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TOPIC: Gas Prices
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 2:55 pm
From: George
clams_casino wrote:
> Vic Smith wrote:
>
>> I've always had the suspicion that Honda and Toyota owners, in their
>> incestuous relationship with CR, continually inflate the "repair"
>> advantage of those marques in order to keep used car prices high
>> for trade-in time. I'm a cynic. And paranoid.
>>
>> --Vic
>>
>>
>
> I know of many previous GM/Ford/Chrysler owners who switched to
> Honda/Toyota, but would never consider going back, but know of / heard
> of few Honda/Toyota owners who would switch to GM/Ford/Chrysler. It
> would be interesting to see some statistics of those who switch brands.
> As Honda / Toyota continue to grow faster than GM/Ford/Chrysler, I'd
> guess the results should be obvious.
>
> Ford/GM/Chrysler may have significantly improved their quality over the
> years (may or may not), but once someone takes on a Honda/Toyota for
> 100-250k miles, it's hard to consider anything else when replacement
> time comes around. Too risky - why take the chance?.
>
The US companies also need to get away from focusing on big, piggy
fluffed up trucks if they want to attract the normal size car buyers who
are buying Honda/Toyota. I can't believe GM is still running commercials
for their piggy escalades declaring we should buy them because they are
*BIG*. At least Ford seems to be getting a clue by throwing Bill Ford
under the bus and apparently focusing on improving the quality of their
normal sized cars.
> My 2000 Accord at 180K miles has had one set of replacement brakes,
> tires, battery, water pump & timing gear with one alignment at 100k. It
> will soon been needing a third set of tires, brakes, etc, but I'll
> gladly invest that $2k for another 50k (or more) miles. Repairs have
> been a headlight, a tail light & $200 to replace a clogged pollution
> device and a windshield replacement at 85K due to a stone / cracked
> glass. At 85k, my Pilot has only had oil changes & wiper blade
> replacements. I've never owned a GM / Ford / Chrysler (owned all
> three) that didn't require numerous repairs before 120k (several before
> 50k) and none lasted 150k. I'm just one owner, but I'm quite sure I'm
> not atypical.
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 3:12 pm
From: aemeijers
barbie gee wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Lou wrote:
>
>>
>> "Larry Caldwell" <firstnamelastinitial@peaksky.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.228c145e578e3ad4989e74@news.peaksky.com...
>>> In article <nJKdnbJYkryu2b_VnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com>,
(snip)
>> I drive a minimum of 400 miles a week, my wife does a minimum of 600
>> miles.
>> Our livelihood depends on making that daily trip to the office and back,
>> every weekday, on time, without fail (OK maybe once a year or so).
>> Maybe a
>> car that cost a few hundred dollars can do that. What are the chances?
>
> that's wacked.
>
> 80 and 120 miles a day respectively? You guys must be way way way out
> in the boonies somewhere with no commuter train service? Even if you
> could drive 65 mph the whole trip or more, that's incredible amounts of
> potentially productive time out the window every day and every week. At
> least if you had a train to take, you could do paperwork, or sleep, or
> read...
>
> my condolences.
Other than metro chicago and the larger east coast cities, what areas DO
have commuter trains? AFAIK, commuter trains in N.A. are largely only in
cities that were built out pre-WWII. Any cities that grew in last 50
years are largely car-based.
aem sends...
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 3:38 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Fri, 09 May 2008 17:14:39 -0400, clams_casino
<PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>I know of many previous GM/Ford/Chrysler owners who switched to
>Honda/Toyota, but would never consider going back, but know of / heard
>of few Honda/Toyota owners who would switch to GM/Ford/Chrysler. It
>would be interesting to see some statistics of those who switch brands.
>As Honda / Toyota continue to grow faster than GM/Ford/Chrysler, I'd
>guess the results should be obvious.
>
>Ford/GM/Chrysler may have significantly improved their quality over the
>years (may or may not), but once someone takes on a Honda/Toyota for
>100-250k miles, it's hard to consider anything else when replacement
>time comes around. Too risky - why take the chance?.
>
>My 2000 Accord at 180K miles has had one set of replacement brakes,
>tires, battery, water pump & timing gear with one alignment at 100k. It
>will soon been needing a third set of tires, brakes, etc, but I'll
>gladly invest that $2k for another 50k (or more) miles. Repairs have
>been a headlight, a tail light & $200 to replace a clogged pollution
>device and a windshield replacement at 85K due to a stone / cracked
>glass. At 85k, my Pilot has only had oil changes & wiper blade
>replacements. I've never owned a GM / Ford / Chrysler (owned all
>three) that didn't require numerous repairs before 120k (several before
>50k) and none lasted 150k. I'm just one owner, but I'm quite sure I'm
>not atypical.
Since I don't buy new cars, and would never drive 180k in 8 years,
this doesn't mean much to me. But good for you. I won't argue
against your choice.
I did buy an '88 Chevy Celebrity with a 2.8 in it in 1991. Had 32k on
it. Paid 6k for it and drove it to 190k over 11 years. It rusted
out, but was running good when my son junked it because wanted
something presentable more than he wanted to replace the battery.
Spent a bit more than you have on repairs, mainly because a CPU cost
me 200 bucks. That CPU going out was the one time I need a tow.
Luckily it wouldn't start when I was starting off to work, so I took
the day off.
Most of the changers you speak of have no reason to go back to
the American cars unless they are buying used.
That's where the value is.
I can easily get 70k miles of virtually trouble free miles from a used
GM car bought for 2500-3000 bucks. Since I normally drive no more
than 10k a year about by the time I get there the car has cosmetic or
upholstery problems anyway and I pick up a "new" one.
Not suggesting this is for everyone, because I know cars well, and can
do all of the maintenance/repairs myself or hire my son cheap.
If I were buying new, I would certainly put Honda and Toyota at the
top of the list. It was different when they were made overseas, since
I support American labor when I can.
On that score a Honda from Ohio beats a whatever GM from Canada hands
down.
But used cars are a different story.
Part of the Honda/Toyota psychology is keeping a car in cosmetically
good condition to attain the vaunted resale price.
If a fender is dented it usually gets fixed before being sold.
A Chevy is normally sold as is and the buyer can get a grand knocked
off the blue book price.
Well, some might just ignore the dent and pocket the grand.
I would, but since my son loves doing it he'll go to the bone yard and
get a perfect fender for maybe a hundred bucks and I'll give him a
couple hundred to put it on.
But most people aren't in the same circumstances that I'm in, so have
to do what's best for them. I can't even recommend they try doing
what I do, because though I haven't experienced any bad buys, they
might. But buying used GM/Ford/Chysler cars is a frugal path for
some, and I'm sure some here have gone that route.
Different strokes. I perfectly understand how some people buy new
cars and consider it frugal. It's just not in my nature.
--Vic
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 3:56 pm
From: SMS
aemeijers wrote:
> Other than metro chicago and the larger east coast cities, what areas DO
> have commuter trains? AFAIK, commuter trains in N.A. are largely only in
> cities that were built out pre-WWII. Any cities that grew in last 50
> years are largely car-based.
San Jose to San Francisco has CalTrain, a real commuter train. BART is
essentially a commuter train. L.A. has a system of sorts, as does San
Diego. San Jose is definitely a city that grew in the last 50 years.
Ironically the CalTrain was mainly to take commuters into San Francisco,
but now the reverse commute is very popular, taking San Francisco
residents down to Silicon Valley.
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 4:01 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:12:43 GMT, aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
>barbie gee wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Lou wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Larry Caldwell" <firstnamelastinitial@peaksky.com> wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.228c145e578e3ad4989e74@news.peaksky.com...
>>>> In article <nJKdnbJYkryu2b_VnZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>(snip)
>
>>> I drive a minimum of 400 miles a week, my wife does a minimum of 600
>>> miles.
>>> Our livelihood depends on making that daily trip to the office and back,
>>> every weekday, on time, without fail (OK maybe once a year or so).
>>> Maybe a
>>> car that cost a few hundred dollars can do that. What are the chances?
>>
>> that's wacked.
>>
>> 80 and 120 miles a day respectively? You guys must be way way way out
>> in the boonies somewhere with no commuter train service? Even if you
>> could drive 65 mph the whole trip or more, that's incredible amounts of
>> potentially productive time out the window every day and every week. At
>> least if you had a train to take, you could do paperwork, or sleep, or
>> read...
>>
>> my condolences.
>
>Other than metro chicago and the larger east coast cities, what areas DO
>have commuter trains? AFAIK, commuter trains in N.A. are largely only in
>cities that were built out pre-WWII. Any cities that grew in last 50
>years are largely car-based.
>
Even in metro Chicago home/work locations are preponderantly outside
of train/bus routes.
But much of this commuting is ridiculous.
A whole lot of driving and gas usage could be reduced by the guv and
corporate leadership. I'm talking about most office work, which can
be done from home.
When I was in IT and had a long drive I basically demanded to
telecommute a couple days a week and got my way.
That reduced my commuting and using gas by 40%.
Any corporate leader with some sense can do his part in reducing
all the waste of petrol by setting up a telecommuting regime.
Doesn't mean there aren't office days, because you need face-to-face.
But telecommuting 3 days of 5 is easily doable.
A 60% reduction in burning gas and time.
Idiots and weaklings with NO leadership abilities are running this
country's guv and corporations.
--Vic
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 5:03 pm
From:
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:96_Uj.3125$3O7.288@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> Your problem is that you're not looking at the big picture. You're
> probably looking at vehicles with very high-depreciation, whereas the best
> selling cars in the U.S. are not those vehicles, and are not vehicles that
> many people want (they depreciate quickly for a reason!).
>
Umm, I buy 10+ year old Subarus and keep them for at least 10 more years. To
me, a six year old car is the youngest thing I would consider purchasing. I
would NEVER spend more than $5,000 on a car.
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:00 pm
From: Truly Stunned
In article <PzEUj.3049$nl7.1542@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> Alright, then I guess I'm wealthy, even though I'm really not wealthy,
> just middle class.
No, you are deluded. There is no middle class left in America.
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:09 pm
From: "Lou"
"barbie gee" <booger@nosespam.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0805090928380.26766@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz...
>
> 80 and 120 miles a day respectively? You guys must be way way way out in
> the boonies somewhere with no commuter train service? Even if you could
> drive 65 mph the whole trip or more, that's incredible amounts of
> potentially productive time out the window every day and every week. At
> least if you had a train to take, you could do paperwork, or sleep, or
> read...
>
> my condolences.
I live about 20 miles east of Philadelphia, and have for the last 19 - 20
years. If you were to visit, you wouldn't call it the boonies unless your
idea of a decent sized town is something on the order of lower Manhattan.
Over that period, my commute has varied from a low of 7 miles one way to a
high of 60+. For around 10 of those years, I made my living as a consultant
and my job location could change as often as monthly. For two of those
years, my wife and I worked within a mile of each other and we were able to
carpool. For six of those years, I worked in downtown Philly and was able
to take the commuter train into the city. That took an hour or more, door
to door, and don't talk to me about doing paperwork or sleeping in a crammed
full standing room only commuter train. So right now my job is about 40
miles away from home, and the commute takes less time than taking the train
into the city used to.
During that going on 20 years, I've had a dozen or more job locations in the
greater Philadelphia area. My wife is more stable - she's had only three or
four. No way are we going to move every time the job changes, and even if
we did, moving closer to one job would mean moving further away from the
other. No way am I going to stay in a job I don't like, or have grown tired
of, just because of the commute, or for any other reason for that matter
(tried that once, for 6 years - worst mistake I ever made). So we've picked
a nice place to live, both do the kind of work we like very much, make a
decent income, feathered our nest and live comfortably.
I suppose we could cut our income by half or more (based on median income)
and find some sort of work closer to home. It wouldn't be the same kind of
work we do now, and I know I wouldn't like it as much. But hey, we could
get by with a cheap used car. Think of all the money we'd save.
Doesn't seem like a worthwhile trade to me - save your condolences for
someone who needs them.
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:13 pm
From: "Lou"
"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:t1l924he452so9vn254lbcpdefmq17efj5@4ax.com...
> Even in metro Chicago home/work locations are preponderantly outside
> of train/bus routes.
> But much of this commuting is ridiculous.
> A whole lot of driving and gas usage could be reduced by the guv and
> corporate leadership. I'm talking about most office work, which can
> be done from home.
> When I was in IT <snip>
Say no more - I've been a victim of IT at various companies most of my
working life. Having you guys not in the office can't be worse than having
you in the office.
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:27 pm
From: krw
In article <MPG.228d878dd103f486989e7b@news.peaksky.com>,
firstnamelastinitial@peaksky.com says...
> In article <qp6624te2glcaarj221l62ekc3ql2318os@4ax.com>,
> thismailautodeleted@comcast.net (Vic Smith) says...
>
> > Sweet spots of price depreciation that have no substantial bearing on
> > longevity exist. This is mostly due to depreciation probably still
> > being tied to old rusting and engine failure measurements.
>
> I suppose the equation changes for those states that salt their roads.
> My state doesn't, so a 20 year old car could easily have no body rust.
> States that intentionally ruin vehicles cost their citizens a fortune in
> vehicle replacement expenses.
Driving off a bridge doesn't do much for the longevity of a car
either. Thanks, but I'll take the rust.
--
Keith
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:30 pm
From: "Lou"
"Larry Caldwell" <firstnamelastinitial@peaksky.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.228d8df52b8a9b42989e7d@news.peaksky.com...
> In article <xOWdnVQT-c-mAb7VnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com>,
> lpogodajr292185@comcast.net (Lou) says...
>
> > If you want to buy a used car, look me up in about three years - that's
> > around the next time I'll be ready to deal, and I'd rather see the car
go to
> > a person than to a dealer. 'Course, the car might not be old enough for
> > you, it'll only have around 120,000 miles on it.
>
> If those are highway miles, and you kept up your service schedule, there
> will still be at least 50% of the car's useful life left. Driving like
> you do, you should run it for about 250,000 before trading in.
>
Well, yes and no. I shop around, but almost always end up buying a car at
the same place, from the same sales guy who has been there for years. He
took one of the cars I traded years ago for himself (or really, for his
wife). Every few years, how that car has been doing opens our conversation.
There've been repairs, of course, some of them fairly expensive, though not
as expensive as buying a new car. On the other hand, his wife doesn't hold
down a job, and if she's without a car for a few days, it's no big deal as
far as they're concerned. And of course, she's not piling on the miles at
anything like the rate we do. Did I mention that we make our commute every
day, on time, all year? I don't need a car that gets used for only driving
around town, or one that leaves me or my wife 60 miles from home on the
interstate during the evening dash. I guess some of it depends on your
definition of "useful".
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 7:41 pm
From: krw
In article <48240423$0$7077$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, <h> says...
>
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:edRUj.16869$2g1.5436@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> > We're actually in that situation now. Time to replace the 12 year old
> > Camry and give it to the child-unit. Do we buy a 2007 Camry for $17,000
> > from a private party, or a 2009 Camry for $19,000? It's really a
> > no-brainer.
>
> Umm, no. Who buys a used car less than 6 years old? What's the cost savings?
Half, at three years (with 12K miles).
> You people are crazy.
Nope.
--
Keith
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 8:50 pm
From: SMS
Truly Stunned wrote:
> In article <PzEUj.3049$nl7.1542@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Alright, then I guess I'm wealthy, even though I'm really not wealthy,
>> just middle class.
>
> No, you are deluded. There is no middle class left in America.
Sure there is. They used to be upper middle class, now they're middle class.
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TOPIC: Obese judge allegedly napped, made bailiff rub her feet
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 3:22 pm
From: ruth@legaleagles.com (Ruth)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/09/queen.judge.ap/index.html
Story Highlights
* Nevada judge faces week of hearings that could end her career
* Elizabeth Halverson is accused of using staff as personal valets
* She also is accused of sleeping on the bench
* Her supporters blame malcontent staffers
LAS VEGAS, Nevada (AP) -- Elizabeth Halverson is a judge. But the way
courthouse staffers see it, she expects to be treated like a queen.
Her former bailiff, for example, says Halverson made him feel like a
"houseboy." He says the judge -- who is obese and uses a motorized scooter
to get around -- made him put her shoes on her feet, massage her back,
cover her with a blanket for naps and make sure her oxygen tank was filled.
He says she asked him, "Do you want to worship me from near or afar?"
Halverson also surrounded herself with her own hired guards, saying she did
not trust the courthouse security force to protect her. Another time, she
allegedly had her husband sworn in so that she could ask him under oath
whether he had completed chores at home.
Since then, the 50-year-old Nevada district judge has been locked out of
her Las Vegas courtroom, suspended from the bench and brought up on
judicial-misconduct charges that include not only misusing her position and
treating her staff like personal valets but also tainting juries and
falling asleep on the bench.
Nevada's judicial discipline commission is preparing for a week of open
hearings next month that could put an end to Halverson's career.
Many lawyers are unwilling to talk publicly about the case because of the
powerful figures involved, but expect the proceedings to be entertaining,
to say the least.
Halverson denies the allegations.
"We believe the Judicial Discipline Commission has overreached," said her
attorney, John Arrascada. "It's apparent that some people believe her
physical appearance somehow makes her unable to perform her duties as a
judge." He added, "Last time I checked, being a judge doesn't require a
beauty contest."
Halverson holds a law degree from the University of Southern California and
worked as a law clerk in the state court for nine years before she was
elected to the bench in fall 2006. She handled civil and criminal cases
alike.
When the bailiff who complained about her, Johnnie Jordan Jr., was
reassigned, Halverson hired her own guards and let them bypass security
checks at the courthouse. She called 911 when court administrators tried to
enter her office.
In May 2007, the chief Clark County District Court judge, Kathy Hardcastle,
locked her out of her courtroom. The following July, six months after
Halverson was sworn in, the commission suspended her, accusing her among
other things of creating a hostile work environment, hiring a technician to
try to hack into the courthouse computer system, and causing mistrials in
two sexual assault cases by improperly meeting with jurors.
The commission declared that she posed "a substantial threat to the public
or to the administration of justice."
The case is laden with subplots. Hardcastle dismissed Halverson as a law
clerk in 2004, saying that such a position is typically a short-time job
and that it was time Halverson moved on. Halverson then mounted an
unsuccessful bid for Family Court judge against Hardcastle's husband.
Hardcastle has insisted her actions against Halverson weren't personal.
Jeffrey Stempel, a law professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas,
said he is troubled by what appears to be an attempt to "micromanage" a
judge.
"Judicial removal should generally be reserved for corruption and complete
incompetence or inability to do the job," Stempel said. "One question you
have to ask is, `Is this judge so bad we have to remove her before the
voters have a chance to do so?' "
Dayvid Figler, a defense lawyer, said he had no complaints after trying
cases in Halverson's courtroom.
"In fairness, she believes she's fighting the fight of a maverick," Figler
said. "I think her position is, `Why should I be another cog in the
machine? Isn't it what the voters elected me to do, bring change?' "
Amid the hullabaloo, Halverson has filed for re-election in August to a
six-year term and is soliciting contributions on her Web site. But she has
also filed a request to stop the election, claiming that the Legislature
unconstitutionally changed the procedures. She continues to draw her
$130,000-a-year salary.
Halverson did not respond to an interview request. A shirtless man who
answered the door at her home pointed to a "no trespassing" sign and
ordered a reporter off the property. The yard is clean these days, after
the city cited Halverson for leaving it strewn with junk and letting the
water in her pool grow murky and stagnant.
In documents denying the allegations, Halverson has blamed disgruntled
employees and vindictive colleagues.
She has submitted a report from a therapist who diagnosed her with an
adjustment disorder, anxiety and depression. And she produced a letter from
her physician, Dr. Michael Jacobs, who said she is diabetic, uses a
wheelchair because of arthritis in her feet and knees, and needs oxygen to
counteract the effects of sleep apnea.
Jacobs said a drop in blood sugar may have caused a brief episode in which
she fell asleep in court. But he said there is no physical reason Halverson
cannot be an effective judge.
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TOPIC: WHOLESALE CHANEL DIOR SUNGLASSES FROM CHINA WHOLESALERS
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TOPIC: Weather, west of the Chickpea...
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 9:09 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
This is a video of a tornado that passed near myself and the Chickpeas...
http://www.whnt.com/Global/category.asp?C=6019&nav=menu108_2
One of the local meterologists rated it as one of the top five tornado
videos he'd seen.
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Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net
http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"a member or members of Osama bin Ladens' Al Qaeda network, posing as
computer programmers, were able to gain employment at Microsoft..."
claim made by Mohammed Afroze Abdul Razzak to police in India, 12/01.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, May 9 2008 10:34 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Fri, 09 May 2008 23:09:47 -0500, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
wrote:
>This is a video of a tornado that passed near myself and the Chickpeas...
>
>
http://www.whnt.com/Global/category.asp?C=6019&nav=menu108_2
>
>One of the local meterologists rated it as one of the top five tornado
>videos he'd seen.
>
>
>Gary
Greeetings, sir. Hope that Saturday doesn't have a repeat
performance.
What I found interesting about the video is the lack of debris
impacts. The aerodynamics of the cars were a major factor in how they
reacted. Sobering footage. Even national news picked it up.
Guess I might toss a door on our old storm shelter sometime. The
sirens were going off a couple of times when that last storm passed.
With any luck, the next storm will be more like WHNT reported last
time, when Dan was warning folks to stay away from the windows at the
station due to an ominous rotation return on the radar as it
approached the newsroom, and the wind outside the station topped out
at 2 mph as it passed overhead.
Keeping it frugal, replaced the motor on my rider mower a second time.
Used motors are $100, and any country boy needs to know how to replace
such items.
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