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TOPIC: OT: Why I hate Geico ads
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 7:45 am
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <478d9daa$0$5209$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
TomAldrich@newshosting.com wrote:

> On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <DanielFCarey@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
>
> And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

What do you mean? Both Dish and Direct TV offer DVR service.
And for cable TV, the Motorola HD DVR does a very nice job.

-john-

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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 11:46 am
From: "Kim"

TomAldrich@newshosting.com wrote:
> On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <DanielFCarey@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
>
> And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

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* I got a sweater for Christmas. I really wanted a screamer or a
moaner.*

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 2:07 pm
From: ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)

In article <john-423A62.09455016012008@sn-radius.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote:
> In article <478d9daa$0$5209$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> TomAldrich@newshosting.com wrote:
>
> > On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <DanielFCarey@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
> >
> > And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.
>
> What do you mean? Both Dish and Direct TV offer DVR service.
> And for cable TV, the Motorola HD DVR does a very nice job.

For less than $200 and a spare computer, you can build your own.

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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 2:07 pm
From: ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar)

In article <Katjj.8076$s67.937@trndny05>,
Kim <darwinexceptiontakethisout@verizon.net> wrote:
> TomAldrich@newshosting.com wrote:
> > On 15-Jan-2008, Daniel Carey <DanielFCarey@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > TiVo, dude... TiVo.
> >
> > And for those of you with Satelite TV, it ain't gping to be TIVO soon.

Since it eventually goes to something which can be displayed on a TV,
you can use _some_ DVR, even if not a TiVo.

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http://royalty.mine.nu:81
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 8:20 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 9:56 am
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

On Jan 16, 1:38 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nope, there has been plenty of PM in the adjustment of interest rates
> as required and adding to liquidity when that has been a problem.

Do you think they (the banks, hedge funds, governments,etc.) even know
what the actual market value of anything is at this point? From what I
am reading, the unchecked electronic issuance of asset "value" is way
out of whack from any calculable expectation of what it should be. We
are talking about credit loans and the expectation of that credit
being paid off.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 10:46 am
From: "Rod Speed"

KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop <kwokx2@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop <kwokx2@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> do you think that we will have a global meltdown any day now for stock markets

>> Nope. The system is quite adequate at avoiding those now.

>>> or do you think that the US government is scrambling to prevent the
>>> machine from seizing up from lack of preventative maintenance?

>> Nope, there has been plenty of PM in the adjustment of interest rates
>> as required and adding to liquidity when that has been a problem.

> Do you think they (the banks, hedge funds, governments,etc.) even
> know what the actual market value of anything is at this point?

That isnt relevant to what they do except with the banks.

> From what I am reading, the unchecked electronic issuance of asset "value"
> is way out of whack from any calculable expectation of what it should be. We
> are talking about credit loans and the expectation of that credit being paid off.

Thats been the case for centurys and hasnt stopped the credit system working fine.

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TOPIC: Most Frugal and Practical Pickup Truck?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 10:27 am
From: "RAM³"

Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote in news:b41fb467-5caf-4ccd-
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> I am considering getting my next pickup truck...what is in your
> opinion the best candidate for a frugal and practical pickup truck?

One with a Diesel engine BUT expect to pay a premium price for one in good
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Before I bought mine [2003.5 Dodge/Cummins 1-ton] I checked around to see
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engines but everything else was "shot".

Obviously, the "answer" was to buy 2 trucks (1 gasser & 1 diesel) and
convert the gasser into a diesel. [An expensive option.]

If you're insistent upon a gasoline-engined truck, the Dodge RAM comes with
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 11:20 am
From: Ted

On Jan 16, 9:52 am, Righteous Dude <n...@hotmail.uk> wrote:
> Here are 14 reasons why the US has to cut benefits to senior citizens.
> "Snopes" is provided for any doubters. I hope the following reasons are
> forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the
> reader gets sick of reading them.
> I have included the URL's for verification of the following facts.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/bankofamerica.asp
>
> 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
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>
> 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
> such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
>
> 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal
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>
> 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
> education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
> English!http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
>
> 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
> American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>
> 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>
> 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
>
> 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
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> 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
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>
> 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's
> two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
> their
> children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the UShttp://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
>
> 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
> that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
> aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine,
> meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern
> border. Homeland Security Report:http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
>
> 12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of
> mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
> cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
>
> 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back
> to their countries of origin.http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
>
> 14. Nearly One Million Sex Crimes were Committed by Illegal Immigrants
> In The United States.http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
>
> The total cost is $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS per YEAR
>
> Deportation would be cheaper than maintenance or amnesty for illegals.

Does anyone still support the government in Washington, DC?

ted

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 12:31 pm
From: "news.earthlink.net"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 2:28 pm
From: Al Bundy

Terry Terry wrote:
> I have a Tracfone. I bought it for emergencies a month ago. The
> instructions say that the phone will withstand temperatures to -10C
> and will hold a charge for 10 days.
>
> They lie.
>
> Because I only use my phone for emergencies, I left my phone in my car
> for two nights. The temperature came near freezing, but did not drop
> to freezing.
>
> The phone battery died.
>
> I took it back. The girl at the counter said that all phones are like
> that. Don't leave the phone in the car. Is she telling the truth or
> should I insist on another phone?

Maybe the battery was bad or not fully charged. Since you only use it
for emergencies, presumably outgoing calls, why not remove or
disconnect the battery when not in use. It should keep it's charge for
weeks or months. I have a couple in a drawer here and I charge them
every 2-3 months, but they are still plenty live enough to make a call
even then. I am speaking about lithium-ion batteries. NI-CAD or NMH
won't hold a charge as long as they have a shorter shelf life.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 2:33 pm
From: "John Weiss"

"Too_Many_Tools" <too_many_tools@yahoo.com> wrote...
> Curious...as a frugal person what did you buy this Christmas?

Nothing.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 3:11 pm
From: prqview200@yahoo.com.tw

We've all heard the phrase, "no man is an island."

Well, baby, I'm an island.

I'm the closest thing to it.

I'm a rock.

And a rock feels no pain. And an island never cries.

Shielded in my armor. I've got my poetry to protect me.

I touch no one and no one touches me!

I think it's time maybe that I count the average number of times in a
day each day that I loudly and angrily say to myself, "get outta
here!"

I drive to work on Monday, and a guy who should yield pulls his car
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Get outta here!

I pull into a parking lot and at the only parking space left, someone
is standing there, talking to someone else.

Get outta here!

My neighbor, I derisively nicknamed him "Dutch boy"

He's an immigrant from Finland who talks with an accent. All he does
is walk his dog in front of my yard which sets my dog off barking.
Dutch boy is retired, worthless, so all he does is walk his dog, but
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Get outta here!

My other neighbor, I nicknamed "Gumdrop" (I have nicknames for all my
neighbors) was told by his doctor to walk each day. He wears a little
elf-like jogging

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 16 2008 3:13 pm
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

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