Frugal Living: 24 new messages in 13 topics

Friday, September 12, 2008

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TOPIC: Question about a new website called Bailecn
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 12:24 am
From: SMS

steeleman67@gmail.com wrote:
> A friend just sent me a link to a new electronics website called
> www.bailecn.com. it's got incredible pricing but I've never heard of
> it and I cant find any details about it. Has anyone ever heard of it
> or shopped on it? If so, how was it?

Avoid it at all costs.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 11:16 am
From: chief_thracian@yahoo.com (Chief Thracian)

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:24:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Avoid it at all costs.

Walk away from the light!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 1:44 am
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TOPIC: Emporio Armani Womens Watch Ar5527 Recommendation Discount Watches
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TOPIC: The wrong response to higher food prices
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 5:47 am
From: Al Bundy

timeOday wrote:
> <http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/09/pf/food_downsizing/index.htm>
> "As manufacturers cope with the rising cost of raw ingredients and fuel,
> downsizing their package sizes is one increasingly popular way to pass
> along a price increase without drawing too much attention."
> ------------------------
>
>
> Fortunately, the government requires producers to indicate the net
> weight of the food on the packaging, and the grocery store indicates the
> price per ounce. So the somewhat deceptive aspect of this is manageable.
>
> My real problem with this policy is that packaging is expensive. Buying
> larger quantities at a time is one way to save money, yet producers are
> doing the opposite. So this particular response to higher food prices
> just exacerbates the problem!

So buy more raw food products and bulk items where possible.

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TOPIC: Update to Prepaid Cellular Site
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 7:29 am
From: Zuke

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, Gordon wrote:

>SMS.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
> news:xuxxk.20404$jI5.10460@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com:
>
>> I have updated my web site on prepaid cellular service at:
>> "http://prepaiduswireless.com/"
>>
>> This is a non-commercial site that I put together because I was
>> constantly e-mailing people information regarding which prepaid
>> wireless plans were the best deals.
>>
>> There are presently four ways to get prepaid cellular for under $2.50

Good work but it seems to be aimed at the people who just want to
have a cellphone in case they catch on fire or something. A real
fringe market since it appears a lot of the public has taken the
cell phone to be their main outlet for connecting up with others.

I am in the market where I don't call four people up every time
a light bulb goes off in my head but I do want incoming and outgoing
calls. Tracfone has worked for me. I think I pay about $100 a year
for over 1000 minutes. I did pay $50 extra one time for double
minutes for life. I have had really good luck with their customer
service.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 7:44 am
From: SMS

Zuke wrote:

> Good work but it seems to be aimed at the people who just want to
> have a cellphone in case they catch on fire or something.

Not really. PagePlus is as low as 5.4¢ per minute, which is cheaper than
any prepaid service I've ever seen, plus it has far better coverage than
GSM Tracfone (I think there is no more CDMA Tracfone being sold).

T-Mobile can be as low as 8¢ per minute. I know that there's various
deals on Tracfone that can bring the cost lower than the standard
pricing of 20-33¢ per minute, but probably not as low as 5.4¢.

The 7-11 pricing at 15¢ per minute is still less than the regular
Tracfone pricing, but probably higher than the deals Tracfone
periodically offers with bonus minutes that generally can cut the
regular pricing in half.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 8:49 am
From: Zuke

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, SMS wrote:

> Zuke wrote:
>
>> Good work but it seems to be aimed at the people who just want to
>> have a cellphone in case they catch on fire or something.
>
> Not really. PagePlus is as low as 5.4¢ per minute, which is cheaper than any
> prepaid service I've ever seen, plus it has far better coverage than GSM
> Tracfone (I think there is no more CDMA Tracfone being sold).
>
> T-Mobile can be as low as 8¢ per minute. I know that there's various deals on
> Tracfone that can bring the cost lower than the standard pricing of 20-33¢
> per minute, but probably not as low as 5.4¢.
>
> The 7-11 pricing at 15¢ per minute is still less than the regular Tracfone
> pricing, but probably higher than the deals Tracfone periodically offers with
> bonus minutes that generally can cut the regular pricing in half.

My tracfone went belly up recently. I called tracfone and they sent
out a new sim but I didn't think that was the problem anyway as I was
getting no display at all.

So I went to Meijer and picked up a new phone for 15 bucks. When I
switched my number over online I winded up with 2 months extra service
and a 1000 extra minutes. Maybe that came with the new phone.

I am not recommending tracfone over other services, just noting that
so far it has worked for me. And though it might not be the cheapest
it is not going to break the bank either.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 9:05 am
From: SMS

Zuke wrote:

> My tracfone went belly up recently. I called tracfone and they sent
> out a new sim but I didn't think that was the problem anyway as I was
> getting no display at all.
>
> So I went to Meijer and picked up a new phone for 15 bucks. When I
> switched my number over online I winded up with 2 months extra service
> and a 1000 extra minutes. Maybe that came with the new phone.
>
> I am not recommending tracfone over other services, just noting that
> so far it has worked for me. And though it might not be the cheapest
> it is not going to break the bank either.

Yes, Tracfone makes it very convenient, much more so than PagePlus. But
you stated "...it seems to be aimed at the people who just want to
have a cellphone in case they catch on fire or something." This isn't
true, it's aimed at people that want the lowest overall cost (other than
the ARN service).

T-Mobile really makes it easy as well, and once you buy $100 in air time
your minutes don't expire for 365 days, and minutes are as low as 8¢.
Alas the T-Mobile prepaid coverage isn't very good as they don't let you
roam onto 800 MHz GSM carriers. You can roam onto other 1900 MHz
carriers, but there aren't many of these around.

One thing I find quite ironic is that text messages on PagePlus can cost
as little as 3.6¢, while on my postpaid Verizon account, texting is now
up to 20¢. On Tracfone, text messages are 0.3 minutes, or 7-10¢ which
isn't bad, but still 2-3x what PagePlus charges.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 1:37 pm
From: imascot

Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote in
news:vqqdnVNUqszkH1XVnZ2dnUVZ_tXinZ2d@earthlink.com:

> imascot <imnot@mycomputer.now> wrote:
>
>>all excited until they hear about the odd way you have to activate a
>>phone.
> I found nothing odd about calling a customer service number and
> following instructions received from a human being.

Is this the Page Plus activation procedure, directly through them? I'm curious, because I didn't do it that
way, and their website no longer even mentions that they will do activations. The guy I used through
Ebay (not Ugly Eric) and I communicated through email.

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TOPIC: CVS Pharmacist calls customer a "Fucking AIDS freak"
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 9:06 am
From: Al Bundy

ultim...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://consumerist.com/5047882/cvs-employee-calls-customer-a-fucking-aids-freak
>
> Check out this stunning exchange between a Philadelphia CVS employee
> and a customer:
>

>
> There's no real great way to wrap up this report. I guess the
> great lesson is, people can still be complete douchebags, and
> sometimes there's nothing you can do about it.<snip>

Well, this part of what you posted is sure true.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 11:22 am
From: chief_thracian@yahoo.com (Chief Thracian)

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:25:19 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:

> There's no real great way to wrap up this report. I guess the
>great lesson is, people can still be complete douchebags, and
>sometimes there's nothing you can do about it.<snip>

Bring your complaint to an appropriate AIDS and/or LGBT legal advice
service. Fight back for those who no longer can, as well as for
yourself, and your partner.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 1:47 pm
From: Patriot Games

On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:25:19 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
>http://consumerist.com/5047882/cvs-employee-calls-customer-a-fucking-aids-freak
>Check out this stunning exchange between a Philadelphia CVS employee
>and a customer:
> His response was "Whatever, somebody needs to come deal with this
>because I'm about to go off..."
> "You're about to 'Go off?', I asked him."Do you really think
>that's the best thing to say to a paying customer?"
> And at this point, with his back turned to me, the young man
>muttered "Fucking AIDS freak."

Bwahahahahhahahaha!!

Most people don't like fags, and just about everybody doesn't like
AIDS-Fags!

>We are both currently on a
>medicaid-related health insurance plan, a situation that is new to us
>and directly related to his current health issues.

And the taxpayers are paying good money to keep a fag alive!?!?!

Now THAT is an INJUSTICE!

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 5:56 pm
From: "Martha Adams"

"Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.Com> wrote in message
news:7r0jc4ltaepcsbcteta3tv2qvmt7dlomld@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:25:19 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
>>http://consumerist.com/5047882/cvs-employee-calls-customer-a-fucking-aids-freak
>>Check out this stunning exchange between a Philadelphia CVS employee
>>and a customer:
>> His response was "Whatever, somebody needs to come deal with this
>>because I'm about to go off..."
>> "You're about to 'Go off?', I asked him."Do you really think
>>that's the best thing to say to a paying customer?"
>> And at this point, with his back turned to me, the young man
>>muttered "Fucking AIDS freak."
>
> Bwahahahahhahahaha!!
>
> Most people don't like fags, and just about everybody doesn't like
> AIDS-Fags!
>
>>We are both currently on a
>>medicaid-related health insurance plan, a situation that is new to us
>>and directly related to his current health issues.
>
> And the taxpayers are paying good money to keep a fag alive!?!?!
>
> Now THAT is an INJUSTICE!

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Anybody want to guess if this fellow is a Republican?

Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.med 2008 Sep 11]

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 11:56 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <48c96191.9220833@amsterdam.newsgroups-download.com>,
chief_thracian@yahoo.com (Chief Thracian) wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 22:25:19 -0700 (PDT), ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > There's no real great way to wrap up this report. I guess the
> >great lesson is, people can still be complete douchebags, and
> >sometimes there's nothing you can do about it.<snip>
>
> Bring your complaint to an appropriate AIDS and/or LGBT legal advice
> service. Fight back for those who no longer can, as well as for
> yourself, and your partner.

If I was this person, I would complain in writing to CVS' CEO. Go right
to the top. The last thing a CEO wants to see is is company getting a
bad reputation because that hurts the bottom line.

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TOPIC: A common tactic..not seen on this NG but im posting it anyway
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 12:02 pm
From: phil scott

Very interesting...for the NG and for life in general. this was in
regard to baiting other politicians.. why they engage in the
practice... the attempt is spin rational or truthful answers into some
sort of debasement, then provoke rage in the targeted person... those
remarks made out of rage are the ones that stick. .a person is led
into self destruction by any response.

.. a pastime for sociopaths... 'trolling'... even to the point of
stalking a victim, or calling their clients etc with lies.... to the
point of suicide in some cases...then these brag about it... there is
significant new legislation targeted at making the stalking, forging,
and lying aspects a felony... in the case of suicides, murder charges.

"The most important thing about a good attack is not the attack
itself. It's baiting your opponent to respond the way you want him to
respond, because only the things that come out of his mouth will
ultimately stick."

You see this applied even in government.. say at a tax audit etc.. the
auditor says to the half starved target who just lost his home or
whatever "we know you made money, therefore you owe taxes"... thats
both false and ludicrous of course...depends on how much money, and
the filing requirement limitations etc...

the remark is made to provoke rage, then enraged the victim starts
screaming ... that material can then be used against him.

***

One other issue. the old saying 'power corrupts, absolute power
corrupts absolutely'..

Those with such power, either as untraceable sociopaths trolling on
USENET, corporations or government with its insane wars... these go
totally corrupt. then self destruct. Not before doing imense damage
though.

Phil scott

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TOPIC: Unplug your cable. Get TV over the internet
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 3:47 pm
From: me@privacy.net

Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:

>Off air is pretty much free. All you need is one of those
>digital converter boxes and an antenna.

Understand..... but there are some
locations where getting good DTV signal
is hard but getting a good wifi signal
is NOT. Weird I know but true

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TOPIC: Are there good reasons to leave your computer on?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 4:08 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <io-dnVZEyPGRm1rVnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Frank <x> wrote:

>> > In the "olden days" the reason for keeping the computer on
>> > was to avoid wearing out the powersupply via multiple restarts.

>> Nope, that is not correct.

>Yes it is correct. That was the thinking about 10 years ago; maybe
>not in your neighborhood but here around Silicon valley it was. It
>was common thinking that multiple cycles would shorten the life of the
>powersupply. Kinda like flicking a light switch off/on can kill a
>light bulb faster than leaving it on.
[ ... ]

No, the power supply is only one issue. Thermal cycling is bad for
anything with soldered connections--like the ones holding all the
components to the motherboard, video adapter, drive electronics,
keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc.

Enough thermal cycling can cause the joints to crack, leading to
lots of problems.

Better for the electronics for it to remain at a stable temperature.

I keep my core systems on full-time (I have supported distributed
computing projects in the past; those are not up at the moment). Then
again, I'm a network administrator; most people are't running Windows
Server 2003 Enterprise (legal, retail package) at home. I have very
little reliability issues with my systems.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Why is it that these days, the words "What idiot" are so frequently
followed by the words "at Microsoft"?

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TOPIC: where did everybody go?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 4:32 pm
From: "Lou"

It's been three days and I haven't seen a new post (spam is filtered out,
but I haven't even seen a new spam address). Did this once great group die?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 6:00 pm
From: "Dave"

"Lou" <lpogoda@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:KUhyk.78$N5.14@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> It's been three days and I haven't seen a new post (spam is filtered out,
> but I haven't even seen a new spam address). Did this once great group
> die?

Many major ISPs aren't peering usenet anymore. The excuse given is that
they wanted to stop distribution of kiddie porn in the binary groups, so
they killed ALL groups. Truly ironic, as usenet should be text only. So a
better idea would have been to just kill all the binary groups that don't
belong on usenet anyway...

Result is, traffic to all TEXT usenet groups is down (by my estimate) at
least 90%.

If you ask me, it is an attempt to kill free speech, using "it's for the
children" as a lame excuse. -Dave

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 11 2008 7:53 pm
From: Tony

I think everyone went to the 24hoursupport.helpdesk newsgroup. Why not let
Chuckcar put your computer in ruins by taking some of his well concocted advice?

Lou wrote:

> It's been three days and I haven't seen a new post (spam is filtered out,
> but I haven't even seen a new spam address). Did this once great group die?

--
The Grandmaster of the CyberFROG

Come get your ticket to CyberFROG city

No, I just decided not to play your silly game is all. *Some* of us know proper
manners

Very few. I used to take calls from *rank* noobs,

Hamster isn't a newsreader it's a mistake!

El-Gonzo Jackson FROGS both me and Chuckcar

Using my technical prowess and computer abilities to answer questions beyond the
realm of understandability

Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday

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Friday, September 12, 2008

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