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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 12:34 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ae31bb20-8276-4270-885d-9754c24498d2@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 15, 7:15 pm, KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop
> <kwo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 15, 7:59 pm, Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A vested interest does not mean the best interest for the buyer.
>>
>>> Remember this whenever you are the buyer and it will serve you well.
>>
>>> TMT
>>
>> Classic example was when Bush issued us taxpayers those tax refund
>> checks in 2001. The Home Depot ran ads on radio reminding folks that
>> they could spend those refunds at the HD. I kid you not. The other
>> best interest served was you got financing options for purchases over
>> $299 I believe. The refund checks were for $300 if memory serves me
>> right.
> Good example.
Nope.
> I was SHOCKED to hear our idiot President to publicly state that
> consumers should SPEND - SPEND - SPEND shortly after 9/11.
More fool you.
> That is when I realized we had an idiot in the White House.
We've always known that you are just that.
> The sub prime crash is proving this opinion to be correct.
We'll see.
> The next check you get from Washington in their latest quick fix should be saved ....
> when you are thrown out of your house you will need that money for food.
Nope. Anyone with a clue wont have been stupid enough to sign up
for a sub prime loan, they would have qualified for a prime loan, and
so wont be being thrown out of their house, you watch.
> ******************************************88
> Thereby defeating the whole purpose of the check.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasyland.
Just as 9/11 was survived fine by anyone with a clue, so will the latest glitch too.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 6:17 am
From: clams_casino
Bob F wrote:
>"Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1393eb3d-9a16-4592-8a8b-c0c0d427086c@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>On Jan 18, 3:59 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Cindy, replying to spammers just encourages them. Better to set your
>>>filters to avoid gmail addresses, and never quote their message
>>>including the website they want to promote.
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>I didn't know that Google Groups provides filters... I'll have to
>>poke around
>>the interface.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>
>If you do as he says, you'll miss a lot of helpful posts.
>
>
>
>
Almost NO posts via google groups are worthy as 99.9978675% are spam.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 2:58 am
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While a number of blogs are reporting that Google launched a new
m.youtube.com site today, that web page has actually been active
since
last summer.
But when YouTube Mobile launched, users could only access a small
subset of YouTube videos. Now Google has made the entire YouTube
universe available via the mobile site. The new improved mobile site
has all the usual features. You can search, favorite, leave comments,
or share videos with friends. Plus you can rack up minutes on your
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Google has also released a public beta of a YouTube application for
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k800 and w880 are officially supported, but you may have some luck
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 4:01 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu
I want to put a picture of a pregnant horse on a website using a Linksys
WVC200 webcam. The data sheet says it can work at 2 lux and it has an IR
filter (what does that do?) The vet says it's not a good idea to keep
the 10'x20' stall lit and the horse awake all night.
Amazon sells $50 low-power IR LED arrays, with mixed reviews.
Would a 100 W incandescent bulb run at low voltage work as well?
With some sort of IR filter (exposed film?) over the bulb?
So far, Linksys hasn't been helpful. When I asked on the phone about
spectral sensitivity, the Indian-accented person asked me what OS
I was using :-)
Nick
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 6:29 am
From: "JB"
<nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu> wrote in message
news:fncj3b$eto@acadia.ece.villanova.edu...
>I want to put a picture of a pregnant horse on a website using a Linksys
> WVC200 webcam. The data sheet says it can work at 2 lux and it has an IR
> filter (what does that do?) The vet says it's not a good idea to keep
> the 10'x20' stall lit and the horse awake all night.
>
> Amazon sells $50 low-power IR LED arrays, with mixed reviews.
> Would a 100 W incandescent bulb run at low voltage work as well?
> With some sort of IR filter (exposed film?) over the bulb?
>
> So far, Linksys hasn't been helpful. When I asked on the phone about
> spectral sensitivity, the Indian-accented person asked me what OS
> I was using :-)
>
Your webcam is not sensitive to IR due to the filter (usually built onto the
actual imaging sensor itself) so an IR illumination source would be no use.
Only monochrome CMOS or CCD cameras 'see' into the NIR where you could use
~800-900nm LEDs successfully for 'illuminaton'.
If you do actually need a colour camera, you typically need >2Lux of visible
illumination. If you can accept monochrome images, buy an appropriate mono
camera and use IR leds.
JB
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:54 am
From: mroberds@worldnet.att.net
F'up not set because I don't really know where this goes.
In sci.engr.lighting nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> I want to put a picture of a pregnant horse on a website using a
> Linksys WVC200 webcam.
I've played around just a little with webcams and IR LEDs and IMHO the
best way to figure out if a particular webcam will work is to try it and
see. If you guess right the first or second time it can be an
inexpensive way to get an IR camera; if not you end up paying a lot of
shipping charges or spending a lot of time at the store doing exchanges.
If you move up into cameras that are sold as security cameras,
especially black-and-white ones that are sold for low-light use, IMHO
your luck gets a lot better. On the other hand, these cameras are more
expensive, and they usually have just a composite video output, so you
will need a video capture card of some kind. If you can tolerate lower-
quality images, run the security camera to a standard TV monitor, and
point a webcam at the TV monitor. (If you are writing a grant, call
this a "single-conversion superheterodyne lightwave reciever" instead.
Sounds much more fundable than "pointing a webcam at a TV set". :) )
Another option might be a "board" camera. These don't have nice
packages but can be inexpensive.
http://gargravarr.cc.utexas.edu/owl/2006/box/ is an example (with specs
for the camera used) of using an IR camera and IR LEDs to observe
animals, albeit in a much smaller space than a horse stall. Again,
these will probably only have a composite video output, so you'll need
extra hardware to get the video signal into the computer.
> The vet says it's not a good idea to keep the 10'x20' stall lit and
> the horse awake all night.
Something to check is whether horses can see IR or not.
http://www.journalofvision.org/1/2/2/Carroll-2001-jov-1-2-2.pdf (linked
from http://www.journalofvision.org/1/2/2/ ) suggests they're not too
good at it, so using IR for light that's "invisible" to a horse may be
OK.
> Amazon sells $50 low-power IR LED arrays, with mixed reviews.
If you don't mind doing the work, you can probably make something just
as good with a fistful of IR LEDs and a power supply from Mouser or
Digi-Key. It might also be useful to spread the LEDs around the stall a
bit, instead of having them all in one place.
> Would a 100 W incandescent bulb run at low voltage work as well?
This is what was used in the paper linked to above. They had a fancy
tunable filter, though.
If you can accept a succession of still images, rather than video, using
a digital still camera might be another way to go. If you can find some
cameras old enough to be cheap, you might use more than one to get
different angles or shorter times between pictures. (This will be
easier to do with USB cameras but is probably possible with older
cameras that only had a serial port.) Googling finds
http://www.wrotniak.net/photo/infrared/ on using digital still cameras
in IR and there are probably many other sites.
Of course, all this stuff needs to get installed up high or behind glass
or otherwise protected from the horse. She might get annoyed and smash
the camera if she finds out she's not getting a cut of the click-throughs.
:)
Matt Roberds
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 4:19 am
From: George
Too_Many_Tools wrote:
>
> A suggestion....when you are handed the Mimi Me sandwich...point to
> the picture on the wall and tell that is what you ordered...and then
> demand you get what they advertixe.
>
> If more people did that, this sham would not continue.
>
> TMT
I always think of the movie "Falling Down" each time I see big box
restaurant advertising.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 4:25 am
From: George
Dave wrote:
>
> Thanks William, that may explain it. I think the new CEO hired a new
> advertising agency, one with absolutely no scruples,
>
> Dave
What surprises me is why you think this is new. Big box advertising
always paints a picture that is bigger than life. It works on the proven
theory that if you tell most people something enough times they believe
it. Can you think of any big box restaurant that resembles their
advertising?
Do you think you are in Italy when you go to olive garden? Or do you
imagine that tjfridays is your "neighborhood place"? or somehow even
imagine that aplebees (or whichever one claims it) is a "great American
restaurant"?
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 7:38 am
From: Logan Shaw
George wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> Thanks William, that may explain it. I think the new CEO hired a new
>> advertising agency, one with absolutely no scruples,
> Do you think you are in Italy when you go to olive garden? Or do you
> imagine that tjfridays is your "neighborhood place"? or somehow even
> imagine that aplebees (or whichever one claims it) is a "great American
> restaurant"?
Sort of on this subject, if you have not seen "Fast Food: Ads vs.
Reality", it's kinda amusing:
http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm
- Logan
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:37 am
From: George
Logan Shaw wrote:
> George wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>
>>> Thanks William, that may explain it. I think the new CEO hired a new
>>> advertising agency, one with absolutely no scruples,
>
>> Do you think you are in Italy when you go to olive garden? Or do you
>> imagine that tjfridays is your "neighborhood place"? or somehow even
>> imagine that aplebees (or whichever one claims it) is a "great
>> American restaurant"?
>
> Sort of on this subject, if you have not seen "Fast Food: Ads vs.
> Reality", it's kinda amusing:
>
>
http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm
>
> - Logan
The sad part is places that can't afford to buy mindshare as the big box
places can are overlooked or even looked down upon.
Take sandwiches for example. There is a mom & pop deli near me that
makes fantastic quality sandwiches and subs to order at reasonable
prices using great rolls from an Italian bakery and quality meats. They
also have a real soup of the day that they make not the thaw out a bag
of frozen industrial soup served at the big box place.
I often tell people about the place and usually get the deer in
headlight look because they haven't been programmed to go there.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:47 am
From: "Rod Speed"
George <george@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Logan Shaw wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>> Dave wrote:
>>
>>>> Thanks William, that may explain it. I think the new CEO hired a
>>>> new advertising agency, one with absolutely no scruples,
>>
>>> Do you think you are in Italy when you go to olive garden? Or do you
>>> imagine that tjfridays is your "neighborhood place"? or somehow even
>>> imagine that aplebees (or whichever one claims it) is a "great
>>> American restaurant"?
>>
>> Sort of on this subject, if you have not seen "Fast Food: Ads vs.
>> Reality", it's kinda amusing:
>>
>>
http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm
>>
>> - Logan
>
> The sad part is places that can't afford to buy mindshare as the big
> box places can are overlooked or even looked down upon.
>
> Take sandwiches for example. There is a mom & pop deli near me that
> makes fantastic quality sandwiches and subs to order at reasonable
> prices using great rolls from an Italian bakery and quality meats.
> They also have a real soup of the day that they make not the thaw out
> a bag of frozen industrial soup served at the big box place.
>
> I often tell people about the place and usually get the deer in
> headlight look because they haven't been programmed to go there.
Its more likely they are just considering your credibility and whether
its likely that you are accurately stating what the operation is like.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 4:32 am
From: Bubba
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:52:44 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spamblock##@hotmail.com> wrote:
>From what you've described, your inducer fan needs to be replaced. Gonna be
>a job for the service tech.
>
>Buy a portable heater?
Stormy,
Buy a brain. Yours isnt worth a shit.
Bubba
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 9:15 am
From: "Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator"
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:51:35 -0500, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> She said the small fan wasn't running.
Only in the beginning. Now both fans run continuously but the flame goes
out, likely because of a limit being reached.
Tomorrow the repairman arrives.
I'm amazed, on the entire net, I can't find a single photographic
description of how to maintain an Amana Air Command 80 gas-fired home
closet furnace.
This is shocking for home repairees.
Donna
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 5:19 am
From: Shawn Hirn
Here's an interesting story ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/business/08smoking.html
A company who is among the first employers to test its employees to see
if they smoke. Any nicotine addicts are fired. This policy bound to be
an increasing trend in light of the fact that smokers take more work
breaks and sick days then their non-smoking co-workers, so they get less
work done.
Smoke 'em if ya got 'em, but not if you want to keep your job there.
You smokers can't even complain. After all, its a private business and
we all know how you respect the right of private businesses to operate
as their management sees fit.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:35 am
From: "Dave"
"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-00552B.08192425012008@newsgroups.comcast.net...
> Here's an interesting story ...
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/business/08smoking.html
>
> A company who is among the first employers to test its employees to see
> if they smoke. Any nicotine addicts are fired.
I don't support this at all, but I do believe that smoking should be banned
in all public areas, both indoors AND outdoors. It does no good to ban
smoking indoors in public buildings such as restaurants, etc. That just
means that non-smokers have to walk through a thick wall of toxic fumes when
entering and exiting the building. -Dave
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 6:43 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 6:45 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:30 am
From: "rajat.bhatia1716@yahoo.co.in"
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Date: Fri, Jan 25 2008 8:52 am
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Anybody have a backlit with a RED backlight light waterproof keyboard?
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