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Sunday, November 25, 2007

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TOPIC: Happy Thanksgiving MCFL
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:13 pm
From: imascot

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>
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TOPIC: Black Friday scams
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d88b4ca08eaef9f9?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:40 pm
From: "David E. Fox"

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:

> "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message

Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.

Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
people busy getting the refund.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:47 pm
From: "David E. Fox"

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:

> George Grapman wrote:
>
> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
> kidding?'.

Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and he
was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him "no";
he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
walkman sans extended warranty.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:20 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <j8Wdnbf9OclLdtTanZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@giganews.com>,
"David E. Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:
>
> > "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.
>
> Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
> level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
> you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
> people busy getting the refund.

What I would like to see is that all rebates are paid by
the store to the consumer at the point of sale. Then let
the store try to collect them. I bet we would see the
system change in a hurry when the consumer started getting
100% of the rebates rather the 5% or whatever it is today.

-john-

--
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== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:14 pm
From: Bill

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
>
> In article <j8Wdnbf9OclLdtTanZ2dnUVZ_vLinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "David E. Fox" <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:51:06 -0600, What Me Worry? wrote:
> >
> > > "The Trucker" <mikcob@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >
> > Rebates should be outlawed. They are a scam.
> >
> > Allow rebates, but place the burden of their collection by law at the
> > level of the retailer, not the consumer. The retailer then should offer
> > you the rebate at the time of purchase, then they can get their A/R
> > people busy getting the refund.
>
> What I would like to see is that all rebates are paid by
> the store to the consumer at the point of sale. Then let
> the store try to collect them. I bet we would see the
> system change in a hurry when the consumer started getting
> 100% of the rebates rather the 5% or whatever it is today.
>
> -john-

The problem with your idea is that people would then be able to
buy multiples of the same item for the after rebate price.
Rebates restrict people from buying more than one of the item at
the after-rebate price.

Bill

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:59 pm
From: The Trucker

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:00:57 +0000, aemeijers wrote:

> Bill wrote:
>> The Trucker wrote:
>>> The biggest scam of all is the "manufacturer's rebate" that takes several
>>> months and may not ever come. I have been waiting 6 months now for a
>>> rebate that I have decided will never show up. Its sorta like medical
>>> insurance: If you make it difficult enough to get reimbursed then the
>>> plaintiff will eventually give up on it.
>>
>> And what is the status of that rebate? Have you gone to the
>> rebate status website to see whether they even have it and if
>> it's waiting to be paid (you do have a scan/copy of the
>> submission, right?).

Thank you for making my point. The people who offer the rebates intend to
make things as difficult possible so that you will stop attempting to get
the rebate. They are, in that way, as bad or worse then the health
insurance people.

>> There are some companies which are really
>> awful about paying their rebates and their actions can be
>> characterized as fraudulent (a lot of small hardware companies
>> whose rebates get mailed to California comes to mind). If you
>> have problems getting your rebate, you can try complaining to
>> the retailer and see if they can do something.

The best idea is to tell the retailer that he can stick his rebate where
the sun don't shine. I wanted to buy a computer system with athlon 2.4
Ghz, 1 gig mem, 300gb disk, with all the camera crap and vista and lots of
other stuff that was listed @ $469 and was $300 after rebate. They almost
suckered me into buying it. With the rebate it was one hellova deal. But
I have decided that I will not do any more rebates unless they are from
the retailer (in this case Office Depot). That way I have a shot at the
local level to do something nasty if I get really pissed.

>> Frys has someone
>> who will intercede and I know that they have paid customers on
>> their own when the manufacturer will not pay the rebate. But you
>> at least need to know what the status is and make some effort to
>> get paid. Should you have to? No. But it's much better than just
>> writing it off and then saying "rebates are awful, I mailed one
>> in a year ago and never got it.".
>>
>> Bill

It is a scam and there is no way that I am going to legitimize it.

> What is your time worth? I may chase a $100 rebate, but I won't spend a
> lot of time and money chasing a $10 one, and they know it and take
> advantage of it.
>
> I'm glad they seem to be dying out. I understand the business model, but
> I think it is a scummy way to treat customers and retailers, and hurts
> repeat business. Want to move old stock or build market awareness? Have
> a sale.
>
> aem sends...
--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:03 pm
From: The Trucker

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:41:21 +0000, Bryan Olson wrote:

> Kent Wills wrote:
>> Never buy based on a rebate.
>> I buy what I'm going to buy. If the item has a rebate, I'll
>> send it in. If I get it, great. If not, oh well. I needed/wanted the
>> item anyway.
>
> And never buy a product with a rebate and fail to collect,
> all the way to cashing the check. Customer failure to collect
> is how the scammers get paid. That's why they do it.

I have much more valuable endeavors for my time than policing the rebate
people. So my contribution was to get it talked about (done). And to not
buy stuff that has a manufacturers rebate as part of the price. I will
simply do without, thank you.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:36 pm
From: George

David E. Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:
>
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
>> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
>> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
>> kidding?'.
>
> Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
> Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and he
> was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him "no";
> he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
> practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
> walkman sans extended warranty.
>
>
Part of the reason is that big box stores pay their "associates" next to
nothing. So the $1 or $2 buck commission he would get for selling the
warranty is a significant part of his income.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:41 pm
From: William Spuden

George wrote:
> David E. Fox wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:23:10 +0000, aemeijers wrote:
>>
>>> George Grapman wrote:
>>>
>>> As annoying as those pitches are, sometimes they are so absurd as to be
>>> funny. I once had a clerk offer me a three-year warranty on a $20 box
>>> fan. I looked the clerk right in the eye and said 'you have got to be
>>> kidding?'.
>>
>> Reminds me of the time some years ago when I purchased a $50 (or so)
>> Walkman from Circuit City. The sales person was a fairly young guy and
>> he was very pushy to get me the add-on extended warranty. I told him
>> "no"; he kept on trying to pitch it to me. I told him "no", again, he
>> practically started crying, but he eventually got me what I wanted, a
>> walkman sans extended warranty.
>>
>>
> Part of the reason is that big box stores pay their "associates" next to
> nothing. So the $1 or $2 buck commission he would get for selling the
> warranty is a significant part of his income.

Radio Shack has adopted a similar sales model. They pay the workers a
meager salary plus a commission so the only things they want to spend
time on are warranties and things like satellite dishes , cell phones
and large screen tvs. The hit the daily double even you go for the
warranty on the tv.

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:20 pm
From: Bill

Joe wrote:
>
> http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/frugal-philly.html#bf

I finally read the article and found this piece interesting:

> Black Friday Scam #3: no stock to begin with
>
> A third scam is stores' having no stock on the sale item to begin with. While
> at a Best Buy you can be sure there are, say, 5 laptops per store, because
> they are fairly well disciplined, if you go to another store you may not find
> anything. If you look at their ad you may see no guarantee of stock. If you get
> burned in this bait-and-switch scam, obviously you should boycott the store.

Circuit City more or less did this with their $229 PC bundle.
While not advertised as a 6 hour special, in reality it was
because they had very little stock and if you weren't there when
the store opened you didn't get it. Furthermore, as best I could
tell (and I checked a few times, starting at 4:30am on Friday
and several times on Thursday), it was never available for sale
on their website (it was listed there, but it said "purchase in
store"). Miraculously, when the sale went away after the website
was refreshed with new prices this morning, it was available for
ordering and home delivery. I'll be emailing CC about this prior
to my filing a complaint with the FTC. I doubt that CC will care
and don't have much hope for the FTC either, unless lots of
other people also complain. Best Buy had a similarly discounted
PC, but at least their ad said it was a doorbuster and I knew I
would not get that unless I showed up really early (which I did
not want to do).

Bill

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TOPIC: LifeLock anit identity theft system - any experience?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:44 pm
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:19 pm
From: "ChairMan"

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gerber.tony@gmail.com <gerber.tony@gmail.com>spewed forth:
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TOPIC: Coinstar Warning
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0a78df299577cc2f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 1:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

sarge137 <rbooth9858@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 7:49 am, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
>> Not only does Coinstar charge an exorbitant fee for counting your
>> coins (almost 10%), but they apparently frequently undercount the
>> amount.
>>
>> I took advantage of their recent offer for free coin counting if you
>> took an electronic gift certificate for one of their partner
>> merchants instead of cash. In addition, if you counted at least $30
>> worth, you got an extra $10 amazon.com gift certificate.
>>
>> So I got three rolls of quarters at the bank ($30) and dumped them
>> in. The total Coinstar registered was $29.61. I threw in two more
>> quarters to make $30.11. When I got home, I googled and discovered
>> that this was not an unusual occurrence.
>>
>> They did send the additional $10 certificate, so I got $40.11 for my
>> $40.50, and spending money at amazon is not a problem for me, but I
>> would never use them without being offered a big premium like this.
>> Even if they don't take a commission if you take a certificate, they
>> may still short-change you.
>>
>> --
>> Evelyn C. Leeper
>> I believe I found the missing link between animal
>> and civilized man. It is us. -Konrad Lorenz
>
> Hmmmmm.....very interesting!
>
> I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated?

At design time they obviously are.

> A dollar here, a dollar there...

But most clearly feel that that aint worth their time for manual coin counting.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 3:20 pm
From: Bill

sarge137 wrote:
>
> I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated? A
> dollar here, a dollar there...

And what's going to happen if their count is off? Will they
believe you over what their machine says (and how are they going
to get just your coins to check it)? I had a similar problem to
the other poster's. I bought 3 rolls of quarters from my bank
and the CS machine rang them up one quarter short. I never
thought to weigh them before dumping them in the machine to
check that they were the same, and I would expect my bank to
verify that they were correct before giving them to me. I
certainly trust them more than the CS machine. I wonder if they
ever make an error in the customer's favor?

Bill

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:06 pm
From: sarge137

On Nov 25, 4:20 pm, Bill <billru...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> sarge137 wrote:
>
> > I don't use Coinstar, but every now and again I take a quart jar of
> > mixed coins to my credit union. They don't charge me, but they run
> > them through their coin counter, and credit my account. The deposit
> > is usually between $60 and $80. It never occurred to me that the
> > count might not be accurate. I think next time I'll waste an hour or
> > so of my time and count them before I go. I don't think they'd
> > deliberately cheat me, but are these machines ever calibrated? A
> > dollar here, a dollar there...
>
> And what's going to happen if their count is off? Will they
> believe you over what their machine says (and how are they going
> to get just your coins to check it)? I had a similar problem to
> the other poster's. I bought 3 rolls of quarters from my bank
> and the CS machine rang them up one quarter short. I never
> thought to weigh them before dumping them in the machine to
> check that they were the same, and I would expect my bank to
> verify that they were correct before giving them to me. I
> certainly trust them more than the CS machine. I wonder if they
> ever make an error in the customer's favor?
>
> Bill

Well, I doubt there'll be a big enough difference for me to worry
about it, but 'm going to do it anyway. Since I know my credit union
wouldn't rip me off, I'm want to see how my results compare with the
OPs.

Since my interest is now piqued, I'm going to call my account rep
tomorrow and ask how she'd handle such a dispute. I'll check back.

Regards,
Sarge

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TOPIC: The world according to Rod Speed
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:40 pm
From: Just A User

Allan Parkington wrote:
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
>> are your friend.
>
> Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>
>
Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
mentions his name.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 2:54 pm
From: Siskuwihane

On Nov 25, 5:40 pm, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
> Allan Parkington wrote:
> > "Just A User" <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> >news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
> >> are your friend.
>
> > Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>
> Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
> mentions his name.

Or until he uses another addy to circumvent them, which he does often.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 4:18 pm
From: William Souden

Siskuwihane wrote:
> On Nov 25, 5:40 pm, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> Allan Parkington wrote:
>>> "Just A User" <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>>> news:xLidnZstDeJwgtnanZ2dnUVZ_vbinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> I had almost forgotten about R.S. if it weren't for this thread. Filters
>>>> are your friend.
>>> Unfortunately filters don't hold back excrement like Rod too well...
>> Well they work well until someone responds to one of his posts or
>> mentions his name.
>
> Or until he uses another addy to circumvent them, which he does often.

My favorite was when he posted as sam jones with a .ru domain.

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TOPIC: www.200836.com---Beijing 2008 Olympic Mascots
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fc922be838136d51?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:10 pm
From: feiallen

1 our website was aimed at that all the people in the world can
buy Olympic souvenirs anywhere anytime
2 our website was exclusively authorized by BOCOG to sell licensed
products of the Beijing Olympics
3 The website was exclusively authorized by BOCOG to sell licensed
products of the Beijing Olympics. so all the products are best
quality !
4 We have exported our goods to many countries such as Russia, USA,
England, Germany, France, Japan, Spain, Italy, Taiwan, Africa, just
name a few here. We can deliver goods to any counties all over the
world.
5 we give you discount based on your quantity,the more you
buy ,the lower price is!
6 welcome to become our product-agent,we will give low discount if
your quantity is enough!
if you want to know any information about 2008 beijing Olympic
games ,please contact me or visit :
my website--www.200836.com
MSN:feiallen@hotmail.com
e-mail:sales@200836.com
yahooID:feiallen@yahoo.com.cn
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ICQ:391836515
or leave your e-mail or msn-number or other contact methods
we can e-mail our souvenirs-list to you

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TOPIC: Looking For Free Air Pump At Gas Station (North Dallas/Richardson/Plano
- Texas)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5211fb5e886f9a96?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 5:44 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <13kj9533952e2f3@corp.supernews.com>, Tiziano wrote:
>Thanks all for your replies.
>
>Is there such thing as an inexpensive electric air pump with pressure
>gauge installed? Yesterday I went to Target and Wal-Mart, but I was not
>able to find it.
>
>Don K. what brand is the air compressor that you purchased at Target?

The one I got at Target is in a mostly red box with $10.00 in the upper
right corner. (If I said $9.99 before, looks like I was wrong.) I see no
brand on the package, but the warranty says KENLAN. The largest writing
on the package says, "300psi tire inflator & ball pump".

This thing has a gauge that so far appears somewhat accurate (reads high
by 2-3 PSI according to my best tire gauge). However, the scale is in 5
PSI incriments. I would use a separate gauge to be sure.

I am wary that this thing is worth what I paid for it and the separate
ball pump. I would not be surprised if it expires shortly after the 90
day warranty does, though it works for now.

I have 84 days to get a good bike pump, assuming I don't get to test the
warranty.

- Don Klipstein (not the other guy Don K), don@misty.com

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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1d33997c763a66e0?hl=en
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 7:23 pm
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TOPIC: Dump the Dollar, China State TV Tells Viewers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 7:39 pm
From: "BillGross@gmail.ca"

> RonPaul2008.com
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> TeaParty07.com

None of these sites exist save the top one. Forget about paul, he
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by 600%. Israel enjoys a free trade agreement which was signed
before the canadian version and
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Paul is a self hating Jew in the mould of Hitler.

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TOPIC: $5000 -10,000 Weekly Potential!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 7:40 pm
From: frank

Entrepenuers Wanted. Turnkey Business. No Selling
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TOPIC: shortchanged
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/60387e529ef5e1b7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Nov 25 2007 8:11 pm
From: bob@coolgroups.com

I have been counting my change recently when paying with cash, and I

noticed it is often less than what it should be. What are the best

strategies for not getting shortchanged? (i.e. exact change...
always

credit card)

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