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TOPIC: Molded wood -vs- plastic toilet seat
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1f97d88adb8c4be7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 9:55 am
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 24, 10:16 pm, Doc <docsavag...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I replaced a toilet seat. At Home Depot they had a large selection of
> various materials - wood, plastic and molded wood. The old one was a
> molded wood seat that came with the house.
>
> There seemed to be more molded wood models than any other. The paint
> had worn off the old one in spots and it actually cracked which is
> what finally prompted me to replace it. I went with a plastic model
> with a "quiet close" hinge and a quick release feature which seems
> like a really good idea for convenient, thorough cleaning of the
> toilet.
>
> I went with plastic because it doesn't have paint to wear off and I'm
> guessing won't break on the load bearing area like the old molded wood
> one did and will hold up better over time.
>
> What's the benefit of a molded wood seat? Some of them were pretty
> expensive, so it doesn't seem to be just a "cheap" alternative.

Not as cold as plastic?

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TOPIC: Frugal tea making: Automate it?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/49f2703bd6991ac2?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 10:43 am
From: me@privacy.net

I drink a lot of tea and am currently buying it
pre-made in gallon jug at the store

I know making it at home is cheaper/better..... but
would investing in a Mr Coffee tea maker make sense or
is it best to just use a pot and heat water on stove
and use tea bags?

Bottom line...any value to buying an automatic tea
maker such as link below?

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-TM3-2-3-Quart-Maker/dp/B000EYO8AK

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 10:47 am
From: Goomba

me@privacy.net wrote:
> I drink a lot of tea and am currently buying it
> pre-made in gallon jug at the store

Gads. And you LIKE that stuff?
>
> I know making it at home is cheaper/better..... but
> would investing in a Mr Coffee tea maker make sense or
> is it best to just use a pot and heat water on stove
> and use tea bags?

Good grief.. how in the world do you think people survived before
specialty appliances?? Try using a pot or a kettle to boil water. Just
like your momma and grandmomma did. Then pour boiling water over tea.
Steep. Drink.
Why make it more complicated and costly than it need be?

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 10:51 am
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:

> I drink a lot of tea and am currently buying it pre-made in gallon jug at the store

Fark.

> I know making it at home is cheaper/better.....

No surprises there, its another one of those things thats much better freshly made.

> but would investing in a Mr Coffee tea maker make sense

Depends on how lazy you are.

> or is it best to just use a pot and heat water on stove and use tea bags?

I prefer to zap the mug full of water in the microwave and then add the tea bag to that.

> Bottom line...any value to buying an automatic tea maker such as link below?

> http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-TM3-2-3-Quart-Maker/dp/B000EYO8AK

Not if you have a microwave.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:31 am
From: me@privacy.net

Goomba <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote:

>Good grief.. how in the world do you think people survived before
>specialty appliances??

I realize that... but the question was if any value in
"automating" it?

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:48 am
From: clams_casino

me@privacy.net wrote:

>
>Bottom line...any value to buying an automatic tea
>maker such as link below?
>
>
>
>
None.

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:57 am
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

me@privacy.net wrote:
> Goomba <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Good grief.. how in the world do you think people survived before
>> specialty appliances??
>
> I realize that... but the question was if any value in
> "automating" it?

No.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:23 pm
From: "JR Weiss"

<me@privacy.net> wrote...
> I know making it at home is cheaper/better..... but
> would investing in a Mr Coffee tea maker make sense or
> is it best to just use a pot and heat water on stove
> and use tea bags?
>
> Bottom line...any value to buying an automatic tea
> maker such as link below?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Coffee-TM3-2-3-Quart-Maker/dp/B000EYO8AK

If you like hot-brewed tea rather than "sun tea," a tea pot and stove would
probably work better than the "Ice Tea Maker."

Several years ago when we were on a hot tea kick, we tried making tea in a
regular drip coffee maker that had an extra "tea basket" that went inside the
regular coffee basket. It worked OK, especially when we wanted it ready when we
woke up in the morning. However, after a while, we found the regular old tea
pot worked better for us.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:55 pm
From: "h"

"Goomba" <Goomba38@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6euhucF92i12U1@mid.individual.net...
> me@privacy.net wrote:
>> I drink a lot of tea and am currently buying it
>> pre-made in gallon jug at the store
>>>
>> I know making it at home is cheaper/better..... but
>> would investing in a Mr Coffee tea maker make sense or
>> is it best to just use a pot and heat water on stove
>> and use tea bags?
>

We have a Salton iced tea maker. We make at least a gallon a day and it's SO
much better and less expensive than the jug stuff. The best thing about is
you just start it up and walk away. No worrying about steeping, etc.

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TOPIC: Bug stray
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/95b487bea7bbfd49?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 10:55 am
From: "Rod Speed"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Does it make any difference which you buy?

It can do depending on what you are trying to kill.

> Would flying insect spray kill roaches and ants just as effectively?

It does if you spray it on them directly. The problem is that roaches
particularly come out in the biggest volume when you arent around
and so you really need something that works when you arent around.

Ant bait works best with special formulations that see the ants cart
the ant killer back into the nest and kill the ants that are still in the nest.
You cant kill very many ants by spraying the holes even if you can find them.

> If you are going to buy just one type as a general bug spray?

Doesnt work very well for some bugs like ants and roaches particularly.

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TOPIC: Dieting on a budget
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7cbeb26b885dc908?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:02 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote
> Al <aebaxter@gmail.com> wrote

>> Somehow it seems like eating less should cost less, but I always
>> end up spending more when I'm dieting. I just read this article:

>> http://www.livestrong.com/article/4096-need-diet-programs/

>> It talks about how diets can fit every budget. But what
>> are your tips for losing weight on a tight budget?

> Get out and walk. Walking costs nothing ... except time.

Thats not necessarily true. Most of the fools around here walk on
the roads, quite literally. Its amazing that more dont get run over.

Plenty of geriatrics can get quite injured even just falling over, and can end up dead as a result.

> Its awesome exercise, burns lots of calories if you walk
> briskly, and its a great opportunity to clear your mind.

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TOPIC: look to the bible for answers?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2c1e11836f90c57d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:38 am
From: clams_casino

Jeffy3 wrote:

>>Too bad President Bush has violated God's law more then anyone in modern
>>times.
>>
>>
>
>But is he frugal?
>
>

Certainly NOT with tax payers money.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 12:01 pm
From: Jeffy3

On Jul 25, 2:38 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Jeffy3 wrote:
> >>Too bad President Bush has violated God's law more then anyone in modern
> >>times.
>
> >But is he frugal?
>
> Certainly NOT with tax payers money.

Maybe someone should direct him to this newsgroup!

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TOPIC: ~Name Brand SCAM
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/24d9192f319b26f3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:44 am
From: clams_casino

gsus wrote:

>Adidas, Gap,
>

This same scam has been spammed onto every newsgroup I've seen today,

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TOPIC: clothes washers and dryers for older units with "weak" plumbing?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c09777ed837c7055?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:55 am
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

Dave wrote:
>
>> And if you are paying a million for a condo, can't you afford to run
>> a new drain pipe down to the basement?
>
> That's what I was thinking. I'm guessing it's landlord preference as
> to why there are no washers in the building. That is, the landlord
> doesn't want them in the building, and is using the weak excuse of, the
> pipes won't handle it. -Dave

If it's a condo, there's no landlord -- just a homeowner's association.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 11:56 am
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply

Seerialmom wrote:
>
> I agree with you. The H/e detergent is designed to be low suds and
> should work. I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's
> nothing more than an apartment, except you can paint the walls and
> change the flooring if you want.

It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some
equity.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 12:43 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 25, 11:56 am, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
<samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:
> Seerialmom wrote:
>
> > I agree with you. The H/e detergent is designed to be low suds and
> > should work. I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's
> > nothing more than an apartment, except you can paint the walls and
> > change the flooring if you want.
>
> It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some
> equity.

That's about the only thing I could think of, too. But HOA fees go
up, so do the taxes. But for those who want to wear the badge of
"home ownership" I guess it's better than renting.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote
> Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply <samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote
>> Seerialmom wrote

>>> I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's nothing more than an
>>> apartment, except you can paint the walls and change the flooring if you want.

Presumably you actually are that stupid.

>> It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some equity.

> That's about the only thing I could think of, too. But HOA fees go up, so do the taxes.

You pay those even if you are renting, stupid.

> But for those who want to wear the badge of "home ownership" I guess it's better than renting.

Pity about the tiny matter of equity, stupid.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:55 pm
From: Seerialmom

On Jul 25, 1:13 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply <samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote
> >> Seerialmom wrote
> >>> I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's nothing more than an
> >>> apartment, except you can paint the walls and change the flooring if you want.
>
> Presumably you actually are that stupid.
>
> >> It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some equity.
> > That's about the only thing I could think of, too. But HOA fees go up, so do the taxes.
>
> You pay those even if you are renting, stupid.

You don't pay HOA fees OR property taxes when you're a renter...and
I'll return the favor: DORK! :-p

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 2:00 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote
>>> Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply <samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote
>>>> Seerialmom wrote

>>>>> I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's nothing
>>>>> more than an apartment, except you can paint the walls and change
>>>>> the flooring if you want.

>> Presumably you actually are that stupid.

>>>> It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some equity.
>>> That's about the only thing I could think of, too. But HOA fees go up, so do the taxes.

>> You pay those even if you are renting, stupid.

> You don't pay HOA fees OR property taxes when you're a renter...

Corse you do, the landlord includes those in the rent, stupid.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 2:19 pm
From: WDS

On Jul 24, 11:12 pm, Dave <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> If you used H/E detergent with a non-H/E top loader? It wouldn't suds
> enough to get your clothes clean. That is, unless you used about twice
> as much H/E detergent...in which case you'd be paying more money for
> the same amount of suds, and you'd be flushing the same amount of gray
> water down the drain... (back where you started).

Suds don't clean in and of themselves but are a byproduct of the
detergent.

The manufacturer of one HE detergent had this to say:

Can I use ARM & HAMMER Liquid Detergent HE in my regular washing
machine?

HE detergents are specially formulated to work best in HE machines.
While ARM & HAMMER Liquid Detergent HE will work (clean) in regular
machines, we recommend that consumers use one of our other liquid
detergent products in regular machines.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 2:47 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article
<d9771ae1-3a0e-4bf1-a9f1-8b2bdd9ec076@x29g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Seerialmom <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jul 25, 11:56 am, Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply
> <samh...@TRASHsonic.net> wrote:
> > Seerialmom wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with you. The H/e detergent is designed to be low suds and
> > > should work. I never could understand the concept of a "condo" that's
> > > nothing more than an apartment, except you can paint the walls and
> > > change the flooring if you want.
> >
> > It saves you from rent hikes yearly and hopefully also gives you some
> > equity.
>
> That's about the only thing I could think of, too. But HOA fees go
> up, so do the taxes. But for those who want to wear the badge of
> "home ownership" I guess it's better than renting.

The great thing about the world today is that we have all kinds of
choices, and you can aspire to buy or rent whatever kind of housing
you want. In my case, I don't want to both with outside maintenance,
and I don't want to live next to somebody who thinks it is funny to
paint their house pink and yellow polka dots. It is a lot less
responsibility for me, and it fits in well my on-the-go lifestyle.

-john-

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TOPIC: am i getting the floor model?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/08e6b64125d04228?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 1:55 pm
From: missyluv09@gmail.com

So, I placed an order for a new mattress set, and when I stopped in
the store on the delivery date, the floor model is missing!!! The
salesgirl assured me I'm getting a new mattress, and that floor model
was just shipped to their other store.. HMMM....I don't really belive
it. How can I tell if I got a new one or a display?

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TOPIC: Is this a good deal on a bed?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ff8643d3ef33e2e1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 3:05 pm
From: metspitzer

http://www.bedroom-furniture-direct.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=SLY1185&refid=FR6-SLY1185

Seems too good to me?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 25 2008 3:13 pm
From: "JR Weiss"

"metspitzer" <kilowatt@charter.net> wrote...

> http://www.bedroom-furniture-direct.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=SLY1185&refid=FR6-SLY1185
>
> Seems too good to me?

Nope. Fair to middlin'...

What is deceptive is the "original price" that represents only a fictitious
"suggested retail price" set by the mfgr or dealer home office, at which level
absolutely NO mattresses were actually ever sold!

You can occasionally find closeout and inventory clearance sales that will sell
you a Sealy at "$99 per piece," which is about $300 for a King set (which comes
in 3 pieces -- mattress and 2 foundation pieces). Beds that you can actually
comfortably sleep on go for $199/piece at similar sales, for about $600 total.

It is NOT a good idea to buy a bed unless you can test it in a showroom first.
Individual preferences are too varied to guarantee that price & quality =
comfort...

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