' ideological and political qualities were relatively
higher," CCTV reported. "Their work experiences were relatively more
practical."

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TOPIC: HDTV (ATSC) converter
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 12:08 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> After the last thread (on LCD power consumption) and some looking
> around I wound up with a used Dell 2001FP (~$170). This has multiple
> inputs (including S Video) and Picture in Picture. Nice.

> Now I could get one of the PCI digital cards mentioned before, but
> I'd like to try a seperate tuner. A converter box, so to speak. After
> much web searching I've found nothing for less than the cost of my
> monitor.

> Any suggestion on devices with digital tuners and either S Video or
> composite out? With a year to the digital TV only cutoff date I would
> have thought the world would be full of these devices.

It is, the problem is that what you want output wise isnt that commonly required.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 5:31 pm
From: Dennis

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:36:42 -0400, Jeff <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote:

> After the last thread (on LCD power consumption) and some looking
>around I wound up with a used Dell 2001FP (~$170). This has multiple
>inputs (including S Video) and Picture in Picture. Nice.
>
> Now I could get one of the PCI digital cards mentioned before, but
>I'd like to try a seperate tuner. A converter box, so to speak. After
>much web searching I've found nothing for less than the cost of my monitor.
>
> Any suggestion on devices with digital tuners and either S Video or
>composite out? With a year to the digital TV only cutoff date I would
>have thought the world would be full of these devices.

I've never seen one. One problem is, you can't get HD through Svideo
or composite connectors. They only work with a 480i signal. So
you're not likely to find an HD tuner device with those outputs (one
exception is HD satellite TV boxes that down-convert HD and put it out
on Svideo, but it isn't realy HD anymore).

For HD, you commonly see devices with component (RGB), DVI or HDMI
outputs/inputs. Sometimes VGA.

With the Dell monitor, you can view SDTV (480i NTSC) via the composite
or Svideo connectors, or HDTV (720p or 1080i) via the DVI or VGA
connectors. As I've mentioned before, I use an ATSC HD tuner card in
a PC to watch HD on my Dell monitor, using the DVI connector from the
PC's video card. Works great.

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

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TOPIC: Ugly Dish Antennas Nauseate Me
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8fd795758fa3f8c5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 12:13 pm
From: "joe brown"

George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Don K wrote:
>> "George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> joe brown wrote:
>>
>>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked
>>>>> at how many homes - especially condos and apartments - had
>>>>> satellite dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings
>>>>> with absolutely no consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever.
>>>>> Here in SoCal no homeowners' association would ever allow that
>>>>> kind of fugly dish placement.
>>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot
>>>> do.
>>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>>
>>
>> Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.
>>
>> Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
>> wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with square wheels?
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
> I understand what you are saying but I think this thread isn't
> "anti-dish" but more "stupid installations of dishes" such as where
> the OP had observed the all too common scenario where there is a
> house with nice architecture and the dish is just slapped onto the
> easiest available surface in front of the house.

It should go on the side of the house thats got the best view of the satellite.

That should see the 'problem' only visible on one side of the street, the other
side of the street should mostly have the dishes on the back side of the house
if the street runs EW or close.

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TOPIC: Anybody using t-mobile's hotspot at home service?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/42ba5c276f6eb553?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 2:38 pm
From: vancemason@gmail.com

What URL would I "tracert" for t-mobile hospot@home?

I tried "tmobile.com" and got the following:

Tracing route to tmobile.com [65.161.188.152]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 41 ms 40 ms 39 ms hlrn-dsl-gw34-226.hlrn.qwest.net
[207.225.112.226]
3 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms hlrn-agw1.inet.qwest.net
[71.217.189.9]
4 * * 40 ms hlr-core-01.inet.qwest.net
[205.171.253.97]
5 61 ms 62 ms 62 ms dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net
[67.14.2.18]
6 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms dap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net
[205.171.225.53]
7 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms sl-st21-dal-15-1.sprintlink.net
[144.232.8.137]
8 64 ms 63 ms 63 ms sl-bb20-fw-6-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.80]
9 65 ms 64 ms 65 ms sl-crs1-fw-0-0-0-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.11.142]
10 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms sl-bb20-kc-13-0-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.57]
11 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms sl-bb25-chi-9-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.109]
12 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms sl-bb21-sea-1-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.20.156]
13 107 ms 107 ms 107 ms sl-bb20-tac-6-0.sprintlink.net
[144.232.8.61]
14 107 ms 107 ms 106 ms 144.232.17.54
15 109 ms 109 ms 109 ms sl-voice-100840-0.sprintlink.net
[160.81.243.38]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.

Looks to me like it stalled somewhere on "sprintlink.net".

-Vance (I don't know much about this stuff) in Denver

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 4:35 pm
From: Jeff

vancemason@gmail.com wrote:
> What URL would I "tracert" for t-mobile hospot@home?
>
> I tried "tmobile.com" and got the following:

You'll see a lot of time outs on tracert that are on working
connections. You may wish to just ping it.

Jeff
>
> Tracing route to tmobile.com [65.161.188.152]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>
> 1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
> 2 41 ms 40 ms 39 ms hlrn-dsl-gw34-226.hlrn.qwest.net
> [207.225.112.226]
> 3 40 ms 40 ms 39 ms hlrn-agw1.inet.qwest.net
> [71.217.189.9]
> 4 * * 40 ms hlr-core-01.inet.qwest.net
> [205.171.253.97]
> 5 61 ms 62 ms 62 ms dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net
> [67.14.2.18]
> 6 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms dap-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net
> [205.171.225.53]
> 7 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms sl-st21-dal-15-1.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.8.137]
> 8 64 ms 63 ms 63 ms sl-bb20-fw-6-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.20.80]
> 9 65 ms 64 ms 65 ms sl-crs1-fw-0-0-0-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.11.142]
> 10 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms sl-bb20-kc-13-0-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.20.57]
> 11 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms sl-bb25-chi-9-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.20.109]
> 12 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms sl-bb21-sea-1-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.20.156]
> 13 107 ms 107 ms 107 ms sl-bb20-tac-6-0.sprintlink.net
> [144.232.8.61]
> 14 107 ms 107 ms 106 ms 144.232.17.54
> 15 109 ms 109 ms 109 ms sl-voice-100840-0.sprintlink.net
> [160.81.243.38]
> 16 * * * Request timed out.
> 17 * * * Request timed out.
> 18 * * * Request timed out.
>
> Looks to me like it stalled somewhere on "sprintlink.net".
>
> -Vance (I don't know much about this stuff) in Denver
>

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TOPIC: make money using paypal as seen on the oprah and 20/20 with only $6
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I figured what have I got to lose except $6.00 small dollars, right?

Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about
the legal aspects of it.

It follows the same regulations as the "mailed chainletters, which
according to the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) is indeed legal!

Then I invested the measly $6.00.

Within days, I started getting money in my paypal account!

Even if you get 5 people and they get 5 people.

1. 1*5=5
2. 5*5=25
3. 5*25=125
4. 5*125=625
5. 5*625=3,125
6. 5*3125=$15,625 is yours .
I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in.

This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over
$24,641.00 and it's still coming in rapidly.

It's Certainly worth $6.00.

Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works?

REQUIREMENTS:

You must have a verified paypal account.

If you do not have an account you can go to www.paypal.com......
and get a free account.

I would suggest signing up for a business account because it does not
limit you to the amount of money you can receive.

Example: with a Personal account you are limited to receiving $500.00
a month and withdrawing $500.00 a month.

And trust me you WILL be receiving more than $500.00 a month!

Like i mentoined before In order to place the initial $6 into your
account, you will have to verify your bank account with paypal (which
may take a few days).

STEP 1:

Send, through paypal, $1.00 to each email on the below list. Make the
subject of the payment "Email List" and in the comments, write "PLEASE
PUT ME ON YOUR EMAIL LIST." What you are doing is creating a service
by this and best of all you are not giving your address to anyone ...
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!

The email list:

#1) bearcat@keyway.net
#2) christinaaj@gmail.com
#3) value4u2@hotmail.com
#4) hsweaney1224@hotmail.com
#5) kgunter@cwjamaica.com
#6] shawn_stillwell@yahoo.com

STEP 2:

Now take the ..1 email off the list that you see above, move the other
addresses up(6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc) and add YOUR email
address (the one used on the paypal account) as number 6 on the list.

STEP 3:

Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to
original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200
newsgroups, message board. (I think there are close to 32,000 groups)
All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money
you make - as well as everyone else on the list!

For example: you log on to any search engine like yahoo.com,
google.com, altavista.com, excite.com then you search with subject
like ?millionaire message board? or ?money making message board? or ?
employment message board? or ?money making discussions? or ?money
making forum? or ?business message board? Etc...

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TOPIC: Free Site - Learn to Make Money Online - Earn Thousands - Free eBooks,
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 4:04 pm
From: Nyc Synergy

check out

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Just Launched! Learn tons of different ways to make online, and then
get a chance to compete against other people. Keep all the cash you
make. Follow the steps and you are guaranteed to make money. No cost
for anything.

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TOPIC: Toy Industry Very Robust
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 4:26 pm
From: Al Bundy

PaPaPeng wrote:
> I did sya at that time that youo'll be buying as much if not more buy
> Christmas.
>
>
> =======================================================
> Buzz back in China's scandal-hit toy industry

>
> Christmas looks set to be made in China for several years to come.
Triple P paster at it again, rarely an original thought.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 20 2007 6:29 pm
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"

My county Public Health Service provides free flu shots for residents,
and free pneumococcal shots for residents over 65. You might want to
check with your local public health service to see if they provide this.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
He who knows only his own side of the case
knows little of that. -John Stuart Mill

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