Saturday, January 5, 2008

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Today's topics:

* Bathroom Design and Remodeling, Designer Steam Rooms, Whirlpool Bathtubs - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ed65d10124932d79?hl=en
* Frugal house heating: better to keep the thermostat static night? - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/674ef4c9a7457ae9?hl=en
* golden supplier best service,lowest price (http://www.silkonroad.com) - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/76beb0183c5e326e?hl=en
* How do you cut your utility cost? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0f775dcaf5b9b909?hl=en

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TOPIC: Bathroom Design and Remodeling, Designer Steam Rooms, Whirlpool
Bathtubs
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ed65d10124932d79?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 10:06 pm
From: windowsyyy


Bathroom Design and Remodeling, Designer Steam Rooms, Whirlpool
Bathtubs
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TOPIC: Frugal house heating: better to keep the thermostat static night?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/674ef4c9a7457ae9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 10:09 pm
From: max


In article
<95a09070-9b83-4f4d-a58c-938605e7147b@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Joe <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote:

> At night I put my thermostat down to 62 degrees and my boiler (hot
> water heat) basically doesn't cycle at all from 10pm to 7:30am when I
> have it scheduled to heat the house back up to 66 degrees. Between
> 7:30am and 9am the boiler cycles about 5-6 times in order to heat the
> house back up to 66 degrees. My question: Is it better to just keep
> the thermostat at 66 degrees all night? Normally it would cycle once
> every 2 hours to maintain the temp - that would mean it would cycle a
> minimum of 4 times during the night instead of 5 or 6 in the morning.
> Anyone done any experimenting with this?

66 degrees will take more energy. I've made a picture to help illustrate
<http://www.flickr.com/photos/14094663@N04/2167437743/>

The "area under the curve" is the power, or gas used. In the picture
the 66 degree scheme is orange PLUS green. With 62 degrees, it's just
green.

Hopefully this will answer this question for all time. :-)

hth.

.max

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TOPIC: golden supplier best service,lowest price (http://www.silkonroad.com)
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Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 10:48 pm
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TOPIC: How do you cut your utility cost?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0f775dcaf5b9b909?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 4 2008 10:58 pm
From: Coffee's For Closers


In article <2bgrn3lbtk7a944supei4jv4jgdasovh7l@4ax.com>,
PaPaPeng@yahoo.com says...
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:32:57 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
> <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >you're probably just saving water, but not money. most water companies
> >charge per 1000 gallons or any part thereof. so, if you usually use 2000 a
> >month and cut back to 1001 gallons, you're still gonna pay for 2000. to
> >really see water use drop in this country, there should be a requirement
> >that you only pay for what you use, but that would probably entail changing
> >out all the water meters since i think they only compute in 1000 gal
> >increments.
>
>
> I always wondered about that. I try to save water by (4 gal) flushing
> it every third pee and it didn't make any diffrerence as when I
> flushed more often. I suppose the billing will even out over each
> billing cycle as the meter clocks up the next 1000 gallons. The same
> method would be used for electricty as I way away for 6 weeks and
> there was no difference in the bills.


The electric bills may alternate between a physical reading and
an estimate.

For example, my electric provider takes a physical meter reading
every two months, and sends a bill up to that exact amount. The
other, non-read months, are based on my average monthly usage
over time (at least a year, and maybe weighted to season.)
Theoretically, I could use zero power during that period, and
still be billed according to my real usage, say, last January.

A discrepancy like that would be compensated with the next
physical meter reading.

So, your bill that covered the absent period, might be an
estimated amount. I seem to recall reading of situations where
the bill was estimated each month for a long time, sometimes
getting further and further away from actual usage.


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