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Monday, January 7, 2008

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TOPIC: Donation Question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ede7dc79ef5b9e1e?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:26 pm
From: "Jerry Boswell"

"John Weiss" <jrweiss98155NOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:AsWdnfNLDOOSBBzanZ2dnUVZ_vamnZ2d@comcast.com...

> Charities who solicit donations and professional solicitors hired by
> charities all have legitimate administrative costs. Whether they are
> credit card fees or hiring someone to take checks to the bank, they should
> remain outside the consideration of the donor.

Thanks for your common-sense comments; all this hand-wringing about credit
card costs seems a bit much. If the charity decides to accept credit card
donations, they've obviously decided that they're coming out money ahead by
doing so despite the cost involved.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:29 pm
From: "Jerry Boswell"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:y4ednRiHcZKAvRzanZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Dawn wrote:
>> Hello to the group,
>> If I make a donation to a non-profit charity using a credit card, does
>> the charity pay the credit card fees? Dawn, who so far just writes
>> checks.
>
> Absolutely, thats why the CC companies do all of the marketing because
> they want to insert themselves into every financial transaction.
>
> What I do for charitable contributions is buy those $0.39 money orders and
> scribble my name on them. The charity gets the full value and there is no
> possibly my name will end up on some solicitation list because they don't
> know who I am.

No, but they also can't provide you with proof that you've donated the
amount you claim if you itemize and if you're ever audited.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 6:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Jerry Boswell <jboss@gmail.com> wrote
> John Weiss <jrweiss98155NOSPAM@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote

>> Charities who solicit donations and professional solicitors hired by
>> charities all have legitimate administrative costs. Whether they are
>> credit card fees or hiring someone to take checks to the bank, they
>> should remain outside the consideration of the donor.

> Thanks for your common-sense comments; all this hand-wringing about credit card costs seems a bit much.

Your lies about hand wringing in spades. ALL the OP was
asking about was what delivers the most cash to the charity.

> If the charity decides to accept credit card donations, they've obviously decided that they're coming out money ahead
> by doing so despite the cost involved.

But that also involves the difference between getting the money
for sure by getting the card details from the individual and the
risk that they wont get around to posting a check etc too.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 9:33 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Evelyn C. Leeper wrote:
> Why don't people just take the envelope, put a large address label over
> the charity's address, and write the new address on that?

That's exactly what I've done on at least one occasion. The self-addressed
stamped envelope wasn't from a charity, I don't think, but it was the same
idea either way.

- Logan

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TOPIC: Best frugal technology deal you've gotten
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/432b1da46fece658?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:43 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jan 4, 5:36 am, "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote:
> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
> months?
>
> For me, it was the PNY 2 GB USB flash drive I picked up at Staples for
> $8.48 using a competitor's $15 off coupon. I actually got two of them, to
> replace the old 512 MB ones my wife and I were using.

Stumbled upon these Sony VRD-MC3 DVD recorders (mostly to record my
analog VHS tapes to DVD) at Sam's Club for $99.81 (MSRP is about
$299). Bought one for me and one for my brother. No PC needed; has a
little LCD screen on it.

Other recent "deals" though they pale in comparison to yours was about
10 USB 512MB flash drives I got at Target on clearance for $4.99 each;
made for nice stocking stuffers.

My favorite tech deal was the 50 cent Kodak "instant" camera I bought
at a silent auction about 20 years ago; I was able to turn that 50
cents into $50 because of a class action lawsuit; got $50 worth of
Kodak product vouchers...got ton's o' batteries with it.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 4:45 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jan 7, 2:02 pm, pc <p...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
> > "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote innews:fllcpc$f0h$1@aioe.org:
>
> >> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
> >> months?
>
> >> For me, it was the PNY 2 GB USB flash drive I picked up at Staples
> >> for
> >> $8.48 using a competitor's $15 off coupon. I actually got two of
> >> them, to replace the old 512 MB ones my wife and I were using.
>
> > Free iPod from Key Bank.
>
> My best frugal technology purchase [not 'deal'..because I paid the going
> rate] was an Asus eeepc that I got for Christmas.
>
> My old laptop was on it's last legs so I went for the eeepc. I am in
> love with this thing. And I am finally taking the Linux leap.
>
> The only thing that I wish I could find is a cheap way to connect a
> pcmcia Verizon card to USB. Any ideas out there?
>
> ..PC

Isn't there a PCMCIA to USB adapter? I'm pretty sure I saw one
recently...check on frys.com .

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 6:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 7, 2:02 pm, pc <p...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>>> "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote innews:fllcpc$f0h$1@aioe.org:
>>
>>>> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
>>>> months?
>>
>>>> For me, it was the PNY 2 GB USB flash drive I picked up at Staples
>>>> for
>>>> $8.48 using a competitor's $15 off coupon. I actually got two of
>>>> them, to replace the old 512 MB ones my wife and I were using.
>>
>>> Free iPod from Key Bank.
>>
>> My best frugal technology purchase [not 'deal'..because I paid the
>> going rate] was an Asus eeepc that I got for Christmas.
>>
>> My old laptop was on it's last legs so I went for the eeepc. I am in
>> love with this thing. And I am finally taking the Linux leap.

>> The only thing that I wish I could find is a cheap way to
>> connect a pcmcia Verizon card to USB. Any ideas out there?

> Isn't there a PCMCIA to USB adapter?

Yes, but it wont do what he wants to do.

> I'm pretty sure I saw one recently...check on frys.com .

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 9:24 pm
From: "zcarenow@yahoo.com"

On Jan 7, 8:30 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 7, 2:02 pm, pc <p...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> >> Gordon wrote:
> >>> "OhioGuy" <n...@none.net> wrote innews:fllcpc$f0h$1@aioe.org:
>
> >>>> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
> >>>> months?
>
> >>>> For me, it was the PNY 2 GB USB flash drive I picked up at Staples
> >>>> for
> >>>> $8.48 using a competitor's $15 off coupon. I actually got two of
> >>>> them, to replace the old 512 MB ones my wife and I were using.
>
> >>> Free iPod from Key Bank.
>
> >> My best frugal technology purchase [not 'deal'..because I paid the
> >> going rate] was an Asus eeepc that I got for Christmas.
>
> >> My old laptop was on it's last legs so I went for the eeepc. I am in
> >> love with this thing. And I am finally taking the Linux leap.
> >> The only thing that I wish I could find is a cheap way to
> >> connect a pcmcia Verizon card to USB. Any ideas out there?
> > Isn't there a PCMCIA to USB adapter?
>
> Yes, but it wont do what he wants to do.
>
> > I'm pretty sure I saw one recently...check on frys.com .

A 42" Olevia HDTV LCD 1080p for $650 which included coupon and rebate
from Micro Center.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 10:16 pm
From: "Tockk"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:fllcpc$f0h$1@aioe.org...
> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
> months?

A USB-to-Ouija board adaptor. Now my PC can tell the future.
-Tock

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 10:32 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Tockk wrote:
> "OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:fllcpc$f0h$1@aioe.org...

>> What's the best technology deal you've gotten in the past couple of
>> months?

> A USB-to-Ouija board adaptor. Now my PC can tell the future.

If it really works, can I borrow it? I have some online stock trading
I want to do.

- Logan

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TOPIC: burt's bees sold to CLOROX
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e32a543f81f9f1d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 5:53 pm
From: val189

On Jan 7, 1:55 pm, <nos...@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote:
> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:c5tgj.1330$K%6.1104@trndny04...
>
> > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:1ysgj.5890$qV.1210@trnddc03...
> > > better start reading the labels.
>
> > >http://www.burtsbees.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/UtilityView?conten...
>
> > they got almost $1B. tom's of maine sold out a while back, to colgate, i
> > think.
>
> Great, so now we'll be literally forced to brush our teeth with a
> known carcinogen (sodium laurel sulfate). Burt's was one of
> the last remaining remnants of morality in the U.S. market.

baking soda, salt - definitely frugal, too.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 6:58 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:37e735d4-f6c6-4699-b8d1-f2c153d7b6a8@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 1:55 pm, <nos...@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote:
>> "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:c5tgj.1330$K%6.1104@trndny04...
>>
>> > "AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <der...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:1ysgj.5890$qV.1210@trnddc03...
>> > > better start reading the labels.
>>
>> > >http://www.burtsbees.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/UtilityView?conten...
>>
>> > they got almost $1B. tom's of maine sold out a while back, to
>> > colgate, i
>> > think.
>>
>> Great, so now we'll be literally forced to brush our teeth with a
>> known carcinogen (sodium laurel sulfate). Burt's was one of
>> the last remaining remnants of morality in the U.S. market.
>
> baking soda, salt - definitely frugal, too.

the dentist told me that baking soda is too abrasive to be used daily.
didn't ask about salt.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 9:38 pm
From: Gene S. Berkowitz

In article <1ysgj.5890$qV.1210@trnddc03>, derjda@hotmail.com says...
> better start reading the labels.
>
> http://www.burtsbees.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/UtilityView?contentPageId=590&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&langId=-1

Considering that the sale was announced on 31-Oct-2007, that probably
won't make much difference.

--Gene

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TOPIC: Chinese Exports Safe
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/656ddf21b6fa6b07?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 5:58 pm
From: val189

Rave on .....I won't be convinced.

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TOPIC: Flashlights and LED Upgrades
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/71b56bde90a3c044?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 6:20 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In <affdd401-13eb-4d71-8f44-d7fa0a5b805a@21g2000hsj.googlegroups.com>,
Blade wrote:

>(In short, various LED flashlight/upgrade products)

There is now an LED "retrofit bulb" for 3-D-cell Mag lights. I just saw
that today at Sears. It appears to me to be similar to the LED assembly
in the 3-AA Mag rather than the Nite Ize products that I have seen before.

I am somewhat impressed by the 3-AA LED Mag, which I have seen at Sears
and Target.

I am impressed by the light output of Dorcy LED flashlights with LEDs of
at least 1 watt. The ones that I have tried have LED current varying
greatly with battery voltage, but they do appear to me to be good at
"stretching out" batteries that are getting low. They should work better
and more evenly (though with not as much of the spectacular initial
brightness) with rechargeable batteries.

NOTE - flashlights deployed in locations where they are used infrequently
and will be needed for emergencies should have non-rechargeable batteries,
since rechargeable ones self-discharge faster!

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 8:14 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <26ecd974-b5ca-4a55-9654-2622af936f9b@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
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TOPIC: Inexpensive way to remove oil stains from concrete driveway?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/189a2e06f42e1e51?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 8:19 pm
From: "zcarenow@yahoo.com"

My old car had leaked oil on the driveway over a period of 2 yrs. How
do i remove the oil stains without getting a costly power washer? Are
there household detergents or solvents i can use. The stain is about 3
long and 2 feet wide. Thanks.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 9:20 pm
From: sdiwc2

On Jan 7, 9:19 pm, "zcare...@yahoo.com" <zcare...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My old car had leaked oil on the driveway over a period of 2 yrs. How
> do i remove the oil stains without getting a costly power washer? Are
> there household detergents or solvents i can use. The stain is about 3
> long and 2 feet wide. Thanks.

Buy some powder Tide detergent. Sprinkle heavly on oil stain and let
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hour or so shovel up the the oil soaked tide. Sprinkle another very
light layer and scrub with a broom. Then hose it off.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 9:54 pm
From: Logan Shaw

zcarenow@yahoo.com wrote:
> My old car had leaked oil on the driveway over a period of 2 yrs. How
> do i remove the oil stains without getting a costly power washer? Are
> there household detergents or solvents i can use. The stain is about 3
> long and 2 feet wide. Thanks.

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Date: Mon, Jan 7 2008 10:19 pm
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