Friday, December 26, 2008

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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2e88fe97e53d6e6b?hl=en
* How to: Live on $12,000 a Year - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5093baecae696c12?hl=en
* Negro, hispanic crime ripping through America. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/dc68feb795ea956f?hl=en
* Usenet being phased out - 5 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/88e9e410905fb851?hl=en
* USB flash memory stick....reliable brand? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bd0aa371a1d77ee2?hl=en
* Save up to 80% on Electricity Bill Every Month. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/513e1beff3fcf3cb?hl=en
* ot: Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8e80385d4cd9e3d1?hl=en
* poverty line - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4eaa805a9a816468?hl=en

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 11:49 am
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TOPIC: How to: Live on $12,000 a Year
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 12:22 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Jonathan Grobe wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> Anyone who doesnt have significant housing costs can do that too.

> Have you priced health insurance lately?

You dont have to have to have that, most obviously if you're 25 etc.

> I live in a lower medical cost state and pay close to $7,000/year as a
> single person for health insurance--and expect a big increase next year..

See above.

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TOPIC: Negro, hispanic crime ripping through America.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 12:42 pm
From: "S'mee"


On Dec 25, 12:16 pm, "." <Rhiann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 25, 11:00 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's not that high, but obviously to someone of an IQ higher than luke
> > warm bath water Krusty and others of his ilk can't even live up to
> > that.
>
> My IQ is higher than tepid bath water, as indicated by the fact that
> my wit has scalded your tender ass on many occaions.

LOL tepid is colder than lukewarm loser. Scaleded my ass? ROTFLMAO you
are aren't even remoatly close to cold.
--
Keith

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TOPIC: Usenet being phased out
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 1:20 pm
From: Dave Garland


donsgal wrote:
> You can thank the spammers for it. The usenet has gotten to be a vast
> wasteland of spam messages and little else.

And that's different from e-mail how? Isn't e-mail something like 90%
spam?

Dave


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 4:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Dave Garland wrote
> donsgal wrote

>> You can thank the spammers for it. The usenet has gotten
>> to be a vast wasteland of spam messages and little else.

> And that's different from e-mail how? Isn't e-mail something like 90% spam?

Mine isnt.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 5:18 pm
From: The Real Bev


Michael Black wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Shawn Hirn wrote:
>
>> I work in the IT department of a university; one of the top ten in the
>> United States by student population. We stopped offering our user
>> community free Usenet service about six years ago. Actually, we did that
>> as a result of a problem on our Linux-based news server. The server
>> stopped receiving incoming news traffic. I spent a good deal of time
>> trying to troubleshoot the problem without success. I discussed the
>> situation with my boss and we decided to simply leave it alone. We
>> decided that because the reports we received on read requests to the
>> server had been hovering near zero for the better part of a year, we
>> were curious if anyone would notice.
>>
> ANd you've just explained why the big ISPs have dropped Usenet. No
> worry of legal problems, they've decided that not enough people are
> using it, so it's not worth the bother.

There were problems with Earthlink back when they were my ISP, and a guy
who was one of the news admins said they were getting constant flack
from upstairs because of the expense and the small number of users.

1 out of 60,000 is disgusting. Just how much time can you spend
grooming your MySpace site?

> When my previous ISP dropped the newsgroups about 2003, they were moving
> the servers and announced suddenly that the newsgroups would be gone
> temporarily. Four months later, they finally admitted that they'd
> not be back, since they were paying for them elsewhere they could no
> longer justify the cost. The way I read it, they found few complained
> so they realized they could cut the cost without any fuss, so they did.

When I call Charter because some service is down, the first-level person
doesn't even know what usenet or nntp is. I had to argue with the last
one before she kicked me upstairs. It's pitiful. If the 'forums'
weren't so ugly and difficult to read it might not be as awful as it is,
but I wonder just how long the free servers will be able to keep it up.

--
Cheers,
Bev
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"If you put the government in charge of the desert, there would
be a sand shortage within ten years." -- M. Friedman (?)


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 6:42 pm
From: "JR Weiss"


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote...
>
>> Isn't e-mail something like 90% spam?
>
> Mine isnt.

It is on the outbound side...


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 10:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


JR Weiss wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Isn't e-mail something like 90% spam?

>> Mine isnt.

> It is on the outbound side...

You have absolutely no idea what the outbound side consists of, fuckwit.

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TOPIC: USB flash memory stick....reliable brand?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 5:26 pm
From: The Real Bev


Dan Birchall wrote:

> carkenord@juno.com (carkenord@juno.com) wrote:
>> I am going to buy an 8gb USB flash memory stick.
>> Price has fallen down to about $2 per gig.
>> I want a "stick" with _NO_ U3 or software.
>> In terms of reliability and longevity, are there brands to avoid?
>> Are there brands that "stand out" as being better than average?
>> What's the opinion on SANDISK brand?
>
> Sandisk is a very reputable brand, significant share of the market.
> A friend just bought an 8GB stick, pretty sure it was Sandisk. He's
> happy with it.

Last time I looked Lexar cards were faster than others, but also more
expensive.

I've been happy with all the flash memory (CF, SD, SDHC) I've used, and
some I bought just because it was cheap. The annoying thing is that
after 8 years my card readers have worn out (no idea what breaks, but it
does) and the one that came with the windows machine doesn't see
anything bigger than 2G. I just ordered a multi-reader from an ebay
PC-goodies store in Oregon for $5.38 and no shipping or tax. We'll see.

--
Cheers,
Bev
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"If you put the government in charge of the desert, there would
be a sand shortage within ten years." -- M. Friedman (?)

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TOPIC: ot: Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 9:46 pm
From: JonL


Macuser wrote:
> Even if they had a videotape of his live birth in a Hawaiian hospital
> with an American flag in the delivery room this thing will NEVER go away.
>
>
Problem is, he hasn't produced anything to make it go away.

Strange, everything is sealed in the US, but one can easily find his
school registration from Indonesia. Obama became a naturalized citizen
of Indonesia, as Barry Soetoro. So what is he now, a naturalized cit of
the US?? I'd bet he registered at Columbia and Harvard as a foreign
student.

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Obama is tap dancing.

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TOPIC: poverty line
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 25 2008 10:18 pm
From: Dave Garland


Marsha wrote:
>>> We all have the opportunity to work hard and earn a
>>> decent living, unless you are mentally disabled, but it's not a right.
>>
>> A frail 80-year-old has the opportunity to work hard and earn a decent
>> living?

> The original link didn't mention the average age of those at poverty
> level. But I'd be willing to bet they're not all frail 80-year-olds.

Agreed. I merely threw out that example because you said "all", and
"all" is not accurate.

> who suck off the welfare tit for all it's worth. It's those who use it
> as a lifestyle, generation after generation, that I'm talking about.

Fair enough. But I don't think there are very many who fit into that
category (does any reliable source give figures for "generation after
generation"?). Certainly not (in monetary terms) as many as there who
own businesses and find ways to such off the government tit.

In my city, the guy who's probably the richest citizen, owner of a
sports team, has managed to get public financing (a special sales tax)
for a new stadium for his team. Mind you, the stadium isn't useful
for anything else, the public doesn't get any equity in the team, and
if, after a brief period, he decides to move or sell the team
elsewhere, we'll still be stuck with the bill for the stadium. You
can support a whole lot of people at welfare rates for that expense.
If I'm going to piss away tax money, I'd rather it go to the poor than
the rich.

Dave

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