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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 9:27 am
From: "DGDevin"

Chloe wrote:

> Terminix nationally doesn't exactly have a great track record in
> terms of running an honest business. Plenty of people have had their
> houses munched by termites when the mixture of powdered milk and
> water Terminix used to spray around their houses didn't turn out to
> be all that effective <g>. Check with your state's attorney general
> office or department of agriculture before you do business with them.

Our favorite contractor has a generally dim view of the termite industry,
he's seen too many shady local franchisees who are better at high-pressure
sales than they are at killing bugs. This is one of those areas where lots
and lots of research is called for before signing on the dotted line.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 10:10 am
From: gpsman

On Apr 18, 4:02 pm, "Chloe" <justsa...@spam.com> wrote:
> "cshenk" <cshe...@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:gI4Oj.51611$QC.12484@newsfe20.lga...
>
>
>
> > "Walter Cohen" wrote
>
> >> I'm trying to determine which company has the better, more effective
> >> termite baiting system (and ultimately elimination of the colony).
>
> > Check the longevity of the chemical closely. This is the key.
>
> > I use Orkin here. The terminex stuff lasts at best a year and the
> > franchise in my local area is not reliable. (This is not a total slam on
> > terminex as i gather in some areas they are quite good and even in our
> > area they are better than Orkin with some types of pests, just not
> > termites).
>
> > I have had several 'treatments' done in the past 10 years. One was by
> > terminex only 4 years ago and came back to the USA to find live termites
> > eating out a baseboard. I got the orkin contract and am covered for all
> > damage now after an extensive inspection to determine how much damage we
> > already had (thank the lord, just the basebord!). Yes, it costs money but
> > we are paying off treatment for an active infestation. Once that drops
> > off, we need only pay about 200$ a year for what is basically insurance
> > coverage for any damages and quarterly inspections. When the chemicals
> > start to fail, they reseed for free.
>
> Terminix nationally doesn't exactly have a great track record in terms of
> running an honest business. Plenty of people have had their houses munched
> by termites when the mixture of powdered milk and water Terminix used to
> spray around their houses didn't turn out to be all that effective <g>.
> Check with your state's attorney general office or department of agriculture
> before you do business with them.

Or just Google.

Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
pissed off enough to actually file suit.

Among many "real" professional Pest Control Operators they're both
considered a blight on the industry (which is not to say that neither
has a small percentage of true "professionals").

It's a tough business in which to compete when the homeowner has
difficulty determining who is a shyster and who is not.
-----

- gpsman

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 10:32 am
From: dpb

gpsman wrote:
...
> Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
> pissed off enough to actually file suit.
...

That's easily explained simply by the fact the two are by far the
largest companies in the field: simply more opportunities.

As a secondary cause, most local companies won't make anything more than
local news even if they are no better in service or follow up or
warranty work than the national firms in their area so google results
will be grossly distorted by that as well.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 11:14 am
From: gpsman

On Apr 19, 1:32 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> gpsman wrote:
>
> ...> Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
> > pissed off enough to actually file suit.
>
> That's easily explained simply by the fact the two are by far the
> largest companies in the field: simply more opportunities.

Of course, but that explanation is a little too simple.

> As a secondary cause, most local companies won't make anything more than
> local news even if they are no better in service or follow up or
> warranty work than the national firms in their area so google results
> will be grossly distorted by that as well.

Or, they settle up and/or satisfy their clients.

A large national with oodles of advertising budget can write off
clients assuming they will simply usually swap dissatisfied clients
with the "other" national company.

(This is a common technique known and employed employed by fast food
restaurants. Sure their dining room is filthy, and their service is
slow, but they all (generally) are. If you don't come back to BK,
someone will abandon Wendy's on the same premise.)

IME with termites, many homeowners tried both national companies
before I got the call. Most, as in way more than half, had no
evidence of termites.

Evaluated individually as wholes, both companies consist of a great
many shysters.
-----

- gpsman

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 11:20 am
From: dpb

gpsman wrote:
> On Apr 19, 1:32 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
>> gpsman wrote:
>>
>> ...> Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
>>> pissed off enough to actually file suit.
>> That's easily explained simply by the fact the two are by far the
>> largest companies in the field: simply more opportunities.
>
> Of course, but that explanation is a little too simple.

No simpler than your previous statement (as presented)...

>> As a secondary cause, most local companies won't make anything more than
>> local news even if they are no better in service or follow up or
>> warranty work than the national firms in their area so google results
>> will be grossly distorted by that as well.
>
> Or, they settle up and/or satisfy their clients.

But they simply won't show up on google in any profusion because there
are a comparatively miniscule number of searchers for any local company
regardless of how bad they might be.

Hence, it is an erroneous conclusion that because the two major
companies have the bulk of the complaints on a google search the others
are _necessarily_ better.

It's simply a misuse of the statistics.

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 11:38 am
From: gpsman

On Apr 19, 2:20 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> gpsman wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 1:32 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
> >> gpsman wrote:
>
> >> ...> Terminix and Orkin produce the majority of pest control customers
> >>> pissed off enough to actually file suit.
> >> That's easily explained simply by the fact the two are by far the
> >> largest companies in the field: simply more opportunities.
>
> > Of course, but that explanation is a little too simple.
>
> No simpler than your previous statement (as presented)...
>
> >> As a secondary cause, most local companies won't make anything more than
> >> local news even if they are no better in service or follow up or
> >> warranty work than the national firms in their area so google results
> >> will be grossly distorted by that as well.
>
> > Or, they settle up and/or satisfy their clients.
>
> But they simply won't show up on google in any profusion because there
> are a comparatively miniscule number of searchers for any local company
> regardless of how bad they might be.
>
> Hence, it is an erroneous conclusion that because the two major
> companies have the bulk of the complaints on a google search the others
> are _necessarily_ better.
>
> It's simply a misuse of the statistics.

Agreed, but I would point to their use of "contracts" as evidence they
are less inclined to satisfy their clients, and their unnecessary
service intervals as evidence they are better at generating income
than performing effective services.

But, they made me a ton o' money...
-----

- gpsman

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 12:10 pm
From: dpb

gpsman wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2:20 pm, dpb <n...@non.net> wrote:
...
>> Hence, it is an erroneous conclusion that because the two major
>> companies have the bulk of the complaints on a google search the others
>> are _necessarily_ better.
>>
>> It's simply a misuse of the statistics.
>
> Agreed, ...

That's the only point I was making...

Nothing else is derivable from the data posited.

I'm not attacking you or any other local exterminator nor defending the
Big Two; simply pointing out to draw a conclusion you wished others to
make from your previous post is simply not warranted.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 12:20 pm
From: tcampbell@campbelllitigation.com

You might want to look at my web page before deciding what to do.
None of these systems do anything to "bait" a termite like a worm
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In <20080419090558.2d6cc983@vector>, §ñühw?£f
snuhwolf@netscape.net said:
>On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:52:08 +1000
>"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "§ñühw?£f" <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:20080418091607.7e1bb447@vector...
>> >
>> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:03:30 +1000
>> > "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:66prb2F2kplh3U1@mid.individual.net...
>> >>
>> >> > johngood_____ <void@voidacious.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> At the moment I'm with virgin net 'plan2' ( 'not' on the new cable)
>> >> >> and have learnt recently from virgin that my =A317.99 a month package,
>> >> >> was capped at 2MB data stream and that I could be switched to 5MB IP
>> >> >> stream for the same money I'm paying them. So I asked them to upgrade
>> >> >> me to the faster IP system and Virgin told me to wait 10 days or so
>> >> >> for the system to pick up speed.
>> >> >
>> >> >> It's now three weeks and I've just done a line test with
>> >> >> www.speedtest.net which tells me that my download speed is 1001 kb/s.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thats a pretty useless<BITCHSLAP>
>> >>
>> >> Hello, Woddleypoo. I have a usenet k0oK award marked out with your name
>> >> on it. The name of the award has the word "COWARD" in it.
>> >>
>> >> Are you going to come out and play with the nasty Kadaitcha Man? Or are
>> >> you going to run away and hide like you always do when I decide to give
>> >> you a taste of your own medicine? Hmmm?
>> >>
>> >
>> > No everone unnerstans yer shtick :)
>> > You prolly intimadates a few of em...
>> >
>> > Speed test is preetty much crap tho sence the ISPs somtiems cache it loco
>> > :)
>>
>> Rod Speed takes delight in being grossly offensive to those he believes are
>> weaker than himself, yet he flat refuses to engage with yours truly. Without
>> fail, he runs and hides. He is a first order coward.
>>
>I've been in newsfroups full of Sensitive Types.
>If you disagree with them in the slightest they plonk you and announce it often.

PLONK!

>> > So you *always* get a "good" reading.
>> > Might wanna use ping or somthing.
>>
>> I only intend to bitchslap the cunt from here to kingdom come with mere
>> metaphor. Him being shown up as a cowardly bully can't be that painful, can
>> it?
>>
>So he's a drive-by flamer?
>Yeah, them type is pussies.
>
>--
>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/18/collins-iraq-debacle/
>

--
Kali

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 19 2008 12:01 pm
From: Art Deco

Kali <kali@powder.keg> wrote:
>In <20080419090558.2d6cc983@vector>, §ñühw?£f
>snuhwolf@netscape.net said:
>>On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:52:08 +1000
>>"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "§ñühw?£f" <snuhwolf@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>> news:20080418091607.7e1bb447@vector...
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:03:30 +1000
>>> > "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:66prb2F2kplh3U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> >>
>>> >> > johngood_____ <void@voidacious.net> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> At the moment I'm with virgin net 'plan2' ( 'not' on the new cable)
>>> >> >> and have learnt recently from virgin that my =A317.99 a month package,
>>> >> >> was capped at 2MB data stream and that I could be switched to 5MB IP
>>> >> >> stream for the same money I'm paying them. So I asked them to upgrade
>>> >> >> me to the faster IP system and Virgin told me to wait 10 days or so
>>> >> >> for the system to pick up speed.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> It's now three weeks and I've just done a line test with
>>> >> >> www.speedtest.net which tells me that my download speed is 1001 kb/s.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thats a pretty useless<BITCHSLAP>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello, Woddleypoo. I have a usenet k0oK award marked out with your name
>>> >> on it. The name of the award has the word "COWARD" in it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Are you going to come out and play with the nasty Kadaitcha Man? Or are
>>> >> you going to run away and hide like you always do when I decide to give
>>> >> you a taste of your own medicine? Hmmm?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > No everone unnerstans yer shtick :)
>>> > You prolly intimadates a few of em...
>>> >
>>> > Speed test is preetty much crap tho sence the ISPs somtiems cache it loco
>>> > :)
>>>
>>> Rod Speed takes delight in being grossly offensive to those he believes are
>>> weaker than himself, yet he flat refuses to engage with yours truly.
>>> Without
>>> fail, he runs and hides. He is a first order coward.
>>>
>>I've been in newsfroups full of Sensitive Types.
>>If you disagree with them in the slightest they plonk you and announce it
>>often.
>
>PLONK!

No way, I *PLONK* you first.
>
>>> > So you *always* get a "good" reading.
>>> > Might wanna use ping or somthing.
>>>
>>> I only intend to bitchslap the cunt from here to kingdom come with mere
>>> metaphor. Him being shown up as a cowardly bully can't be that painful, can
>>> it?
>>>
>>So he's a drive-by flamer?
>>Yeah, them type is pussies.
>>
>>--
>>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/18/collins-iraq-debacle/
>>

--
"Classic erroneous presupposition."
-- David Tholen

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From: Emil Tiades

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