Frugal Living: 25 new messages in 13 topics

Tuesday, July 29, 2008

25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Rod Speed, Cute Pierced Twink Giving Head
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6a8e6e539cfb63a9?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2008 11:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye weedy unhappy strumpet, from the extremest upward of thy
head to the descent and dust beneath thy foot, a most toad spotted
traitor, ye gibbered:

> Unlovable rear admiral with desolate one-eyed trouser psychic,
> paralysed acorns, and meagre heinie-highway seeks partial fondo worm
> for turbulent dishonourable discharges.
>
> Email me at mailto:rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 5:23 am
From: Jeff

h wrote:
> "TKM" <noname@no.net> wrote in message
> news:YP_ik.268327$SV4.42520@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7c60478e-0568-4293-bf6f-c6a5f79ecb5a@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 27, 6:46 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>> Arumugham wrote:
>>>> Use cold washes in your washing machine and dry clothes outside of
>>>> washing machine as far as possible.
>>> I thought you people in India washed your clothing in the river.
>> After burning out many CFL bulbs I discovered that if you use them
>> upside down the heat kills the electronics and decreases a 5 year life
>> to a mear several months.
>>
>> Same thing can happen if the CFL is enclosed in a fixture. For maximum
>> life, CFLs should be in open air and burned base down.
>>
>
> Weird. Most of my lights are upside down, in enclosed fixtures, and all of
> the bulbs are CFL. I've never had one last less than 5 years, and most last
> much, much longer.

I don't have any that are enclosed, but almost all of mine are
upside down also. Oddly, I had just had the first CFL burnout in many
years and it was one of the few that was right side up.

With that said, most CFLs should not be used in "Heat hell holes"
such as recessed fixtures.

Jeff
>
>

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 6:01 am
From: James

On Jul 28, 6:29 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:03fd286f-c973-46ea-958e-e5c8b1fd447f@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 27, 2:19 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "TKM" <non...@no.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:YP_ik.268327$SV4.42520@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> > > "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:7c60478e-0568-4293-bf6f-c6a5f79ecb5a@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jul 27, 6:46 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> > >> Arumugham wrote:
> > >> >Use cold washes in your washing machine and dry clothes outside of
> > >> >washing machine as far as possible.
>
> > >> I thought you people in India washed your clothing in the river.
>
> > > After burning out many CFL bulbs I discovered that if you use them
> > > upside down the heat kills the electronics and decreases a 5 year life
> > > to a mear several months.
>
> > > Same thing can happen if the CFL is enclosed in a fixture. For maximum
> > > life, CFLs should be in open air and burned base down.
>
> > Weird. Most of my lights are upside down, in enclosed fixtures, and all of
> > the bulbs are CFL. I've never had one last less than 5 years, and most
> > last
> > much, much longer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You probably don't have them on hours at a time in a hot 80F house.
>
> Sure do. The lights in the kitchen/great room are on all day and we don't
> have AC. It's been pretty steamy here this summer. I do have AC in my work
> building, but I only cool to 80F so I don't sweat on the materials. All
> upside down enclosed CFLs in there, too, and the lights are on at least 12
> hours a day.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are they high wattage GE bulbs?

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 7:04 am
From: "h"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4b21a3f7-0c86-4d6f-a8c1-93797e60cabd@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 28, 6:29 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:03fd286f-c973-46ea-958e-e5c8b1fd447f@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 27, 2:19 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "TKM" <non...@no.net> wrote in message
>
> >news:YP_ik.268327$SV4.42520@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> > > "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:7c60478e-0568-4293-bf6f-c6a5f79ecb5a@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jul 27, 6:46 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> > >> Arumugham wrote:
> > >> >Use cold washes in your washing machine and dry clothes outside of
> > >> >washing machine as far as possible.
>
> > >> I thought you people in India washed your clothing in the river.
>
> > > After burning out many CFL bulbs I discovered that if you use them
> > > upside down the heat kills the electronics and decreases a 5 year life
> > > to a mear several months.
>
> > > Same thing can happen if the CFL is enclosed in a fixture. For maximum
> > > life, CFLs should be in open air and burned base down.
>
> > Weird. Most of my lights are upside down, in enclosed fixtures, and all
> > of
> > the bulbs are CFL. I've never had one last less than 5 years, and most
> > last
> > much, much longer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You probably don't have them on hours at a time in a hot 80F house.
>
> Sure do. The lights in the kitchen/great room are on all day and we don't
> have AC. It's been pretty steamy here this summer. I do have AC in my work
> building, but I only cool to 80F so I don't sweat on the materials. All
> upside down enclosed CFLs in there, too, and the lights are on at least 12
> hours a day.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are they high wattage GE bulbs?

Home Depot cheapo floods (15/75).

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TOPIC: 357 button batteries.....where frugal?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4b734feb2b19c623?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 1:13 am
From: Jim

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:48:33 -0700 (PDT), "carkenord@juno.com"
<carkenord@juno.com> wrote:

>It seems that my household uses a lot of the little 357 batteries.
>
>Where is likely the most frugal place to buy a recognizable brand of
>357 battery?
>
>Walmart? Walgreens? Radio Shack? Any other?
>
>What's been your buying experience with these specific batteries?
>
>Thank you...... Lee

dx sells 50 of them for US$4.04

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.60

Jim
www.inghamcam.info

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 11:23 am
From: ranck@vt.edu

carkenord@juno.com <carkenord@juno.com> wrote:
> It seems that my household uses a lot of the little 357 batteries.

> Where is likely the most frugal place to buy a recognizable brand of
> 357 battery?

> Walmart? Walgreens? Radio Shack? Any other?

Recently I found a pack of 8 for $1 at the Dollar Store.
Just the size I needed for the cat exercizer (aka: laser pointer).

Bill Ranck
Blacksburg, Va.

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TOPIC: Chickens kept in cages smaller than an A4 sized sheet of paper all
their lives, other cruelities
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33042f7f43992e94?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 2:09 am
From: balanco01@yahoo.com

http://www.real-reality.com/j/content/view/30/44/lang,en/

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 2:44 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Another lie. The cages are much thicker than that, liar.

balanco01@yahoo.com wrote:

> http://www.real-reality.com/j/content/view/30/44/lang,en/

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 3:57 am
From: MuttonJeff

On Jul 29, 4:09 am, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://www.real-reality.com/j/content/view/30/44/lang,en/

Perhaps you should adopt them and take them home. Not only would they
give you something to do besides sit in your single wide tapping on a
P.C all daybut would provide you with your badly needed companionship
and sex partner.

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TOPIC: U just click. U get more DOLLARS.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f1c85f109a2c8129?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 4:22 am
From: babu

hai...

http://www.sweetcookings.blogspot.com/

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TOPIC: Credit Card Debt Consolidation Loans
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/de8df0a9c168e3c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 5:07 am
From: Debt Advisor

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 5:46 am
From: clams_casino

Debt Advisor wrote:

>Credit card debt consolidation loan combines all the debts of the
>borrower and pays them off. Visit for more information http://www.scamdebtreduction.net
>
>

and who would not want to provide one's financial information to a
spammer in India?

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TOPIC: clothesline
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88c9a73afe4e7729?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 6:14 am
From: James

On Jul 28, 5:32 pm, No <nocod...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 1:48 pm, "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> wrote:
>
> > VERY approximately how long does it take to dry regular clothes on the line?
> > I am having my husband install a clothesline to lessen our reliance on the
> > dryer. I want to know if it is nice in the am, but going to be rainy in the
> > pm, does it make sense to put the clothes out? I am talking order of
> > magnitude here. It could be an our or 12 hours as far as I know!
>
> The other posters mentioned a broad variation of outdoor drying time
> and my experience is the same. I have been hanging up my clothes to
> dry as pften as possible for over 35 years. I even have a couple of
> lengths of short clothesline in the basement for haning things up in
> the winter. It all depends on the humidity. I live in an area where
> there is a significant Amish polulation and they hang their clothes
> out year 'round! One word of caution (and I find this incredibly
> amusing in this day of energy conservation): some neighborhoods/
> developments have what are variously known as "deed restrictions" or
> "deed covenants." If you have one of the aforementioned existing on
> your property, you may be in for some civil action from your
> neighbors. Other typical deed restricitons are: No parking motorhomes
> or trailers in your yard; none of those small steel, utility sheds; or
> no cars regularly parked in your driveway (all of them have to be in
> the garage). Good luck!

The was a lawsuit by a homeowner against restrictions. Based on
energy conservation the EPA made restrictions against clothlines
illegal.

Some things like my bed sheets dry in an hour or two. Bath towels
take several hours even under full sun.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 8:20 am
From: "Stephanie"

Stephanie wrote:
> VERY approximately how long does it take to dry regular clothes on
> the line? I am having my husband install a clothesline to lessen our
> reliance on the dryer. I want to know if it is nice in the am, but
> going to be rainy in the pm, does it make sense to put the clothes
> out? I am talking order of magnitude here. It could be an our or 12
> hours as far as I know!
> Thanks.
>
> S

Thanks all!

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 10:00 am
From: val189

On Jul 28, 1:48 pm, "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> wrote:
I want to know if it is nice in the am, but going to be rainy in the
> pm, does it make sense to put the clothes out?

Not if you're not going to be home to whip them off the line in time.

How about being selective, and just hang the things which a dryer
won't 'enhance', like dishcloths.

Tee shirts? I want 'em outta the DRY-er.

Some things should never go in a dryer - consider a tension rod over
the bathtub where these items can drip dry.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 11:25 am
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 28, 10:48 am, "Stephanie" <h...@noway.net> wrote:
> VERY approximately how long does it take to dry regular clothes on the line?
> I am having my husband install a clothesline to lessen our reliance on the
> dryer. I want to know if it is nice in the am, but going to be rainy in the
> pm, does it make sense to put the clothes out? I am talking order of
> magnitude here. It could be an our or 12 hours as far as I know!
>
> Thanks.
>
> S

Here in the central valley of the West Coast in the USA where
temperatures reach 90+ degrees by 11AM (and very low humidity), I seem
to recall about 2-4 hours drying time for a basic T-shirt. Jeans
would take a bit longer. And I'm sure it would also depend on how
well your washer "wrings" out the clothes.

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TOPIC: WARNING RE PURITAN'S PRIDE SHIPPMENTS
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d7d3e0a5dbac9a4f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 7:06 am
From: "h"

"Jean_Slacter" <JSlacter@concentric.com> wrote in message
news:g6lkei$2bk$1@news.mixmin.net...
> If you do a google search you will find FED_EX has a much better
> reputation than UPS for most users. I would contact the company as you
> obviously have a moron driver delivering to you. I would guess that it was
> an ex UPS driver, but I don't think FED_EX would hire anyone who worked at
> UPS, :-)

I've contacted them numberous times, and the office manager doesn't have a
problem with packages being left in the middle of the driveway. I've just
stopped using suppliers who ship with FedEx ground, so the problem has
pretty much resolved. My UPS guy, however is great! Brings the stuff to the
back door and has even offered to muscle some of the larger items into the
office for me.

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TOPIC: FOOD RECALL: Lobster liver contaminated with potentially fatal levels
of toxins
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8a78e89408882dc7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 7:27 am
From: balanco01@yahoo.com

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jJCB3jCj46AXmkHWoyW95rQqObnQD9273AL84

FDA warns against eating lobster liver

17 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government warned consumers Monday not to eat
the soft, green substance found in the body cavity of lobsters, saying
it may be contaminated with a toxin.

It's still OK to eat the white lobster meat found in the claws and
tails of the undersea delicacy, but the green stuff that most diners
already avoid should definitely be discarded this year, said the Food
and Drug Administration. Known also as tomalley, the substance acts as
the liver and pancreas of the lobster.

A red tide -- or algae bloom -- ranging from Northern New England to
Canada this year has contaminated fishing grounds with high levels of
toxins that cause paralytic shellfish poisoning. The federal warning
follows similar advisories from public health authorities in Maine,
Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Canada.

The warning applies to American lobster, also known as Maine lobster,
which is harvested in Atlantic waters from Canada to South Carolina.

Cooking does not eliminate the toxins, but studies have shown that
even when high levels are present in the tomalley, lobster meat is
usually not affected, the FDA said.

Symptoms of paralytic shell fish poisoning usually appear within two
hours of exposure. They include tingling and numbness of the mouth,
face or neck, muscle weakness, headache and nausea. Anyone who suffers
such symptoms should see a doctor, the FDA said. In rare cases, people
who consume a large amount of toxin can suffer respiratory failure and
death.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 10:09 am
From: James

On Jul 29, 10:27 am, balanc...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jJCB3jCj46AXmkHWoyW95rQqObnQD9273AL84
>
> FDA warns against eating lobster liver
>
> 17 hours ago
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government warned consumers Monday not to eat
> the soft, green substance found in the body cavity of lobsters, saying
> it may be contaminated with a toxin.
>
> It's still OK to eat the white lobster meat found in the claws and
> tails of the undersea delicacy, but the green stuff that most diners
> already avoid should definitely be discarded this year, said the Food
> and Drug Administration. Known also as tomalley, the substance acts as
> the liver and pancreas of the lobster.
>
> A red tide -- or algae bloom -- ranging from Northern New England to
> Canada this year has contaminated fishing grounds with high levels of
> toxins that cause paralytic shellfish poisoning. The federal warning
> follows similar advisories from public health authorities in Maine,
> Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Canada.
>
> The warning applies to American lobster, also known as Maine lobster,
> which is harvested in Atlantic waters from Canada to South Carolina.
>
> Cooking does not eliminate the toxins, but studies have shown that
> even when high levels are present in the tomalley, lobster meat is
> usually not affected, the FDA said.
>
> Symptoms of paralytic shell fish poisoning usually appear within two
> hours of exposure. They include tingling and numbness of the mouth,
> face or neck, muscle weakness, headache and nausea. Anyone who suffers
> such symptoms should see a doctor, the FDA said. In rare cases, people
> who consume a large amount of toxin can suffer respiratory failure and
> death.

Eating lobster without eating the tomalley is like kissing your sister.

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TOPIC: Food and product recalls U.S. gov't site
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2f744adb236fc0cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 7:30 am
From: balanco01@yahoo.com

http://www.recalls.gov/food.html

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TOPIC: If you still have this blanket, get rid of it
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a33ed0bfa352c74a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 7:42 am
From: balanco01@yahoo.com

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05091.html

CPSC, Pottery Barn Kids Announce Recall of Chamois Blankets
WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
announces the following recall in voluntary cooperation with the firm
below. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately
unless otherwise instructed.

Name of product: Chamois Blankets

Units: About 92,000

Manufacturer: Pottery Barn Kids, of San Francisco, Calif.

Hazard: The decorative stitching on the blanket's edge can come loose,
allowing a child to become entangled in the yarn. This poses a
strangulation hazard to young children.

Incidents/Injuries: Pottery Barn Kids has received four reports of
incidents involving the decorative stitching coming loose. No injuries
have been reported.

Description: This recall involves children's chamois blankets made of
100% polyester. The blankets were sold in yellow, pink, blue and
green, and the reverse side of all the blankets are white. Decorative
yarn in a coordinating color is stitched around the blanket's edge.
The blanket measures 30-inches wide by 40-inches long and are labeled
for stroller use. A label on the blanket reads "pottery barn kids" and
"Made in Korea."

Sold at: Pottery Barn Kids' stores nationwide, through the Pottery
Barn catalog, and PotteryBarnKids.com from December 2002 through
December 2004 for about $30.

Manufactured in: Korea.

Remedy: Consumers can remove the decorative stitching or contact
Pottery Barn Kids for information on how to receive a replacement or
refund.

Consumer Contact: Contact Pottery Barn Kids toll-free at (877)
800-9720 between 7 a.m. and 12 a.m. ET daily or visit the firm's Web
site at www.potterybarnkids.com.

Pottery Barn Kids Media Contact: Abigail Jacobs, at (415) 616-8432

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TOPIC: How do you save money, I started with INK for my printer
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3b671e616b1da3dd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 8:52 am
From: "http://theeliteconnoisseurs.blogspot.com/"

Funny thing is, I never would have thought about this before. I go to
garage sales and Goodwills, and they will be selling ink cartridges
any type any brand as long as they have the colors I need, they sell
for about 25-.99c. I made my own recyclable ink kit and I Just take
the ink from the cartridge and put in my cartridges. Recycled
cartridges for my printer cost 10.00 or 15.00 ea brand new, I need
four. Works like A charm and I save a bundle. At first it was so
messy, but then I got the hang of it. If I can find a few cheap on
ebay, I snatch them up. Care to share anymore money saving tips!

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TOPIC: Subscribe to my blog - don't tell me it's spam
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 8:56 am
From: Cheapo Groovo

Many are familiar with the work of the Dollar Stretcher and the Tightwad
Gazette, but not my work =3F =3FCheapo Groovo=3F. I believe their work is
groundbreaking stuff. I=3Fm trying to take what they have done to the next
level.

Here are the ways I have tried to improve on their work and all the
other =3Fmoney=3F blogs:

1. Income and investing posts as well as frugal posts
2. Focusing on universal money saving ideas, no matter your life
stage
3. Easy to read posts that can be read and absorbed in seconds
4. Multimedia presentations =3F audio, video, photos
5. Eliminate information overload =3F no more than 20 new posts per
month
6. An actual M.B.A. is behind the posts not a =3Fwant to be=3F

Please understand that I=3Fm not saying to ignore discussion boards or
other web sites. Other folks do a much better job at recipes, raising
kids cheaply, or how to change your psychological makeup so you become a
frugal zealot.

Cheapo Groovo

http://cheapogroovo.vox.com

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TOPIC: Why not refrigerate everything?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e6e88cae50da47d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 9:53 am
From: val189

On Jul 28, 10:20 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Why not refrigerate everything?
>
> I live in an apartment and the fridge is supplied by
> the landlord but on the small side to say the least.
>
> However, I've been thinking abt buying a small freezer

Read the recent post which listed the pros and cons of a separate
freezer.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Jul 29 2008 10:07 am
From: "h"

"val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2d62b1e2-4453-494e-bda0-fb1f3b30d07d@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 28, 10:20 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> Why not refrigerate everything?
>>
>> I live in an apartment and the fridge is supplied by
>> the landlord but on the small side to say the least.
>>
>> However, I've been thinking abt buying a small freezer
>
>
> Read the recent post which listed the pros and cons of a separate
> freezer.

Cons? There are no cons to owning a separate freezer.

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