Wednesday, May 21, 2008

24 new messages in 14 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* learn chinese kung fu is so easy! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce932e2fe29e1c0b?hl=en
* Equipment for sale RIPOFF ALERT! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50b09e9a8e2b1959?hl=en
* Paper flowers videos download - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0d8233b216b7c2ca?hl=en
* Sony HC5E low frame rate in low light - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/aed6af5746cbb42c?hl=en
* Prison Inmate Day - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6925d2c6969f222e?hl=en
* "U.S. court: currency discriminates against the blind" - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cf6d639ed7f71ae9?hl=en
* Hand in hand with a total of tiding over the difficult times - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fc3b7733f47a2f33?hl=en
* hai dear friendz - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/78525d8ce1a59dce?hl=en
* where to get cheap ed hardy tshirt,ed hardy hoodies and CHRISTIAN AUDIGIER t
and cheap jeans - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/15acd1b5b8331d54?hl=en
* Indian Recipes Paradise - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cc0bb54be854b4df?hl=en
* Minimum 1600$ Every Time You Do It! - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3c0ee2ecf652b1f2?hl=en
* Currency for the Blind - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/22451e91d112bb3f?hl=en
* ero magazines - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1f27090466b5bfcd?hl=en
* Thoughts on SUV Purchase... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b131b24652af00b0?hl=en

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TOPIC: learn chinese kung fu is so easy!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ce932e2fe29e1c0b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:01 am
From: yingyu1107@gmail.com


Learn chinese kung fu is so easy! click :www.kungfuer.com/
Secondly, the martial arts is sports, it clearly distinguishes it from
the practical people injured and maimed combative techniques. Routine
movement despite contains rich combative approach, but its purpose is
to drill through to the physical and businessmen offensive and
defensive capacity, ability and skills contest, the technical
requirements and practical techniques to a certain extent of the
difference between the movement Sanshou technology is of course much
closer to the South practical skills, but because of the competition
rules, also has its limitations in the sports movement within the
technology. In short in a nutshell, martial arts sports properties
with a clear, and sports is the main social philosophy and martial
arts, medicine, ethics, military studies, aesthetic, Qigong and other
traditional culture of thinking and cultural values, focus on
Nawaijianxiu, such as whole concept, the concept of yin and yang
changes, the shape of God, gas theory, movement, said rigid flexible,
and so on, and gradually formed a unique national style of marartial
arts and cultural system. It has rich connotations and suggest a deep,
we have the human sports physical fitness a common feature, but also
has the unique oriental civilization philosophical, scientific and
artistic, more concentrated expression of the Chinese people in sports
wisdom in the field of crystallization. It reflects one aspect of the
cultural splendor of the Orient. Therefore, in a broad sense,
understanding, Wushu is not only a sport, and is a national sports and
the Chinese people's long-term accumulated to a valuable cultural
heritage.
Mysterious Chinese martial arts


Learn chinese kung fu is so easy! click :www.kungfuer.com/


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TOPIC: Equipment for sale RIPOFF ALERT!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/50b09e9a8e2b1959?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:38 am
From: Soundhaspriority


In article l5v634dophggqgcialfa427fneuie85b77@4ax.com, "paul@nospam.net"
<paul@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> Mics
>
> * AKG 1200e's no longer manufactured.
>
> contact paul at glitchless dot net

RIPOFF ALERT!


Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 10:22 am
From: paul@nospam.net


Much as I hate to decend to the level of this impersonater of Bob
Morein, on Buzzard news. The items are indeed for sale and can be
viewed on my website

http://glitchless.net/studio.html
The mic in question is of course not new so who cares that they no
longer manufacture it. I'm not a store. I'm a studio owner with some
gear to sell off I rarely use.


On Wed, 21 May 2008 17:38:31 +1000, Soundhaspriority
<moreinwebreg@verizon.net> wrote:

>In article l5v634dophggqgcialfa427fneuie85b77@4ax.com, "paul@nospam.net"
><paul@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Mics
>>
>> * AKG 1200e's no longer manufactured.
>>
>> contact paul at glitchless dot net
>
>RIPOFF ALERT!
>
>
>Bob Morein
>(310) 237-6511


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TOPIC: Paper flowers videos download
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0d8233b216b7c2ca?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:59 am
From: Annette


Hello,

A friend has made it possible for me to obtain all the videos on this
website http://www.qyf.com.cn/soft/ that is a business that teaches
flower making. In China it is an A-R-T! I have been able to make
flowers that are just awesome. We cannot post these to the web. They
can only be downloaded and shared with friends. If there are many of
you who would want to have a small paper arts group that enjoyed
sharing the results of this paper craft, email me about that, and if
we have enough people, let's start one.

Also, check out this website, if you are not aware of it already.
www.mommymakesroses.com

I love making my flowers out of the paper
that she uses.

Annette


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TOPIC: Sony HC5E low frame rate in low light
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/aed6af5746cbb42c?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 3:30 am
From: D


Hello!
Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem, the video was
always fluid.
Best regards,
Dima

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 4:54 am
From: ransley


On May 21, 5:30 am, D <t...@bk.ru> wrote:
> Hello!
> Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
> by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
> 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem, the video was
> always fluid.
> Best regards,
> Dima

Im sure the manual will tell you if you read it, but I guess its a low
light mode and it probably is indicated on the screen

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 5:02 am
From: D


On May 21, 3:54 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 5:30 am, D <t...@bk.ru> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> > Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
> > by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
> > 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem, the video was
> > always fluid.
> > Best regards,
> > Dima
>
> Im sure the manual will tell you if you read it, but I guess its a low
> light mode and it probably is indicated on the screen
Thanks for replying!
No, it's not the low light mode. I do not enable it and it is not
indicated on the screen.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 7:18 am
From: ransley


On May 21, 7:02 am, D <t...@bk.ru> wrote:
> On May 21, 3:54 pm, ransley <Mark_Rans...@yahoo.com> wrote:> On May 21, 5:30 am, D <t...@bk.ru> wrote:
>
> > > Hello!
> > > Why does a panoramic video (in an evening or inside a building, shot
> > > by Sony HC5E camcorder) look like the frame rate is about 10 fps? My
> > > 11-year old JVC VHS-C camcorder never had this problem, the video was
> > > always fluid.
> > > Best regards,
> > > Dima
>
> > Im sure the manual will tell you if you read it, but I guess its a low
> > light mode and it probably is indicated on the screen
>
> Thanks for replying!
> No, it's not the low light mode. I do not enable it and it is not
> indicated on the screen.

You said panoramic is that a special wide mode, if its new take it
back, sony manuals are junk, and I found options even Sony support did
not even know that are not in my manual, that I could shoot stills
while taking video on an old unit. They have so much new stuff out its
hard to know all the operating parameters on every model. Keep looking
you will figure it out, but color slow shutter may be automatic and
its on with Night Shot on mine


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TOPIC: Prison Inmate Day
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 5:22 am
From: "CWISF.com"


Hello,

The Caribbean West Indies, Sorority-Fraternity -Tau Omega Alpa is a DC
no profit, we are host for Prison Inmate Day.
In order to raise money, we have an online shopping mall linked to
secure web sites.

If you are an online shopper, we welcome your business, or if you know
of any one that shops on line please refer them to this shopping mall
at www.cwisf.com

or www.takevows.com

or

www.tauomegaalpha.com

or
www.prisioininmateday.com they are all one site.

Our prison inmates need your encouragement and understanding. On
November 1, 2007 over 300 poems where mailed to prison inmates. On
that day, we lit candles to pray for all our children with hope that
they stay out of trouble and out of prison, and for our prison inmates
not to return to prison.

Thank You

Pamela Peters, Founder


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TOPIC: "U.S. court: currency discriminates against the blind"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cf6d639ed7f71ae9?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 6:22 am
From: George


jd wrote:
> An appeals court said that currency discriminates against the blind because
> blind folks can't tell what the denomination of their bills are. This is
> another bullshit, frivilous case. Next, the courts will be saying that
> Harley-Davidson discriminates against the blind because blind people can't
> operate motorcycles.
>
> There are some stupid judges and attorneys. Obviously, common sense isn't
> a requirement to go into law.
>
> A simple way for blind people to handle money is for them to ask the bank
> clerk for all $5's when they take money out of the bank. They could even
> ask for the bank manager to count the money to make sure they weren't
> duped. So if they go to Borders to buy a CD and the total comes to $13.
> They can peel off 3 $5's out of their pouch of $5's and hand them to the
> clerk. And then when they get $2 back, they can rest assured that the 2
> bills are both $1's because the clerk certainly wouldn't give them back 2
> $10's.
>
> They can have a specially shaped pouch for $20's, one for $5's, etc.. So
> they know what's in each pouch.
>
>
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I wonder if the banks that issue cards are also in on this? They really
want to insert themselves into every transaction so they can collect
their tribute. So they are running these massive ad campaigns showing
how nice it is to buy your coffee, donut or whatever using their payment
system and offering all of these "reward" programs giving you a little
cut of the fee and percentage that is added to all transactions in order
to make you forget about cash.

I can just imagine them stepping forward to proclaim that if everyone
used their cards and cash was eliminated it would "protect" those who
couldn't manage cash.

Or it could be greedy lawyers moving wealth to themselves.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 6:26 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"


"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:xbudnbS0AYxGvKnVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
> jd wrote:
>> An appeals court said that currency discriminates against the blind
>> because blind folks can't tell what the denomination of their bills are.
>> This is another bullshit, frivilous case. Next, the courts will be
>> saying that Harley-Davidson discriminates against the blind because blind
>> people can't operate motorcycles.
>>
>> There are some stupid judges and attorneys. Obviously, common sense
>> isn't a requirement to go into law.
>>
>> A simple way for blind people to handle money is for them to ask the bank
>> clerk for all $5's when they take money out of the bank. They could even
>> ask for the bank manager to count the money to make sure they weren't
>> duped. So if they go to Borders to buy a CD and the total comes to $13.
>> They can peel off 3 $5's out of their pouch of $5's and hand them to the
>> clerk. And then when they get $2 back, they can rest assured that the 2
>> bills are both $1's because the clerk certainly wouldn't give them back 2
>> $10's.
>>
>> They can have a specially shaped pouch for $20's, one for $5's, etc.. So
>> they know what's in each pouch.
>>
> I wonder if the banks that issue cards are also in on this? They really
> want to insert themselves into every transaction so they can collect their
> tribute. So they are running these massive ad campaigns showing how nice
> it is to buy your coffee, donut or whatever using their payment system and
> offering all of these "reward" programs giving you a little cut of the fee
> and percentage that is added to all transactions in order to make you
> forget about cash.
>
> I can just imagine them stepping forward to proclaim that if everyone used
> their cards and cash was eliminated it would "protect" those who couldn't
> manage cash.
>
> Or it could be greedy lawyers moving wealth to themselves.


the head of visa said that we'd be cashless by either 2010 or 2012.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cashless-society-by-2012-says-visa-chief-439676.html

at that point cc companies will collect a percentage from both the buyer and
the seller.

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 12:10 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Wed, 21 May 2008 13:26:43 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
<derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:xbudnbS0AYxGvKnVnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> jd wrote:
>>> An appeals court said that currency discriminates against the blind
>>> because blind folks can't tell what the denomination of their bills are.
>>> This is another bullshit, frivilous case. Next, the courts will be
>>> saying that Harley-Davidson discriminates against the blind because blind
>>> people can't operate motorcycles.
>>>
>>> There are some stupid judges and attorneys. Obviously, common sense
>>> isn't a requirement to go into law.
>>>
>>> A simple way for blind people to handle money is for them to ask the bank
>>> clerk for all $5's when they take money out of the bank. They could even
>>> ask for the bank manager to count the money to make sure they weren't
>>> duped. So if they go to Borders to buy a CD and the total comes to $13.
>>> They can peel off 3 $5's out of their pouch of $5's and hand them to the
>>> clerk. And then when they get $2 back, they can rest assured that the 2
>>> bills are both $1's because the clerk certainly wouldn't give them back 2
>>> $10's.
>>>
>>> They can have a specially shaped pouch for $20's, one for $5's, etc.. So
>>> they know what's in each pouch.
>>>
>> I wonder if the banks that issue cards are also in on this? They really
>> want to insert themselves into every transaction so they can collect their
>> tribute. So they are running these massive ad campaigns showing how nice
>> it is to buy your coffee, donut or whatever using their payment system and
>> offering all of these "reward" programs giving you a little cut of the fee
>> and percentage that is added to all transactions in order to make you
>> forget about cash.
>>
>> I can just imagine them stepping forward to proclaim that if everyone used
>> their cards and cash was eliminated it would "protect" those who couldn't
>> manage cash.
>>
>> Or it could be greedy lawyers moving wealth to themselves.
>
>
>the head of visa said that we'd be cashless by either 2010 or 2012.
>
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cashless-society-by-2012-says-visa-chief-439676.html
>
>at that point cc companies will collect a percentage from both the buyer and
>the seller.

The head of Visa is an opportunistic twit, and besides that, the
article refers to europe, not the U.S.

The mint has been behind the curve for years. The issue of lack of
kinesthetically identifying marks is not limited to blind people and
has been the bane of people handling cash for decades. When rushed,
and putting together straps of money, it isn't unusual for a bill or
two to get mixed into the wrong strap - a fiver in a 50 wrap of ones,
etc.

Just how hard is it to put an identifying dog ear on two opposing
corners of each bill? That way, a strap of singles would all have a
notch at one point, a fiver might have a two notches, or a squarish
shape instead of a triangle, or a curved cut off end instead of an
angular one, etc.. This isn't rocket science. As long as the cutouts
affected the ends of the notes instead of the long sides, most
existing equipment would handle the change without modification.




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TOPIC: Hand in hand with a total of tiding over the difficult times
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 6:25 am
From: chinagood010@yahoo.cn


Chuan Wenchuan four deep condolences over the earthquake victims
compatriots WWW.SNEAKER-OUTLET .CN


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TOPIC: hai dear friendz
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/78525d8ce1a59dce?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 7:00 am
From: srini


start your own home bussines
www.thegoodthingss.blogspot.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 9:30 am
From: clams_casino


srini wrote:

>start your own home bussines
>
>

Do you include a spell checker with your business plans?


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TOPIC: where to get cheap ed hardy tshirt,ed hardy hoodies and CHRISTIAN
AUDIGIER t and cheap jeans
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 7:18 am
From: bapedirect01@gmail.com


i want to share my supplier to everyone.the website is http://www.bapedirect.com
i bought lots of stuff each month from it.

i found so many brand there,like bape,bbc,lacoste,polo,ed hardy,CA,red
monkey,nike air force one,nike jordans,ice cream,adidas,A&F,TRUE
RELIGION,Prada,Gino Green Global,Coogi,NY caps,ARTFUL DODGER and so
on,it make me fantastic!!!

its good seller.and thousands of brand clothes,footwear,handbags
there!!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 7:20 am
From: bapedirect01@gmail.com


i want to share my supplier to everyone.the website is http://www.bapedirect.com
i bought lots of stuff each month from it.

i found so many brand there,like bape,bbc,lacoste,polo,ed hardy,CA,red
monkey,nike air force one,nike jordans,ice cream,adidas,A&F,TRUE
RELIGION,Prada,Gino Green Global,Coogi,NY caps,ARTFUL DODGER and so
on,it make me fantastic!!!

its good seller.and thousands of brand clothes,footwear,handbags
there!!

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 9:36 am
From: clams_casino


bapedirect01@gmail.com wrote:

>i want to share my supplier to everyone.
>


Cool. Do you provide yourself with a discount when you buy off your own
site?


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TOPIC: Indian Recipes Paradise
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/cc0bb54be854b4df?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 7:26 am
From: webmaster@indianonlinerecipes.com


Search through our massive collection of authentic Indian Recipes
from
every part of India and from around the world. You no need to be a
chef to start indian cooking.

for more log on to www.indianonlinerecipes.com



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TOPIC: Minimum 1600$ Every Time You Do It!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3c0ee2ecf652b1f2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 8:39 am
From: Sara Brown


Hello.

This Is Easiest Way To Make Money On Ebay Without Selling Anything.
You Are Guaranteed At Least 1600$/800£ Every Time You Do It. You Can't
Go Wrong With This - 100% Guaranteed!

Have A Look: http://www.onesimplemethod.com

Thank You And All The Best

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 8:40 am
From: Sara Brown


Hello.

This Is Easiest Way To Make Money On Ebay Without Selling Anything.
You Are Guaranteed At Least 1600$/800£ Every Time You Do It. You Can't
Go Wrong With This - 100% Guaranteed!

Have A Look: http://www.onesimplemethod.com

Thank You And All The Best


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TOPIC: Currency for the Blind
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/22451e91d112bb3f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 8:58 am
From: Cheapo Groovo


The USA is way behind the rest of the globe - but that is true in high
speed rail, alternative fuels, and infrastructure

This is an excellent report discussing Currency Features for Visually
Impaired People
http://books.nap.edu/html/currency/appendixd.html


http://www.cheapogroovo.com


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TOPIC: ero magazines
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1f27090466b5bfcd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 9:17 am
From: yura


http://ero-mag.net


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TOPIC: Thoughts on SUV Purchase...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b131b24652af00b0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, May 21 2008 10:22 am
From: Cindy Hamilton


On May 20, 6:21 pm, Cheapo Groovo <c...@nospam.com> wrote:
> In article <6c5f6d1f-d1fe-4e2c-805e-690c36da81b3
> @l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, r...@shell.core.com says...> On May 18, 12:34 pm, "Joe" <really-faked-but-wo...@yunx.com> wrote:
>
> > > I wish we could go that direction...  But the wife is set on a non-minivan
> > > so you know how that goes...
>
> > The Hybrid Highlander would be the safest option, but if you are
> > looking at cost, look at the Kia Rondo or Mazda5.
>
> > --
> >    Ron
>
> Buy a bike instead

You seem to have forgotten that the OP said his wife would be hauling
3-5 kids around in the SUV.

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