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* Dried up Wite-Out - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Can I drop AT&T Long Distance, Keep Local? - 5 messages, 4 authors
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* Campbell Soup porition size - 1 messages, 1 author
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* DIY Reverse Mortgage? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Evading parking tickets - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Low water toilets false frugality - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Dried up Wite-Out
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 2:18 pm
From: Zuke
> Is there anything you can add to a bottle of thickened wite-out to
> restore it? I know the stuff is cheap, but then so am I, and I'm
> thinking it would be nice to use up the product instead of throwing the
> damn stuff out one bottle after another.
>
> and, yes, I really really try to put the cap on tightly every single
> time.
Making more mistakes should easily solve this problem.
I use the little guns you drag across the paper. Works pretty good
if you are just trying to get rid of typed stuff.
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TOPIC: Can I drop AT&T Long Distance, Keep Local?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 2:52 pm
From: SMS
joshhemming@fastmail.fm wrote:
> I've been paying around $5.00 a month in fees and taxes just for the
> priviledge of having AT&T Long Distance service on my land line. I
> never use their LD service, preferring to use prepaid calling cards
> instead. I'd like to drop the long distance part of my AT&T phone
> service to save those wasted bucks, but keep the land line for local
> calls and continue using calling cards for LD. But I'm not sure it's
> possible:
>
> If there is no long distance service for my land line, can I still
> call toll-free 1-(8xx) numbers from it? I have to first call one of
> those 800 numbers to place a calling card call.
>
> And I'm assuming if I only have local service on my land line, I can
> still RECEIVE long distance calls....is this correct?
Remember, if you sign up with OneSuite or TalkLoop and use local
numbers, it's usually cheaper than any calling card on the market, plus
you don't have to enter a PIN number if you program in your home number
into their system. Also OneSuite has access numbers all over the world.
The only issue with not having any long distance provider on your
account is that if you ever need to send a FAX it can be difficult to do
using a prepaid service or calling card. I've managed to do it manually,
but it was a pain. Now I use faxaway.com and fax from the PC. They
charge a small amount per page, and $1/month, a much better deal than eFAX.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 5:06 pm
From: George Grapman
SMS wrote:
> joshhemming@fastmail.fm wrote:
>> I've been paying around $5.00 a month in fees and taxes just for the
>> priviledge of having AT&T Long Distance service on my land line. I
>> never use their LD service, preferring to use prepaid calling cards
>> instead. I'd like to drop the long distance part of my AT&T phone
>> service to save those wasted bucks, but keep the land line for local
>> calls and continue using calling cards for LD. But I'm not sure it's
>> possible:
>>
>> If there is no long distance service for my land line, can I still
>> call toll-free 1-(8xx) numbers from it? I have to first call one of
>> those 800 numbers to place a calling card call.
>>
>> And I'm assuming if I only have local service on my land line, I can
>> still RECEIVE long distance calls....is this correct?
>
> Remember, if you sign up with OneSuite or TalkLoop and use local
> numbers, it's usually cheaper than any calling card on the market, plus
> you don't have to enter a PIN number if you program in your home number
> into their system. Also OneSuite has access numbers all over the world.
>
> The only issue with not having any long distance provider on your
> account is that if you ever need to send a FAX it can be difficult to do
> using a prepaid service or calling card. I've managed to do it manually,
> but it was a pain. Now I use faxaway.com and fax from the PC. They
> charge a small amount per page, and $1/month, a much better deal than eFAX.
When I worked for a phone card distributor we sometimes had to send
overseas faxes. Since using our own cards was cheaper than direct dial
it became a mildly cumbersome process
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 6:12 pm
From: Ken Lay
In article
<b7c8c006-e32e-4ea1-8508-c0e0ab728d6c@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
> DTMF code is handled more efficiently partly due less need for a
> buffer between pulsed numbers. The result is a faster call with less
> line time overall. It adds up over millions of calls.
Yeah, especially when those millions of calls are all made by one person.
--
Everybody lies. George W. Bush and Dick Cheney just suck at it.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 7:04 pm
From: George Grapman
There are many other things the telcos do not want you to know. In
California:
Failure to pay for enhanced services such as Caller ID can only result
in termination of those services,not disconnection.
Failure to pay for yellow pages ads can not cause termination.
If your phone service has not been shut off in 12 months they can not do
that until your past die bill is double your average monthly bill.
When you call the business office and tell them you are not
interested in adding services they must address the issue you called
about before trying to sell added services.
If you are a renter there is no need to but the inside wiring
protection plan as your landlord must cover that.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 7:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Al Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:
>>> joshhemm...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>>>> I've been paying around $5.00 a month in fees and taxes just for
>>>> the priviledge of having AT&T Long Distance service on my land
>>>> line. I never use their LD service, preferring to use prepaid
>>>> calling cards instead. I'd like to drop the long distance part of
>>>> my AT&T phone service to save those wasted bucks, but keep the
>>>> land line for local calls and continue using calling cards for LD.
>>>> But I'm not sure it's possible:
>>>>
>>>> If there is no long distance service for my land line, can I still
>>>> call toll-free 1-(8xx) numbers from it? I have to first call one
>>>> of those 800 numbers to place a calling card call.
>>>>
>>>> And I'm assuming if I only have local service on my land line, I
>>>> can still RECEIVE long distance calls....is this correct?
>>>
>>> Sure you can. I have done that for as long as possible. When I need
>>> to make a LD call out I use one of those 10-10 dial-arounds. The
>>> rates are pretty good. Incoming calls are not affected by not
>>> taking the AT&T LD. I also use the old pulse dial system, known as
>>> rotary. My phone has buttons and dials the pulse. If the
>>> destination has a menu that requires a touch tone phone, I switch
>>> the phone to tone instead of pulse and the menu options work fine.
>>> I switch back after the call.
>>
>>> The phone companies like to charge more for touch tone service
>>> when it actually saves them money over accepting a pulse.
>>
>> No it doesnt.
> DTMF code is handled more efficiently partly due
> less need for a buffer between pulsed numbers.
And that difference doesnt save them a cent.
> The result is a faster call with less line time overall.
And that difference doesnt save them a cent.
> It adds up over millions of calls.
No it doesnt when the difference doesnt even save them a thousandth of a cent.
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TOPIC: Campbell Soup porition size
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 3:35 pm
From: "Bartc"
<ant30dio@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6106b43b-165b-42a6-badc-083c6accf558@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> is it my eyes or did Campbell Soup start making there portions smaller
> on the canned soup.
> I dont have an older can around to check, but it sure looks like it.
> Guess they think no one will notice.
> This can is 10 3/4 OZ.
I vaguely remember them as 298g so sounds about right.
But the serving size seems to be 2/5 of a can which is rather odd. Has
anyone ever opened a can and only used 2/5 (or 4/5 between two) of the
contents?
--
Bartc
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TOPIC: DIY Reverse Mortgage?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 3:43 pm
From: Al Bundy
On Nov 12, 12:35 pm, "viet nam vet." <georgewks...@humboldt1.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <georgewkspam-7B93FA.07584510112...@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> "viet nam vet." <georgewks...@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>
> > suggestions?
>
> The place should be worth the $100,000 we seek, Sure , It's near the
> California coast, but inland enough to avoid the coastal fog. And sure
> there are e-quakes but our homestead in on bedrock.
> It's only 1/4 acre but we are on a cul de sac. True the garden doesn't
> produce all the food we eat, but each year we do more , fruit trees and
> raised beds.
> I know the two car garage is not all redwood but we get two cars into it.
> And an area for welding and parking the "bike".
> The "problem" for the establishment lenders is the older mobile that is
> our home. It's a 1959 Rex. and it's so ugly we covered it in cedar
> shingles. In 1959 they only built these "beauties" out of real plywood.
> Particle board hadn't be invented. thank goddess.
>
> Anyway, It's paid for and we don't have to get this loan. It's just a
> dream.
> --
> When the Power of Love,replaces the Love of Power.
> that's Evolution.
It sounds like the real value is the land, less the cost of
demolition. Still, I'm not knocking it as it may be very comfortable.
From any third party point of view, if it's really worth $100K, you
might only hope to see a payment based on $60K and your life
expectancy. Maybe you can't borrow on it, but it still pays you
dividends in paid-up country living.
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TOPIC: Evading parking tickets
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Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 4:04 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <gfeklo$1pl$2@news.eternal-september.org>, George wrote:
>Bay Area Holdout wrote:
>> "Bruce C. Miller" <bm3719@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2574f78a-6a76-4d69-8037-c62837e7014e@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>>> I've gotten two parking tickets yesterday, both for expired license
>>> plate tags. Normally, I'd give in and pay it, but since the expired
>>> plates are from Pennsylvania and I moved to Virginia a year ago, I'm
>>> thinking that if they tried to send a bill to my old address, it would
>>> be returned to sender. I never got valid Virginia license plates, so
>>> tracking me to my current address might not be easy.
>>>
>>> Anyone tried to evade parking tickets or have a good reason to think I
>>> might be able to get away without paying these? Together they are $80,
>>> so it'd be nice to keep my hard-earned money, not to mention I'd hate
>>> to see money going to a local government that hassles people with
>>> stupid stuff like this.
>>
>> Are you sure they are Parking Tickets? Parking Tickets are for illegal
>> parking. Might make sense to get on the Net and punch in the Virginia
>> Vehicle Code number(s) they say you violated. I'm sure they'll come up, they
>> do here in CA.
>>
>> After awhile they'll make it into the systems and you could get a bench
>> warrant issued. Next time you ever get pulled over, out come the bracelets
>> and off you go. Tell it to the judge....
>> Happened to a guy I knew for pledging the pay a bus fare and he never did,
>> arrested when he got pulled over two years later!
>
>Thats what they would do in PA. If you leave an unregistered car on the
>street it is a violation of the motor vehicle code. They will ticket you
>and if you don't respond a bench warrant will be issued.
In Philadelphia, it is illegal to park on the street a car that cannot
be legally driven. You can get parking tickets for expired registration
and expired inspection stickers. (I do not often see that actually
happen.) I just wish they got more aggressive against people
double-parking close to and even alongside empty parking spaces.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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TOPIC: Low water toilets false frugality
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 12 2008 9:39 pm
From: no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID)
In article <georgewkspam-3BF6FD.09252712112008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
viet nam vet. <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>In article <gfc4hp$don$1@aioe.org>, Chris <chris@chris.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> You did not mention this, so I have to ask. My toilet has a short and a
>> long flush, meaning that if I keep the lever down a second or so it will
>> discharge more water, usually enough to avoid having to flush again.
>>
>> If I hit and immediately release the lever it will discharge only about
>> half of the water in the tank.
>
>You can convert an old toilet to do this , by replacing the chain inside
>with a solid metal rod. You might have to hold the handle down for more
>that a second or so. Hold it till the job is done.
>Enjoy .
Or fill the bulb on the flapper with silicone caulk.
m
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