Frugal Living: 20 new messages in 12 topics

Tuesday, November 11, 2008

20 new messages in 12 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: what to do with old coffee?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1dc7fc7675771054?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:57 pm
From: "aineecumi@gmail.com"

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 9:09 pm
From: no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID)

In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0811101641400.31801@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz>,
barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
>
>The worst you'll find, if the packages were not sealed is that they've
>gone rancid. But I think they'd need to be open like for 5 years or
>something. I wouldn't worry about it, I'd just use it and see. Won't
>kill ya.

...5 years...

Tonite, in the course of looking for a suitable empty storage container
I found the tupperware "coffee" container which still contains a few
scoops (scoop included) of ground coffee. But I know that the coffee
drinkers had switched to instant at least by 2000. So 10 years old is
probable and older very likely. Can ground coffee keep that long?
It smelled like coffee, was dry, didn't move under its own power.

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TOPIC: Low water toilets false frugality
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e5254ebab3c47538?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 5:58 pm
From: Siskuwihane

On Nov 10, 6:22 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 12:52 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 3:38 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dennis wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:52:27 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
> > > ><anniewough...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>We did a little remodeling last year and replaced both our older toilets
> > > >>(ugly colored ones from the 60's) with new Kohler "5-star flush system"
> > > >>toilets. These toilets are supposed to be good for the environment because
> > > >>they use less water for each flush. The problem being--over 75% of the time
> > > >>the toilet has to be flushed at least twice to get everything to go down.
> > > >>Ours are even worse because they have the elongated bowl, so toilet paper
> > > >>usually lands in the front of the bowl and then it never gets washed down
> > > >>with the first flush and even sometines on the second flush. Also, the
> > > >>consumer isn't given a choice, because the older style toilets using more
> > > >>water per flush are not available for purchase. You would think that at
> > > >>some point they would have tested the newer toilets to make sure they were
> > > >>in fact actually using less water in everyday household use.
>
> > > >I installed Gerber power flush toilets in my house and they have never
> > > >failed to clear the bowl on the first flush. That's over 10 years,
> > > >with 3 children in the house. They were top-rated by Consumer Reports
> > > >at the time.
>
> > > >Now there are also conventional flush toilets that are as highly
> > > >rated. Look at the Toto line.
>
> > > >Dennis (evil)
>
> > > We have a Kohler low flush that has always worked fine - over eight
> > > years now. Could be the model. Could the tank possibly need an
> > > adjustment?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > We do too, but ours are 1.6 GPF where as some of these newer models
> > are .8 GPF.
>
> > Don't know what the OP's is, I believe they also meant "Class 5"
> > instead of "5 Star" flushing system which is anywhere from 1.28 GPF to
> > 1.4 GPF.
>
> No, they meant 5 Star; that's how they're advertised at the big home
> improvement stores. I've been considering some lately and that's
> where I've seen the ratings. BTW I like this one toilet that has a
> dual flush system; 2 buttons on the top, one for #1 and one for #2
> (decides how much flushing power is needed).- Hide quoted text -

Ok, but one of Kohlers flushing systems is called the "Class Five™
flushing system".

Kohler doesn't have anything called "5 Star flush system" as stated,
sounds like something the Home Depot/Lowes uses in store with a lot of
other products.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:16 pm
From: "bungalow_steve@yahoo.com"

On Nov 10, 8:52 am, "Annie Woughman" <anniewough...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> We did a little remodeling last year and replaced both our older toilets
> (ugly colored ones from the 60's) with new Kohler "5-star flush system"
> toilets. These toilets are supposed to be good for the environment because
> they use less water for each flush. The problem being--over 75% of the time
> the toilet has to be flushed at least twice to get everything to go down.
> Ours are even worse because they have the elongated bowl, so toilet paper
> usually lands in the front of the bowl and then it never gets washed down
> with the first flush and even sometines on the second flush. Also, the
> consumer isn't given a choice, because the older style toilets using more
> water per flush are not available for purchase. You would think that at
> some point they would have tested the newer toilets to make sure they were
> in fact actually using less water in everyday household use.

yea it's what happens when you get environmentalist designing toilets
instead of engineers

it's not that I mine multiple flushes, it's the wait inbetween flushes
that's a killer

BTW the old fashion chain pull gravity boosted toilets can suck down a
watermelon with a gallon of water, you can still buy them

http://www.plumbingsupply.com/oldtoilet.html

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:24 pm
From: SoCalMike

Annie Woughman wrote:
> We did a little remodeling last year and replaced both our older toilets
> (ugly colored ones from the 60's) with new Kohler "5-star flush system"
> toilets. These toilets are supposed to be good for the environment
> because they use less water for each flush. The problem being--over 75%
> of the time the toilet has to be flushed at least twice to get
> everything to go down. Ours are even worse because they have the
> elongated bowl, so toilet paper usually lands in the front of the bowl
> and then it never gets washed down with the first flush and even
> sometines on the second flush. Also, the consumer isn't given a choice,
> because the older style toilets using more water per flush are not
> available for purchase. You would think that at some point they would
> have tested the newer toilets to make sure they were in fact actually
> using less water in everyday household use.
>
>
ive installed "lamosa" or whatever the cheapest home depot toilet is,
and it seems to work just fine on one flush. older models really didnt
work well.

youre sure the water level in the tank is where it should be?

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 9:29 pm
From: E Z Peaces

SoCalMike wrote:
> Annie Woughman wrote:
>> We did a little remodeling last year and replaced both our older
>> toilets (ugly colored ones from the 60's) with new Kohler "5-star
>> flush system" toilets. These toilets are supposed to be good for the
>> environment because they use less water for each flush. The problem
>> being--over 75% of the time the toilet has to be flushed at least
>> twice to get everything to go down. Ours are even worse because they
>> have the elongated bowl, so toilet paper usually lands in the front of
>> the bowl and then it never gets washed down with the first flush and
>> even sometines on the second flush. Also, the consumer isn't given a
>> choice, because the older style toilets using more water per flush are
>> not available for purchase. You would think that at some point they
>> would have tested the newer toilets to make sure they were in fact
>> actually using less water in everyday household use.
>>
>>
> ive installed "lamosa" or whatever the cheapest home depot toilet is,
> and it seems to work just fine on one flush. older models really didnt
> work well.

In the 1980s, I chose and installed a 1.6-gallon toilet that flushed
well. I moved. About 2000, relatives replaced it with a toilet that
needs multiple flushes even for urine.

Many models flushed well, but many didn't. People in the business
realized there would be far fewer complaints if those that wouldn't
remove 250 grams in one flush could be identified and avoided. Since
2003, most of the bad ones have disappeared. Of 700 models tested this
year, only 11 failed. The worst was the American Standard Cadet EL, at
125 grams.

Vortens-Lamosa is a state-of-the-art Mexican manufacturer. Earlier this
year, apparently the only Vortens-Lamosa toilet sold by Lowes was the
Pegasus Tulip EL. It has no flapper valve. Tests showed that it would
get rid of 400 grams in one flush, so it should be adequate for
households without elephants.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 9:38 pm
From: Zar

On Nov 11, 7:22 am, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 12:52 pm, Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 10, 3:38 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dennis wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:52:27 -0800, "Annie Woughman"
> > > ><anniewough...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>We did a little remodeling last year and replaced both our older toilets
> > > >>(ugly colored ones from the 60's) with new Kohler "5-star flush system"
> > > >>toilets. These toilets are supposed to be good for the environment because
> > > >>they use less water for each flush. The problem being--over 75% of the time
> > > >>the toilet has to be flushed at least twice to get everything to go down.
> > > >>Ours are even worse because they have the elongated bowl, so toilet paper
> > > >>usually lands in the front of the bowl and then it never gets washed down
> > > >>with the first flush and even sometines on the second flush. Also, the
> > > >>consumer isn't given a choice, because the older style toilets using more
> > > >>water per flush are not available for purchase. You would think that at
> > > >>some point they would have tested the newer toilets to make sure they were
> > > >>in fact actually using less water in everyday household use.
>
> > > >I installed Gerber power flush toilets in my house and they have never
> > > >failed to clear the bowl on the first flush. That's over 10 years,
> > > >with 3 children in the house. They were top-rated by Consumer Reports
> > > >at the time.
>
> > > >Now there are also conventional flush toilets that are as highly
> > > >rated. Look at the Toto line.
>
> > > >Dennis (evil)
>
> > > We have a Kohler low flush that has always worked fine - over eight
> > > years now. Could be the model. Could the tank possibly need an
> > > adjustment?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > We do too, but ours are 1.6 GPF where as some of these newer models
> > are .8 GPF.
>
> > Don't know what the OP's is, I believe they also meant "Class 5"
> > instead of "5 Star" flushing system which is anywhere from 1.28 GPF to
> > 1.4 GPF.
>
> No, they meant 5 Star; that's how they're advertised at the big home
> improvement stores. I've been considering some lately and that's
> where I've seen the ratings. BTW I like this one toilet that has a
> dual flush system; 2 buttons on the top, one for #1 and one for #2
> (decides how much flushing power is needed).- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is what we have. You usually press the low flush for pee and the
stronger plush one other than peeing.

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TOPIC: What would You do with 3 trillion dollars?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ac30cb6d09a4d06d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:14 pm
From: "aineecumi@gmail.com"

please dun make a pathetic story here..
3triilion is a huge amount..

xoxo,
aineecumi

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TOPIC: This works especially well as you age
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0595bd8749ef93fe?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:31 pm
From: "aineecumi@gmail.com"

totally agreed..
open up ur own business the return is well-worth..
im dreaming of opening my own business one day but for now im still
studying and will collect money fast to open up my own business..
yeah!!

most jobs take more from you than
they return.<=i agree with this statement..definitely agree!!with the
increasement of food price, they didn't take any consideration..

xoxo,
aineecumi

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TOPIC: Bean Paste and eternity.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/28d7748891bcd244?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:45 pm
From: "aineecumi@gmail.com"

u probably have to throw it away..
what for u want to kept it??
u can get a new one..
health is more important more than everything..

xoxo,
aineecumi

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TOPIC: black mould washing machine door seal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/640ed11ee759b1bc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:52 pm
From: "aineecumi@gmail.com"

bleach will be the best solution..

xoxo,
aineecumi

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TOPIC: Sound Insulate my computer?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/887848c5574eb729?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 6:53 pm
From: corgorant@gmail.com

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TOPIC: OT: Thieving Republican Paulson's last laugh at America's expense
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4b1692a081a00af3?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:04 pm
From: "david7gable@aol.com"

This is a stupefying story from the Washington Post, "Quiet Windfall
for Banks." Using fine print quietly inserted into the bill, Treasury
Secretary Paulson has taken America to the cleaners once again under
cover of the bailout, and if Congress does anything about it the
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TOPIC: death-dealing L. turn signal near Tampa, Fla
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/89b7d30c1a8bdb92?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:12 pm
From: phil scott

On Nov 10, 1:16 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In <4a81cedf-dbd4-4826-be05-c2e495242...@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> misterf...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >anyone ever seen an incomplete L. TURN signal?:
>
> >one with a green light; a yellow light- but no red light on the signal
> >after the
> >yellow because the red light is there, but DIS-CONNECTED !
> >43 serious injury (FlaDOT statistics)L. turn, head-on and side
> >collissions with oncomming traffic in Florida at this L. turn because
> >the Fla DOT disconnected the red light:
> >. Palmetto, Fla. southbound on US 41 (left turn about 200yds past
> >(west) of the Walmart)
>
> > On a L. turn signal, once the green light comes on- the signal MUST
> >complete its cycle.( green to yellow to RED). After the red, if an
> >unprotected , permisable left turn (L. turn when oncoming traffic
> >clears) is desired: the left turn signal should go to a blinking
> >yellow light. It should not go from the yellow , directly to a green
> >light on ANOTHER SIGNAL for the thru lanes to the right.
>
> I would think that Florida and 48 other U.S. States are similar enough
> to Pennsylvania in regard to traffic signals:
>
> If the left arrow goes from green to yellow to blank, your protected
> left turn has expired. One assumes that the red light has burned out.

Yer ass-umption is based on your own IQ, probably well above two
digits....

However, fully 49% of the population in the US has a two digit IQ, by
definition,
and half the people with higher IQ's are either drunk, senile, blind
or talking on thier
cell phones.

the bogus light for all these years is an idicatiion of civil service
gone totally south.

Phil scott

>
> Unless there is a green left arrow or yellow left arrow indicating
> protedted left turn, you assume lack of protected left turn. That
> requires left turners to yield to oncoming traffic. The left turners are
> at fault if they collide with oncoming traffic when not protected by a
> green left arrow and they are supposed to know that.
>
> The only difference made by a red light for left turn signal is that a
> red left turn signal requires left turners to not proceed whether or not
> there is oncoming traffic to collide with.
>
> 43 left turners needed tickets for failure to yield to oncoming traffic
> when turning left. Aren't there cops in Palmetto, FL?
>
> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:22 pm
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TOPIC: Skype/Onesuite Versus Comcast Digital Phone
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/415ed0480cf07be8?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:33 pm
From: SoCalMike

Vic Smith wrote:
> I saw a post from SoCalMike that got me interested in Skype, because
> he plugs the phone into the router and doesn't have to have the PC on
> for the phone to ring.
> Depending on Skype costs and whether it will work with the AT&T DSL
> package I mentioned, it might be better than going all AT&T.
> We prefer having a few phones in the house and I don't know if that's
> practical with the Skype setup. We could go to one phone though.

philips sells additional phone/charger units as well for that model.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 7:42 pm
From: SoCalMike

John Weiss wrote:
> Skype charges by the destination, regardless of where the call originates. Even
> a local call will cost 2 cents/minute.

ive got "skype in", with its own number for $30/yr. i BELIEVE that means
incoming and outgoing (at least inside the USA) are free, as is voicemail.

the thing i know is extra charge is call forwarding to another phone,
and i think thats the .02/min charge. if i was expecting an important
call and i knew all they had was my skype/"home" number i set it to
forward to the cell.

you can also buy a box "internet phone wizard" that plugs into the
computer via USB and allows you to use a cordless phone system you
already have.

i tried it for a while and it worked ok, but the philips is nice in that
it gives you your contact list on the phone screen and allows use
without a running computer.

its not the cheapest option, but compared to $30/mo for
verizon/comcast/att/time warner giving you the same thing? the main
difference is that they can port a number- skype cant.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 8:39 pm
From: "Bob F"

"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:p4jgh4lfrfav6m4cgcgmc7pl8ur55e26hq@4ax.com...
> Want to run this by the frugalistas here, because I usually learn
> something by doing so.
> I'm not happy with my Comcast costs, which just north of Chicago cost
> me
> Comcast Cable Television $ 54.99
> Comcast High Speed Internet $ 45.95
> Comcast Digital Voice $ 47.56
> Taxes, Surcharges and Fees $ 4.12
> Payment Due Date 10/24/08 $ 152.62

Call up comcast and say your thinking of going to someone else because they are
too expensive. When I did, they offered me cable and internet for $33/month each
for 6 months. This matches the new customer sales price.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 8:51 pm
From: Zar

> Here's another flavor that might work. The same AT&T DSL at $19.95 a
> month without AT&T phone service.
> I saw a post from SoCalMike that got me interested in Skype, because
> he plugs the phone into the router and doesn't have to have the PC on
> for the phone to ring.
> Depending on Skype costs and whether it will work with the AT&T DSL
> package I mentioned, it might be better than going all AT&T.
> We prefer having a few phones in the house and I don't know if that's
> practical with the Skype setup. We could go to one phone though.
> Haven't even got around to looking at OneSuite yet.
> Anyway, I'm interested in any comments about this, especially from
> those with experience in what I discussed.
> Really not sure about the DSL, which I have never had, and how
> suitable it is when using Skype or OneSuite.
> TIA,
>
> --Vic

Getting an all voip service to replace your landline depends on how
you use your phone. If you have a mobile phone then its safe to do but
if the voip service is all you got then its quite risky as voip
depends on internet and power. Either one of those fail then you will
have no phone service at all. Comparing Onesuite and Skype has its own
pros and cons. I use Onesuite in favor of Skype because its better for
my calling habits. SkypeIn is $18/3 mos or $60/year (http://
www.skype.com/prices/) which you get a phone number and unlimited
calls to landlines in US. You need to buy a Skype credit to call other
numbers (mobile phones or international numbers).

For Onesuite voip (http://www.onesuite.com/access_VOIP.asp) you pay
$2.95 a month if you want a voip phone number and outgoing calls are
pay as you go basis.If you will just use it for outgoing calls then
you don't need a phone number then you can skip the $2.95 a month fee.
You may also request to port your current number fro free to your
Onesuite voip account if you want to retain your current phone number.
On top of that, your account is also good for their prepaid phone card
service (which is their main product) which comes handy if you find
yourself with no internet connection but with phones around
(payphones, house phone, etc)

If you intend to use a voip service, then I suggest you check your DSL
speed as voip will work better on 512kbps connection but can get away
with only 384kbps connection but don't expect a good call quality all
the time.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 10 2008 10:34 pm
From: Zar

On Oct 31, 6:17 am, DoctorTime <doctor...@kamaloca.com> wrote:
> I was fairly impressed with Skype - until I compared their prices with
> onesuite.com.
> I already have been using onesuite.com and been happy with the service
> but people kept telling me how cheap and great skype.com was and I
> tried it at someone else's home and it seemed fine, quality wise.
>
> So I went out and bought a headset/microphone for my computer and then
> as I was signing up for skype I began to look at the rates.
>
> What I found out is that in almost every case, onesuite.com is cheaper
> than skype!
>
> For domestic USA to domestic USA phones (not skype to skype but skype
> to phone), skype is .001 cheaper than onesuite.
>
> But for calls to foreign countries, onesuite is cheaper in most or at
> least many cases.
>
> So before you get hooked into the skype hype, try onesuite. With
> onesuite you don't have to go out and buy a mic/headset.
>
> *I do not work for onesuite and have NO personal gain from posting
> this, I do so only as a public service.
>
> I have not investigated other aspects of skype such as their message
> service and so forth so maybe with other aspects of their service it
> is still as good or better of a deal then onesuite. But for just the
> price of calling long distance, it seems to me onesuite wins out.

Another Onesuite user here. I also use Skype but only for chatting or
calling another Skype user (PC to PC) but for my usual long distance
calls, I use Onesuite.

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