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* Do you still do your own oil change? - 6 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/00739344169b1364?hl=en
* Frugal way to look younger. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3862302a48905228?hl=en
* Anything wrong with canned tomatoes? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7fb7868def5d6f0e?hl=en
* are there any high lumen LED night lights out there? - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/29f39b8e5f78705c?hl=en
* Vinegar - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4f10bcc3fe11d72b?hl=en
* Got a loud refrigerator, can't afford a new one, what would you do? - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/26165df6108177e9?hl=en
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TOPIC: Do you still do your own oil change?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/00739344169b1364?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 4:20 pm
From: "Dave"
"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:01ca5dea-74f9-428c-9c7c-e00c9909960b@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> I keep saying to myself I'm too old to do it just to save 5 bucks.
> However every time they have a special on oil and filters I get
> another batch.
How do you save 5 bucks? The materials alone are usually more than it costs
to have our garage do it. Then you have to consider the gas you will burn
when you haul the used oil to a recycling facility. -Dave
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 4:37 pm
From: timeOday
Dave wrote:
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:01ca5dea-74f9-428c-9c7c-e00c9909960b@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>> I keep saying to myself I'm too old to do it just to save 5 bucks.
>> However every time they have a special on oil and filters I get
>> another batch.
>
> How do you save 5 bucks? The materials alone are usually more than it costs
> to have our garage do it. Then you have to consider the gas you will burn
> when you haul the used oil to a recycling facility. -Dave
Yeah, I figured it out last time, and you hardly save any money at all
doing it yourself.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 6:03 pm
From: clams_casino
Dave wrote:
>"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:01ca5dea-74f9-428c-9c7c-e00c9909960b@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>I keep saying to myself I'm too old to do it just to save 5 bucks.
>>However every time they have a special on oil and filters I get
>>another batch.
>>
>>
>
>How do you save 5 bucks? The materials alone are usually more than it costs
>to have our garage do it. Then you have to consider the gas you will burn
>when you haul the used oil to a recycling facility. -Dave
>
>
>
>
I find the $5-10 savings a quick, easy savings. Actually, driving to
get an oil change every other month would add significantly to the cost,
never mind the waste of time to / from / waiting for it to be completed..
I save the oil and make one trip per year to the recycling center which
is perhaps a mile further than where I'd have the oil changed.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:28 pm
From: "1297" <1297@npspam.com>
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>
>> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:01ca5dea-74f9-428c-9c7c-e00c9909960b@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>> I keep saying to myself I'm too old to do it just to save 5 bucks.
>>> However every time they have a special on oil and filters I get
>>> another batch.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> How do you save 5 bucks? The materials alone are usually more than
>> it costs to have our garage do it. Then you have to consider the
>> gas you will burn when you haul the used oil to a recycling
>> facility. -Dave
> I find the $5-10 savings a quick, easy savings. Actually, driving
> to get an oil change every other month would add significantly to the
> cost, never mind the waste of time to / from / waiting for it to be completed..
Only a fool changes the oil every other month.
> I save the oil and make one trip per year to the recycling center
> which is perhaps a mile further than where I'd have the oil changed.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:48 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <ZR_wk.53063$Rs1.45334@newsfe08.iad>,
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> I find the $5-10 savings a quick, easy savings. Actually, driving to
> get an oil change every other month would add significantly to the cost,
> never mind the waste of time to / from / waiting for it to be completed..
>
> I save the oil and make one trip per year to the recycling center which
> is perhaps a mile further than where I'd have the oil changed.
You get an oil change every other month? You must either be obsessive
about maintaining your car or you are a high mileage driver. I have
never done my car's oil changes. I prefer to take it to the dealer or
one of those oil change places. I do this for two reasons. First, my
lease does not allow me to do auto work on my apartment's grounds.
Second, I hate doing auto work and I am no good at it. The only auto
maintenance I do myself is wash my car, which I usually do by hand.
Up until last January, I drove a beat up old car and it did fine with
7,000 mile oil changes. I have a 2008 Prius now and it likes 5,000 mile
oil changes. I only drive around 1,000 miles a month, so I have only had
to have the oil changed once on my Prius. I prefer to drop off my Prius
at the dealer where I bought it, in the morning. Instead of waiting, I
hop on a bus and go to work, then I pick it up that evening. For my
first oil change, I spent $70, but I also had some other things done. I
think the actual cost of the oil change was maybe $30. My Pruis is due
for its second oil change in a month.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 8:37 pm
From: jdoe
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:28:44 +1000, "1297" <1297@npspam.com> wrote:
>
>Only a fool changes the oil every other month.
only a fool makes a statement like this without knowing any facts
__________________________________________
Never argue with an idiot.
They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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TOPIC: Frugal way to look younger.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3862302a48905228?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 4:39 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just heard over the radio that a study showed people having sex every
> other day looked 7 to 12 years younger. Does masturbation count?
Yes, it makes you go blind.
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TOPIC: Anything wrong with canned tomatoes?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7fb7868def5d6f0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:25 pm
From: Ron Peterson
On Sep 7, 12:59 am, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Because canned tomatoes don't work well in salads?
They work fine, but be sure to get the unsalted kind.
Fresh are better, but non-local tomatoes are picked green and aren't
much better than canned.
--
Ron
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 9:31 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:15:02 -0700, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Fresh corn on the cob here is back up to
>>a dollar an ear.
>
>Are you showing unusual restraint here, or are you just tired? ;-)
Both. I know the price is a fix and that our ex-neighbors in Florida
can get them for 20 cents an ear. What ticked me off was more the
poor harvest of corn, and I had some control over that. I'm not sure
how I'll handle it next year. In the meantime, it is bags of the
frozen stuff. I am tired of fighting price wars though.
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TOPIC: are there any high lumen LED night lights out there?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/29f39b8e5f78705c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:26 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <g9u42m$u1p$1@aioe.org>, OhioGuy wrote:
> I'm looking for an LED night light. All I've been able to find so far are
>el cheapo ones that either use a single LED, aren't diffused properly, or
>don't produce enough lumens that my wife will let me get away with using it.
>
> I've tried a number of alternative technologies over the past few years -
>electrolumenscent, compact fluorescent, but she has trouble seeing at night,
>and says none of them make enough light. Right now we're using a 7 watt
>incandescent night light that makes perhaps 40 lumens of light, and she says
>it is barely enough.
>
> Therefore, I'm looking for an LED nightlight that is well diffused (not
>directional - I don't want a 'laser' type dot on the ceiling)& which makes
>80+ lumens of light for our bathroom. I've looked at some at local
>supermarkets and such, but they don't say how many lumens. My experience is
>that if it has a single LED or doesn't mention the lumen output, it just
>won't be bright enough for my wife, who seems to lack the ability to see
>well in low light situations.
>
> I don't care if it uses 2 or 3 watts - I just need a decent amount of
>light output that isn't directional.
>
> I've spent over an hour searching online, and haven't been able to find
>what I need. I find loads and loads of night lights with 20-30 or so lumens
>of output, and which use less than a watt of power. I've tried those
>before, and they just end up in a box in the basement, because my wife says
>they are not up to par.
They probably have exaggerated claims of light output.
In general, white, non-yellowish-green and blue LEDs have higher
scotopic/photopic ratio than incandescents, especially low wattage ones.
That makes a significant difference where night vision has any role.
Now, for LED lights that truly produce 30 lumens and which should be OK:
Doggone, I am not aware of any that are diffused and not directional.
One can be homebrewed: Luxeon star, 10 ohm resistor at least a watt
(sandstome style 5 and 10 watt ones are cheap and convenient), a
5 volt cellphone charger, and an appropriate diffuser, and a .315 or .5
amp fuse in case something goes wrong.
However, a 3 watt compact fluorescent produces about 100 lumens. Also,
that wattage is usually cold cathode - meaning generally longer life.
Look for a life rating of 20,000 or 25,000 hours or so.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:30 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <joGdnZXA177nMl_VnZ2dnUVZ_oPinZ2d@earthlink.com>, Derald wrote:
>"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote:
>
>> ...they just end up in a box in the basement, because my wife says
>>they are not up to par.
> Seriously: Think, "flashlight" ("torch"). DW&I have each owned and
>used bulletproof 2-AA minimag flashlights since the early '80's. They've
>served us well while camping, on cine/photo sets, back stage, _and_ as
>bedside "night" lights. DW often uses hers as a in-bed reading light,
>too. Last week, I installed one of the conversion kits to transform my
>25-year-old minimag into a LED. Truth is, I paid as much for the kit as
>I would have for a new flashlight and I'm not sure that I'm pleased with
>the conversion because I don't perceive it as nearly as bright as the
>(genuine) minimag halide "peanut" lamp (although the color of the light
>may be a factor) and it lacks the wide-to-spot choke that makes the
>minimag so versatile.
I have tried 2-AA and 3-AA LED MAGs. Not conversions, but made as LED
flashlights. I found the 2-AA one a little dim, but I do like the 3-AA
one. And it is adjustable.
I suspect it can be "souped up" by replacing the LED with a Luxeon
K2-with-TFFC, which is a more efficient LED than the one I see in the unit
I bought about a year ago.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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TOPIC: Vinegar
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 7:49 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article
<069a33d3-f19a-424b-b6c4-d089be171e2e@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Boothbay <harri85274@aol.com> wrote:
> I've been keeping my white, red wine vinegar bottles on a shelf, my
> balsamic vinegar in the fridge...what's wrong with this picture?
> Should they all be in the fridge or out on a shelf?
Whatever works for you is fine. I keep all that stuff in my cupboard.
Been doing it that way for as long as I remember without any problems.
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TOPIC: Got a loud refrigerator, can't afford a new one, what would you do?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/26165df6108177e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 9:17 pm
From: BirdWatcher2008@gmail.com
My kitchen is open and the loud noise is anywhere in my home.
Put some blankets over the fridge but this does not help?
Any ideas for me?
Joe
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 9:58 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <54bd5e56-34a9-4aa4-ab0c-d81a84636e44@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
BirdWatcher2008@gmail.com wrote:
>My kitchen is open and the loud noise is anywhere in my home.
>
>Put some blankets over the fridge but this does not help?
>
>Any ideas for me?
>
>Joe
How old is this fridge? If it was made in the mid, maybe late 1980's or
so or longer ago, then there is a fair chance you can afford a new one by
reducing your electric bill by something like $5-$10 possibly more per
month.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 7 2008 11:01 pm
From: Jeff
BirdWatcher2008@gmail.com wrote:
> My kitchen is open and the loud noise is anywhere in my home.
>
> Put some blankets over the fridge but this does not help?
Not a good idea anyways.
Since you've said absolutely nothing about what the noise is or where it
is coming from, and the crystal ball is on loan, I can only guess.
If this is a buzz or a rattle it may be the compressor. The compressor
is suspended from springs in an oil filled enclosure. If the
refrigerator is not level, or if one of these springs has weakened the
compressor will touch a side and vibrate against it. You can see if this
is the problem by leaning the refrigerator slightly in one direction or
another. That would also be your "fix".
And Don is absolutely right. Refrigerators have come a long way in
efficiency.
I'm not an appliance tech, so my understanding of this may be a bit off.
Jeff
>
> Any ideas for me?
>
> Joe
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