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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 2:32 pm
From: max
In article <0sednTrXCs2RS8bVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Bob" <ma@trix.net> wrote:
> "max" :
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >> ...
> >> HHO increases mileage simply because an automobile is only about 20-30%
> >> efficient.
> >
> > Your next assignment is to make a logical connection between the
> > elements of the sentence above.
>
> Your next assignment is to quit acting like a pedantic grade school
> teacher who doesn't know anything outside his limited range of experience.
gosh, i almost forgot, because it was so long ago. Almost 3 decades ...
see, i've _actually_ done the experiment. I used to use my very own
highly enriched U235 reactor to split water and fed the resultant gases
into a pair of diesel engines. Did it myself, regularly. Even wrote
down the data.
Yep, i got about 3% more power out of the diesels. Sad to say, but that
3% gain was grossly outpaced by the reactor power necessary for
hydrolysis.
So... my "limited" experience is exactly congruous with the topic at
hand. I've run hydrocarbon ICE's on an HHO boost. I know _exactly_ what
happens.
.max
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:14 pm
From: imascot
Kompu Kid <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4b64f4de-f75a-4ea2-a877-21c5d54ca678
@q27g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
> Hello All:
>
> I am about to purchase a Chevrolet remote for the doors to replace my
> broken one.
>
> How do I program it to work with my door? Do I go to the dealer? Can a
> lock smith do it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Deguza
http://chevrolet.justanswer.com/chevy/o2bp-reprogram-new-remote-alarm
.
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TOPIC: Sleazy Wall Steet/Chamber of Commerce bloats tout offshore drilling.
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:30 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
> >>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
> >>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
> >> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
> >> up what that guy said?
>
> >> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>
> > then, why have the cons
>
> That would be NO CITE, NO EVIDENCE, NOTHING at all.
>
> As predicted.
as predicted, a different handle. snicker. evidence, someone like
you needs none. you already know what the articles states is true.
== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:32 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> > wrote:
> >> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
>
> >>news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
> >>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
> >>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
> >>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
> >>>> up what that guy said?
> >>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
> >>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
> >>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
> >>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
> >>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
> >>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
> >> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
> >> killfiles.
>
> >> Here's all you need to know about her:
>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>
> >> HTH,
> >> Jim
>
> > yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
> > not replace reality.
>
> Yet when pressed for facts and cites you folded like a cheap card table,
> you motherfucking lying piece of shit.
you already have them crank,
what is the definition of a crank? one who gives out advise that
makes no sense at all.
what is the definition of a crank? one who accepts, or embraces
advise that makes no sense at all.
definition of a cult:Confusing Doctrine Encouraging blind acceptance
and rejection of logic through complex lectures on an incomprehensible
doctrine, Chanting and Singing Eliminating non-cult ideas through
group repetition of mind-narrowing chants or phrases
== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 4:35 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 19, 11:15 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 19, 5:29 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 1:01 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:15 -0700, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:13 -0700, "Clave"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no Chinese rigs drilling on the Cuba side of the Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strait according people in our government. But there is some truth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your MIMBY prosecution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You believe our government? There's your problem right there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85% of America's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key West, Fla. The U.S. Minerals Management Service says that the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted areas contain 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet of natural gas."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080609/bs_ibd_ibd/20080609issues01
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an unsourced op-ed, and it's full of shit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>> at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> territory to domestic production.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber
> >>>>>>>>>>>> of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies
> >>>>>>>>>>>> are."
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think Congress should haul Cheney's but in front of a committee and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> roast him for lying again. These grandiose lies serve as a great
> >>>>>>>>>>>> entre to hold up how much he personally is liable for lying us into
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq. he repeatedly told lies on the Sunday talking heads programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>> even after the intelligence agencies told him thy were lies.
> >>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Seems Cheney realized his liability and "corrected" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/china_starts_oil_drilling.html
> >>>>>>>>>> The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore
> >>>>>>>>>> and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West,
> >>>>>>>>>> Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who
> >>>>>>>>>> controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making
> >>>>>>>>>> deals to sell his country?s oil to China, oil that is currently coming
> >>>>>>>>>> to the United States.
> >>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized
> >>>>>>>>>> the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United
> >>>>>>>>>> States.
> >>>>>>>>>> SLANT DRILLING
> >>>>>>>>>> There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to
> >>>>>>>>>> slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into
> >>>>>>>>>> U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.
> >>>>>>>>>> China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then
> >>>>>>>>>> make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened
> >>>>>>>>>> an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there
> >>>>>>>>>> is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the
> >>>>>>>>>> Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a
> >>>>>>>>>> massive port facility and airfield.
> >>>>>>>>>> With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of
> >>>>>>>>>> Castro.
> >>>>>>>>>> Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S.
> >>>>>>>>>> restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida
> >>>>>>>>>> Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil
> >>>>>>>>>> drilling off the state?s coasts could also be eased.
> >>>>>>>>> now there is a name that you can count on to be truthful,
> >>>>>>>> No factual rebuttal, thanks for taking the bait- hook,line and sinker.
> >>>>>>>> You stupid piece of shit.
> >>>>>>>http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A156914
> >>>>>>> Lifetime achievement
> >>>>>>> This year's Lifetime Achievement Dud goes to part-time senator/full-
> >>>>>>> time special interest shill Larry Craig,
> >>>>>> That's it?
> >>>>>> You took the bait hook line and sinker!
> >>>>>> You moron.
> >>>>> if you think larry is honest,
> >>>> Can you refute the legislation introduced?
> >>>> No?
> >>>> Then STFU.
> >>> they should be forced into
> >> SHADDUP ASSHOLE!
>
> > snicker!
>
> DROP DAMNED DEAD YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!
you still have not refuted what the democrats have stated that there
are millions of acres of leased land standing idle crank:)
== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:48 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>>> up what that guy said?
>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>>> then, why have the cons
>> That would be NO CITE, NO EVIDENCE, NOTHING at all.
>>
>> As predicted.
>
> as predicted, a different handle.
No facts, you simply whimped out, you lying scumbag.
== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:48 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>>>>> up what that guy said?
>>>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>>>>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
>>>>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
>>>>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
>>>>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
>>>>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
>>>> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
>>>> killfiles.
>>>> Here's all you need to know about her:
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Jim
>>> yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
>>> not replace reality.
>> Yet when pressed for facts and cites you folded like a cheap card table,
>> you motherfucking lying piece of shit.
>
> you already have them
Not from you, assburp!
== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 6:50 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 19, 11:15 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:29 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 1:01 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:15 -0700, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:13 -0700, "Clave"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no Chinese rigs drilling on the Cuba side of the Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strait according people in our government. But there is some truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your MIMBY prosecution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You believe our government? There's your problem right there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85% of America's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key West, Fla. The U.S. Minerals Management Service says that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted areas contain 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet of natural gas."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080609/bs_ibd_ibd/20080609issues01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an unsourced op-ed, and it's full of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> territory to domestic production.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Congress should haul Cheney's but in front of a committee and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roast him for lying again. These grandiose lies serve as a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entre to hold up how much he personally is liable for lying us into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq. he repeatedly told lies on the Sunday talking heads programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even after the intelligence agencies told him thy were lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Seems Cheney realized his liability and "corrected" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/china_starts_oil_drilling.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore
>>>>>>>>>>>> and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who
>>>>>>>>>>>> controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making
>>>>>>>>>>>> deals to sell his country?s oil to China, oil that is currently coming
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized
>>>>>>>>>>>> the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United
>>>>>>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>>>>>>> SLANT DRILLING
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to
>>>>>>>>>>>> slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.
>>>>>>>>>>>> China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then
>>>>>>>>>>>> make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened
>>>>>>>>>>>> an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there
>>>>>>>>>>>> is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a
>>>>>>>>>>>> massive port facility and airfield.
>>>>>>>>>>>> With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Castro.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>> Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil
>>>>>>>>>>>> drilling off the state?s coasts could also be eased.
>>>>>>>>>>> now there is a name that you can count on to be truthful,
>>>>>>>>>> No factual rebuttal, thanks for taking the bait- hook,line and sinker.
>>>>>>>>>> You stupid piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>> http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A156914
>>>>>>>>> Lifetime achievement
>>>>>>>>> This year's Lifetime Achievement Dud goes to part-time senator/full-
>>>>>>>>> time special interest shill Larry Craig,
>>>>>>>> That's it?
>>>>>>>> You took the bait hook line and sinker!
>>>>>>>> You moron.
>>>>>>> if you think larry is honest,
>>>>>> Can you refute the legislation introduced?
>>>>>> No?
>>>>>> Then STFU.
>>>>> they should be forced into
>>>> SHADDUP ASSHOLE!
>>> snicker!
>> DROP DAMNED DEAD YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!
>
> you still have not refuted what the democrats have stated that there
> are millions of acres of leased land standing idle crank:)
Here's a clue, oil companies paid big $$ for those leases, do you
believe they'd let them sit idle if there was oil to be had at today's
prices?
Just screw some damned brains in and try and logically ponder things,
you detestable assburp.
== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:57 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 8:48 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
> >>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
> >>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
> >>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
> >>>> up what that guy said?
> >>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
> >>> then, why have the cons
> >> That would be NO CITE, NO EVIDENCE, NOTHING at all.
>
> >> As predicted.
>
> > as predicted, a different handle.
>
> No facts, you simply whimped out, you lying scumbag.
snicker, nothing i see. at least you have not changed handles again,
how many do you have sweetie:)
== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 7:59 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 8:48 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
> >>>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
> >>>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
> >>>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
> >>>>>> up what that guy said?
> >>>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
> >>>>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
> >>>>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
> >>>>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
> >>>>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
> >>>>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
> >>>> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
> >>>> killfiles.
> >>>> Here's all you need to know about her:
> >>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
> >>>> HTH,
> >>>> Jim
> >>> yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
> >>> not replace reality.
> >> Yet when pressed for facts and cites you folded like a cheap card table,
> >> you motherfucking lying piece of shit.
>
> > you already have them
>
> Not from you, assburp!
snicker, still nothing. why aren't you going after the democrats for
their alleged lying? because they are not, ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!
== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 8:05 pm
From: Video61@tcq.net
On Jun 20, 8:50 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> > On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
> >> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>> On Jun 19, 11:15 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:29 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 1:01 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:15 -0700, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:13 -0700, "Clave"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no Chinese rigs drilling on the Cuba side of the Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strait according people in our government. But there is some truth
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your MIMBY prosecution.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You believe our government? There's your problem right there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85% of America's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key West, Fla. The U.S. Minerals Management Service says that the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted areas contain 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet of natural gas."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080609/bs_ibd_ibd/20080609issues01
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an unsourced op-ed, and it's full of shit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> territory to domestic production.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Congress should haul Cheney's but in front of a committee and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> roast him for lying again. These grandiose lies serve as a great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> entre to hold up how much he personally is liable for lying us into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq. he repeatedly told lies on the Sunday talking heads programs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> even after the intelligence agencies told him thy were lies.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Seems Cheney realized his liability and "corrected" it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/china_starts_oil_drilling.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who
> >>>>>>>>>>>> controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making
> >>>>>>>>>>>> deals to sell his country?s oil to China, oil that is currently coming
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to the United States.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United
> >>>>>>>>>>>> States.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> SLANT DRILLING
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into
> >>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then
> >>>>>>>>>>>> make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened
> >>>>>>>>>>>> an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> massive port facility and airfield.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Castro.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil
> >>>>>>>>>>>> drilling off the state?s coasts could also be eased.
> >>>>>>>>>>> now there is a name that you can count on to be truthful,
> >>>>>>>>>> No factual rebuttal, thanks for taking the bait- hook,line and sinker.
> >>>>>>>>>> You stupid piece of shit.
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A156914
> >>>>>>>>> Lifetime achievement
> >>>>>>>>> This year's Lifetime Achievement Dud goes to part-time senator/full-
> >>>>>>>>> time special interest shill Larry Craig,
> >>>>>>>> That's it?
> >>>>>>>> You took the bait hook line and sinker!
> >>>>>>>> You moron.
> >>>>>>> if you think larry is honest,
> >>>>>> Can you refute the legislation introduced?
> >>>>>> No?
> >>>>>> Then STFU.
> >>>>> they should be forced into
> >>>> SHADDUP ASSHOLE!
> >>> snicker!
> >> DROP DAMNED DEAD YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!
>
> > you still have not refuted what the democrats have stated that there
> > are millions of acres of leased land standing idle crank:)
>
> Here's a clue, oil companies paid big $$ for those leases,
so you do admit that there are leases. we are making progress:)
do you
> believe they'd let them sit idle if there was oil to be had at today's
> prices?
>
why yes, how do you think they manufactured this crisis in the first
place. you know nothing about economics i see. scarcity is the friend
of the free market.
> Just screw some damned brains in and try and logically ponder things,
> you detestable assburp.
supply and demand evades you. quite embarrassing yourself.
== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 8:09 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 8:48 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>>>>> up what that guy said?
>>>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>>>>> then, why have the cons
>>>> That would be NO CITE, NO EVIDENCE, NOTHING at all.
>>>> As predicted.
>>> as predicted, a different handle.
>> No facts, you simply whimped out, you lying scumbag.
>
> snicker, nothing i see.
Nothing you say or add.
== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 8:09 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 8:48 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 20, 1:03 am, "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> <Vide...@tcq.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:f840a28f-6dc3-4ffe-88eb-1f5ce402a1f4@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 11:14 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> we know they are sitting on untapped oil, shill.
>>>>>>>>>> At Gull Island, right...conspiracy KOOK!
>>>>>>>>> the non drilling of millions of acres,
>>>>>>>> Do you have some independent data sources or corroborative urls to back
>>>>>>>> up what that guy said?
>>>>>>>> I mean, really, just go for it, put them here:______________________.
>>>>>>> then, why have the cons not called the democrats out when they stated
>>>>>>> it? the democrats announced that charge right in front of the whole
>>>>>>> world. so, refute it. also refute the oil companies statements that
>>>>>>> they do not even have the resources to develop what they already have
>>>>>>> leased, yet, they are wanting more, eh, shill.
>>>>>> That's our Spammy. Changes nyms daily, thinks it keeps her out of
>>>>>> killfiles.
>>>>>> Here's all you need to know about her:
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crapflooding
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>> yea, i have seen the creep all over the net for years. insults will
>>>>> not replace reality.
>>>> Yet when pressed for facts and cites you folded like a cheap card table,
>>>> you motherfucking lying piece of shit.
>>> you already have them
>> Not from you, assburp!
>
> snicker, still nothing.
Agreed, you have nothing.
== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 8:14 pm
From: edelbrock
Video61@tcq.net wrote:
> On Jun 20, 8:50 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>> On Jun 20, 1:56 pm, edelbrock <m...@i.fold> wrote:
>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 19, 11:15 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 6:17 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 5:29 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 1:01 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vide...@tcq.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 19, 12:38 pm, singularity <r...@kurtz.wheel> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:22:15 -0700, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:25:13 -0700, "Clave"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are no Chinese rigs drilling on the Cuba side of the Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strait according people in our government. But there is some truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your MIMBY prosecution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You believe our government? There's your problem right there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The U.S. Congress has voted consistently to keep 85% of America's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offshore oil and gas off-limits, while China and Cuba drill 60 miles from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Key West, Fla. The U.S. Minerals Management Service says that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restricted areas contain 86 billion barrels of oil and 420 trillion cubic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feet of natural gas."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080609/bs_ibd_ibd/20080609issues01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an unsourced op-ed, and it's full of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/40776.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet no one can prove that the Chinese are drilling anywhere off Cuba's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shoreline. The China-Cuba connection is "akin to urban legend," said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida who opposes drilling off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the coast of his state but who backs exploration in ANWR.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "China is not drilling in Cuba's Gulf of Mexico waters, period," said
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge Pinon, an energy fellow with the Center for Hemispheric Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the University of Miami and an expert in oil exploration in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gulf of Mexico. Martinez cited Pinon's research when he took to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate floor Wednesday to set the record straight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even so, the Chinese-drilling-in-Cuba legend has gained momentum and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has been swept up in Republican arguments to open up more U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> territory to domestic production.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vice President Dick Cheney, in a speech Wednesday to the U.S. Chamber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Commerce, picked up the refrain. Cheney quoted a column by George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will, who wrote last week that "drilling is under way 60 miles off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. The drilling is being done by China, in cooperation with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuba, which is drilling closer to South Florida than U.S. companies
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Congress should haul Cheney's but in front of a committee and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roast him for lying again. These grandiose lies serve as a great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entre to hold up how much he personally is liable for lying us into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iraq. he repeatedly told lies on the Sunday talking heads programs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even after the intelligence agencies told him thy were lies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Seems Cheney realized his liability and "corrected" it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/china_starts_oil_drilling.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Chinese have forged a deal with Cuban leader Fidel Castro to explore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tap into massive oil reserves almost within sight of Key West,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida. At the same time, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls the largest oil reserves in the Western Hemisphere, is making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deals to sell his country?s oil to China, oil that is currently coming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the United States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, a new left-wing populist regime in Bolivia has nationalized
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the natural gas industry, threatening to cut off supplies to the United
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SLANT DRILLING
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are new reports out circulating that Chinese firms are planning to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slant drill off the Cuban coast near the Florida Straits, tapping into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. oil reserves that are estimated at 4.6 billion to 9.3 billion barrels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> China is eager to tap into oil reserves in the Florida Straits and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a deal with Castro to control it. The Chinese have already reopened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an abandoned Russian oil refinery in Cuba. Much of the gas refined there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is believed to be destined for Freeport in the Bahamas, where the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese, through front company Hutchison-Whampoa, has developed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> massive port facility and airfield.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the refinery reopened and expanded it will also meet the needs of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Castro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho) has introduced legislation to ease U.S.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restrictions that prevent dealing with Cuba to drill in the Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straits. It is hoped that Florida regulations that prevent U.S. oil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> drilling off the state?s coasts could also be eased.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now there is a name that you can count on to be truthful,
>>>>>>>>>>>> No factual rebuttal, thanks for taking the bait- hook,line and sinker.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You stupid piece of shit.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.boiseweekly.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A156914
>>>>>>>>>>> Lifetime achievement
>>>>>>>>>>> This year's Lifetime Achievement Dud goes to part-time senator/full-
>>>>>>>>>>> time special interest shill Larry Craig,
>>>>>>>>>> That's it?
>>>>>>>>>> You took the bait hook line and sinker!
>>>>>>>>>> You moron.
>>>>>>>>> if you think larry is honest,
>>>>>>>> Can you refute the legislation introduced?
>>>>>>>> No?
>>>>>>>> Then STFU.
>>>>>>> they should be forced into
>>>>>> SHADDUP ASSHOLE!
>>>>> snicker!
>>>> DROP DAMNED DEAD YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!
>>> you still have not refuted what the democrats have stated that there
>>> are millions of acres of leased land standing idle crank:)
>> Here's a clue, oil companies paid big $$ for those leases,
>
> so you do admit that there are leases. we are making progress:)
You fucking moron, I never once intimated there were not.
Wake up, asshat.
> do you
>> believe they'd let them sit idle if there was oil to be had at today's
>> prices?
>>
>
> why yes, how do you think they manufactured this crisis in the first
> place.
Right...black helicopter alert!
> you know nothing about economics i see. scarcity is the friend
> of the free market.
If they have the oil they will produce it to pay for the leases.
>> Just screw some damned brains in and try and logically ponder things,
>> you detestable assburp.
>
> supply and demand evades you. quite embarrassing yourself.
Paranoiac conspiracy defines you - provide some facts, ah well, no
matter - right back to it:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/analysispaper/congr/
The Energy Information Administration (EIA) collects1 and reports2 total
U.S. crude oil and natural gas reserves. Moreover, the Form EIA-23
survey requires participants to report nonproducing reserves, which can
be used to infer producing reserves, by subtracting nonproducing
reserves from total reserves.
Crude Oil Reserve Trends
nonproducing crude oil reserves grew steadily from 1985 through 2004
rather than growing within a relatively limited time frame like natural
gas. Total nonproducing crude oil reserves grew from 2.6 billion
barrels at year-end 1985 to 5.6 billion barrels at year-end 2004. At
year-end 1985, U.S. nonproducing crude oil reserves were 10 percent of
total crude oil reserves; by year-end 2004, they were 26 percent of
total crude oil reserves.
Offshore Crude Oil Reserves
The Offshore Gulf of Mexico is the only region to post an increase in
total crude oil reserves, although much of this increase was due to the
growth in nonproducing crude oil reserves. Offshore Gulf of Mexico
nonproducing crude oil reserves grew from 0.8 billion barrels at
year-end 1985 to 2.9 billion barrels at year-end 2004. The Offshore
Gulf of Mexico's increase in nonproducing reserves largely offset the
growth in this region's total crude oil reserves so that Offshore Gulf
of Mexico producing crude oil reserves increased only slightly from 1.5
billion barrels at year-end 1985 to 1.7 billion barrels at year-end 2004.
A more detailed examination of Offshore Gulf of Mexico nonproducing
crude oil reserves indicates that this region's increase in nonproducing
crude oil reserves is largely a Louisiana-Federal Offshore phenomenon
(Figure 5).9 At year-end 2004, the Louisiana-Federal Offshore region
accounted for 2.7 billion barrels of out of the 5.6 billion barrels of
U.S. nonproducing crude oil reserves, which was 48 percent of the U.S.
nonproducing crude oil reserves.
Onshore Crude Oil Reserves
Nonproducing crude oil reserves increased in most onshore regions. The
largest increase in onshore nonproducing crude oil reserves occurred in
the Southwest, which increased by 580 million barrels, going from 140
million barrels at year-end 1985 to 720 million barrels at year-end
2004. The Southwest region is also notable for posting the largest
volumetric drop in onshore producing crude oil reserves, which declined
from 5.7 billion barrels at year-end 1985 to 3.7 billion barrels at
year-end 2004. The Rocky Mountain region posted the next largest
increase in onshore lower 48 nonproducing crude oil reserves, by
increasing 300 million barrels from year-end 1985 through year-end 2004.
Nonproducing crude oil reserves increased in most onshore regions. The
largest increase in onshore nonproducing crude oil reserves occurred in
the Southwest, which increased by 580 million barrels, going from 140
million barrels at year-end 1985 to 720 million barrels at year-end
2004. The Southwest region is also notable for posting the largest
volumetric drop in onshore producing crude oil reserves, which declined
from 5.7 billion barrels at year-end 1985 to 3.7 billion barrels at
year-end 2004. The Rocky Mountain region posted the next largest
increase in onshore lower 48 nonproducing crude oil reserves, by
increasing 300 million barrels from year-end 1985 through year-end 2004.
Potential Causes for the Growth in Nonproducing Crude Oil and Natural
Gas Reserves
Onshore, the growth in nonproducing crude oil and natural gas reserves
could reflect the development constraints caused by environmental
regulations and litigation. Some of this litigation is by parties
wishing to stop drilling and production on State and Federal lands. Some
of this litigation is by surface owners who do not own the crude oil and
natural gas mineral rights, and therefore have no direct financial
incentive to permit crude oil and natural gas drilling and
infrastructure on their land. Instead, the surface owners have a
financial incentive to litigate the drilling and production of crude oil
and natural gas in order to extract as large a rent concession from the
mineral producer as possible.
Offshore, the growth in nonproducing crude oil and natural gas reserves
could reflect an increase in the time required to bring an offshore
project into production, as the crude oil and natural gas industry
progresses from the shallow-water Gulf of Mexico into the deep-water
Gulf. The dramatic rise in Louisiana-Federal Offshore nonproducing
crude oil reserves is consistent with this hypothesis; because most of
the Gulf's deep-water crude oil and natural gas development is occurring
in this region.
Another potential cause for the growing proportion of nonproducing crude
oil and natural gas reserves could be that the crude oil and natural gas
industry might have increasingly relied on improvements in the
collection, processing, and interpretation of seismic data to delineate
the dimensions of newly discovered fields as a substitute for drilling
field delineation wells.10 If new crude oil and natural gas reserves
were increasingly being determined by seismic data rather than by the
existence of producing wells, then this would increase the proportion of
nonproducing crude oil and natural gas reserves relative to total
reserves. There is, however, no direct evidence to confirm whether this
is the case.
Conclusions
The Form EIA-23 survey's collection of nonproducing reserves data
permits an evaluation of those crude oil and natural gas reserves which
are available to the crude oil and natural gas markets, and those crude
oil and natural gas reserves which are not available to the markets, but
which are expected to be available sometime in the future. In this
context, the EIA producing and nonproducing reserve concepts are similar
to, but not equivalent to the SEC definitions of proved developed
reserves and proved undeveloped reserves.
The growth in nonproducing reserves is a phenomenon common to both crude
oil and natural gas from year-end 1985 through year-end 2004 and is
apparent in all the major domestic crude oil and natural gas basins.
There are, however, some significant differences in this phenomenon as
it pertains to crude oil and natural gas.
The increase in nonproducing natural gas reserves occurred over a
relatively short 7 year period (i.e., from year-end 1997 through
year-end 2004), and accounted for 80 percent of the new incremental
growth in total natural gas reserves during this period. In contrast,
the growth in nonproducing crude oil reserves has occurred at a
relatively consistent pace over the 1985 through 2004 period.
The rise in nonproducing crude oil reserves is largely a
Louisiana-Federal Offshore region phenomenon, while the growth in
nonproducing natural gas reserves is largely an onshore lower 48 phenomenon.
The growing proportion of nonproducing crude oil reserves relative to
total crude oil reserves has accelerated the decline in producing crude
oil reserves, whereas the growth in nonproducing natural gas reserves
has served more to limit the growth in producing natural gas reserves.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 5:35 pm
From: Seerialmom
On Jun 19, 4:27 pm, James <jl...@idirect.com> wrote:
> On Jun 19, 3:00 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 19, 7:41 am, NB <nobuy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I took my car in to the dealer for maintenance. They have a free
> > > shuttle that will take you anywhere (like to your job), and then pick
> > > you up when they are done with the maintenance. Should the driver be
> > > tipped? If so, how much?
>
> > I never have...and I didn't see anyone else do it, either. I suppose
> > where I work we figure he's getting a union paycheck so why would we?
> > From what I can tell it's just one of the service advisers, they
> > rotate the van driving.
>
> Depends on the dealership. I've been to hundreds of dealerships as
> aprt of my job, never seen a union one.
>
> First off not many are union. Some hire someone to be the driver -
> usually look for retired people pay them lower.
>
> Sometimes its the parts runner - the guy who picks up parts.
>
> Sometimes its the service advisor.
>
> James
Aren't the service advisers of the big dealerships (not talking about
Joe Schmo's Used Car Corral) union like the mechanics? Maybe not.
But I have known service advisers for major dealerships and the pay
wasn't low. I suppose if I knew for a fact it was a "retiree" doing
this part time to supplement his SS check..I might think more about
tipping the driver.
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Date: Fri, Jun 20 2008 10:04 pm
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