Saturday, March 1, 2008

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* How Will You All Adapt to $4.00 per gallon gasoline? - 9 messages, 9 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/27e47bb40833e110?hl=en
* ANYONE NEED CASH FOR THOSE NOTES? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9aeda6536e2df4ec?hl=en
* Credit Repairs - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9edff11dce8390c6?hl=en
* Times: Penniless pilgrim's walk to India falls foul of the French - 1
messages, 1 author
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* Grocery Costs - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Save Money by Swapping Stuff Online - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Stop war on Indo-Europeans - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: How Will You All Adapt to $4.00 per gallon gasoline?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/27e47bb40833e110?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 11:59 am
From: max


In article <Xns9A5476BDEFF0DSMH1960@207.115.33.102>,
SMH <smh@munged.address.com> wrote:

>
> When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been saying for
> weeks and to which one prominent politician has been completely oblivious,
> how will you adapt to it?
>
> Were you all pretty much expecting it?
>
> With bad economies, people tend to lose their jobs to layoffs! What plans
> do you have? Do you fear for your employment?

actually, i fear greatly for my job as they're going to lay off 10% of
my coworker (and nobody know's who's on the block, including me), but it
has less to do directly with the current economic situation and more to
do with the US' general retreat from science, research and development
and academic or intellectual excellence.

in fact, i'm on furlough now (no work, no pay, no vacation $).

.max

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== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 1:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


SMH <smh@munged.address.com> wrote:

> When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been
> saying for weeks and to which one prominent politician has
> been completely oblivious, how will you adapt to it?

Wont change at all, just keep using the economical car just like I do now.

> Were you all pretty much expecting it?

That its likely to increase over time, yes.

> With bad economies, people tend to lose their jobs to layoffs!

Have fun explaining how the unemployment rate has stayed at 4.x%

> What plans do you have?

Like I said, dont plan to do anything different.

> Do you fear for your employment?

Nope.


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:00 pm
From: Samantha Hill - take out TRASH to reply


SMH wrote:
> When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been saying for
> weeks and to which one prominent politician has been completely oblivious,
> how will you adapt to it?

I use less than 5 gallons of gas a week, so it's not going to bother me
that much.

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:12 pm
From: val189


A tank lasts me about 5 weeks, so I'm not sweating it too much. I'm
getting about 32 city, 39 highway. However, a long road trip is
probably going to be canceled -

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:39 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)


In article <Xns9A5476BDEFF0DSMH1960@207.115.33.102>,
SMH <smh@munged.address.com> wrote:

>When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been saying for
>weeks and to which one prominent politician has been completely oblivious,
>how will you adapt to it?

I live 3.3 miles from work. It's not a big concern for me.

>Were you all pretty much expecting it?

Everytime Gulfstream opens another production facility, the price goes up
to cover all the new jets the corporate management orders.

>With bad economies, people tend to lose their jobs to layoffs! What plans
>do you have? Do you fear for your employment?

No worries; the network will still need to be administered.


Gary

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== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:59 pm
From: Al Bundy


On Mar 1, 2:40 pm, SMH <s...@munged.address.com> wrote:
> When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been saying for
> weeks and to which one prominent politician has been completely oblivious,
> how will you adapt to it?
>
> Were you all pretty much expecting it?
>
> With bad economies, people tend to lose their jobs to layoffs! What plans
> do you have? Do you fear for your employment?

I spend less on gas now than when it was $2. I cut out driving by
consolidating trips, biking and walking. The bonus of saving on
maintenance has been quite noticeable too. It would be hard to go back
to the old ways. I believe if others conserved, the demand would be
reduced enough to help prices. That's not going to happen where I live
at least. My neighbors keep spending like there is no tomorrow.
Escalades and Denalis are everywhere. When I drove my old former car
to pick up the kids at school, the security guard came over to check
me out. He thought I was from the really big city to the east. No
poverty in these parts (locally).

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 7:34 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <Xns9A5476BDEFF0DSMH1960@207.115.33.102>,
SMH <smh@munged.address.com> wrote:

> When gasoline hits $4 per gallon as all the experts have been saying for
> weeks and to which one prominent politician has been completely oblivious,
> how will you adapt to it?
>
> Were you all pretty much expecting it?
>
> With bad economies, people tend to lose their jobs to layoffs! What plans
> do you have? Do you fear for your employment?

The security of my job is not dependent on the price of gas and I drive
a Prius which averages around 40MPG. Only a fool didn't expect gas
prices to climb. After all, the oil industry has a puppet doing their
bidding in the White House.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 8:19 pm
From: "Dave"


> a Prius which averages around 40MPG. Only a fool didn't expect gas
> prices to climb. After all, the oil industry has a puppet doing their
> bidding in the White House.

You saying the puppet in the white house is billions of years old? Or
perhaps you think he's got a time machine? That puppet in the white house
has no control over the dwindling supply of a non-renewable asset,
oron. -Dave

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 8:45 pm
From: George Grapman


Dave wrote:
>> a Prius which averages around 40MPG. Only a fool didn't expect gas
>> prices to climb. After all, the oil industry has a puppet doing their
>> bidding in the White House.
>
> You saying the puppet in the white house is billions of years old? Or
> perhaps you think he's got a time machine? That puppet in the white
> house has no control over the dwindling supply of a non-renewable asset,
> oron. -Dave
No, but he could jawbone OPEC to lower prices.


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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 2:12 pm
From: clams_casino


George Grapman wrote:

> Here is some better information:
>
>
> http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/repair.shtm
>
>
>

There's much in the news about home owner's walking away from their
homes. Are they filing for bankruptcy or just refusing to make any
more payments? Can't the bank go after them in a few years? Is there
some type of limitation for a bank (or other lender) to collect?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 3:56 pm
From: George Grapman


clams_casino wrote:
> George Grapman wrote:
>
>> Here is some better information:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/repair.shtm
>>
>>
>>
>
> There's much in the news about home owner's walking away from their
> homes. Are they filing for bankruptcy or just refusing to make any
> more payments? Can't the bank go after them in a few years? Is there
> some type of limitation for a bank (or other lender) to collect?
My understanding is that unless you file for bankruptcy or they wait
too long to sue they can keep dunning you. After 7 years a bad debt
vanishes from your credit file but they can still pursue it.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:35 pm
From: clams_casino


George Grapman wrote:

> clams_casino wrote:
>
>> George Grapman wrote:
>>
>>> Here is some better information:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/repair.shtm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There's much in the news about home owner's walking away from their
>> homes. Are they filing for bankruptcy or just refusing to make
>> any more payments? Can't the bank go after them in a few years?
>> Is there some type of limitation for a bank (or other lender) to
>> collect?
>
> My understanding is that unless you file for bankruptcy or they wait
> too long to sue they can keep dunning you. After 7 years a bad debt
> vanishes from your credit file but they can still pursue it.

So what's the advantage of walking from a mortgage? I've heard of
houses being vandalized into destruction and/or being resold for a
fraction of what they are worth leaving the original owner even more
behind in what they owe the lender. Walking seems like a no win
situation. Best may be to stay until evicted.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 4:56 pm
From: George Grapman


clams_casino wrote:
> George Grapman wrote:
>
>> clams_casino wrote:
>>
>>> George Grapman wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is some better information:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/credit/repair.shtm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's much in the news about home owner's walking away from their
>>> homes. Are they filing for bankruptcy or just refusing to make
>>> any more payments? Can't the bank go after them in a few years?
>>> Is there some type of limitation for a bank (or other lender) to
>>> collect?
>>
>> My understanding is that unless you file for bankruptcy or they wait
>> too long to sue they can keep dunning you. After 7 years a bad debt
>> vanishes from your credit file but they can still pursue it.
>
>
>
> So what's the advantage of walking from a mortgage? I've heard of
> houses being vandalized into destruction and/or being resold for a
> fraction of what they are worth leaving the original owner even more
> behind in what they owe the lender. Walking seems like a no win
> situation. Best may be to stay until evicted.

My guess is the same reason some renter move when they get an
eviction notice. They figure they have to leave and better to do it on
their schedule than on the banks.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 2:13 pm
From: Ishtar


Go easy on him. He's on a learning curve.

Replacing money with barter is hardly going to change anything much.

It goes much deeper than that.

There are ten *Forbidden Subjects* which nobody will touch.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 2:15 pm
From: clams_casino


val189 wrote:

>
>Don't forget to figure in your eating out costs. Have your dining out
>habits changed?
>Or have you added any pets to the family? More entertaining?
>
>

Actually, the cost of sunflower seeds went up from about $14 / 50 lbs
last year to $22 this year, although that does not get included in our
grocery costs.


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 3:40 pm
From: Phil


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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 3:47 pm
From: clams_casino


Phil wrote:

>Save some money by trading or swapping your stuff with other people
>online. It has Ebay-like features and many categories to swap from.
>
>
>


Cool. Under top five members, it lists three members.

Not too popular, is it?

Or is that why you continue to spam this onto numerous newsgroups?


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 5:11 pm
From: haber14@lycos.com


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APpRES2wcWA&feature=related

Watch and think.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 5:33 pm
From: Al Bundy


On Feb 29, 5:16 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> oligo...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Looking for ways to save money on your wedding?
>
> You do realize eBay may cancel your account if they receive a few
> complaints of your spamming newsgroups which is against eBay rules.

She probably does, but she only has this one used dress, size 4
(supposedly) to unload. That's the last time she would ever see a size
four without another digit in front of it anyway. She's willing to
take the chance on what they used to call in marketing school, "The
bigger fool theory."


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Mar 1 2008 7:44 pm
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