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TOPIC: What's the best purchase you've ever made and why ?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 8:57 am
From: California Poppy

My best purchase was a recent purchase of a TV. It is a $300 Emerson
which I ordered from Walmart. It provides me with hours of
entertainment every evening. It has a built in DVD player although I
haven't used it yet (except to test that it works) so I can rent
movies from Netflix if I choose. So far, my favorite programs are on
PBS..."Nightly business Report", "California Gold", British mysteries,
etc.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 2:37 pm
From: Eddie

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Joe <cyan999@post.com>
wrote:

>Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>someone elses), what so far is
>the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>think so.
>
>
In 1971 I was a senior at the U of Hawaii. We had 5 kids (I started
late on GI vet ed benefits) We lived in subsidized low-income fed
housing. I worked nights after classes to make ends meet. Because of
5 kids my wife did not work except my senior year.
State housing had a lottery for FHA 235 program for non-home owners.
It would give you a new house fee simple with no down. Thousands put
there names in the lottery, only a handful were picked. I was one of
them. The house cost $34,000. We sold it for $64,000 five years
later, bought a house with the proceeds in San Jose. Paid $41,000.
Worth $700,000 now.
Eddie

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 5:01 pm
From: -DirtBag© <"-Dirt\"@sonic.net">

Joe wrote:
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.
>
>
>

Buying 2450 acres of property in a prime rural location for next to
nothing in 1986 and using a little known process of re-establishing and
reclaiming correct title via historical patents and certificates of
compliance in essence circumvented The Calif Map Act. Have been selling
off parcels for 20-years now. That single deal and the profits it
generated generated have paved the way for many profitable developments
which would never have been possible without this cash cow.. Original
Cost $225-ac. Averaged Sale $4200-AC Real Estate 'Dirt' is where is
the money is. Unless your really lucky in the stock market.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 5:05 pm
From: "Jerry Okamura"

The house we are presently living in now. We got it at a great price, and
it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase price, in
about eight years.

"Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.
>
>
>

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 6:16 pm
From: "FrediFizzx"

Dirt, what is the "Calif. Map Act"?

Fred

"-DirtBag©" <"-Dirt\"@sonic.net"> wrote in message
news:482F71C2.8000104@sonic.net...
> Joe wrote:
>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>> someone elses), what so far is
>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>> think so.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Buying 2450 acres of property in a prime rural location for next to
> nothing in 1986 and using a little known process of re-establishing
> and reclaiming correct title via historical patents and certificates
> of compliance in essence circumvented The Calif Map Act. Have been
> selling off parcels for 20-years now. That single deal and the
> profits it generated generated have paved the way for many profitable
> developments which would never have been possible without this cash
> cow.. Original Cost $225-ac. Averaged Sale $4200-AC Real Estate
> 'Dirt' is where is the money is. Unless your really lucky in the stock
> market.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 6:20 pm
From: "FrediFizzx"

Yep, ditto on our house also. Bought for $23K back in the early 70's.
Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)

Fred

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> The house we are presently living in now. We got it at a great price,
> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase
> price, in about eight years.
>
> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>> someone elses), what so far is
>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>> think so.
>>
>>
>>
>

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 6:49 pm
From: "beadsbyirene"

"FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
> Yep, ditto on our house also. Bought for $23K back in the early 70's.
> Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>
> Fred
>
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> The house we are presently living in now. We got it at a great price,
>> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase
>> price, in about eight years.
>>
>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>>> think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

You guys are so materialistic. The best purchase I ever made was a marriage
license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 9:40 am
From: sarge137

On May 16, 10:31 pm, Anthony Matonak
<anthony...@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> sarge137 wrote:
> > On May 16, 12:39 pm, Anthony Matonak wrote:
> ...
> >> Isn't it a little unethical to incur debts that you know won't
> >> be paid if you die?
>
> > No less ethical than the credit card companies that knowingly offer
> > cards to seniors on fixed incomes, in the hopes that their families
> > will feel guilty and pay the bills.
>
> I agree that there is plenty of unethical, even criminal,
> lending practices out there. I don't think this really has
> much to do with the question though.

Correct - but you're the one who raised the question of the ethics of
incurring debt that won't be paid when one dies.

> Does the fact that a lot of other people are doing things
> as bad, or worse, justify your doing something wrong? Or,
> if everyone is doing it, is it even wrong anymore?

Uh, yeah. If you stomp on my foot I'll stomp back, twice and harder.
If you try to scam me I'll do everything I can to turn it around on
you and scam you back.

Many gray areas in there, but that's how I personally respond to
people who try to take advantage of me, or engage in less than
straight forward business practices.

I don't even think about about what's right, wrong or ethical - just
how I can get even.

Regards,
Sarge

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TOPIC: Stihl -- possible to get discount?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 10:00 am
From: Jon

Out of curiosity, does Stihl ever have a sale, or offer coupons, on
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Information as to how to get a discount on Stihl equipment would be
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Will it be Presideny Hillary Clinton or President John McCain?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 12:20 pm
From: "Bob F"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 3:05 pm
From: clams_casino

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> http://jhku.net
>

Received a note today from abuse@cnntp.org claiming to have "canceled
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They are still showing up in my news list, but hopefully this spammer
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 6:53 pm
From: EdwardATeller

On May 13, 9:49 pm, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
> Richard Crowley wrote:
> > "George Grapman" wrote ...
> >> clams_casino wrote:
> >>> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
> >>> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
> >>> postings..
> >> I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have replied
> >> to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
> >> It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and later
> >> denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is posted
> >> they tend to depart the thread.
>
> > You appear to be refereing to the Archives functionality
> > which pre-dated Google's online web-based posting
> > mechanisms.
>
> Correct. What used to be dejanews. At that time you posted a message
> with your email address and then,like craigslist, they sent you a
> confirmation before it was posted.

Interesting discussion. Since I am posting from Google Groups, I
guess some won't
see this reply. Nice to know that what I have to say is not important
because of the
technology I choose to use.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 8:17 pm
From: "Ken Maltby"

"EdwardATeller" <sorry_no_email@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f8d7950d-f5de-49b5-b6b0-1481a8d402d6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 13, 9:49 pm, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
>> Richard Crowley wrote:
>> > "George Grapman" wrote ...
>> >> clams_casino wrote:
>> >>> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
>> >>> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
>> >>> postings..
>> >> I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have
>> >> replied
>> >> to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
>> >> It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and
>> >> later
>> >> denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is
>> >> posted
>> >> they tend to depart the thread.
>>
>> > You appear to be refereing to the Archives functionality
>> > which pre-dated Google's online web-based posting
>> > mechanisms.
>>
>> Correct. What used to be dejanews. At that time you posted a message
>> with your email address and then,like craigslist, they sent you a
>> confirmation before it was posted.
>
> Interesting discussion. Since I am posting from Google Groups, I
> guess some won't
> see this reply. Nice to know that what I have to say is not important
> because of the
> technology I choose to use.

What you have to say may not be heard because you
chose to use the same means as so many of the more
noxious posters. People are avoiding the din of the
crazies and those hawking wares and self-aggrandizement.
If you choose to come to the NewsGroups through the
same means as the things that people are avoiding; you
should expect to be cut off when that means is cut off.

While I still keep track of all the postings, I find that
most of the GoogleGroups Spam is easy to spot and
my delete button works well. Also, it makes it easier
to notice and follow threads like this. I try to avoid
posting to these threads though, as it can be a way to
propagate them around the anti GoogleGroup filters.

There are a number of other ways to post to the
News Groups, you need not use Google's service
with its mass News Group posting features.

Luck;
Ken

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 8:35 pm
From: Paul

Ken Maltby wrote:
> "EdwardATeller" <sorry_no_email@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f8d7950d-f5de-49b5-b6b0-1481a8d402d6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 13, 9:49 pm, George Grapman <sfgeo...@paccbell.net> wrote:
>>> Richard Crowley wrote:
>>>> "George Grapman" wrote ...
>>>>> clams_casino wrote:
>>>>>> There so few legit googlegroup postings (essentially negligible) -
>>>>>> certainly not worth the advantages of not filtering all google group
>>>>>> postings..
>>>>> I mainly use google groups to catch up on people who may have
>>>>> replied
>>>>> to my posts in groups that I do not check that often.
>>>>> It is also a source of amusement when someone makes a claim and
>>>>> later
>>>>> denies making that claim. When the link to the original claim is
>>>>> posted
>>>>> they tend to depart the thread.
>>>> You appear to be refereing to the Archives functionality
>>>> which pre-dated Google's online web-based posting
>>>> mechanisms.
>>> Correct. What used to be dejanews. At that time you posted a message
>>> with your email address and then,like craigslist, they sent you a
>>> confirmation before it was posted.
>> Interesting discussion. Since I am posting from Google Groups, I
>> guess some won't
>> see this reply. Nice to know that what I have to say is not important
>> because of the
>> technology I choose to use.
>
> What you have to say may not be heard because you
> chose to use the same means as so many of the more
> noxious posters. People are avoiding the din of the
> crazies and those hawking wares and self-aggrandizement.
> If you choose to come to the NewsGroups through the
> same means as the things that people are avoiding; you
> should expect to be cut off when that means is cut off.
>
> While I still keep track of all the postings, I find that
> most of the GoogleGroups Spam is easy to spot and
> my delete button works well. Also, it makes it easier
> to notice and follow threads like this. I try to avoid
> posting to these threads though, as it can be a way to
> propagate them around the anti GoogleGroup filters.
>
> There are a number of other ways to post to the
> News Groups, you need not use Google's service
> with its mass News Group posting features.
>
> Luck;
> Ken

news.aioe.org - no registration needed. Limited number of text posts per day.
news.motzarella.org - register to use. I used a gmail account for an
email address for registration. Account and password
authenticate the connection of the news reader software
to the site.

AIOE was inoperative for a few days, due to a DNS problem, but is now
up and running again. I use Thunderbird (mozilla.org) for posting to
these servers. For Motzarella, I have to tick the "authenticate" box
in the properties for the connection to the server.

HTH,
Paul

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, May 17 2008 8:59 pm
From: hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray)

In article <f8d7950d-f5de-49b5-b6b0-1481a8d402d6@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
EdwardATeller <sorry_no_email@yahoo.com> writes:

>Interesting discussion. Since I am posting from Google Groups, I
>guess some won't
>see this reply. Nice to know that what I have to say is not important
>because of the
>technology I choose to use.

It's a simple signal-to-noise problem.

The technology you chose is indistinguishable from that
which many spammers use.

Why are you surprised when people consider what you have to
say not important enough to dig out of the spammer infested trash?

--
These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

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