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* MSN article: "Will our kids be dumb & broke?" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c39bfb1f5c839fe6?hl=en
* Mandated debt relief for quake victims - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Poverty in California... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df52112e775185a1?hl=en
* Just a few drops of clorox in your water is all you need. - 1 messages, 1
author
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* All great sale deals and fun news in 1-page! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/10c2cc73424e2282?hl=en
* MAKE MONEY WITHOUT PAYPAL!!!!!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: MSN article: "Will our kids be dumb & broke?"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c39bfb1f5c839fe6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 5:20 pm
From: jtnospam@yahoo.com
On May 27, 3:17 pm, The Real Bev <bashley101+use...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seerialmom wrote:
> > On May 27, 11:46 am, jtnos...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >> ...Between brain-dead NEA teachers that can't be fired,
> >> welfare parents, and the Republican example of bailing out Bear
> >> Stearns and other Wall St. corporate welfare titans for failure while
> >> their failed execs retire with their zillion dollar golden parachute
> >> pensions, it is more or less hopeless. With the Feds mortgageing our
> >> future by financing a stupid war, and the dems about to break what is
> >> left of the bank with socialized medicine, it is no wonder that people
> >> live for the moment and ignore the future that they have no control
> >> over anyway.-Jitney
>
> > That just about covers the whole USA there...did you leave anyone out?
>
> Yes. The whole entertainment industry that distracts us from reality.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ********************************************************************
> Organized people will never know the sheer joyous ecstasy of finding
> something that was believed to have been irretrievably lost.
> -- D. Stern
Oh, yes, entertainment. We can't paddle them for misbehavior, that is
criminal abuse, so instead they form their souls around games like
"Grand Theft Auto", TV shows such as Sluts and the City, and
celebrites such as Paris Hilton. They have no work ethic, Manual Labor
is the Mexican illegal alien that dad hires to do the yardwork. We
have seen the enemy, and it is us. -Jitney
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TOPIC: Mandated debt relief for quake victims
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9c3e0c312204a189?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 7:12 pm
From: PaPaPeng
On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:03:24 -0500, "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> wrote:
>
>The government also told citizen that if they lost a child in the quake,
>they could have another without being penalized.
>What big hearts your people have.
I am not quite sure if your comment is meant as a compliment or a
sneer but I'll take it as a compliment. China's one child policy has
many unintended consequences. But I think everyone agrees that with
1.3 billion people with rising consumer consumption as the country
prospers it will be disastrous for China and the world to have any
more people. Yet we come across demographic projections that China's
population will stabilize at 1.6 billion by 2030, a time horizon
within our lifetimes. That's around 300 million more, the size of the
entire population of the US or the EU today. There is no alternative
but to enforce strict population control in China. The alarm is even
with this strict control China's population will still reach that 2030
projection. No religious objection, no personal or philosophical
protest about the sancity of life can change that equation and the
folly of more mouths to feed.
The one child policy in China has very personal and tragic
consequences. When the schools crumbled upon them and wiped out whole
generations of children the pain felt with the death of each child is
triply multiplied. On each child's shoulders is carried the sole hope
of two parents and four grandparents. Therefore the concession of
having another child is no small concession. But for many it will
come too late in their lives to bear a child again.
Those orphans in the shelters will not suffer from want of support.
They will quickly find willing and grateful adoptive parents in their
hometown and all over China. It is now two weeks after the disaster.
The evidence is very hopeful and inspiring. The whole country has
pulled together to mitigate the human disaster. Look at the videoa
and the photos. The grief is personal and quickly put aside in their
determination to live and put the disaster behind them. Take a look
at those children again. They do not come across as being traumatized
and psychologically scarred. They have the resilience to move ahead
without missing a beat. Before the year is out the debris will be
cleared. Before the year is out rebuilding will have put up many of
the structures needed to service a thriving society. By three years
your will have brand new roads, bridges, the infrastructures for brand
new cities, towns and villages for more than a hundred million people.
By then you will not have known that the whole countryside had been
levelled just three years before.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 8:41 pm
From: The Real Bev
PaPaPeng wrote:
> ...By three years
> your will have brand new roads, bridges, the infrastructures for brand
> new cities, towns and villages for more than a hundred million people.
> By then you will not have known that the whole countryside had been
> levelled just three years before.
Now tell us about why there is going to be a huge oversupply of Chinese
men and shortage of Chinese women in the not-too-distant future.
--
Cheers, Bev
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If violence isn't solving the problem, you're not using enough of it.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 9:10 pm
From: PaPaPeng
On Tue, 27 May 2008 20:41:45 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>PaPaPeng wrote:
>
>> ...By three years
>> your will have brand new roads, bridges, the infrastructures for brand
>> new cities, towns and villages for more than a hundred million people.
>> By then you will not have known that the whole countryside had been
>> levelled just three years before.
>
>Now tell us about why there is going to be a huge oversupply of Chinese
>men and shortage of Chinese women in the not-too-distant future.
That is the other unintended consequence. I don't have the answer.
But girls will be much more in demand and will get education and
employment opportunites less available to men. That is a major
consideration in life. A child is the social insurance support for the
parent in old age. If you look at the videos and photos again there
are relatively few young adults. Most of them have already moved to
the big cities as migrant workers. The damage was mostly in the
smaller towns and villages. There should be some interesting reports
out of China once the dust settles.
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TOPIC: Poverty in California...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df52112e775185a1?hl=en
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Date: Tues, May 27 2008 7:13 pm
From: chriseric777@hotmail.com
Food and gas prices have risen, and so has hunger, both physical and
spiritual in our community. We continue to see an increase in single
mothers with children in extreme poverty, often on the verge of
homelessness. At Redding Loaves and Fishes we believe the world is not
looking for a better sermon on Christian Love, but a better
demonstration of it.
We are against practices and laws that unfairly single out homeless
people and criminalize them for everyday living and life-sustaining
activites.
Sometime in 2007 in Redding and Shasta County, California ...
3,316 total individuals representing 1,986 households were homeless at
some point during the year and
2,332 total individuals representing 939 households were imminently at-
risk of becoming homeless.
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of becoming homeless.
*The total of homeless and at-risk children was 2,087.
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TOPIC: Just a few drops of clorox in your water is all you need.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 7:33 pm
From: "Nicik Name"
Save money..........
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TOPIC: All great sale deals and fun news in 1-page!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/10c2cc73424e2282?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 10:18 pm
From: John
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click on the Deals.
And funny stuff:
http://sitscape.com/topic/funny
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TOPIC: MAKE MONEY WITHOUT PAYPAL!!!!!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/be802b3170a3de55?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, May 27 2008 10:54 pm
From: Wendell Way
On May 27, 9:53 am, leroycomst...@verizon.net wrote:
> I looked at it for over two months, and then I said:
> "It's only $7...I have to be nuts not to do it".
So you spent $7 on something that can get you slapped
with $1 million in FINES and/or 30 years behind bars?
Bad gamble, sucker.
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