Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 20 topics

Friday, October 19, 2007

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TOPIC: Ugly Dish Antennas Nauseate Me
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8fd795758fa3f8c5?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 11:18 am
From: George

joe brown wrote:

>>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at
>>>> how many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite
>>>> dishes just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with
>>>> absolutely no consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in
>>>> SoCal no homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of
>>>> fugly dish placement.
>>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot do.
>>>
>>>
>> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.
>
> Only fools let goons like that tell them what their surroundings must look like.
>
>
Did I strike a nerve or something? How many refrigerators do you have on
your porch?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 3:27 pm
From: "Don K"

"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qrbgh3111dlj645ispsg5dbgeur91h6i44@4ax.com...
> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
> placement.

Here in the USA, the FCC has pre-empted the authority of any
homeowners' association to impose restrictions on this type of antenna.

Don

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 3:34 pm
From: "Don K"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:IY2dnQDUcILNAoXanZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> joe brown wrote:

>>> I went to Milwaukee on business a few years back. I was shocked at how
>>> many homes - especially condos and apartments - had satellite dishes
>>> just stuck on the sides and roofs of buildings with absolutely no
>>> consideration given to aesthetics whatsoever. Here in SoCal no
>>> homeowners' association would ever allow that kind of fugly dish
>>> placement.
>>
>> Only fools let goons like that tell them what they can and cannot do.
> Or people that might care about how their surroundings look.

Sometimes functionality takes precedence over aesthetics.

Suppose you decided that round wheels look ugly on cars and square
wheels would look nicer. Would you drive around with square wheels?

Don

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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: For those who rarely fill their refrigerators.....
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 11:30 am
From: E Z Peaces

nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> The math might be a little different for fluorescent bulbs... since the bulbs
>> cost more,
>
> $2
>
>> use less energy,
>
> 34W
>
>> and might not be able to stand as many off/on cycles.
>
> Each start uses up about 6 minutes of something like a 20K hour lifetime.
>
> Nick
>
That's good to know. When manufacturers test fluorescents, I think they
run them four hours at a time. If I'd seen data for shorter on-times, I
could have calculated the wear and tear of starting a tube.

I hate it when F40 tubes get blinky, for fewer stores carry them these
days. In the kitchen I switch my twin fixture off several times an hour
when I'm popping in and out. I've wondered about the break-even point.

Suppose a pair of tubes cost $6. Each cycle would depreciate them 0.003
cents. If the fixture uses 100 watts at 10 cents a kWh, that's .00028
cents a second. I imagine any starting surge is much less than .00028
cents.

So the break-even point is 11 seconds, excluding switch wear. (This
house has switches that have been in daily use since 1925.) If I won't
need the lights for six minutes, switching them off also means fewer
shopping trips to find tubes.

The big reason to switch off the lights every time I leave the kitchen
is not to get into the habit of leaving all lights on whenever I'm home,
as Ann Landers seemed to recommend.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 12:03 pm
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TOPIC: Lithium Ion or NiMH power tool "systems": Which one?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 12:05 pm
From: E Z Peaces

me@privacy.net wrote:
>> The NiCad is widely used for power tools. It's safe, simple, and the
>> longest lasting. It thrives on fast charges and fast discharges. NiMH
>> his a higher power density but won't tolerate fast charges as well.
>> More can go wrong with charging and the self-discharge is faster.
>>
>> Li-Ion are expensive for a given capacity. The available current is
>> limited because high current can cause them to catch fire.
>
> So bottom line Ni-Cad still has the edge for current
> delivery?

There are some lithium rechargeables used for power tools. Two
advantages are that they are smaller than NiCads of the same capacity
and they will hold a charge a very long time. Two disadvantages are
that they don't last as long and they are expensive to replace.

Three things used to kill NiCads pretty fast: the old 14-hour chargers,
leaving them on a trickle charge, and letting them sit unused. These
three things let crystals grow, and the crystals drain the charge
internally. A modern fast charger charges your nicads and shuts off.

Another problem is memory effect. If for example, you normally recharge
before a cell gets to down to 50%, before long it will appear drained
when you get down to 50%. Instead of throwing it away, you can erase
the memory effect by giving it time to drain completely. One method
would be to leave it 24 hours in a one-cell flashlight.

Nine years ago, when NiMH was supposed to be so much better, I bought 8
AA cells and a fast charger. I also soldered a resistor to a battery
holder so that when a I think a cell went dead too soon, I can give it
time to drain completely before recharging. I've had those cells in
daily use and so far haven't seen any deterioration.

Treated that way, NiCads are supposed to last longer than NiMH. Two
drawbacks are that they won't hold as big a charge and they become
hazardous waste.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 1:01 pm
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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 1:16 pm
From: polly.ch@hotmail.com

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TOPIC: Frugal catalog case?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/eba96473cc85fcec?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 1:39 pm
From: Rick

Anthony Matonak wrote:
>
> me@privacy.net wrote:
> > I'm a full time student....carry big books to class
> >
> > I've tried the backpack route but its really hard on my
> > expensive books as they flop around in the odd shaped
> > backpack a lot..... lots of wear on books
>
> This is not exactly the question you were asking but you
> could get a tablet or laptop computer and scan your books.
> You don't even need to OCR them. Most scanners these days
> come with software to convert the images to a PDF. You
> might even be able to find a book scanner on campus that
> you can borrow.
>
> Carry one computer with all your books on it.
>
> Anthony

And you would be done scanning the first semester's books by the time
you finish college...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 2:51 pm
From: Beeblebrox

me@privacy.net wrote:
> I'm a full time student....carry big books to class
>
> I've tried the backpack route but its really hard on my
> expensive books as they flop around in the odd shaped
> backpack a lot..... lots of wear on books
>
> I've decide a catalog case or even big laptop case
> would work better since its rectangular shaped.... like
> the books. I even think a catalog case makes more
> sense..... since in essence thick books are like thick
> 'catalogs".
>
> any advice on decent brands catalog cases? Id prefer
> ballistic nylon over leather as its lighter in weight.

get a "messenger bag" style, they're rectangle.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 2:24 pm
From: "HangEveryRepubliKKKan"

>> I guess you continue to coat your fingers with it because you haven't
>> figured it out yet.

"Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
> How childish.

Yes. We adults bathe more often.

"Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
> Perhaps if you had a micropenis, getting smegma
> on your hands while peeing might be an issue.

I dont understand Your KKKonservative Fixation with other men's
reproductive organs.

Didn't you get enough with your Fixation on Bill Clinton's penis?

If not, then there are a wide variety of homosexual web sites you can
visit.

Or like RepubliKKKan AmeriKKKan Senators, you could just go to an airport
bathroom and solicit homosexual sex with random men.

As for myself.. I'll avoid the KKKonservative lifestyle, and stick with
bathing... Wiping my ass, Flushing the urnal, and women.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 2:31 pm
From: "Otto Bahn"

"HangEveryRepubliKKKan" <Justice@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote

> > Perhaps if you had a micropenis, getting smegma
> > on your hands while peeing might be an issue.
>
> I dont understand why I am the only one who gets smegma
> on his fingers while peeing.

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 3:39 pm
From: "HangEveryRepubliKKKan"

"Otto Bahn" <ei@eio.com> wrote
>> I dont understand why I am the only one who gets smegma
>> on his fingers while peeing.

And you never will understand Otto.

My recommendation to you is to bathe more.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 2:50 pm
From: "J. Davidson"

Thank you. Anywho looks like a very promising search engine.
Jackie
Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47180068$0$4978$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> J. Davidson wrote:
> > pepita@prodigy.net <scrapquilter@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1192662960.647339.323560@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >> On Oct 17, 5:49 pm, "J. Davidson" <fredjacquel...@bellsouth.net>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Are there any search engines which are free anymore?
>
> >> Google and Yahoo are free. Ask.com is free, etc. etc. etc. Which
> >> ones AREN'T free?
>
> > I was looking for a person, and using zabasearch.com. If I remember
right
> > there is a cost to it, to find out more than name.
>
> I went to zabasearch.com and it wants you to enter a name, so "find out
more
> than name" doesn't make that much sense to me. How do you find out the
name
> if that's what you're starting with?
>
> At any rate, I'm going to guess what you're trying to do is start with a
> person's name and find contact information (phone number or street
address)
> for that person. If that's what you're trying to do, you could try
> http://www.anywho.com/ . They also have an option to let you put in a
> phone number and find the name and street address of the person (or
> business).
>
> - Logan

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 3:08 pm
From: DennisTheBald

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TOPIC: LCD power consumption
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 19 2007 3:24 pm
From: "Don K"

"Jeff" <dont_bug_me@all.uk> wrote in message news:13hgaps9top9703@corp.supernews.com...
>
> For regular-size standard definition TVs ranging from 37-inch to 40-inch diagonal, the
> optimum TV viewing distance range within which most viewers will feel comfortable with,
> is a minimum of 7.5 feet and a maximum of 14 feet. For HDTV sets, these minimum and
> maximum distances would get down to approx. 5.5 feet to 10 feet respectively - thus
> allowing for a more immersive viewing experience.

FWIW, I have a 55 inch diagonal HD wide-screen, and for me the optimal distance
is when my knees are located about 6 feet from the screen. I started out with the
couch at 15 feet, then 10 feet, and ended up at 6 feet.

Yeah, I can watch the TV easily from the next room, but it's a much nicer
experience when I'm at the optimal distance.

Don

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