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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 13 2008 11:23 pm
From: "S'mee"

On Nov 13, 8:31 pm, BrianNZ <br...@itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> So, what ya gonna do '.'?

Listen and laugh at the wimps whining about the very people they put
in office. Then watch their envious eyes as I ride my motorcycle and
they have no car (reposesed) no house (again repo'd) While I still own
two houses. Might even shoot a few that try to steal anything I own.
Talk to the cops and get off before it even goes to court as
justifiable.
--
Keith

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 3:32 am
From: Kurt Ullman

In article
<066eafed-5fe8-463e-a29b-a03e94afbcee@i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"S'mee" <stevenkeith2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Anyway I figure we have the PERFECT government for the idiots that put
> it in place. I'm going to LOVE the next for years. Why you ask because
> I LOVE to hear idiots whine...
>
Just like I have for the last 8 years.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 7:24 am
From: "Bob Myers"

"." <bbbbbdfgdfgdgddfg@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:4e668249-1241-44be-bf97-5829423457d6@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

[lots of idiocy snipped]

And you can tell it's idiocy from the moment it becomes clear
that the writer is incapable of seeing anything in terms other
than "white" and "non-white."

Bob M.

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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 1:11 am
From: "Bob Eager"

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:26:01 UTC, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
wrote:

> In article <2l6ph4pvf77e8lssdn7eggq99iv6efb220@4ax.com>,
> Mike <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> > [ ... ] Then they tumble dry the washing into
> >submission when they have a house on a 2 acre plot and outside its 80
> >deg C, with a gentle breeze and blue sky as far as you can see.
> [ ... ]
>
> >Not my words but essentially those of a Professor in fabric technology
> >at a UK university.
>
> You have a professor at a UK university who thinks places in the US
> routinely have 80C temperatures? That's 176F; doesn't happen.

Making a lot out of a typo, aren't you?

> Might explain the state of education in the UK...

Don't get me started on US education....but we could start with the mad
Zero Tolerance system (e.g. the student punished for having a miniature
baseball bat in his car - yes, a trophy awarded by that very school...)

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== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 1:51 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
> you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,

W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
fixed if it fails.

> So European washing machines don't need a hot water supply, but
> they are all about 2.5kW, which is well over what can be drawn
> from a US outlet.
^
110V

A lot of US houses have 220V, too, especially for domestic appliances.

> IME, European machines have very much more effective
> spin drying cycles

IME, European washing machines are superior in every respect to American ones.
And as for a stacked tumble drier on top of a top-loading washing machine... I
nearly peed myself laughing the first time I saw one.

--
"I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose
happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson
[email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 4:29 am
From: clams_casino

Bob Eager wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:26:01 UTC, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>In article <2l6ph4pvf77e8lssdn7eggq99iv6efb220@4ax.com>,
>>Mike <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>[ ... ] Then they tumble dry the washing into
>>>submission when they have a house on a 2 acre plot and outside its 80
>>>deg C, with a gentle breeze and blue sky as far as you can see.
>>>
>>>
>> [ ... ]
>>
>>
>>
>>>Not my words but essentially those of a Professor in fabric technology
>>>at a UK university.
>>>
>>>
>>You have a professor at a UK university who thinks places in the US
>>routinely have 80C temperatures? That's 176F; doesn't happen.
>>
>>
>
>Making a lot out of a typo, aren't you?
>
>
>

I suppose the "heat it to boiling for a couple of hours" claim was also
a typo?

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 5:39 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-14, clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Bob Eager wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:26:01 UTC, gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>In article <2l6ph4pvf77e8lssdn7eggq99iv6efb220@4ax.com>,
>>>Mike <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>[ ... ] Then they tumble dry the washing into
>>>>submission when they have a house on a 2 acre plot and outside its 80
>>>>deg C, with a gentle breeze and blue sky as far as you can see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not my words but essentially those of a Professor in fabric technology
>>>>at a UK university.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You have a professor at a UK university who thinks places in the US
>>>routinely have 80C temperatures? That's 176F; doesn't happen.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Making a lot out of a typo, aren't you?
>>
>>
>>
>
> I suppose the "heat it to boiling for a couple of hours" claim was also
> a typo?

No, it was the truth.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 6:59 am
From: trader4@optonline.net

On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
> > you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>
> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
> fixed if it fails.
>

The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
other front loading machines sold in the US use. And it's not hard
to find, Tide is one common brand. I would also not assume that the
Bosch's sold in the US are the same, or even similar to those sold in
Europe.

> > So European washing machines don't need a hot water supply, but
> > they are all about 2.5kW, which is well over what can be drawn
> > from a US outlet.
>
> ^
> 110V
>
> A lot of US houses have 220V, too, especially for domestic appliances.
>
> > IME, European machines have very much more effective
> > spin drying cycles
>
> IME, European washing machines are superior in every respect to American ones.
> And as for a stacked tumble drier on top of a top-loading washing machine... I
> nearly peed myself laughing the first time I saw one.
>
> --
> "I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose
> happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson
> [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 7:00 am
From: trader4@optonline.net

On Nov 14, 8:39 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2008-11-14, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bob Eager wrote:
>
> >>On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:26:01 UTC, ghes...@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>In article <2l6ph4pvf77e8lssdn7eggq99iv6efb...@4ax.com>,
> >>>Mike <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>[ ... ] Then they tumble dry the washing into
> >>>>submission when they have a house on a 2 acre plot and outside its 80
> >>>>deg C, with a gentle breeze and blue sky as far as you can see.
>
> >>> [ ... ]
>
> >>>>Not my words but essentially those of a Professor in fabric technology
> >>>>at a UK university.
>
> >>>You have a professor at a UK university who thinks places in the US
> >>>routinely have 80C temperatures? That's 176F; doesn't happen.
>
> >>Making a lot out of a typo, aren't you?
>
> > I suppose the "heat it to boiling for a couple of hours" claim was also
> > a typo?
>
> No, it was the truth.

What an ignoramus.

>
> --
> "I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose
> happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others." - Thomas Jefferson
> [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 7:14 am
From: Huge

On 2008-11-14, trader4@optonline.net <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
>> > you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>>
>> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
>> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>> fixed if it fails.
>>
>
>
> The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
> other front loading machines sold in the US use.

And there are shitloads of those, right?

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 10:33 am
From: Rod

Huge wrote:
> On 2008-11-14, trader4@optonline.net <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 14, 4:51 am, Huge <H...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2008-11-13, Andrew Gabriel <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> US has more started becoming concerned about wash economy too, but
>>>> you can't simply put a European washing machine in the US,
>>> W-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-lll. You can buy Bosch front-loaders in the US now, although as
>>> you say, low foam detergents are hard to find, and rumour has it that Bosch
>>> don't have much of a service operation in the US, so it will be hard to get it
>>> fixed if it fails.
>>>
>>
>> The Bosch's sold in the US use the same HE detergents that all the
>> other front loading machines sold in the US use.
>
> And there are shitloads of those, right?
>
Actually, this thread prompted me to have a quick look at the Maytag
site. (Couldn't think of another make.) Quite a few front loaders. 6 out
of 15.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 8:15 am
From: OhioGuy

I'm in the market for a new digital camera to use for taking pictures
for some freelance writing I do. (magazines pay more for articles with
included pictures)

I need something that is:

1) at minimum 8 or 9 MP resolution

2) has an actual viewfinder to look through

3) 8x to 9x optical zoom or more

4) uses 4 AA batteries, not 2
(I've found from past experience that the cameras that only
use 2 simply won't let you take enough pictures)

5) under $200

Now I've seen a number of models that seem close to what I am looking
for, but nothing that meets all of these. We are getting pretty close
to Black Friday, but I don't know if any higher end digital cameras like
this tend to be discounted, or whether it might be worth waiting another
couple weeks for a potential deal.

For now, can anyone recommend a camera that you use which meets the
specs above? Thanks!

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:51 am
From: BigDog1

On Nov 14, 9:15 am, OhioGuy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new digital camera to use for taking pictures
> for some freelance writing I do. (magazines pay more for articles with
> included pictures)
>
> I need something that is:
>
> 1) at minimum 8 or 9 MP resolution
>
> 2) has an actual viewfinder to look through
>
> 3) 8x to 9x optical zoom or more
>
> 4) uses 4 AA batteries, not 2
> (I've found from past experience that the cameras that only
> use 2 simply won't let you take enough pictures)
>
> 5) under $200
>
> Now I've seen a number of models that seem close to what I am looking
> for, but nothing that meets all of these. We are getting pretty close
> to Black Friday, but I don't know if any higher end digital cameras like
> this tend to be discounted, or whether it might be worth waiting another
> couple weeks for a potential deal.
>
> For now, can anyone recommend a camera that you use which meets the
> specs above? Thanks!

Take a look at the Fuji FinePix S1000fd. It's the only one out there
I know of that meets all of your criteria. But, as a serious amateur
photographer I personally wouldn't recommend it, especially if you're
trying to produce publication quality photos. It gets very mixed
reviews in terms of reliability and build quality. I've had one in my
hands and think it's pretty junky. There's more to picture quality
than resolution. The optics are much more important.

To get something that meets all of your criteria you're going to have
to at least double, or maybe triple your budget. If you're actually
making money from your writing it's a deductible expense, so why not
buy a good one?

The markup on digital cameras isn't that much. It's not very likely
you're going to find anything with these specs, within your budget, in
a Black Friday sale unless it's a door buster with only a hand full
available that will require you to camp out overnight to have a shot
at one.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 10:00 am
From: Jeff

What exactly are your publishers asking for?
>
> 2) has an actual viewfinder to look through

Only SLR's have an "actual" view finder that shows the actual (or
close to it) image. None are in the $200 range. A digital view screen
should work well enough for you.

>
> 3) 8x to 9x optical zoom or more

That's a lot of zoom, why do you need that. Are you taking pictures
from far away?

Unless I miss my guess, what you really need is some form of macro.
Most macros don't work at full zoom.

But, what you really need in a camera is different than what you've
asked about.

Key features in a "real" camera:

1) Ability to control exposure. Ideally you should be able to control
exposure in 1/3 f stops.

2) Ability to control depth of field. Typically this means
controlling f stop. In a small camera this would be from f2.8 to f8 in
1/2 stop increments. Look for an "aperture" priority setting. You don't
want a camera that only has automatic features. Usually you'll see an
"A" for aperture priority and a "T" for time priority. Look for another
camera if it doesn't have that as a minimum.

3) Ability to control focus. This may just be an indication of where
the focus is set to. If it is not where you want, you can recompose.

That is what you really need to control the picture. There are
cameras with high megapixels that are essentially worthless because they
don't allow you to set any of those. You'll also want a camera that is
ergonomically easy enough to use that you don't have to drill through
menus to get to that.

I can alway recommend Cannon but not all Cannons have those features.
If you get a AA operated camera, go buy a set of NiMh rechargeables to
go with it. About $20 with charger. Alkalines won't last long. More
expensive cameras will have a LiIon battery.

Jeff
>
> 4) uses 4 AA batteries, not 2
> (I've found from past experience that the cameras that only
> use 2 simply won't let you take enough pictures)
>
> 5) under $200
>
> Now I've seen a number of models that seem close to what I am looking
> for, but nothing that meets all of these. We are getting pretty close
> to Black Friday, but I don't know if any higher end digital cameras like
> this tend to be discounted, or whether it might be worth waiting another
> couple weeks for a potential deal.
>
> For now, can anyone recommend a camera that you use which meets the
> specs above? Thanks!

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 10:36 am
From: Al Bundy

OhioGuy wrote:
> I'm in the market for a new digital camera to use for taking pictures
> for some freelance writing I do. (magazines pay more for articles with
> included pictures)
>
> I need something that is:
>
> 1) at minimum 8 or 9 MP resolution
>
> 2) has an actual viewfinder to look through
>
> 3) 8x to 9x optical zoom or more
>
> 4) uses 4 AA batteries, not 2
> (I've found from past experience that the cameras that only
> use 2 simply won't let you take enough pictures)
>
> 5) under $200
>
> Now I've seen a number of models that seem close to what I am looking
> for, but nothing that meets all of these. We are getting pretty close
> to Black Friday, but I don't know if any higher end digital cameras like
> this tend to be discounted, or whether it might be worth waiting another
> couple weeks for a potential deal.
>
> For now, can anyone recommend a camera that you use which meets the
> specs above? Thanks!

I've gone through probably a dozen digital cameras. The battery usage
has often been very bad. It is so bad on an HP I have that I rigged up
lithium ion batteries with a greater capacity and voltage to run it
properly. Then I switched to Canon. The "A" series Canon was designed
for alkaline batteries. They also allow rechargeable types. I take
pictures every day. I can be assured of taking over 100 pictures over
a few days without a problem. The book says 400+ on a charge. I just
recharge them based on a time basis every few weeks. So I recommend
Canon. They have models using four AA cells as you wanted. The high
level of zoom you seek is probably not going to happen for that $200
price. There are reasons for that too. Unless you use a tripod, even
the anti-shake won't prevent some fuzzy pictures at that level of
zoom. In such cases you are better off taking pictures with less zoom
and cropping them on your computer. I suggest at least 4X optical
zoom, but more is not really helpful unless you plan to use a tripod.

Partly off topic, I also have an old Sony Mavica that takes pictures
on a floppy disk. The run time on the battery is over two hours
continuous operation. The pictures are only about about 75kb
(640X480) so that's a problem. The big advantage is that it has a 10X
optical zoom and a 1/4000 speed lens. Those zoomed pictures are very
clear. No tripod is needed. If I were not stuck on Canon, I would
consider something more modern from Sony because of their superior
engineering.

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TOPIC: Free Taco Bell Meal Cards ($50 Cards)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a8b6552ede7ea969?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 8:53 am
From: blondiewrites@gmail.com

Free Taco Bell Meal Cards ($50 Cards)

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:41 am
From: Cheapo Groovo

In article <4f677ebb-ccd2-447d-a269-70d1f7afe923
@a17g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, blondiewrites@gmail.com says...
> Free Taco Bell Meal Cards ($50 Cards)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5nnqgm
>
Requires you make purchases first.
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TOPIC: Campbell Soup porition size
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/64e2148dd373a346?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:16 am
From: "Roger Shoaf"

"Bartc" <bc@freeuk.com> wrote in message
news:RKJSk.86829$E41.17760@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
> <ant30dio@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6106b43b-165b-42a6-badc-083c6accf558@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > is it my eyes or did Campbell Soup start making there portions smaller
> > on the canned soup.
> > I dont have an older can around to check, but it sure looks like it.
> > Guess they think no one will notice.
> > This can is 10 3/4 OZ.
>
> I vaguely remember them as 298g so sounds about right.
>
> But the serving size seems to be 2/5 of a can which is rather odd. Has
> anyone ever opened a can and only used 2/5 (or 4/5 between two) of the
> contents?
>
> --
> Bartc
>

This is a nutri-label gimmick. Portion sizes are arbitrary but if the can
says that a portion is 2/5 of a can, then the numbers for fat, sodium or
calories are listed as being less.

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

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TOPIC: DIY Reverse Mortgage?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:28 am
From: "Roger Shoaf"

You have an almost 50 year old trailer that is depreciated to the point
where it is almost worthless.

The first lenders to bite the big one were the ones that would lend on
mobile homes.

Any value you have in your home is for the lot only, and that depends on the
neighborhood.

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
"viet nam vet." <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote in message
news:georgewkspam-5AFB37.09350012112008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net...
> In article
> <georgewkspam-7B93FA.07584510112008@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
> "viet nam vet." <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote:
>
> > suggestions?
>
> The place should be worth the $100,000 we seek, Sure , It's near the
> California coast, but inland enough to avoid the coastal fog. And sure
> there are e-quakes but our homestead in on bedrock.
> It's only 1/4 acre but we are on a cul de sac. True the garden doesn't
> produce all the food we eat, but each year we do more , fruit trees and
> raised beds.
> I know the two car garage is not all redwood but we get two cars into it.
> And an area for welding and parking the "bike".
> The "problem" for the establishment lenders is the older mobile that is
> our home. It's a 1959 Rex. and it's so ugly we covered it in cedar
> shingles. In 1959 they only built these "beauties" out of real plywood.
> Particle board hadn't be invented. thank goddess.
>
> Anyway, It's paid for and we don't have to get this loan. It's just a
> dream.
> --
> When the Power of Love,replaces the Love of Power.
> that's Evolution.

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TOPIC: what to do with old coffee?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1dc7fc7675771054?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 9:34 am
From: "Roger Shoaf"

<chilisincarne@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b47bf0d1-08b8-4585-ae33-6532d14f00a0@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> I got a dozen vacuum packed ground coffee packs that had best before
> date a month ago.
> What should I do with them? They are premium quality coffees.
>
> The best before date was about a year after packing date. Maybe they
> are still perfectly drinkable? Or should I use them for something
> else? Maybe cooking or making coffee drinks or sumthing? Any clever
> ideas?

Try drinking some. If it tastes ok to you then drink it, if it tastes bad
then toss it.

--
Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.

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TOPIC: Air Max shoes PAYPAL wholesale
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 10:10 am
From: air force1 shoes

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TOPIC: A new WheelChair is being researched by free energy, the Gravity...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/19c62ad38497fc28?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 14 2008 11:05 am
From: Al Bundy

On Nov 13, 10:39 am, mgulk1234 <musa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> An old failure, new success of a Renewable Energy Source: The gravity.
>
> Detailed info is in short youtube vid.s (30 sec each, and similar all)
> here:
>
> mgulk..
>
> Future Energy : The Gravity, For Free...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOTlogoPYZs
>
> Energy from gravity: an affordable self popelled wheel chair...www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlR2VEMXMkA
>
> Energy from gravity (pure mechanical) ...www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf7urAWuiu8

The video provides no useful information to understand how such a
device works.
We know a wheel chair will roll down hill. That's gravity working. To
go anywhere else you have to add energy. I can conceive of a device
that would allow a person to use their arms to lift a weight and build
up energy in some storage device. If they could do that, they could
push the wheel instead. That would be free. We know that batteries are
great for storing energy for wheelchairs and the user doesn't have to
be able to do anything except push a toggle on the arm. I don't think
there will be much savings by expecting disabled people to generate
their own power.

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