Monday, November 12, 2007

25 new messages in 16 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* SPORT SHOES Nike Jordans Air Force One SHOX Bape Shoes Airmax Puma Dunk - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/22021b31938acba4?hl=en
* Sunny Leone free video clips. Nude movies gallery - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8b9242592ae4657?hl=en
* Slip lining a drain pipe - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ec1efb18100f6a59?hl=en
* Many Uses of Wood Ash. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fcd9523b0e2e87f8?hl=en
* Comcast - drop cable TV but keep Internet? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ef5e146031ebf44c?hl=en
* china wholesale nike jordan puma prada adidas shoes,handbag,sweaters,coat,
jeans(www.globwholesale.com) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c05650b607f4b616?hl=en
* check fraud - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8f8f2ab630e63181?hl=en
* No you can't . . . - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88f83f1610e1798a?hl=en
* Discount item scalping - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f44a8366af395738?hl=en
* Free Pressure-Sensitive Pen - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cec2190b8cf07028?hl=en
* Pricks with awesome dicks! - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33006f9fa8ddaf16?hl=en
* Du Q ! du Q ! du Q du Q du Q !!! (was:Re: Take your pants down! - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dd30089bb7e376de?hl=en
* MAKE MONEY USING PAYPAL AS SEEN ON OPRAH AND 20/20 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/06de038d57cd1107?hl=en
* Replica Chole wallet - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/26bdd48f339ef64e?hl=en
* -- Da pobijem Ješe, i gotova stvar! -- - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0709162043975688?hl=en
* Replica Louis Vuitton bags wholesaler - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a42fec76c688a981?hl=en

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TOPIC: SPORT SHOES Nike Jordans Air Force One SHOX Bape Shoes Airmax Puma Dunk
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/22021b31938acba4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 9:34 am
From: fashion-sky@hotmail.com


Dear my friend
It is our pleasure to meet you here.
we are wholesaler sport shoes,clothing,electrons in Fujian of China.
our website: http://www.fashion-sky.com
We are professional and honest wholesaler of all kinds of brand
sneaks and apparel.the products
our company supply are as follows:
1).Nike Jordans
Jordan 1 jordan 1.5 jordan 2 jordan 3 jordan 3.5 jordan 4 jordan 5
jordan 5.5 jordan 6 jordan 6.5 jordan 7 jordan 8 jordan 9 jordan 9.5
jordan 10 jordan 11 jordan 12 jordan 13 jordan 13.5 jordan 14 jordan
15 jordan 16 jordan 17 jordan 18 jordan 18.5 jordan 19 jordan 20
jordan 21 jordan 21.5 jordan 22 jordan King jordan Dub Zero Jordan 23
Jordan 7.5
2).Air Force One Air Force one (low) Air Force one (High) Air Force
one (Mid) Air Force one (clear) Air Force One 25 year
3).SHOX Shox R3 Shox R4 Shox R5 Shox TL1 Shox TL2 Shox TL3 Shox NZ
Shox OZ Shox Turbo Show GO Shox CL Shox Coqnescenti Shox Energia Shox
Explodine Shox Monster Shox Rhythmic Shox Warrior
4).Bape Shoes Bape Bape (transparent)
5).Air max AirMax 90 AirMax 95 AirMax 97 AirMax 2003 AirMax 2004
AirMax 2005 Air Max 2006 AirMax 180 AirMax LTD AirMax TN AirMax solas
AirMax 87 AirMax Rift
6).Puma Puma Rpt2 Puma SK6 Puma Jayfi Puma Cir Puma Speed Puma Repli
Puma Future Cat Puma Mostro Puma Lifestyle
7).Dunk SB Dunk High Dunk Low
8).Timberland Timberland High Timberland Low
9).Adidas Adidas 35 Adicolor Country city sense Adidas NBA
11).Prada & Gucci Prada Gucci
12).Footballer Shoes Footballer
13).Locaste
14).converse & Reebok converse Reebok
15).D&G shoes
16).Dsquared2 shoes
17).James shoes
18).Nike King
9).Children shoes Jordan Shox
20).Women shoes Women Jordans Women Shox R3 Women Shox R4 Women AirMax
95&97 Women AirMax 03&06 Women Dunk Women Shox NZ Women AF1
21).sandal & baboosh Nike Puma Gucci Prada
CLOTHES 1).Bape 2).ED Hardy 3).BBC 4).CLH 5).LRG 6).Artful Dodger
Hoodies 7).GINO GREEN GLOBAL 8).10 Deep 9).A&F Coat 11).Jersey NBA
Jersey Football Jersey 12).Juicy Bikini 13).Adidas Coat 14).F1 Coat
15).D&G Coat 16).Superman Coat 17).NBA Coat
JEAN 1).E&D Jeans 2).BBC Jeans 3).BAPE Jeans 4).D&G Jeans 5).EVSIU
Jeans 6).Red monkey 7).COOGI Jeans
T-shirt 1).POLO 2007 polo(women) 2007 POLO IIII(Men) POLO (stripe)
polo (small )
2).Lacoste Lacoste (LONG) Lacoste (SHORT) 3).Name Brand shirt D&G
Shirt Giorgio Armani TN Shirt 4).BBC T-shirt 5).LRG & gina green
glalal 6).Triumvir 7).ED handy 8).Evsiu 9).R.M.B 10).CLOT
Burse & Handbag 1).LV Bag 2).Gucci Bag 3).Dior Bag 4).Chanel Bag
5).Fendi Bag 6).Coach Bag 7).Burberrys Bag 8).Prada Bag 9).Man Leisure
Bag 11).D&G bag 12).nike bag 13).Wallet 14).Suitcase
Electronics 1).Vertu Mobile 2).New iphone Mobile 3).Nokia Mobile
4).moto Mobile 5).PSP Game & memory card 6).Sony Mobile 7).Samsung
Mobile 8).Ipod nano 9).Sony PS3 10).Laptops IBM laptops DELL laptops
Sony laptops ASUS laptops
CAP 1).ED Hardy Cap 2).New Bape & NY Cap 3).RMC Cap 4).New era NBA
5).F1 6).Chanel 7).D&G 8).gucci 9).LV 10).Prada 11).PUMA 12).wool
WATCH 1).Rolex 2).Omega 3).Cartier 4).Chanel 5).Piaget 6).Breitling
7).Bvlgari 8).Corum
Sunglasses 1).Gucci Sunglasses 2).D&G Sunglasses 3).Dior Sunglasses
4).LV Sunglasses 5).Chanel Sunglasses 6).Prada Sunglasses 7).Versace
Sunglasses 8).Giorgio Armani
Strap 1).Bape Strap 2).D&G Strap 3).Gucci Strap 4).LV Strap 5).Scarf
Other 1).Lighter

size chart
Men Size:
US: 7 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 13 14 15
UK: 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 12 13 14
EUR: 40 41 42 42.5 43 44 44.5 45 45.5 46 47.5 48 49
Women Size:
US: 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5
UK: 2.5 3 3.5 4 4.5 5 5.5 6
EUR: 35.5 36 36.5 37.5 38 38.5 39 40

Kid's
US: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5 13 13.5
UK: 13 1 2 3 4 5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 9 9.5 10 10.5 11 11.5 12 12.5
EUR:17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 24.5 25 25.5 26 26.5 27 27.5 28 29 30 30.5
31

Clothing Size:
S M L XL XXL XXXL XXXXL XXXXXL

7.because the space of the website is limited,we can also supply many
other products which be not showed out in our site. if you have the
photos of the products you need , we are pleasure to supply for your
orders.
And our company can supply for our customers ,as follow:
1. top quality.all our products have top quality.
2. most rational price. we offer the most competitive price to you to
open your market. So today most of our products have sold well in the
America, Europe, Middle East, Southeast Asia etc..
3. safe and fast shipment. As different country you are in, we will
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your address 100%.and we will send the products to you within 24h
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5.our credit. If the products can be not delivered to your address as
our reason, we will refund the money you paid.
Hope sincerely to have glad and long term business relationship with
you.
If you are interested in our products and have any problem, welcome
to
contact us.
Please trust us , we will be your best choice !!!
Website : http://www.fashion-sky.com
MSN and E-mail: fashion-sky@hotmail.com
Yahoo ID:mallinchina@yahoo.com.cn
Michael
Fashion Footwear Industrial Co.,Ltd.(Fujian,CHINA)


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TOPIC: Sunny Leone free video clips. Nude movies gallery
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 9:47 am
From: govard4@gmail.com


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TOPIC: Slip lining a drain pipe
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ec1efb18100f6a59?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 9:49 am
From: "Sammy bin Snoozin"


Thanks, Dan. Since last posting I found one guy who would do it for
$2-3K. 20-ft drain 4-inch. Seems like it's better to just dig it up
and replace the line.


"DanG" <dgriff23@7cox.net> wrote in message
news:VhEZi.5682$1R.5071@newsfe07.phx...
> This is a very expensive process. The contractor I know involved
> in this stuff does huge, out-of-town and out-of-state work. There
> is no way they would even have a conversation with a residential,
> single family size job.
>
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> dgriff237@7cox.net
>
>
>
> "Sammy bin Snoozin" <SammyBinSnoozin@REyahooMOVE.com> wrote in
> message news:zcpZi.350$Y32.174@trnddc04...
> > Reposting, hoping someone in the area of Catawba County, NC, NW
> > of
> > Charlotte, knows a company who can do this kind of work in a
> > home
> > 4-inch drain. I have called the manufacturers of the equipment
> > they
> > use and gotten several referrals, but no one willing to drive to
> > that
> > location. I found one company in Richmond but too far for them.
> > Another in Tennessee, same story.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a brand of slip liner for residential? I
> > would
> > like to contact them and find out if they can recommend a
> > plumber who
> > uses their stuff in my area. I checked with Amerik Supplies,
> > but they
> > did not have anyone in my area who used their equipment.
> >
> > Is there a good plumbing related newsgroup or other place to
> > post
> > questions like this? This one disappeared from verizon
> > recently...
> > pdaxs.services.plumbing
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
>
>



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TOPIC: Many Uses of Wood Ash.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fcd9523b0e2e87f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 10:21 am
From: A Veteran


Of course it sweetens the soil. High in Potash too.
Buffers acid soil. Loosens clay soil, and
keep some in the car trunk for winter conditions. and '
Wood Ash is a fire extinguisher.
any other ideas?

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 11:01 am
From: Anthony Matonak


A Veteran wrote:
> any other ideas?

Make soap?

Anthony


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TOPIC: Comcast - drop cable TV but keep Internet?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 10:20 am
From: Jim Prescott


In article <kICdncmkVYI1zajanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
>determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
>(analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
>won't just give straight answers.

Cable companies have pretty much the worst websites around. You need
to call to find out anything.

You want to ask about both bare internet, and internet plus the
cheapest cable TV service. The FCC requires them to have a basic tier
of cable service that runs about $12/mo but you usually have to
explicitly ask about it.
--
Jim Prescott - Computing and Networking Group jgp@seas.rochester.edu
School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, University of Rochester, NY

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 11:35 am
From: George Grapman


Jim Prescott wrote:
> In article <kICdncmkVYI1zajanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>> I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
>> determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
>> (analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
>> won't just give straight answers.
>
> Cable companies have pretty much the worst websites around. You need
> to call to find out anything.
>
> You want to ask about both bare internet, and internet plus the
> cheapest cable TV service. The FCC requires them to have a basic tier
> of cable service that runs about $12/mo but you usually have to
> explicitly ask about it.

The phone companies are not much better. When I switched to DSL I got
a real runaround about getting stand alone DSL. I finally decided that
it was worth the extra few dollars a month to have an additional phone
line since I have a home office. Whenever that phone rings it is either
a telemarketer or a wrong number as it is unlisted and I never give it
to anyone.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 12:21 pm
From: George Grapman


George Grapman wrote:
> Jim Prescott wrote:
>> In article <kICdncmkVYI1zajanZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> timeOday <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>>> I spent about 20 minutes searching the web this evening and could NOT
>>> determine how much it would end up costing me per month if I drop my
>>> (analog) cable TV and just get Internet. It's very frustrating they
>>> won't just give straight answers.
>>
>> Cable companies have pretty much the worst websites around. You need
>> to call to find out anything.
>>
>> You want to ask about both bare internet, and internet plus the
>> cheapest cable TV service. The FCC requires them to have a basic tier
>> of cable service that runs about $12/mo but you usually have to
>> explicitly ask about it.
>
> The phone companies are not much better. When I switched to DSL I got a
> real runaround about getting stand alone DSL. I finally decided that it
> was worth the extra few dollars a month to have an additional phone line
> since I have a home office. Whenever that phone rings it is either a
> telemarketer or a wrong number as it is unlisted and I never give it to
> anyone.

I have only done it a few times but the extra phone allows a 4 way
conversation. A three way on the main phone, a single call on the modem
phone and put both next to each other on speaker phones.
By the way, the modem phone has no added features, no long distance,
caller ID, three way, etc.


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TOPIC: china wholesale nike jordan puma prada adidas shoes,handbag,sweaters,
coat,jeans(www.globwholesale.com)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 10:31 am
From: globwholesale@126.com


Dear my friend
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==============================================================================
TOPIC: check fraud
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8f8f2ab630e63181?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 10:42 am
From: Antagonostic


In article <SumdndF9OeC6z6XanZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> George Grapman wrote:
> >
> >> Different banks will handle the situation differently. But when it
> >> happened to me, my credit union put provisional funds back into my
> >> account while they investigated.

<snip>

It's not just megabanks that screw up, either. The local credit union
where I bank cut off my online account access without warning early last
summer. When I called to find out why, they told me I had been
transferring money from one account with insufficient funds to another
account to cover bill-pay activity. This after happened two trouble-free
years of routine transfer activity from an interest-bearing account into
a checking account to cover bills paid. Suddenly, I'm transferring funds
from and to the wrong account? Don't think so-- it's become so routine I
could do it with my eyes closed.

Spoke with three different IT people at the CU. Each gave a different
explanation, all of which tended to blame me and/or my technical
ineptitude for the glitch. Naturally, I work top-level tech support at a
large multinational company.

Fed up, I went to the physical location and sat for two hours with a
young, but surprisingly competent assistant manager. She brought out my
transaction records for the previous 24 months, none of which showed any
inappropriate online activity on my part. She could not understand why
my online access was removed so suddenly, nor why I was being hit with
all these insufficient funds charges.

In the end, she wound up restoring my online access; refunding all of
the insufficient funds charges, plus all the charges for bill-pay
service (all these years, it should have been free with my automatic
deposit), plus all of the returned-check charges incurred during this
month-long nightmare. About $800 all told.

Since then, I have changed my situation at that place. Among other
alterations, I bought a line of credit which should automatically cover
overdraws in my checking account. The small quarterly LOC maintenance
fees are MUCH less expensive than even a single insufficient funds
charge (currently $25-per-incident), and there are no interest charges
unless the LOC is accessed-- which it never is.

That assistant manager's restitutive effort on my behalf is the primary
reason I continue to bank there. I have her business card in my wallet
and I make a friendly "how are you doing" call every so often just to
let her know how much I appreciate what she did (and to make sure she
still works there). They lose her, it's entirely likely they will lose
me. It's always good to feel you can trust the people who care for your
money.
--
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 11:20 am
From: Seerialmom


On Nov 11, 7:57 am, "unreelis...@aol.com" <user132...@aol.com> wrote:
> I called up my automated phone teller system at my credit union to
> check on my account, yesterday, and found out my checking account had
> almost no money left in it, when it was supposed to have about
> $1,500.
>
> Sure enough, a check for $1,500 had cleared about 5 days ago,
> bringing the account down to near zero.
>
> I sure didn't write the check for $1,500. It looks like a mistake
> on the part of the credit union, or just plain fraud. The check
> number was about 500 higher than my current check number.
>
> Of course I found out on a weekend, and the credit union is closed
> until Monday, so I get to stress out about it until Monday, at the
> least.
>
> The website for the credit union says each account is insured by the
> FCUA (Federal Credit Union Assoc) for $100,000.
>
> My question is whether the credit union will refund the $1,500 if
> it is indeed fraud.
>
> Thanks

Most likely. And my mom has had 2 of these "checks" go through her
credit union recently, too. Luckily hers were lower (like $120 and
$200); but it seemed more like "typo" problems from phone "bill pay"
since they were made out to CSAA and AT&T. What's really frustrating
is that her CU has to refer to the receiving bank...and they seem to
have no idea who's account it was on behalf of (eventually I believe
they figured it out).

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 3:55 pm
From: Parallax


George wrote:
> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>>> Different banks will handle the situation differently. But when it
>>> happened to me, my credit union put provisional funds back into my
>>> account while they investigated.
>>
>> I had the opposite one. I deposited a $500 check in a Wells-Fargo
>> ATM. The next day the phone system reflected a $5,000 deposit. I
>> checked my receipt and it showed $5000 deposited. I called the bank
>> and the rep said she was freezing my account because she suspected
>> fraud on my part.
>> I tried to explain that if I was defrauding them I would not be
>> bringing it to their attention. Too other reps refused to budge so I
>> had to go to my branch where the manager acted as if he was doing me a
>> favor by letting me have access to the funds on hand prior to that
>> deposit on warning me of the consequences of fraud.
>> The next day the mistake was rectified and as soon as all my
>> outstanding checks had been cleared I closed my account. The same
>> manager was called over and he still felt that he had done me a favor.
>
> Megabanks can be just ridiculous, dumb and bureaucratic. I have 2
> accounts at Wachovia. Everyone mentions that they are still First Union
> and they simply bought little Wachovia to claim it was a merger in order
> to dump the First Union reputation. I never had any issues until
> recently. They sent me a routine replacement debit card. I called to
> activate it and the automated system refused and it connected me to a
> person. Person says there is a "fraud alert" on the account. I asked why
> and he said it was because I had died in *1995*. I said that that was a
> long time ago and why did they happen to wait until now. He said I would
> need to report to the bank to prove I wasn't dead. I said that Wachovia
> was insulting me and this made no sense because there was no unusual
> activity on the account and the noted event was over 10 years ago.
>
> I asked to speak to a supervisor and they said everyone was busy. I
> insisted and the supervisor said they were doing this to "protect me". I
> asked if the checking account it was linked to was frozen and he said
> no. I asked him to give me a logical explanation about the protection
> since I could simply write a check because I am still in control of the
> account. He completly reinforced the "we are megabank and there is only
> our way" rule that seems to be written on every wall at their office by
> refusing to do anything. I asked to speak to whomever he reported to
> and he insisted he didn't report to anyone. Eventually he said that
> customers could not speak to anyone above him. I asked even if this was
> for a case when Wachovia was insulting a customer and didn't want to fix
> it by correcting their error and he said no.
>
> I am in the process of moving and closing the accounts now.

Wachovia is a scary place. A friend of mine had someone steal his
identity and got an ATM card sent to him, then started cleaning out the
account. After my friend went to his local branch, had the account
closed and a new one opened, then set up all sorts of notes and alarms
in the system that he will only do business in person at the branch and
no cards are to be issued by phone, their fine employees promptly issued
a card for the new account to the identity thief who called and
requested one.

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==============================================================================
TOPIC: No you can't . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88f83f1610e1798a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 11:09 am
From: A Veteran


In article <13jgji25i296lbb@corp.supernews.com>,
Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote:

> "Tockk" <tock1@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >Not really, anyway . . .
> >
> Oh, but you can sometimes, if you're really careful. Well, you
> almost can....

look before you leap. bush

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 12:08 pm
From: Dennis


On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:17:31 -0500, clams casino
<PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:

>Tockk wrote:
>
>>Not really, anyway . . .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>but a woodchuck could

We know George Will, but do you think Natalie Wood?
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Discount item scalping
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f44a8366af395738?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 11:16 am
From: Seerialmom


On Nov 11, 12:37 pm, BrotherSandMonkey <blin...@volcanomail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 10, 6:23 pm, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mark-up is when someone buys goods and resells them at a higher price
> > sufficient to make a reasonable profit.
>
> > All stores engage in mark-up. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.
>
> Whateva ya call it, have it markup. There should be scruples in the
> manner it's done and *what* products.
> Not Aldi and Save A Lot products. They should be sold to consumers
> only, not dealers. "No dealers. Thank you."
> I've seen this polite warning before.

I have seen limits on some loss-leaders in grocery stores before.
However your original argument is very biased; I doubt the "problem"
is limited to Arab or Asian stores (if it even is a problem, that is).

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 12:46 pm
From: James


On Nov 12, 2:16 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 11, 12:37 pm, BrotherSandMonkey <blin...@volcanomail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 6:23 pm, "Don K" <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
>
> > > Mark-up is when someone buys goods and resells them at a higher price
> > > sufficient to make a reasonable profit.
>
> > > All stores engage in mark-up. It has nothing to do with ethnicity.
>
> > Whateva ya call it, have it markup. There should be scruples in the
> > manner it's done and *what* products.
> > Not Aldi and Save A Lot products. They should be sold to consumers
> > only, not dealers. "No dealers. Thank you."
> > I've seen this polite warning before.
>
> I have seen limits on some loss-leaders in grocery stores before.
> However your original argument is very biased; I doubt the "problem"
> is limited to Arab or Asian stores (if it even is a problem, that is).

I don't see the problem.

No one is forcing you to shop at the corner store. You get convenience
and you pay more. I worked at a corner store, then at a 711 when I was
in high school. Thats the consumers choice. Buying loss leaders at
retail as well as wholesalers, thats the convenience store owners
choice.

I have seen store brands at corner stores in Canada. But I also know
that some of these stores brands can be bought at certain wholesalers
who are owned by supermarket chains. These wholesalers sometimes get
overstocksed items to sell off cheap.

I do see some people take advantage of loss leaders. Thats the grocery
stores problem, not mine. I will admit that on non -perishables I will
stock up myself, even making an extra trip if there are enough
bargains.

James


==============================================================================
TOPIC: Free Pressure-Sensitive Pen
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cec2190b8cf07028?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 12:22 pm
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==============================================================================
TOPIC: Pricks with awesome dicks!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33006f9fa8ddaf16?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 1:29 pm
From: Milan & Nenad Double Decker


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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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---
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67 Shithole Street
Banja Luka
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---
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324 Sucker Square
Belgrade
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-------------
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 1:38 pm
From: ampana


On 12 nov, 22:29, Milan & Nenad Double Decker
<serbian_pumpdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Let us introduce ourselves: we are Nenad Milicevic known as Raul
> Endymion, and Milan Popovic, known as Kiovva. Most of you already know
> about our spamming, canceling and flooding business last few years all
> over Usenet:
>
> Message-ID: <3op7ed$3ke$1@hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <1oj4ej$3ux$6@hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <29742532.422B7348@218.238.169.29>
> Message-ID: <BXV5oyCJ$tkVrU.8125205@netzero.net>
> Message-ID: <0d425d11.800a087b@yahoo.com>
>
> .and much, much more on *bih. and *soc. usenet newsgroups
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ..but we coming out as a gays today and we just wanted to share it
> with our closest friends. Why now? Well, We always wanted to start
> our own business and now seems the perfect time. We've opened a male
> escort service in Banja Luka and Belgrade. This escort service is
> unique because it consists of:
> - Nenad Milicevichttp://tinyurl.com/3yn8yl
> and
> - Milan Popovichttp://tinyurl.com/2lezs6http://tinyurl.com/ysmgd9
> and we do it all. Whatever you need done, we'll do, and that's why our
> business is flourishing.
>
> Here are some of the benefits of the
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Nenad & Milan" - "Serbian Pumpdicks Escort Service" - this is what we
> offer (and that's not all):http://tinyurl.com/33l2bhhttp://tinyurl.com/2lt5p6http://tinyurl.com/2bp5plhttp://tinyurl.com/ytc9lhhttp://tinyurl.com/326hamhttp://tinyurl.com/39tpxnhttp://tinyurl.com/3yeofwhttp://tinyurl.com/3xm6vrhttp://tinyurl.com/2jzoxqhttp://tinyurl.com/34on7s
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> - does not matter how ugly you are (we'll do anyone and anything)
> - does not matter how much you weigh
> - we do it all from A-Z
> - lowest rates in World
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>From swallowing, being shit and pissed on we do it all and at the
>
> lowest rates in the business.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Contact Info:
> ---
> Milan Popovic-Kiovva
> 67 Shithole Street
> Banja Luka
> Bosnia
> kio...@kiovva.rs.ba
> ---
> Nenad Milicevic-Raul Endymion
> ICQ 208030128
> 324 Sucker Square
> Belgrade
> Serbia (as small as Nokia)
> endym...@deadspam.com
> endim...@myrealbox.com
>
> -------------
> Also, you can contact us via our provider:
>
> Nenad Milicevic
> IP: 77.105.54.234
>
> inetnum: 77.105.48.0 - 77.105.63.255
> netname: SEZAMPRO-NET
> descr: PCS - SezamPro On-Line d.o.o.
> descr: 11000 Beograd, Lamartinova 21
> country: RS
> org: ORG-PSOd1-RIPE
> admin-c: SEZR1-RIPE
> tech-c: SEZR1-RIPE
> rev-srv: ns1.sezampro.yu
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>
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> fax-no: +381113081811
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> mnt-ref: SezamPro-MNT
> mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 1:56 pm
From: "Runge4"

"ampana" <ampana@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:1194903521.327936.80430@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
> On 12 nov, 22:29, Milan & Nenad Double Decker
> <serbian_pumpdi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Let us introduce ourselves: we are Nenad Milicevic known as Raul
>> Endymion, and Milan Popovic, known as Kiovva. Most of you already know
>> about our spamming, canceling and flooding business last few years all
>> over Usenet:
>>
>> Message-ID: <3op7ed$3ke$1@hotmail.com>
>> Message-ID: <1oj4ej$3ux$6@hotmail.com>
>> Message-ID: <29742532.422B7348@218.238.169.29>
>> Message-ID: <BXV5oyCJ$tkVrU.8125205@netzero.net>
>> Message-ID: <0d425d11.800a087b@yahoo.com>
>>
>> .and much, much more on *bih. and *soc. usenet newsgroups
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> ..but we coming out as a gays today and we just wanted to share it
>> with our closest friends. Why now? Well, We always wanted to start
>> our own business and now seems the perfect time. We've opened a male
>> escort service in Banja Luka and Belgrade. This escort service is
>> unique because it consists of:
>> - Nenad Milicevichttp://tinyurl.com/3yn8yl
>> and
>> - Milan Popovichttp://tinyurl.com/2lezs6http://tinyurl.com/ysmgd9
>> and we do it all. Whatever you need done, we'll do, and that's why our
>> business is flourishing.
>>
>> Here are some of the benefits of the
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "Nenad & Milan" - "Serbian Pumpdicks Escort Service" - this is what we
>> offer (and that's not
>> all):http://tinyurl.com/33l2bhhttp://tinyurl.com/2lt5p6http://tinyurl.com/2bp5plhttp://tinyurl.com/ytc9lhhttp://tinyurl.com/326hamhttp://tinyurl.com/39tpxnhttp://tinyurl.com/3yeofwhttp://tinyurl.com/3xm6vrhttp://tinyurl.com/2jzoxqhttp://tinyurl.com/34on7s
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> - does not matter how ugly you are (we'll do anyone and anything)
>> - does not matter how much you weigh
>> - we do it all from A-Z
>> - lowest rates in World
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~>From swallowing, being shit and
>> pissed on we do it all and at the
>>
>> lowest rates in the business.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Contact Info:
>> ---
>> Milan Popovic-Kiovva
>> 67 Shithole Street
>> Banja Luka
>> Bosnia
>> kio...@kiovva.rs.ba
>> ---
>> Nenad Milicevic-Raul Endymion
>> ICQ 208030128
>> 324 Sucker Square
>> Belgrade
>> Serbia (as small as Nokia)
>> endym...@deadspam.com
>> endim...@myrealbox.com
>>
>> -------------
>> Also, you can contact us via our provider:
>>
>> Nenad Milicevic
>> IP: 77.105.54.234
>>
>> inetnum: 77.105.48.0 - 77.105.63.255
>> netname: SEZAMPRO-NET
>> descr: PCS - SezamPro On-Line d.o.o.
>> descr: 11000 Beograd, Lamartinova 21
>> country: RS
>> org: ORG-PSOd1-RIPE
>> admin-c: SEZR1-RIPE
>> tech-c: SEZR1-RIPE
>> rev-srv: ns1.sezampro.yu
>> rev-srv: ns2.sezampro.yu
>> status: ASSIGNED PA
>> mnt-by: SezamPro-MNT
>> source: RIPE # Filtered
>>
>> organisation: ORG-PSOd1-RIPE
>> org-name: PCS - SezamPro On-Line d.o.o.
>> org-type: LIR
>> address: Lamartinova 21
>> address: 11000
>> address: Beograd
>> address: Serbia
>> phone: +381113081818
>> phone: +381113081890
>> fax-no: +381113081811
>> abuse-mailbox: ab...@sezampro.yu
>> admin-c: SSS50-RIPE
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>>
>> role: SezamPro RIPE administrator ROLE
>> address: PCS - SezamPro On-Line
>> address: Lamartinova 21
>> address: 11000 Beograd
>> address: Serbia
>> phone: +381-11-308-1818
>> phone: +381-11-308-1890
>> fax-no: +381-11-308-1811
>
>


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 1:50 pm
From: "Sal Khalbar"

"Milan & Nenad Double Decker" <serbian_pumpdicks@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le
message de news:1194878711.248971.202350@s15g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Let us introduce ourselves: we are...
.......SNIP.......
=====

... des amateurs de Q !!!


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TOPIC: MAKE MONEY USING PAYPAL AS SEEN ON OPRAH AND 20/20
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 2:20 pm
From: shawno1205


THE PAYPAL 6 DOLLAR MONEY-MAKING METHOD

AS SEEN ON OPRAH and 20/20 EARN HUGE $$$$$$$$

I gave it a try, hey its only $6, I figured at least 6 people would
respond out of the MILLIONS of people that use the internet.

You should give it a try too!

You have nothing to lose, and a whole lot to gain!

A little while back, I was browsing through some interesting adds,
just like you are now and came across an article similar to this that
said you could make thousands dollars within weeks with only an
initial investment of $6.00!

So I thought, "Yeah, right, it must be a scam",
but like most of us,I was curious, so I kept reading.

Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 though paypal to each of the
emails stated in the article.

You then place your own email address in the bottom of the list at ..
6, and post the article in at least 200 news groups. (There are a
lot)

So after thinking about it, I went ahead trying it.

I figured what have I got to lose except $6.00 small dollars, right?

Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about
the legal aspects of it.

It follows the same regulations as the "mailed chainletters, which
according to the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) is indeed legal!

Then I invested the measly $6.00.

Within days, I started getting money in my paypal account!

Even if you get 5 people and they get 5 people.

1. 1*5=5
2. 5*5=25
3. 5*25=125
4. 5*125=625
5. 5*625=3,125
6. 5*3125=$15,625 is yours .
I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept coming in.

This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over
$24,641.00 and it's still coming in rapidly.

It's Certainly worth $6.00.

Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, why it works?

REQUIREMENTS:

You must have a verified paypal account.

If you do not have an account you can go to www.paypal.com......
and get a free account.

I would suggest signing up for a business account because it does not
limit you to the amount of money you can receive.

Example: with a Personal account you are limited to receiving $500.00
a month and withdrawing $500.00 a month.

And trust me you WILL be receiving more than $500.00 a month!

Like i mentoined before In order to place the initial $6 into your
account, you will have to verify your bank account with paypal (which
may take a few days).

STEP 1:

Send, through paypal, $1.00 to each email on the below list. Make the
subject of the payment "Email List" and in the comments, write "PLEASE
PUT ME ON YOUR EMAIL LIST." What you are doing is creating a service
by this and best of all you are not giving your address to anyone ...
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL!

The email list:

#1) bearcat@keyway.net
#2) christinaaj@gmail.com
#3) value4u2@hotmail.com
#4) hsweaney1224@hotmail.com
#5) kgunter@cwjamaica.com
#6] shawn_stillwell@yahoo.com

STEP 2:

Now take the ..1 email off the list that you see above, move the other
addresses up(6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc) and add YOUR email
address (the one used on the paypal account) as number 6 on the list.

STEP 3:

Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to
original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200
newsgroups, message board. (I think there are close to 32,000 groups)
All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money
you make - as well as everyone else on the list!

For example: you log on to any search engine like yahoo.com,
google.com, altavista.com, excite.com then you search with subject
like ?millionaire message board? or ?money making message board? or ?
employment message board? or ?money making discussions? or ?money
making forum? or ?business message board? Etc...


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 2:44 pm
From: judy.1113@163.com


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 2:53 pm
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac


Rise up and shine, white sons and daughters
Rise up and shine, you gotta fight to part those waters
When we swim in the light, all will be okay
The black, yellow and brown man will wash away.
--------------------
Ovu pesmicu pevala mi je mama kad sam bio mali, dok me je
uspavljivala. Bio sam ušuškan u dekicu sa likom našeg velikog
vojskovo e Dragoljuba Mihailovi a, sa zidnog postera su me gledale
tople, nebesko-plave o i našeg velikog Firera, a tata je u drugoj
sobi
isprobavao šubaru sa kokardom, koja mu je ostala od tatinog tate (tj.
mog dede).

Sa tom šubarom na glavi tata je ostvario velike pobede na vukovarskom
ratištu. Doneo nam je te '91. godine mnogo suvenira: ogrlicu sa
odrezanim prsti ima ustaške dece, maramicu u kojoj su bile o i
nekoliko ustaških bojovnika uhva enih kako u civilu oru zemlju ispred
ku e (a sigurno su zakopavali oružje), kao i neke udne crvenkasto-
bele kuglice, koje je nehajno bacio na sto. Dok su one odskakivale po
stolu, kao da su žive, tata se šeretski nasmejao i rekao mi: "Nenade,
tatin mudonjo, ako ostaneš bez ovoga, više nisi muško!"

I tako, sad sam veliki. Roditelji su mi usadili ogromnu ljubav prema
svom narodu i još ve u mržnju prema drugim narodima. Još uvek mi u
glavi odzvanjaju re i moga tate, koji mi je neprestano ponavljao:
"Sine Nenade, upamti da su za sva zla ovog sveta krivi Židovi, a
posle
njih Hrvati i poturice. I zato, Nenade, tatin sokole, kada budeš
stasao u pravog, arijevskog muškarca, kad god budeš imao priliku,
treba da ostvariš zadatak koji su nam u amanet ostavili Sveti Sava,
Dimitrije Ljoti , Draža Mihailovi i drugi veliki sinovi srpskog
naroda: TAMANI BRE SVE NESRBE, a najviše Židove i Hrvate, i to bez
milosti; odrasli, žene deca... Ma sve pod kamu ili pred cev, jer ima
bre da im se napijemo krvi za sve što su nam vekovima radili!"

Eto, to sam ukratko ja, Nenad Mili evi , na juznetu znan kao Raul
Endymion, ina e dete sa beogradskog asfalta. Ukoliko imate neka
dodatna pitanja, ili želite da sa mnom podelite vaša razmišljanja o
opstanku srpske rase, javite se na endymion@deadspam.com,
endimion@myrealbox.com ili kontaktirajte me na moj ICQ: 208030128


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 12 2007 3:19 pm
From: judy.1113@163.com


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