Tuesday, December 16, 2008

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 13 new messages in 6 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Great price on flash drive - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/535aa5d17db8f034?hl=en
* Free email - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f602b0fad02ac2ab?hl=en
* Purchase All Available US Autos - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8da7acb0e572db51?hl=en
* NIKE AIR JORDAN FORCE FUSION SHOES AJF 5 V JORDANs 5 FUSION NIKE - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/58f579e46fd5c6ff?hl=en
* discount Air MAX LTD shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bd473d8c7dc30c06?hl=en
* overdraft - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/338ed10d1ea2929c?hl=en

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TOPIC: Great price on flash drive
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/535aa5d17db8f034?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 6:49 pm
From: Dave Garland


Forrest wrote:
> I thought I saw a question here not long ago, about flash drives. Anywhoo
> ... can't believe how cheap they are now. My brother asked me if I knew of
> any good deals on them and I just found this at NewEgg. Hard to beat, with
> the free shipping. I already have an 8 gig LG drive and can't say as I
> really use it that much but what the hell, for $9 after MIL, I'll bite. Just
> thought I would pass it on. Makes for a good stocking stuffer.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233037
>
>
But other people should be warned, that $10 rebate requires a sales
receipt dated no later than 12/15. Unless NewEgg is staying late
tonight, it's too late.

Dave


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 7:47 pm
From: "Forrest"

"Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
news:GY6dnRiHHoN_i9rUnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@posted.visi...
> Forrest wrote:
>> I thought I saw a question here not long ago, about flash drives. Anywhoo
>> ... can't believe how cheap they are now. My brother asked me if I knew
>> of
>> any good deals on them and I just found this at NewEgg. Hard to beat,
>> with
>> the free shipping. I already have an 8 gig LG drive and can't say as I
>> really use it that much but what the hell, for $9 after MIL, I'll bite.
>> Just
>> thought I would pass it on. Makes for a good stocking stuffer.
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233037
>>
>>
> But other people should be warned, that $10 rebate requires a sales
> receipt dated no later than 12/15. Unless NewEgg is staying late
> tonight, it's too late.
>
> Dave

Ah, good eyes. I didn't see that. Well, it's only 7 something PM, here in
California. I don't really NEED one but then again, the one that I have
could go out and I would probably have to pay a lot more to replace it.
How's that for a rationalization for spending money? I'm a real sucker for
free shipping.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Forrest wrote:
> "Dave Garland" <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> wrote in message
> news:GY6dnRiHHoN_i9rUnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@posted.visi...
>> Forrest wrote:
>>> I thought I saw a question here not long ago, about flash drives.
>>> Anywhoo ... can't believe how cheap they are now. My brother asked
>>> me if I knew of
>>> any good deals on them and I just found this at NewEgg. Hard to
>>> beat, with
>>> the free shipping. I already have an 8 gig LG drive and can't say
>>> as I really use it that much but what the hell, for $9 after MIL,
>>> I'll bite. Just
>>> thought I would pass it on. Makes for a good stocking stuffer.
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233037
>>>
>>>
>> But other people should be warned, that $10 rebate requires a sales
>> receipt dated no later than 12/15. Unless NewEgg is staying late
>> tonight, it's too late.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Ah, good eyes. I didn't see that. Well, it's only 7 something PM,
> here in California. I don't really NEED one but then again, the one
> that I have could go out and I would probably have to pay a lot more
> to replace it. How's that for a rationalization for spending money?
> I'm a real sucker for free shipping.

There's plenty on ebay for the same value, and 16Gs as well for the same price per GB

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TOPIC: Free email
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f602b0fad02ac2ab?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 7:39 pm
From: artsy6@gmail.com


Concerning Yahoo email, when I search it, it does not seem to include
emails over 1-year-old.

Is there any free email service that searches all of one's emails from
years back?

Thanks.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


artsy6@gmail.com wrote

> Concerning Yahoo email, when I search it, it does not seem to include emails over 1-year-old.

> Is there any free email service that searches all of one's emails from years back?

Google/gmail.

Better antispam than yahoo too.

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TOPIC: Purchase All Available US Autos
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8da7acb0e572db51?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:19 pm
From: SMS


Dave wrote:
>
> "lorad" <lorad474@cs.com> wrote in message
> news:1632a96d-2982-4282-8688-7248db34659d@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 13, 7:20 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Asian auto-maker propaganda [snipped]
>
>> Rather than sending your dollars to Tokyo or Seoul, try to help your
>> neighbors and yourself by buying a US made automobile.
>
> OK, I'll go buy a 2009 Toyota Camry. I'll get my wife a 2009 Acura
> RDX. I'll buy my son a 2009 Hyundai Sonata. All made with pride by U.S.
> workers in U.S. factories. :) -Dave

Better that than a Ford Fusion made in Mexico. Talk about traitorous.
The least these companies can do is to manufacture products in the same
country that they're being sold in.

What we really need to do is to be sure to buy vehicles _manufactured_
in the U.S., regardless of where the company's headquarters is located.
We wouldn't want Australians or Englishmen to stop buying Ford products
manufactured in their own countries.

Thank goodness that so many European and Asian manufacturers decided to
set up factories in the U.S.. We need these good paying manufacturing jobs.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:24 pm
From: SMS


Dave Head wrote:

> Everyone is into either hating the auto workers or hating the corporate
> executives. They seem to forget we're all Americans, and hurting either of
> these groups hurts the country.
>
> I just did a price compare between a Jeep Liberty configured the way I would
> buy it at $25,300 MSRP with a $750 factory rebate, and a Toyota FJ Cruiser, the
> nearst thing to the liberty, that starts at $24,635 before options. They
> don't seem to quote the options on their site. But... how does Jeep do that
> with all those "incredibly expensive" auto workers? Maybe because the labor
> rate thing, and its significance to the prices of the cars, is a myth?

No, it's because the price that the market will bear for such a vehicle
is independent of the cost of producing the vehicle.

The real difference in price comes in when you calculate how long the FJ
Cruiser will last versus how long the Liberty will last. That's the
problem that the big 3 are running into; many buyers are able to look
beyond the differences in the purchase price and take into account
factors like longevity, reliability, etc.

It is quite unfair to put the blame for this crisis on the shoulders of
the UAW. It's the big 3 management that made the decisions that led to
this. A transfer of money to the big 3 isn't going to fix the problem,
something needs to be done to get people buying vehicles.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:38 pm
From: Dave Head


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:24:36 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>Dave Head wrote:
>
>> Everyone is into either hating the auto workers or hating the corporate
>> executives. They seem to forget we're all Americans, and hurting either of
>> these groups hurts the country.
>>
>> I just did a price compare between a Jeep Liberty configured the way I would
>> buy it at $25,300 MSRP with a $750 factory rebate, and a Toyota FJ Cruiser, the
>> nearst thing to the liberty, that starts at $24,635 before options. They
>> don't seem to quote the options on their site. But... how does Jeep do that
>> with all those "incredibly expensive" auto workers? Maybe because the labor
>> rate thing, and its significance to the prices of the cars, is a myth?
>
>No, it's because the price that the market will bear for such a vehicle
>is independent of the cost of producing the vehicle.
>
>The real difference in price comes in when you calculate how long the FJ
>Cruiser will last versus how long the Liberty will last. That's the
>problem that the big 3 are running into; many buyers are able to look
>beyond the differences in the purchase price and take into account
>factors like longevity, reliability, etc.

Iike I said elsewhere in the thread, I've had 3 Jeeps, and each has been better
than the last. The '98 Cherokee is 10 years old, has 195K miles, and I drove
it to Michigan, 800 miles one way, to go deer hunting last month. Nary a
problem, other than the AC could use being charged, but that's it. Runs like a
top, and there isn't much else that goes thru snow like that one. And of
course it is 10 years old - the ones they're building today I expect are quite
a bit better than my '98. All the American cars have been getting better -
dramatically - over the last 10 - 15 years.

>It is quite unfair to put the blame for this crisis on the shoulders of
>the UAW. It's the big 3 management that made the decisions that led to
>this. A transfer of money to the big 3 isn't going to fix the problem,
>something needs to be done to get people buying vehicles.

Well, the UAW is the ones that all get together and strike, and the companies
have either to give in to the outrageous demands, or suffer months of
non-production. They earn a lot of that hate, as do the corporate executives.
We just have to restrain ourselves and remember what we need to do if we ever
want to see prosperity again.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 8:56 pm
From: edward ohare


On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:38:33 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:


>We just have to restrain ourselves and remember what we need to do if we ever
>want to see prosperity again.


Short list:

1) Elect people who don't spend money we don't have
2) Cut way back on the armed forces
3) Better education


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 9:19 pm
From: Dave Head


On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:56:38 -0500, edward ohare
<edward_ohare@nospam.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:38:33 GMT, Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net> wrote:
>
>
>>We just have to restrain ourselves and remember what we need to do if we ever
>>want to see prosperity again.
>
>
>Short list:
>
>1) Elect people who don't spend money we don't have

There are no such people any more.

>2) Cut way back on the armed forces

Wanna go to a militia? Just wait for the foreign invasion, and fight them on
the ground with small arms on our own soil. No need to project power around
the world - we can do it all ourselves. Hope you don't mind drilling, and 2
weeks of maneuvers each year, until you're 60 years old...

Hey, it'll be just like, "Red Dawn..."

The rest of the world would _sooo_ take advantage of us if we didn't keep up a
strong military...

>3) Better education

Is that even possible any more? The bone-headed school administrations around
the country are all sidetracked in worry about students' self esteem, and so
can't possibly grade their work fairly. There can't be anyone allowed to fail,
y'know?

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TOPIC: discount Air MAX LTD shoes
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TOPIC: overdraft
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Dec 15 2008 10:49 pm
From: tmclone@searchmachine.com


On Dec 11, 10:24 pm, phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
>
> Ive been hosed by several major banks on such scams...
>
> I need an account to cash my clients checks..
> but have no
>
>  credit, or debit card on the account and no checks.   I buy money
> orders when I need to.
>
> they try real hard to get me to sign up for a credit card or
> checks...these  over draft charges of 35 dollars are a pure rip off,
> especially  on a 5 dollar check... they set up the deposit timing,
> holds and the order of processing your checks so that it maxes the
> number that will bounce.
>
> that was a news story a few years ago.
>

Good god. How is not releasing funds immediately a "scam"? Get a
credit card and use that for all purchases and no more overdrafts. If
you have a problem with people giving you bad checks, cash all checks
at the issuing bank, and again, no more overdrafts. Buying a money
order when you could just use a check or a credit card? You're
kidding, right?

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