Monday, September 22, 2008

25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

* Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion - 7 messages,
4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/968a95c4d776c842?hl=en
* Another HH&C lie - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88a58a209e9d86e2?hl=en
* Costco guest passes - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a28391830066fbd?hl=en
* Putian City Chengxiang District CiCi Trade Co., Ltd (Wholesale world famous
brand)8-35USD - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6493dac04abf3d70?hl=en
* American Taxpayers Forced to Bailout Zionist Gangsters. - 2 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4c8e8b536424c076?hl=en
* OT: Paulson Bail-out or Paulson Give-Away? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a5f4909217c0237?hl=en
* brot backen mit hefe brot backen backpulver rezepte rezepte zubereitung
regionale rezepte - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/078852f3a27b4706?hl=en
* Expense of owning a car - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4157ba4677ee6728?hl=en
* Watching The NFL Can Be Really Disgusting - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/04744c1b61cd4c14?hl=en
* Air Jordan Shoes, Jordan Fusion, Air Jordan Force AJF 1, Nike Jordan Sport
Shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb6ee88cbc4bce28?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion 3 III, Nike AJF3 Jordan x Air Force 1, Nike Air Force &
Classic Shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/020c1b3cdaf945ec?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion 5 V, Nike AJF5 Jordan x Air Force 1 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b41ed2f4e37a59e6?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion 6 VI, Nike AJF6 Jordan x Air Force 1, Nike Air Jordan 6
Rings - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e1ecc8fdfb587283?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion 12 XII, Nike AJF12 Jordan x Air Force 1 Collaboration
Fusion Shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0b687096aa03a5de?hl=en
* Air Jordan Fusion 23 XX3, Nike AJF23 Jordan x Air Force 1 - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/520b07399666777e?hl=en

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TOPIC: Palin splurgin' on $2,500 silk jackets and other high fashion
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/968a95c4d776c842?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 21 2008 11:58 pm
From: psyber_operations@yahoo.com


On Sep 18, 1:54 pm, ayatollah obama
<osama.obabma.by.anyn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 18, 5:47 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> > ayatollah obama wrote:
>
> > >compared to what piglosi has run up in deficit for this
> > >year.
>
> > Bush and Cheney died?    I missed that.   When did she become president?
>
> you must have FAILED American history,
>
> Let he help fill the void between your ears... The House of
> Representatives controls all money spent. Who controls the House?????
> guessed the answer yet dumbass??? hint, her last name starts with
> Piglosi, and her first name starts with CUNT.
>
> Know that you have had a refresher course in American History, who is
> resposible for the $400 Billion deficit????
>
> I'll wait for the answer

Bush signs all bills.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:04 am
From: psyber_operations@yahoo.com


On Sep 19, 1:34 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 18, 1:51 pm, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Sep 18, 10:20 am, cake_and_eat_it_...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > >> Yeah, it seems like Sarah Palin, who professes to love her kids so
> > >> much, could get her daughter Bristol into something other than blue
> > >> jeans. That speaks volumes about "our soccer mom" and where her
> > >> priorities are.
>
> > > Bristol is a teenager.  Is there any evidence that she doesn't want to
> > > wear blue jeans?  My mother could hardly crowbar me out of mine
> > > and into a dress, and that was a long time ago when we had standards.
>
> > Oh.  So you're saying the Palins haver no standards.
>
> No, I'm saying that dress codes in general have relaxed quite a bit
> since
> I was a girl.  I'm always amazed when I see what people wear to church
> nowadays.

You don't go to one of those churches, like Sarah Palin's, where they
think that war and death are ok, that the Iraq occupation was "a
calling from God", and that if another pipeline is paid for with
earmarked funds that it is "God's will", do you?

I'll wait for your response, to let you know why I ask those
questions.

>
> > But then...I mean...it's not like a special event or anything...why dress
> > up...just because mom buys that designer jacket.  Besides...we don't
> > know...those jeans might have cost a grand.
>
> They might have.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:34 am
From: Gumby


On Sep 22, 1:57 am, psyber_operati...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2:43 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:
>
> > Val N. Teenow wrote:
> > > Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> > Good question.  Who's picking up the tab?
>
> The nazi neocon machine, of course.  Shows how out of touch she is
> with middle America, let alone the poor.
>
> Sarah Palin: unfit for duty!

Why must she act poor? Shouldn't we have people to aspire to?

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:35 am
From: Gumby


On Sep 21, 11:38 pm, Ken Lay
<livin_la_vida_mo...@skilling.the.whipping.boy> wrote:
> In article <78g4d4p3198g57nm00f8tdbb6it52op...@4ax.com>,
>
>  jdoe <j...@aol.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:20 -0000, "Val N. Teenow" <tee...@n.val>
> > wrote:
>
> > >Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>
> > what is it yours or anyone else's business what she spends on herself?
> > as ling as it's her money being spent it's nobody's business.
> > what a bunch of simpletons why are engaged by crap like this
>
> Yeah, who cares how she spends Alaska's money?

Except she's not; she's spending her own income.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 1:55 am
From: clams_casino


Ken Lay wrote:

>In article <78g4d4p3198g57nm00f8tdbb6it52opm0i@4ax.com>,
> jdoe <jdoe@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:45:20 -0000, "Val N. Teenow" <teenow@n.val>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Where does a "hockey mom" get the money for $2,500 jackets?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>what is it yours or anyone else's business what she spends on herself?
>>as ling as it's her money being spent it's nobody's business.
>>what a bunch of simpletons why are engaged by crap like this
>>
>>
>
>Yeah, who cares how she spends Alaska's money? Those chumps voted her
>in. Nobody held a gun to their heads. She should use her government
>salary (including any graft) to do whatever she wants, milk baths,
>diamond-encrusted plumbing fixtures or roomsful shoes like Imelda. It
>was public money once, but it's hers now so fuck off before we come
>after you.
>
>

But it's not AK's money. It's YOUR money. AK takes $5 in aid from the
federal government for each dollar they contribute in federal income
taxes. Without that federal aid, AK residents wouldn't receive their
welfare checks. (They might actually use their oil profit taxes on
state government expenditures rather than providing welfare for all it's
residents).

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 5:44 am
From: Ken Lay


In article
<c7c73e49-ec5e-4330-b4d4-79556ddba8fd@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Gumby <stkwvr07@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Except she's not; she's spending her own income.

Not spending Alaska's money? Oh, never mind. I thought she was the
governor. My mistake
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:42 am
From: Gumby


On Sep 22, 7:44 am, Ken Lay
<livin_la_vida_mo...@skilling.the.whipping.boy> wrote:
> In article
> <c7c73e49-ec5e-4330-b4d4-79556ddba...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  Gumby <stkwv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Except she's not; she's spending her own income.
>
> Not spending Alaska's money? Oh, never mind. I thought she was the
> governor. My mistake

It's HER income, regardless of who pays it. It's not like she's using
tax money earmarked for the public to buy her clothes. She has a right
to use HER income any way she wants - or do you want the gov't to
start telling you how to spend your income and control more of your
life?



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TOPIC: Another HH&C lie
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/88a58a209e9d86e2?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 12:26 am
From: Curly Surmudgeon


On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:36:35 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:

> On Sep 21, 8:24 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <curlysurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:57:41 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
>> > On Sep 21, 4:34 pm, Curly Surmudgeon <curlysurmudg...@live.com> wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:21:23 -0700, almostcutmyhairtoday wrote:
>> >> > On Sep 21, 3:12 am, Curly Surmudgeon <curlysurmudg...@live.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:49:56 -0700, Felix D. wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > "Curly Surmudgeon" <curlysurmudg...@live.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:48d577ca$0$22238$a8266bb1@news.titannews.com...
>>
>> >> >> >> Memo to Felix: Google has archived history.  Bush didn't
>> >> >> >> consult Congress until after he'd made up his mind then used
>> >> >> >> scare tactics and secrecy to give them only a glimpse at
>> >> >> >> unsupported and fraudulent evidence.
>>
>> >> >> > Well, then, if the Dems were so fukken spineless and gullible
>> >> >> > that they never bothered to see if what they were being told was
>> >> >> > true or not, then too bad to all of you on the left. You had
>> >> >> > your chance and you blew it.
>>
>> >> >> Me, on the left?  Fuck off troll.
>>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards, Curly
>>
>> >> > Curly is a huge lefty.  While he runs a scam on here trying to get
>> >> > republicans to vote for Bobb Barr, he constantly apologizes for
>> >> > Obama. He'll vote Obama in the election.
>>
>> >> You are lying again.
>>
>> > Perhaps you're just not eleigible to vote, being a citizen of
>> > Argentina and all.  I meant legally allowed to vote.
>>
>> Who writes this shit for you?  Do you believe what you post?
>>
>> >> Why do you feel the need to misrepresent the words and positions of
>> >> others?  
>>
>> > Because you misrepresent yourself?
>>
>> So, to use your debating technique, you admit misrepresenting the words
>> and positions of others?
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Curly
>
> Do you still want me to refer to you by your rightful name?

We, therefore, can take that as a "Yes, HH&C intentionally misrepresents
the words and positions of others."

--
Regards, Curly
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 3:58 am
From: Vic Smith


On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:29:30 -0400, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:


>
> What do you make of this?:
>
>WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Federal Reserve said Sunday it had granted a
>request by the country's last two major investment banks - Goldman Sachs
>and Morgan Stanley - to change their status to bank holding companies.
>...
>In the surprise announcement late Sunday, the central bank said that to
>provide increase funding support to Goldman (GS, Fortune 500) and Morgan
>(MS, Fortune 500) during the transition period, they would be allowed to
>get short-term loans from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York against
>various types of collateral.
>
>http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/21/news/companies/fed_investmentbanks.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008092121
>
>No one will ever accuse Paulson, Bernanke and Cox of thinking small...
>
> Jeff
>

Commies, in essence. Guv and news media controlled by a cadre of
commissars who reap huge benefits from the labor of others.
I saw Paulson all over the TV this past weekend, and not one
interviewer mentioned his $500 million in Goldman Sachs take, or that
anybody with sense sees him as a fox with chicken blood sticking
feathers all over his face as he explains how he will protect the
coop.
My main political concern used to be that guv employment would get so
bloated that those workers would control every election, perpetuating
waste and featherbedding.
But what has happened is quite different, and I watched in amazement
as it transpired. Started with the lionization of CEO pukes like Jack
Welch on magazine covers all through the '90's.
Never could understand why accumulation of vast wealth is a desirable
trait, but it has been lately. Maybe that will change now, but I have
my doubts.
As long as "they" make sure "the folks" can afford cable TV and food
on the table, it won't change. Idle hands and hunger are the mother
of protest and change.

--Vic


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TOPIC: Costco guest passes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a28391830066fbd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 1:23 am
From: "opmy"


Does Costco give guest passes like Sam's does?
I need to buy a couple of things at Costco - I am ready
to pay an additional 10% or whatever, if they allow me
to shop without a membership.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 1:56 am
From: Mark Anderson


In article opmy@spam.com says...
> Does Costco give guest passes like Sam's does?
> I need to buy a couple of things at Costco - I am ready
> to pay an additional 10% or whatever, if they allow me
> to shop without a membership.

Then you'd probably be better off shopping at Target. Costco fools
people with loss leaders so they think they're getting value for their
membership fee. If you have an understanding of what things cost and
you take an overall view of their inventory, Costco probably won't save
you much over shopping at non membership stores. Many people convince
themselves they save money simply because they paid for a membership and
to think they haven't saved money would give them cognitive dissonance.
Many of these people never shop anywhere else other than Costco (so as
to make use of the membership card) so they really don't know what
things cost elsewhere.

That said, if you know what you're going to use the membership for and
scouted Costco's loss leaders you can make good on the $50 membership by
shopping wisely. I certainly wouldn't pay a 10% overall penalty for a
basket full of random stuff.

As always, YMMV.


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TOPIC: Putian City Chengxiang District CiCi Trade Co., Ltd (Wholesale world
famous brand)8-35USD
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6493dac04abf3d70?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 1:42 am
From: cicitrade01@yahoo.cn


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TOPIC: American Taxpayers Forced to Bailout Zionist Gangsters.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4c8e8b536424c076?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 1:46 am
From: clams_casino


Sanforized wrote:

> wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:06:15 -0700, wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://rense.com/general83/bdc.htm
>>>
>>> How dare the fucking government use our money to protect greedy
>>> plunderers.
>>>
>>> ted
>>
>
> The government is protecting the citizens from another
> "great depression." Through government failure to
> properly regulate we have arrived to this point.


It's much like "the surge is working".

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 5:33 am
From: Sanforized


clams_casino wrote:

> Sanforized wrote:
>
>> wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:06:15 -0700, wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://rense.com/general83/bdc.htm
>>>>
>>>> How dare the fucking government use our money to protect greedy
>>>> plunderers.
>>>>
>>>> ted
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The government is protecting the citizens from another
>> "great depression." Through government failure to
>> properly regulate we have arrived to this point.
>
>
>
> It's much like "the surge is working".

You appear to be blinded by partisan politics. We need
a few people like you.


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TOPIC: OT: Paulson Bail-out or Paulson Give-Away?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1a5f4909217c0237?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 2:50 am
From: spinoza1111


On Sep 22, 7:32 am, freeisbest <demeter547op...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 3:30 pm, "david7ga...@aol.com" <david7ga...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Three highlights from the article I'm forwarding:
>
> > "The taxpayers are going to pony up close to a trillion dollars to
> > take bad debts off the hands of financial institutions who were
> > foolish enough to make the deals in the first place. And in exchange,
> > I think the tax payers get nothing."
>
> > "[T]his is radically different than the S&L Crisis:  RTC which was
> > liquidating the assets of thrifts that had already gone belly up[….]
> > But here the point is to take these bad debts off these companies'
> > hands so they can go back to being profitable businesses."
>
> > "[F]inance industry lobbyists are already giving orders to Republican
> > hill staffers not to allow any meaningful reforms or protections for
> > taxpayers. So, just the money. No strings attached."
>
>  >http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/218444.php
>
>     Thanks for the urls, I'll take a look at the new ones -in all the
> papers I've seen today, news consists mostly of "financial crisis/
> chicken little" articles.  Here's an interesting comment on the
> subject from another forum (HuffPo), posted by "spinoza1111", in
> response to an op-ed piece that purported to find useful advice in -
> not kidding here - Ayn Rand:

Thanks for the cite, hope it helps: this is Edward G. "spinoza1111"
Nilges.

>     "Part of the problem has been that too many Wall Street playuhs
> think that Ayn Rand is "deep". She was a financially successful writer
> of beach trash who told a talk-show host that she was a "philosopher",
> and got a smallish number of people to believe her. Her "objectivism"
> is an illusion created by what Wittgenstein called "the bewitchment of
> our intelligence by means of language". If it is a noun, in her
> ontology, it is objectively real.
>      Unfortunately this "reality" has included derivatives which
> through the magic of computers today "derive from", and depend on,
> countless other financial instruments, creating "objective realities"
> which were liquid yesterday but which have turned into
> antimatter...because their valuation depends, to arbitrary levels, on
> the unknown values of thousands of other securities!
> Here's the funniest part. If security A mentions B in its contract,
> and B mentions C, and C mentions A, who's on first? Your computer will
> hang when it tries to examine this contract unless programmed to check
> for such "recursion"!
> Not all "rocket scientists" seem to know this! They were asleep in
> class even at Princeton. I was there: the class of 1987 carried a sign
> at p-rade saying "Wall Street Here We Come!" All that mattered to many
> was a superficial understanding of mere programming."

Marx said it best, in The Communist Manifesto:

"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the
instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production,
and ith them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old
modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first
condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant
revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social
conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the
bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen
relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and
opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before
they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is
profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses, his
real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."

People read Rand merely because she helps them to AVOID facing "with
sober senses" the real conditions of their lives.

One condition, which is almost unbearable and unadmissable for people
who work as financial or software technicians in the financial
industry (and who are often sighted reading Rand on break), is that
what Marx meant by the "bourgeoisie" is in fact a vanishingly small
class: the word doesn't mean "middle class" in any statistical sense,
but expresses a qualitative distinction.

The bourgeoisie of today are quite simply people able to accumulate
wealth over several generations, and the bourgeoisie in America have
often based their fortunes on slave trading and slave owning. Their
heirs are indistinguishable from other slobs at parties except perhaps
by lengths of lines of coke because the popular culture has masked and
mystified growing inequality with a thug's egalitarianism.

Rand lets people play at being bourgeois when in fact not even the
Harvard MBA will insulate today's financial technicians from long-term
unemployment.

Quite simply, means of production are being revolutionized today in
Asia by enlisting the formerly colonized as the new producers and
consumers: Marx didn't foresee this.


>
>
>
> > Further reading:
>
> > Paul Krugman on the bailout:  "No Deal"
>
> >http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/20/no-deal/
>
> > Even more damning sentiments from a Washington Post editorial:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/3kxr6p
>
> > OR:
>
> >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/20/AR200...
>
> > Plan rejected by former Goldman Sachs partner:
>
> >http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-zehner/atlas-shrugged-a-reaction_b...
>
> > -david gable- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


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TOPIC: brot backen mit hefe brot backen backpulver rezepte rezepte zubereitung
regionale rezepte
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/078852f3a27b4706?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 4:04 am
From: jenn1982592@googlemail.com


brot backen mit hefe brot backen backpulver rezepte rezepte
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brotbackautomat eintopf rezepte
salat rezepte brot backautomat
rezepte für kids brot pizza
rezepte getreide rezept
wie viele brotsorten gemüse rezept
backen kalorien alle brotsorten
rezepte zum deutsche brotsorten
brot bild brot backen hefe

- brot backen früher gefüllte kartoffeln
- einfache rezepte rezept backen
- rezept brotbacken geschälte kartoffeln
- viele brotsorten gibt es backen mit
- backrezepte brot brot backen zubehör
- vollkorn backen geschälte kartoffeln
- verschiedene brotsorten brot bild
- ohne hefe backen geflügel rezepte
- brot backen bei brot backen brotbackautomat
- brot backen kurs rezept
- brot backen vollkorn brotsorten gibt es in
- zutaten rezepte kochbuch
- gefüllte kartoffeln quiche rezept
- ciabatta brot backen brot backen leicht


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TOPIC: Expense of owning a car
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4157ba4677ee6728?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 4:47 am
From: "RodSpeed,_start_digging_that_hole"


More expensive then ever now.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 6:43 am
From: Tony


Only if you live in a state where insurance is manditory. Actually if
you don't drive far it's one of the cheapest eras to own a car. It's car
insurance and the crooks that insure that have destroyed the auto
industry.


"RodSpeed,_start_digging_that_hole" wrote:

> More expensive then ever now.

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TOPIC: Watching The NFL Can Be Really Disgusting
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/04744c1b61cd4c14?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 6:25 am
From: sarge137


On Sep 21, 3:00 pm, acd <po...@manlymail.net> wrote:
> On Sep 21, 3:41 pm, "ricok987" <ricok...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > You do realize that NFL players are paid on average between $2-4 million do
> > you? Ticket prices alone will not pay those salaries, and there is no
> > pay-per-view.  Just use the commercial time for bathroom and snack breaks,
> > or channel surf because the only other alternative would be either to record
> > the game or tivo...
>
> Do you relaize soccer players in Europe make much much more money than
> NFL players?  And that there are no commercials during the two halves?

And therefore, what?


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TOPIC: Air Jordan Shoes, Jordan Fusion, Air Jordan Force AJF 1, Nike Jordan
Sport Shoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/bb6ee88cbc4bce28?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:13 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

Air Jordan 1
Air Jordan 2
Air Jordan 3
Air Jordan 4
Air Jordan 5
Air Jordan 6
Air Jordan 7
Air Jordan 8
Air Jordan 9
Air Jordan 10
Air Jordan 11
Air Jordan 12
Air Jordan 13
Air Jordan 14
Air Jordan 18
Air Jordan 19
Air Jordan 23


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TOPIC: Air Jordan Fusion 3 III, Nike AJF3 Jordan x Air Force 1, Nike Air Force
& Classic Shoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/020c1b3cdaf945ec?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:28 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

Nike Air Jordan Lines

Air Jordan 3 Fusion Premiere - Black / University Blue - Anthrac

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 LS (reed / oak)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 (white / fire / cement)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 (black / fire / cement)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 (black / uni blue)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 LS (black / scenery)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 (flint / maize / silver)

Nike Air Jordan Force 3 AJF3 (white / black / maize)


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TOPIC: Air Jordan Fusion 5 V, Nike AJF5 Jordan x Air Force 1
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b41ed2f4e37a59e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:31 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

Nike Air Jordan x Air Force 1 Collaboration (Fusion) AJF Shoes

Air Jordan Fusion 5 (Black /Varsity Red /Blue Ribbon)

Air Jordan Fusion 5 (White/Orange Peel/Blue Chill/Varsity Mai)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 AJF5 (Black /Varsity Red /White)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 AJF5 (stealth / cactus)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 AJF5 (White /Varsity Red /Black)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 AJF5 (White /Varsity Red /Blue Ribbon)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 Low (Black /Varsity Red)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 5 Premier (Grey Nurse)


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TOPIC: Air Jordan Fusion 6 VI, Nike AJF6 Jordan x Air Force 1, Nike Air Jordan
6 Rings
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e1ecc8fdfb587283?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:34 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

Nike Jordan 6 Rings (Olympic Edition)

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 6 Infrared

Nike Air Jordan Fusion 6 (white/ Black)

Air Jordan Fusion 6 (Black/ white)

Jordan 6 Rings Laser Detailed Look

Nike Jordan 6 Rings (black / varsity red / white)

Nike Jordan 6 Rings (grey / vivid / white / concord)


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TOPIC: Air Jordan Fusion 12 XII, Nike AJF12 Jordan x Air Force 1 Collaboration
Fusion Shoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0b687096aa03a5de?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:38 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

Air Jordan Fusion 12 Black/Green Bean-Varsity Red

Nike Air Jordan x Air Force 1 Collaboration (Fusion) AJF Shoes

Nike Air Jordan Force 12 AJF12 (black / white)

Nike Air Jordan Force 12 AJF12 (white / black / taxi)

Nike Air Jordan Force 12 AJF12 LS (silver / glacier)

Nike Air Jordan Force 12 AJF12 (white / cactus)

Nike Air Jordan Force 12 AJF12 (white / cherry)



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TOPIC: Air Jordan Fusion 23 XX3, Nike AJF23 Jordan x Air Force 1
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/520b07399666777e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 22 2008 7:41 am
From: riki0002@gmail.com


www.kicksin.com

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