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TOPIC: Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters and
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 12:03 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:b29e041p90oikgrb7l3suc5sm3uss2e69r@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:16:53 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>news:iteb04psg7i00pde3a7kdproabkfelh12f@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage
>>>>> to
>>>>> your truck.
>>>>
>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>children
>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>
>>> Your missing your meds, right?
>>
>>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like you
>>are!
>
> What song is that? Got the lyrics?
>>
>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
>>you better.
>
> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
> Greeter wages?

Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health. What
good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
like you.

>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>>aka
>>>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 12:11 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
news:ujme04tq94c9sj52uc3vgac3ksenk2h41c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:55:57 -0800, pyotr filipivich
> <phamp@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>[Default] I missed the Staff Meeting but the Minutes record that
>>Gunner <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> reported Elvis on Wed, 16 Apr
>>2008 01:41:28 -0700 in misc.survivalism :
>>>On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:02:27 -0500, Tom Sherman
>>><sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>
>>>>Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage to
>>>>your truck.
>>>
>>>Bad Kharma and the wailing of the next of kin can be irritating.
>>
>> The Cosmic Damage is often worse than the Cosmetic.
>>
>>pyotr
>
>
> Indeed.
>
> Gunner

Just a couple of assholes who are into poking one another. How the hell did
these two numskulls ever end up on ARBR? I attribute it all to that idiot
cyclist from Florida who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground. He
is all blather and nonsense - and is crazy as a loon besides. Fuck him and
all his shit I say!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:11 pm
From: Bob Brock

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:03:04 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote:

>
>"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>news:b29e041p90oikgrb7l3suc5sm3uss2e69r@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:16:53 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gunner" <gunner@NOSPAM.lightspeed.net> wrote in message
>>>news:iteb04psg7i00pde3a7kdproabkfelh12f@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:36:28 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:fu3mnk$254$2@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>>> Gunner Asch wrote:
>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> Its gonna be hard for me to ride one of my bikes..yes I do also ride
>>>>>>> bicycles...to work every day with the 900 lbs of tools, welders and
>>>>>>> parts that I drag around for the average 135 miles per day that I
>>>>>>> drive. [...]
>>>>>>> my two biggest fears when driving are kids chasing a ball across the
>>>>>>> roadway,[...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? Children are hardly large enough to do more than cosmetic damage
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> your truck.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, he loves his god damn fucking truck more than he cares about
>>>>>children
>>>>>as befits any self-respecting truck driver. Yea, macho man!
>>>>
>>>> Your missing your meds, right?
>>>
>>>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like you
>>>are!
>>
>> What song is that? Got the lyrics?
>>>
>>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to suit
>>>you better.
>>
>> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>> Greeter wages?
>
>Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health. What
>good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
>But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
>truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
>getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
>like you.
>

Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.

>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>>>aka
>>>>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:29 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Bob Brock" <bbrock@i-americia.net> wrote in message
news:2kbf04dl7pd612neuu0ddju2jtd05m8l2r@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:03:04 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
[...]
>>>>I am not driving a god damn fucking truck with murder in my heart like
>>>>you
>>>>are!

Gunner wrote:

>>> What song is that? Got the lyrics?
>>>>
>>>>Hey, why not get a real job like clerking at Wal-Mart? That ought to
>>>>suit
>>>>you better.
>>>
>>> When I make $75 an hour, why should I downgrade myself to your
>>> Greeter wages?
>>
>>Because driving a god damn fucking truck is bad for your mental health.
>>What
>>good does it do to steal that much per hour when you have lost your soul.
>>But maybe you will hit and kill (murder) a kid with your god damn fucking
>>truck and end your days in a state prison where, I assure you, you will be
>>getting more like 75 cents per hour. Even that is too much for an asshole
>>like you.
>>
>
> Gunner doesn't drive a truck. He works on machines when he isn't
> telling lies that is. He just drives his pickup truck to work.

Even so he has the trucker mentality. He needs to ride a bicycle instead.
Maybe then he would get his head screwed on straight.

>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>>>>>aka
>>>>>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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TOPIC: Dental question, a bridge costs
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 2:03 pm
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu

Frank <noreplay@nothome.net> wrote:

>... Had two implants done last year, turn out it would be cheaper to take
>a vacation to Germany and have it done their. Mexico would be fine if you
>know who does a good job from the one who could butcher your mouth.

How do you go about finding a good implanter in Europe?

Nick

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:49 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Apr 17, 7:58 am, "Chloe" <justsa...@spam.com> wrote:
> <hchick...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:l1se04puq8furaemadv0pdf61f9e3fs3h5@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:43:15 -0700, veteran
> > <georgewks...@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>
> >>I need to replace a bridge, or is it called a partial.
> >>But , the dentist who first made it really wants too much money this
> >>time.
> >> How does one get better prices or at least ball park estimates?
> >>And where?
>
> > Mexico. Seriously. Over the past 20 years the cost of most dentistry
> > in the U.S. has skyrocketed.
>
> Transportation costs are skyrocketing, too. Are you suggesting it would be
> cheaper on balance to travel to Mexico for a single bridge than to have it
> done in the U.S.?
>
> My only thought (other than to shop around and compare prices) is to talk to
> the closest dental schools. You'd probably still have to pay full price for
> the bridge itself, but you might save a little on the labor involved in
> putting it in.
>
> As an aside, a cautionary tale for people who avoid regular teeth cleaning
> and checkups by a dentist: for about 20 years 62-year-old DH convinced
> himself he was doing just fine taking care of his teeth on his own. Indeed,
> he didn't seem to have much in the way of tartar buildup or gum problems,
> and he wasn't aware of any cavities. Eventually a couple of teeth became so
> painful he had to break down and go. Turns out a bunch of his old fillings
> had failed, he had some serious infections, needed a number of crowns, and
> ended up with a $10K bill. We did a little bit of price comparing, and the
> charges were routine for our area.
>
> Ouch.

Wouldn't it have been cheaper to pull those teeth and get some
choppers?? :-B

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:50 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Apr 17, 2:03 pm, nicksans...@ece.villanova.edu wrote:
> Frank <norep...@nothome.net> wrote:
> >... Had two implants done last year, turn out it would be cheaper to take
> >a vacation to Germany and have it done their. Mexico would be fine if you
> >know who does a good job from the one who could butcher your mouth.
>
> How do you go about finding a good implanter in Europe?
>
> Nick

I was going to ask the same thing. I wouldn't mind ditching this
stupid partial for an impant :)

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Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:08 pm
From: Winston_Smith

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TOPIC: download films on Waitrose, Zen or 'be'
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:25 pm
From: "johngood_____"

At the moment I'm with virgin net 'plan2' ( 'not' on the new cable) and have
learnt recently from virgin that my £17.99 a month package, was capped at
2MB data stream and that I could be switched to 5MB IP stream for the same
money I'm paying them. So I asked them to upgrade me to the faster IP system
and Virgin told me to wait 10 days or so for the system to pick up speed.

It's now three weeks and I've just done a line test with www.speedtest.net
which tells me that my download speed is 1001 kb/s. That's at 2045hours this
evening.

I use the internet myself mainly just for web browsing and emailing, but my
son upstairs uses his pc for constantly downloading films. (we're talking 24
hours a day downloading). I thought that his using the pc like this might
put him
and me into the special 'heavy users' catagory. I have tried to understand
virgin's traffic management policy, but cannot. Could I be getting such
slow
download speeds because of my sons usage? Although when I got the speedtest
result this evening he was not downloading anything and he has not done so
for a couple of days.

When I looked at the ' Which ' magazine online they recommend Zen and
Waitrose broadband. The waitrose capps at 5GB a month and one of the Zen
packages at 2GB a month. Would anyone be able to guess roughly for me;
what my son's perpetual film downloads would clock up every month, so I
might know which of the different packages to aim for?

A friend has recommended 'be' internet provider. They say that their
downloads are not capped. Could this be possible? Everybody else is
talking about capping so I'm wondering if what I'm offered is too good to be
true. 'be' require me to be tied into a 12 month contract , so I'm
wondering if they really do not effect some complicated kind of capping
especially since it's only £14.99 a month. [ incidentally 'be' told me over
the phone that my connection to the exchange could give me a maximum of 7 to
8 MB/s download speed whilst everybody else I've ever talked to about it
including virgin and bt tell me that the maximum speed i could possibly get
on my line is 5 MB/s. Would that be because 'be' are using different
equipment or are more fanciful in their expectations?]

Would be grateful if some of you knowledgeable guys who know about this
stuff might recommend one out of: Zen, Waitrose or 'be' for someone with
my and my son's user profile. Thanks for advice.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:47 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

johngood_____ <void@voidacious.net> wrote:

> At the moment I'm with virgin net 'plan2' ( 'not' on the new cable)
> and have learnt recently from virgin that my £17.99 a month package,
> was capped at 2MB data stream and that I could be switched to 5MB IP
> stream for the same money I'm paying them. So I asked them to upgrade
> me to the faster IP system and Virgin told me to wait 10 days or so
> for the system to pick up speed.

> It's now three weeks and I've just done a line test with
> www.speedtest.net which tells me that my download speed is 1001 kb/s.

Thats a pretty useless measure of the connection speed.

What does the modem say the speed is ?

> That's at 2045hours this evening.

> I use the internet myself mainly just for web browsing and emailing,
> but my son upstairs uses his pc for constantly downloading films.
> (we're talking 24 hours a day downloading). I thought that his using the pc like this might put him and me into the
> special 'heavy users' catagory. I have tried to understand virgin's traffic management policy, but cannot. Could I
> be getting such slow download speeds because of my sons usage?

Yes. And it isnt just the download speed that matters, most of the time its
actually limited by the upload speed with torrents and other movie downloads.

> Although when I got the speedtest result this evening he was not downloading anything and he has not done so for a
> couple of days.

> When I looked at the ' Which ' magazine online they recommend Zen and
> Waitrose broadband. The waitrose capps at 5GB a month and one of the
> Zen packages at 2GB a month. Would anyone be able to guess roughly
> for me; what my son's perpetual film downloads would clock up every
> month, so I might know which of the different packages to aim for?

Impossible to say, because it depends entirely on what he is downloading
and how many at once, and where from and how many seeds the sources
of the movies have etc. There is a hell of a difference between the current
popular favourites seeds wise and say obscure unusual stuff movie wise.

I can burn up 100G a month without even trying and I dont even bother
with the most popular movies and mostly dont download movies either.

> A friend has recommended 'be' internet provider. They say that their downloads are not capped. Could this be
> possible?

Yes, there are a some operations that arent.

> Everybody else is talking about capping so I'm wondering if what I'm offered is too good to be true. 'be' require me
> to be tied into a 12 month contract, so I'm wondering if they really do not effect some complicated kind of capping
> especially since it's only £14.99 a month.

Yeah, thats a real possibility.

> [ incidentally 'be' told me over the phone that my connection to the exchange could give me a maximum of 7 to 8 MB/s
> download speed whilst everybody else I've ever talked to about it including virgin and bt tell me that the maximum
> speed i could possibly get on my line is 5 MB/s.

adsl1 can do 8Mb and you can do a lot better than that with adsl2+

Quite a few isps do limit the download to less than the technology can do tho.

> Would that be because 'be' are using different equipment

Yes.

> or are more fanciful in their expectations?]

Unlikely given the consumer law protection you have if they cant deliver what they claim.

> Would be grateful if some of you knowledgeable guys who know about this stuff might recommend one out of: Zen,
> Waitrose or 'be' for someone with my and my son's user profile.

Not everyone who reads here uses the english systems.

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TOPIC: Jesus, the shit is deep now
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 17 2008 1:26 pm
From: Dennis

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 08:36:46 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:55:03 -0700, The Real Bev
><bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Do these idiots even understand the meaning of the word 'frugal'?
>
>Accepting nominations for a new spot for the MCFL regulars. Time to
>erect a tombstone here.

I don't know, I use the Free Agent newsreader and, while I'm not crazy
about the increasing flood of spam, I don't really have any problem
avoiding it. For some reason, almost all of the spam shows up at the
end of the list of messages when I download the headers. Also, there
are rarely any followup messages to the spam which helps the real
postings stand out in the list. If I overlook something now and then,
no biggie.

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--
I'm a hands-on, footloose, knee-jerk head case. -George Carlin

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