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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijijo
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:03 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

MEXICO CITY (AFP) - Most of Mexico's southern state of Tabasco was
underwater Thursday, as hundreds of thousands of people waited for
rescuers to pull them out of their homes in the worst floods ever in
the region.

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

About 30,000 people were placed in 256 state shelters while 300,000
remain trapped in flooded homes, waiting for military helicopters and
boats to rescue them, the state government said in a statement.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

"The overflow caused by the heavy rains that continue to hit the
region allows us to say 500 cubic meters (of water) has been added" to
the flooding, Tabasco government under secretary Juan Molina told
Formato 21 radio.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The floods worsened over the past three days as authorities drained
water from two dams in the neighboring state of Chiapas to prevent
them from exceeding their capacity. The drainage caused three Tabasco
rivers to burst their banks.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko sdfssdfsdfsd
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:04 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijij
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:05 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko aala
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:41 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

Chris Bergin and his brother, Ben, were jamming along to "Message in a
Bottle" on the videogame Guitar Hero 2 during a storm in June when a
bright light flashed and a thunderclap shook their house in Wilton,
Conn.

The lightning strike nearby triggered a power surge that snaked
through the house's electrical system to Mr. Bergin's PlayStation 2
then traveled through the wiring to the plastic guitar controller
pressed up against his stomach.

"I just remember falling to the ground and looking at my brother
'cause he was on the ground, too," says the 15-year-old Mr. Bergin.
The two brothers weren't hurt, but their PlayStation was fried, along
with their laptop computer, television set, cable and phone wiring and
ceiling fan.

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

Lightning safety experts, endorsing common sense, have long advised
that indoors is the safest place to be during an electrical storm. The
National Weather Service recently adopted the slogan, "When thunder
roars, go indoors."

But the spread of high-tech devices, including laptops and videogames,
means there are new ways in which people can suffer injuries or
property losses, even in the relative safety of their homes. A
division of Sony Corp., Sony Computer Entertainment America, the maker
of PlayStation products, says it hadn't heard of incidents like this
and says its devices come with safety instructions about lightning.
Activision Inc., which makes the Guitar Hero game, advocates staying
off electronics during storms.

Mark Earley, chief electrical engineer at the National Fire Protection
Association, says the new lightning safety slogan should be modified
slightly: "When thunder roars, stay indoors -- and read a book."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:26 am
From: rsaiyed40@gmail.com

On Nov 2, 12:41 pm, Nenad Milicevic <serbian_sswaf...@trashymail.com>
wrote:
> Milenko Kindl
>
> Chris Bergin and his brother, Ben, were jamming along to "Message in a
> Bottle" on the videogame Guitar Hero 2 during a storm in June when a
> bright light flashed and a thunderclap shook their house in Wilton,
> Conn.
>
> The lightning strike nearby triggered a power surge that snaked
> through the house's electrical system to Mr. Bergin's PlayStation 2
> then traveled through the wiring to the plastic guitar controller
> pressed up against his stomach.
>
> "I just remember falling to the ground and looking at my brother
> 'cause he was on the ground, too," says the 15-year-old Mr. Bergin.
> The two brothers weren't hurt, but their PlayStation was fried, along
> with their laptop computer, television set, cable and phone wiring and
> ceiling fan.
>
> More from The Wall Street Journal Online:
>
> · Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester
>
> · When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House
>
> · Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills
>
> Lightning safety experts, endorsing common sense, have long advised
> that indoors is the safest place to be during an electrical storm. The
> National Weather Service recently adopted the slogan, "When thunder
> roars, go indoors."
>
> But the spread of high-tech devices, including laptops and videogames,
> means there are new ways in which people can suffer injuries or
> property losses, even in the relative safety of their homes. A
> division of Sony Corp., Sony Computer Entertainment America, the maker
> of PlayStation products, says it hadn't heard of incidents like this
> and says its devices come with safety instructions about lightning.
> Activision Inc., which makes the Guitar Hero game, advocates staying
> off electronics during storms.
>
> Mark Earley, chief electrical engineer at the National Fire Protection
> Association, says the new lightning safety slogan should be modified
> slightly: "When thunder roars, stay indoors -- and read a book."

send me tech. inform. and photos

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko aal
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:41 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko aalal
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 2:28 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

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TOPIC: What thread count sheets do you buy?
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:25 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

Chloe wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
> news:xsidnY0RSrjvx7fanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Chloe wrote:
>>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ULednRXBkLlnjLfanZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>>>> rick++ wrote:
>>>>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
>>>>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
>>>>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
>>>>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
>>>>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
>>>>> of quality or functionality on others.
>>>> I agree with your definition.
>>>>
>>>> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
>>>> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
>>>> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
>>>> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?
>>> If you don't care how long they last, and by that I mean how long it is
>>> before they develop large rips and tears, then sure, go with cheapest.
>> Are you sure higher thread count equates to durability? I would think
>> weaving in a little poly would make sheets last for a long time. Or
>> that different fabrics might use different weight threads. But I'm no
>> expert.
>
> Pretty good article here: note the final paragraph on the second page
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1751253&page=1
>
> and
>
> http://reviews.ebay.com/TRUTH-ABOUT-THREAD-COUNT-EGYPTIAN-COTTON-SHEETS-BED-SET_W0QQugidZ10000000001274215
>

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TOPIC: craigslist.com sucks
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:30 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

cbielich@yahoo.com wrote:
> So basically this site sucks. Let me tell you the main reason why.
> THEY ARE COMMUNISTS.......
>
> Yes they are communists - people why in the world are we going to
> support a site like this in the US. STOP USING CRAIGLIST. Dont believe
> me? just read this right off their site about their CEO.
>
> http://www.craigslist.org/about/jim.buckmaster.html
>
> Yeah I was dumbfounded too when I read that after using craigslist for
> about a year. I will never use it again. Instead I use askorfind.com.
> Basically same thing but they are not communists.
>
> IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD NOT USE
> CRAIGSLIST.COM
>

Imo,there's so few of them left, they're really quite harmless.

Could be worse, he could be a greedy capitalist and charge for ads.

Even the "commie" Chinese are becoming $$Capitalists$$, and lovin it.

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TOPIC: This group is dying from spam.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:42 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

The Real Bev wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Rick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone wants to seriously consider doing it though visit the
>>>>>> group: alt.config
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to begin the proposal process.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTDT and the group was created. It's alive and the moderators pay
>>>>> attention, but it doesn't get used much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spam isn't the problem with usenet, it's the loons. Check out what
>>>>> happened to rec.bicycles.off-road.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spam is easy to recognize and skip. Loons can be killfiled (dear
>>>>> lord when will thunderbird get REAL filters for newsgroups, making
>>>>> it possible to eliminate any postings originating from googlegroups?).
>>
>>>> Trouble is that there is plenty of non spam from groups.google now.
>>
>>> Perhaps.
>>
>> No perhaps about it, presumably because its easier to
>> setup than a conventional news client and news server.
>
> People who are unwilling or too dumb to do something a better way aren't
> likely to say anything I want to hear.
>
>>> Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas.
>>
>> A rolling stone gathers no moss.
>>
>>> I'm willing to make the sacrifice.
>>
>> It makes more sense to just ignore the spam. It isnt hard to work out
>> what is spam.
>
> Of course not, but if you've skipped your usenet obligations for a few
> weeks, the sheer quantity is annoying.
>

Your own fault. Who authorized your three week absence, anyway...???

Hey, we finally got a Trader Joe's here, intown, even!! It should be
quieted down by now, I missed the Grand opening.

Never been to one...got any suggestions,..,,what to buy or to avoid...??

<JonK>
Atlanta,Ga.

"She hasn't run anything, and the government of the United States is
not a place for a president to be an intern." ~MITT ROMNEY

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TOPIC: I Hate Low Flush Toilets
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Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:46 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

Millhaven wrote:
>
> I had been eating nothing but Halloween candy all week and that was
> probably why I was getting pretty constipated. I don't think I went
> since Tuesday. Saturday I had some booze and some real food and felt
> some familiar twinges in my colon right at the party.

Next time, wash the junque down with a sweet potato and large glass of
water.

How about, next time, take a pooper-scooper and "doggie" bag with you.
Do yer biz in the backyard...after marking your turf, of course.

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TOPIC: A legal method of asset protection is being offered .....
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:17 am
From: CollegeDyanmics

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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:31 am
From: "jerryl"

"CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynamics@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> your car.
>
> Check out the method at:
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>
> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> seized.
>
> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> protection.
>

Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
stupid?

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:36 am
From: CollegeDyanmics

On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> > your car.
>
> > Check out the method at:
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>
> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> > seized.
>
> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> > protection.
>
> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
> stupid?

I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:13 am
From: clams casino

CollegeDyanmics wrote:

>
>
>I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
>
>
and spamming newsgroups is against eBay rules - nice way to have his
account removed.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:21 am
From: George Grapman

CollegeDyanmics wrote:
> On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
>>> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
>>> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
>>> your car.
>>> Check out the method at:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>>> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
>>> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
>>> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
>>> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
>>> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
>>> seized.
>>> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
>>> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
>>> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
>>> protection.
>> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
>> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
>> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
>> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
>> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
>> stupid?
>
> I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
Why did you need to buy it twice?

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:22 am
From: George Grapman

CollegeDyanmics wrote:
> I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> your car.
>
> Check out the method at:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:IT&item=180175999284&_trksid=p3984.cSELL.m315.lVI
>
> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> seized.
>
> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> protection.
>
So you purchased your own product?

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TOPIC: bar soap..
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b5f9d2e8213902b4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 6:56 am
From: fedonnalyne@gmail.com

can anyone can give me a historical supply of bar soap from the year
2000-2004?tnx...

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TOPIC: Alzheimer's preventative ? Pennies a day
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8bfe630db7d8fef4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:18 am
From: A Veteran

Curcumin has been used for thousands of years as a medicinal preparation
made from turmeric or as turmeric powder used as a preservative and
coloring agent in foods (yellow curry powder). Curcumin was isolated as
the major yellow pigment in turmeric, a pure chemical
(diferulomethane). Curcumin¹s structure is similar to other plant
pigments called polyphenolics (chemicals containing muliple ³phenol²
groups) which often have potent anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory
properties and associated health benefits. Many similar plant pigments
are known as potent antioxidants, for example, the pigments extracted
from grapes in red wine ( resveratrol), or in green tea (catechins) or
in fruit juices (blueberries, strawberries, pomegranates etc) typically
contain polyphenolic antioxidants and have been studied for their
possible medicinal or preventive value.

Curcumin has been developed by the US National Cancer Institute
(NCI) and academic investigators around the world as a potent
anti-carcinogen. Because of low toxicity and great efficacy in multiple
in vitro and in vivo cancer models, curcumin was selected for further
development, put through extensive toxicology testing and has
successively made it through the first stages (Phase I) of clinical
testing abroad and is currently in clinical trials at several sites in
the U.S. All of this work by many labs has provided the basis to quickly
and safely explore curcumin¹s potential for Alzheimer¹s and other
neurological diseases.

Curcumin has shown efficacy in many other pre-clinical culture and
animal models for diseases related to aging and chronic treatment with
related ³curcuminoids² have even been able to increase the lifespan of
mice.

Curcumin and Alzheimer¹s Disease. Our group has tested curcumin
in several models for Alzheimer¹s and found that it not only reduces
oxidative damage and inflammation (as expected), but also reduces
amyloid accumulation and synaptic marker loss and promotes amyloid
phagocytosis and clearance. Curcumin worked to prevent synaptic marker
and cognitive deficits caused by amyloid peptide infusion and abeta
oligomer toxicity in vitro. Our work on curcumin and AD is discussed in
detail in our publications. and for information on enrolling in a
curcumin trial see trials link .

http://alzheimer.neurology.ucla.edu/Curcumin.html

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

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TOPIC: US-made pizza recalled due to E. coli; maybe China should boycott all
US-made pizzas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9884cdeb97cd8332?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:23 am
From: david_huang2007@hotmail.com

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101

Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
Thursday.

General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.

The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.

General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
becoming ill.

The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
recovered.

The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
provided the pepperoni.

E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
disease.

The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
pepperoni in combination with other toppings.

The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
Tom Forsythe said.

_______________________________________________

You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
picking on China in vain.

David Huang

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