Thursday, July 31, 2008

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* To juice or not. - 7 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb065ec0061ab7cd?hl=en
* Another telemarketer sent me a check - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d7830bae445fcb8?hl=en
* Mayonnaise as frugal head lice remedy! - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c52f0a108edfde98?hl=en
* Fowl Math - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3f704369916fd0d6?hl=en
* Check out Stockhunt.com, turn $150 into $1,000,000. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e320f0a8336e7a8c?hl=en

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TOPIC: To juice or not.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb065ec0061ab7cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 4:09 pm
From: "JR Weiss"


"Dave" <djensen36@cox.net> wrote...

> I have both a standard juicer and also a Vitamix. The standard
juicer takes out all the pulp, and it is great for some juices like
carrots. But, I love making juice drinks and smoothies in the Vitamix
because it just basically liquifies the whole darn kit and kaboodle,
and you get all the fibre and all in a delicious tasting, but thicker,
"juice."

I don't think you need a special "Vitamix" for that. Use a conventional blender
or food processor to "puree" your fruit/veg.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 4:13 pm
From: Abe


>On Jul 30, 6:12 am, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Every now and then I make a nice vege-fruit drink by juicing.  After
>> looking at all the resulting pulp I'm wondering if it's better for my
>> guts to eat all that fruit & veges than to drink the juice.  Perhaps
>> juice is more about a nice drink than good health.
>
>James, I have both a standard juicer and also a Vitamix. The standard
>juicer takes out all the pulp, and it is great for some juices like
>carrots. But, I love making juice drinks and smoothies in the Vitamix
>because it just basically liquifies the whole darn kit and kaboodle,
>and you get all the fibre and all in a delicious tasting, but thicker,
>"juice."
>
>Dave
Really? The vitamix doesn't expel the pulp?

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 4:28 pm
From: Dennis


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:09:45 -0700, "JR Weiss"
<jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote:

>"Dave" <djensen36@cox.net> wrote...
>
>> I have both a standard juicer and also a Vitamix. The standard
>juicer takes out all the pulp, and it is great for some juices like
>carrots. But, I love making juice drinks and smoothies in the Vitamix
>because it just basically liquifies the whole darn kit and kaboodle,
>and you get all the fibre and all in a delicious tasting, but thicker,
>"juice."
>
>I don't think you need a special "Vitamix" for that. Use a conventional blender
>or food processor to "puree" your fruit/veg.

I suppose, just like you can use a screwdriver as a prybar.

My Vitamix will make a smoothie out of a conventional blender.

Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 4:54 pm
From: Brute


On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:26:16 -0700, "JR Weiss"
<jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote:

>Drinking only the juice will leave out a lot of the fiber you would get with the
>fruit itself, so there is a considerable difference.

Personally, I juice because I can't eat enough vegetables, but the
juice is in addition to the vegetables that I do eat. In brief, you
don't have to stop eating fruits and vegetables just because you also
juice. You need the fiber, too.

****
Brute
"Vote McBama!"

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 8:11 pm
From: timeOday


Dennis wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:09:45 -0700, "JR Weiss"
> <jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Dave" <djensen36@cox.net> wrote...
>>
>>> I have both a standard juicer and also a Vitamix. The standard
>> juicer takes out all the pulp, and it is great for some juices like
>> carrots. But, I love making juice drinks and smoothies in the Vitamix
>> because it just basically liquifies the whole darn kit and kaboodle,
>> and you get all the fibre and all in a delicious tasting, but thicker,
>> "juice."
>>
>> I don't think you need a special "Vitamix" for that. Use a conventional blender
>> or food processor to "puree" your fruit/veg.
>
> I suppose, just like you can use a screwdriver as a prybar.
>
> My Vitamix will make a smoothie out of a conventional blender.

For a more frugal quality blender I recommend the Oster Beehive:
<http://www.amazon.com/Oster-4093-008-Beehive-Chrome-Blender/dp/B00006FMT9>

I got mine at Target maybe 4-5 years ago and use it to make a smoothie
with 10-12 solid-frozen ice cubes every few days. It has a metal
transmission and blasts right through them.

I never had any trouble at all with it until recently, when I cranked it
up with ice cubes already packed into the blades. (Not smart, but it
worked 100 times before). A flash, a pop, and it went dead. I took it
apart and all it needed was a new fuse. This was welded in and required
soldering to fix, but now it's like new. The fuse is still the ONLY
part I've ever changed on it.

Now I put the banana and yogurt in before the ice cubes. I still add
all 12 cubes before I start blending and it chugs right through them.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 8:22 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


JR Weiss <jrweiss98155remove@remove.comcast.net> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Every now and then I make a nice vege-fruit drink by juicing.
>>> After looking at all the resulting pulp I'm wondering if it's better
>>> for my guts to eat all that fruit & veges than to drink the juice.
>>
>> Doesnt really make any difference.
>>
>> The main difference is with your jaws/teeth, not your guts.

> Drinking only the juice will leave out a lot of the fiber you would
> get with the fruit itself, so there is a considerable difference.

Yeah, I was thinking about those who just blend the fruit and veg
and drink the entire result. It looks like he did mean juicing them
since he said that. I didnt read his original carefully enough.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 10:20 pm
From: Dave


On Jul 30, 4:13 pm, Abe <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 30, 6:12 am, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> Every now and then I make a nice vege-fruit drink by juicing.  After
> >> looking at all the resulting pulp I'm wondering if it's better for my
> >> guts to eat all that fruit & veges than to drink the juice.  Perhaps
> >> juice is more about a nice drink than good health.
>
> >James, I have both a standard juicer and also a Vitamix. The standard
> >juicer takes out all the pulp, and it is great for some juices like
> >carrots. But, I love making juice drinks and smoothies in the Vitamix
> >because it just basically liquifies the whole darn kit and kaboodle,
> >and you get all the fibre and all in a delicious tasting, but thicker,
> >"juice."
>
> >Dave
>
> Really? The vitamix doesn't expel the pulp?

Hi Abe,

Just like someone else said below my post, the Vitamix is sort of the
"King of Blenders," as it uses a chain saw motor and you can take
literally anything and liquefy it. I'm not kidding -- the wood paddle
that the thing came with got dropped inside when it was making a
smoothie and you couldn't tell the wood from the strawberry juice.

Dave


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TOPIC: Another telemarketer sent me a check
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5d7830bae445fcb8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 4:35 pm
From: The Real Bev


George Grapman wrote:

> Abe wrote:
>>>> How much does CID cost per month?
>>>>
>>> Varies from company to company. I have seen rates from $7 a month to
>>> as much as $3.50, lower if combined with other features.
>> Did you mean from $3.50 a month to as much as $7?
> Yes.

I think I'll save the money and just yell obscenities at the caller.
More therapeutic and a lot cheaper.

I just got a text message on my cell phone from some "benefits" company
wanting me to buy foreign gold. I tracked down the company and sent
them an email demanding $200 for their transgression. Bastards. I was
reluctant to put my cell on the list for fear that assholes would use it
as a DO call list.

I turned them in anyway, even if the phone wasn't previously listed (it
is now). Shitheads. If the company doesn't actually support this and
it was the wild-ass project of one guy, I hope they kill him.

--
Cheers, Bev
==========================================================
"It's no piece of cake, but it sure beats listening to Ted
Kennedy on the Senate floor."
- Jesse Helms describing heart surgery

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 6:14 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <1z0kk.1062$3l5.868@newsfe06.iad>,
The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Shawn Hirn wrote:
>
> > William Souden <souden@nospam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The main bod of this message is a repost but there is one difference
> >> in the latest case. Because they called me on my cell I demanded $200
> >>
> >> This works best if they are in your state.
> >
> > Anything involving telemarketers that involves me picking up the phone
> > is a huge waste of my time. My time is valuable. I simply solve the
> > problem with telemarketers by not picking up my phone unless the
> > caller-id display indicates the call is from someone I know. Problem
> > solved.
>
> How much does CID cost per month?

I have VoIP serve. CID is part of the service package I receive. I pay
around $20 a month for my phone service through Vonage.


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TOPIC: Mayonnaise as frugal head lice remedy!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c52f0a108edfde98?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 5:37 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com


I first heard of this in "The Nation."

From the September 20, 2007 column, "Poverty Is Hazardous to Your
Health":

"The patient, mother of a month-old baby, was crying on the phone
because for the past two days she had been tormented by head lice
(Pediculosis capitis, if you really want to know). A simple problem,
you might think--head lice is endemic among schoolchildren, as many a
parent could tell you--and one that hardly needs a high-powered
medical consultation. You just go to the drugstore, buy a bottle of
Nix (permethrin) over the counter and spend a lot of time with that
little plastic comb. But Nix costs $22.99, and this woman didn't have
it. By then it was Saturday night, and the drugstores in her
neighborhood were closed until Monday. Fortunately, there was an all-
night pharmacy, so Michele prescribed her permethrin, which Medicaid
would pay for."

So in October, someone wrote a letter and said that he/she had had
lice, used relatively cheap mayonnnaise, and it worked like a dream.
Of course, one can get mayo with food stamps if need be.

See here for more.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lice+mayonnaise&btnG=Search

(One person says: "Use the real mayo - NOT Miracle Whip!")

If this works for most cases of lice, it would also help prevent lice
from building up immunities to stronger remedies.

Lenona.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 8:34 pm
From: "MarieD"

<lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1630d456-a43d-4d65-986f-76cf87bf8e46@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=lice+mayonnaise&btnG=Search
>
> (One person says: "Use the real mayo - NOT Miracle Whip!")
>
> If this works for most cases of lice, it would also help prevent lice
> from building up immunities to stronger remedies.

I just used hair conditioner and a comb that comes in lice kits. My daughter
had waist-length curly hair so it was hell to get through it, but it worked
and the other stuff didn't.
Marie

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 10:02 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply


I heard that Vaseline also works well. The point is, it smothers the
lice, sort of like drowning a tick in oil so it will pull out and can
then easily be removed.

lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> So in October, someone wrote a letter and said that he/she had had
> lice, used relatively cheap mayonnnaise, and it worked like a dream.
> Of course, one can get mayo with food stamps if need be.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 10:49 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com


On Jul 31, 1:02 am, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
<samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:
> I heard that Vaseline also works well. The point is, it smothers the
> lice, sort of like drowning a tick in oil so it will pull out and can
> then easily be removed.


How in the world do you get Vaseline OUT of hair - especially long
hair - without a quart of shampoo?

Lenona.


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TOPIC: Fowl Math
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3f704369916fd0d6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 9:21 pm
From: Terri


Can anyone help me figure this out, please?
I paid .99/lb for a chicken and made some broth to freeze
for future use.
My yield was 1.6 lbs of *pure ground chicken meat and 7 full
quarts of broth.
* meaning no bones in the grinder-I handpicked the carcass
so the weight of the meat was just that, meat only and I have
an accurate scale.

The ingredients that went into the broth were from the garden so I can't
for the life of me figure out how to calculate the cost of
the seeds or plants.
That's problem #1.
The bones were used for simmering and later put into the
compost bin.
Water was done by irrigation water shares and by flood so
no pump electricity was used for watering.
The time on my electric range to cook the chicken down was
a total of 5 hours over the course of two days.
I'm not including any of my time spent processing the chicken.
Problem #2 is:
What would the price per pound of the chicken really be
when all is said and done? And would I need to deduct
the cost of the broth from the total?

I should know how to do this and it's driving me crazy.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 31 2008 12:03 am
From: nicksanspam@ece.villanova.edu


Terri <Terri@micron.net> wrote:

>Can anyone help me figure this out, please?

Maybe.

>I paid .99/lb for a chicken and made some broth to freeze
>for future use.

A P pound chicken?

>My yield was 1.6 lbs of *pure ground chicken meat and 7 full
>quarts of broth.

So the cost of the pure chicken was about $0.99P/1.6lb.

>The ingredients that went into the broth were from the garden so I can't
>for the life of me figure out how to calculate the cost of
>the seeds or plants.

The seeds and plants woulda been bought, no?

>Water was done by irrigation water shares and by flood so
>no pump electricity was used for watering.

How do you start a flood?

>The time on my electric range to cook the chicken down was
>a total of 5 hours over the course of two days.

Maybe 5 hours x 200 watts = 1 kWh worth about 10 cents.

>What would the price per pound of the chicken really be
>when all is said and done?

About $(0.10+0.99P)/1.6lb.

>And would I need to deduct the cost of the broth from the total?

No.

>I should know how to do this and it's driving me crazy.

The calculations seem easy enough, but what's the goal? You might compare
the cost of the chicken with the cost of 1.6 pounds of pure chicken from
a deli plus the cost of 7 quarts of chicken broth in cans and calculate
your equivalent hourly wage from that.

Nick


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Date: Wed, Jul 30 2008 11:17 pm
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