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* Antihistamine nasal spray over the counter? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* How much is your electric bill? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Antihistamine nasal spray over the counter?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/adc29ba237b92133?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 7:35 am
From: "Chloe"
"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:47e06a6d$0$1126$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Chloe wrote:
>> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>> news:J-edneLVKpgkKkPanZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> me@privacy.net wrote:
>>>> Have and advice on one?
>>>>
>>>> I have a cold or something and my nose is running like
>>>> a water faucet. Normally when that happens it drips
>>>> down back of my throats and cause chest infection
>>>>
>>> I have the same problem, mine is caused by mold allergies. I have found
>>> great relief with sinus buster products. Not exactly frugal, but cheaper
>>> than the regular visits to the allergist.
>>
>> Most any kind of sinus problem can be helped at least a bit by regular
>> use of a neti pot. Google if you don't know what it is.
>
> This seems like it would help a lot with congestion but wouldn't
> help at all with a runny nose.
It won't immediately stop the drainage, but in my experience (and that of a
lot of other people I've known) after even a few days regular use it will
address the underlying problem that's causing the drainage, which is
irritation of the sinus tissues from things like allergens, other foreign
substances, or infection.
Picture a patch on your external skin where some substance is causing
irritation. Just about everybody knows to wash the substance off or remove
it in some way. The principle behind use of the neti pot is the same.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:17 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Chloe <justsayno@spam.com> wrote
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote
>> Chloe wrote
>>> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote
>>>> me@privacy.net wrote
>>>>> Have and advice on one?
>>>>> I have a cold or something and my nose is running like
>>>>> a water faucet. Normally when that happens it drips
>>>>> down back of my throats and cause chest infection
>>>> I have the same problem, mine is caused by mold allergies. I have found great relief with sinus buster products.
>>>> Not exactly frugal, but cheaper than the regular visits to the allergist.
>>> Most any kind of sinus problem can be helped at least a bit by
>>> regular use of a neti pot. Google if you don't know what it is.
>> This seems like it would help a lot with congestion but wouldn't help at all with a runny nose.
> It won't immediately stop the drainage, but in my experience (and that of a lot of other people I've known) after even
> a few days regular use it will address the underlying problem that's causing the drainage, which is irritation of the
> sinus tissues from things like allergens, other foreign substances, or infection.
Wont do a damned thing for an infection.
> Picture a patch on your external skin where some substance is causing
> irritation. Just about everybody knows to wash the substance off or
> remove it in some way. The principle behind use of the neti pot is the same.
Like hell it is if he's just got a cold.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 9:30 am
From: George Grapman
I used to take generic Sudafed at least several times a year and
often several times a day. Last year I went to an acupuncturist . I seem
him about every three month and have not taken a single Sudafed.
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TOPIC: How much is your electric bill?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:52 am
From: " P.O.W."
In article
<c100f473-7d77-4156-b148-dc699521d49f@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No place to put insulation without a LOT of trouble.
actually you don't "need" insulation if you heat with Radiant heating.
It works the same way the Sun heats the earth.,
The air is not heated, objects are warmed by Radiation.
Hint; the source of the heat must be in the space. not in the basement.
--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
problems tend to look like nails.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:54 am
From: Jeff
P.O.W. wrote:
> In article
> <c100f473-7d77-4156-b148-dc699521d49f@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> No place to put insulation without a LOT of trouble.
>
> actually you don't "need" insulation if you heat with Radiant heating.
>
> It works the same way the Sun heats the earth.,
> The air is not heated, objects are warmed by Radiation.
>
> Hint; the source of the heat must be in the space. not in the basement.
>
Heat is transmitted via three methods.
1) Radiation: By being near something warm
2) Conduction: Insulation slows conduction losses
3) Convection: Air circulation currents convect heat
Now, if you are outside and sitting by a fire, then you are being
heated by radiation.
The problem with that is that only one side is being warmed. Inside a
house radiant heat heats all the objects inside the room including the
walls. Those objects in turn warm (or cool) the house occupants, just as
a radiator does. The temperature of a radiant floor is just a few
degrees warmer than the rest of the environment because the surface area
is large. Now, if you have cold walls, then you will feel those just as
surely as you feel the warmth from the floor.
Radiant heat works better in drafty and poorly insulated spaces, but
it does not mean that you wouldn't be more comfortable in a better
insulated space and that your heat bill would be lower.
Radiant heat (from broad area sources) is more comfortable than what
some people refer to as scorched air heating.
Jeff
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TOPIC: Question about car early payoff
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:24 am
From: Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:30:39 -0400 somebody <some@body.com> wrote:
:>I only have 5 months to pay on my car. At that point, I plan to trade it
:>in on a new car.
Why do you want/need a new car?
Why is the decision predicated on when your current car will be paid off?
:> I'm thinking that instead of going through the hassle of
:>completely paying it off, and going through the hassle of obtaining the
:>title, I'll just trade it in with a month or two remaining. Does that
:>sound reasonable?
I would expect that most car dealerships know how to handle such a
transaction.
But the earlier questions stand.
--
Binyamin Dissen <bdissen@dissensoftware.com>
http://www.dissensoftware.com
Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me,
you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain.
I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems,
especially those from irresponsible companies.
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TOPIC: Saving Money on Drugs (Free Samples Aren't Really Free)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 19 2008 8:24 am
From: Al Bundy
On Mar 18, 4:36 pm, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> Al Bundy wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 4:42 pm, "Evelyn C. Leeper" <elee...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >> We all know that generic drugs are cheaper than brand-name. And we all
> >> think that getting free samples from the doctor is cheaper yet. But it
> >> isn't.
>
> >> The samples that the doctors get to give out are pretty much only for
> >> those drugs that have no generics. So if you are diagnosed with
> >> condition X that requires a maintenance drug, and the doctor says,
> >> "Let's try drug Q; here's a month's worth of free samples," what happens
> >> at the end of the month? If drug Q works, he or she will prescribe drug
> >> Q--and it's available only as a name-brand. (That's why the drug
> >> company gives out the samples.)
>
> >> On the other hand, if you say up front that you want to try a generic
> >> first, you will have to pay for the first month's supply. but if it
> >> works, the on-going prescription will be for the (much cheaper) generic.
>
> >> --
> >> Evelyn C. Leeper
> >> Heretic: someone who disagrees with you about
> >> something neither of you knows anything about.
>
> > True enough, but not always possible. The new drug may offer symptom
> > control not proven with the generic. In other cases you might switch
> > to a generic of the same class if the free one worked. Of course, who
> > is not resistant to changing something that works. That's the way
> > marketing works. And if the new drug doesn't help, you spent nothing.
> > For routine stuff like infections, reflux, and high BP, generics often
> > prove as effective.
>
> Well, yes, sometimes one needs the new drug. But my point was that if
> you have something requiring a maintenance drug, starting with something
> with no available generic will just mean continuing with that brand
> name, even though the first month is free. Assuming the doctor has no
> specific reason to prescribe something *other* than a generic, most
> people will be better off starting with a generic.
>
>
I'd always start by asking for the generic and let the discussion go
from there. Then you have it covered.
Your point involved "maintenance" drugs. If you get to the point of
needing something on an ongoing basis, chances are you have gone
through a period of testing various things for efficacy.
For people who are insured, the drug policy tends to take care of this
issue in the first place by specifying generic.
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