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Friday, January 23, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 24 new messages in 8 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Good deal on LSD batteries?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/883c9288f70b4b1b?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 12:38 pm
From: SMS

Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote in news:gl9vpr$2er7$2@news.ett.com.ua:
>
>>> Costco?
>> No Costco stores around here, unless I drive 2 hours.
>>
>
> Order online?

Costco no longer sells the eneloop or other LSD batteries, at least in
Northern California.

When they did, it was eight AA and two AAA and some adapters for C&D and
a charger, though for a brief period they sold just the battery assortment.

The eneloops also used to be sold at Wal-Mart, but no more.

See "http://tinyurl.com/eneloopthomas". $9.97 for four, but the shipping
is very high.

Amazing that these batteries seem to be about the only technology item
that's going _up_ in price.

I did see one Sanyo digital camera that came with two eneloop batteries
and a charger. Sanyo is actually the world's largest digital camera
manufacturer, but they mainly manufacture for other companies, and don't
sell much under their own brand.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 1:59 pm
From: The Real Bev

SMS wrote:

> Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>> OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote in news:gl9vpr$2er7$2@news.ett.com.ua:
>>
>>>> Costco?
>>> No Costco stores around here, unless I drive 2 hours.
>>
>> Order online?
>
> Costco no longer sells the eneloop or other LSD batteries, at least in
> Northern California.
>
> When they did, it was eight AA and two AAA and some adapters for C&D and
> a charger, though for a brief period they sold just the battery assortment.
>
> The eneloops also used to be sold at Wal-Mart, but no more.
>
> See "http://tinyurl.com/eneloopthomas". $9.97 for four, but the shipping
> is very high.

Duracell makes 'precharged' batteries, their equivalent to the eneloops
(somebody says they actually ARE eneloops, just rebranded). I'm satisfied with
them.

http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries-4-Pack/dp/B000XSA60I
4 AA cells/$12.06+shipping+tax , but you can find them cheaper.

> Amazing that these batteries seem to be about the only technology item
> that's going _up_ in price.
>
> I did see one Sanyo digital camera that came with two eneloop batteries
> and a charger. Sanyo is actually the world's largest digital camera
> manufacturer, but they mainly manufacture for other companies, and don't
> sell much under their own brand.

Consider the possibility that every single item that in any way involves the use
of electricity is made by a single monstrous factory complex in China.

--
Cheers,
Bev
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to
spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and
begin slitting throats." -- H.L. Mencken

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 5:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>
>> Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>> OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote in news:gl9vpr$2er7$2@news.ett.com.ua:
>>>
>>>>> Costco?
>>>> No Costco stores around here, unless I drive 2 hours.
>>>
>>> Order online?
>>
>> Costco no longer sells the eneloop or other LSD batteries, at least
>> in Northern California.
>>
>> When they did, it was eight AA and two AAA and some adapters for C&D
>> and a charger, though for a brief period they sold just the battery
>> assortment. The eneloops also used to be sold at Wal-Mart, but no more.
>>
>> See "http://tinyurl.com/eneloopthomas". $9.97 for four, but the
>> shipping is very high.
>
> Duracell makes 'precharged' batteries, their equivalent to the
> eneloops (somebody says they actually ARE eneloops, just rebranded). I'm satisfied with them.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Charged-Rechargeable-Batteries-4-Pack/dp/B000XSA60I
> 4 AA cells/$12.06+shipping+tax , but you can find them cheaper.
>
>> Amazing that these batteries seem to be about the only technology
>> item that's going _up_ in price.
>>
>> I did see one Sanyo digital camera that came with two eneloop
>> batteries and a charger. Sanyo is actually the world's largest
>> digital camera manufacturer, but they mainly manufacture for other
>> companies, and don't sell much under their own brand.
>
> Consider the possibility that every single item that in any way involves the use of electricity is made by a single
> monstrous factory complex in China.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:31 pm
From: "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds"

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:cL4el.560$Lr6.462
@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:

I could have sworn I saw them in the Rancho Cordova Store just last week.
Could be a brain fart, but...

>
> When they did, it was eight AA and two AAA and some adapters for C&D and
> a charger, though for a brief period they sold just the battery
assortment.
>
> The eneloops also used to be sold at Wal-Mart, but no more.
>
> See "http://tinyurl.com/eneloopthomas". $9.97 for four, but the shipping
> is very high.
>
> Amazing that these batteries seem to be about the only technology item
> that's going _up_ in price.
>
> I did see one Sanyo digital camera that came with two eneloop batteries
> and a charger. Sanyo is actually the world's largest digital camera
> manufacturer, but they mainly manufacture for other companies, and don't
> sell much under their own brand.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:36 pm
From: "Malcolm \"Mal\" Reynolds"

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:cL4el.560$Lr6.462
@flpi143.ffdc.sbc.com:

http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=717445

http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/800688

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TOPIC: Ebay alternative?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/81ad82de073681df?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 12:54 pm
From: clams_casino

OhioGuy wrote:

> >93 would be a piss-poor ebay feedback rating,
>
> Sorry, my mistake. I had a 100% feedback rating, but only 93 total
> feedbacks. (sales) Ebay decided you had to have at least 100 sales in
> order to keep selling without taking Paypal/credit cards. Probably
> now they just force everybody.
>
> I just got tired of the higher and higher fees, then forcing me to
> do things ways I didn't want.
>
> The 2nd to last straw was when they really increased fees on DVD's.
>
>
> The LAST straw was when they decided to tell me how much I was going
> to be reimbursed for shipping DVD's. Has anyone even looked at that?
> It costs me about 20 to 25% MORE than they now allow to ship a DVD,
> including the packaging materials. That is for media mail shipping,
> which is fairly inexpensive. I have no idea why they think I would
> take a loss in order to sell on there.

The trick is to ship via <calculated cost - varies by buyer location>.
You can add a S/H to achieve any total S/H you want. For items < lb,
you can also simply add a few ounces to the input weight.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 12:55 pm
From: clams_casino

Dave wrote:

>
> "OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:gl9vj3$2er7$1@news.ett.com.ua...
>
>> >93 would be a piss-poor ebay feedback rating,
>>
>> Sorry, my mistake. I had a 100% feedback rating, but only 93 total
>> feedbacks. (sales) Ebay decided you had to have at least 100 sales
>> in order to keep selling without taking Paypal/credit cards.
>> Probably now they just force everybody.
>
>
> Well yet one more reason to avoid ebay. I haven't sold anything on
> ebay in quite a while. My feedback is just shy of 100, and I'd NEVER
> accept paypal as a payment method. I'd never accept credit cards,
> either. -Dave

For me, Paypal is the only way to go. I'd never buy anything off eBay
without a credit card funded Paypal payment. It's the only way to
guard against crooked sellers.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 12:57 pm
From: clams_casino

h wrote:

>"JR Weiss" <jrweiss@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:glaa2u$bn0$1@news.motzarella.org...
>
>
>>"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote...
>>
>>
>>>>Well yet one more reason to avoid ebay. I haven't sold anything on ebay
>>>>in quite a while. My feedback is just shy of 100, and I'd NEVER accept
>>>>paypal as a payment method. I'd never accept credit cards,
>>>>ither. -Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>So how on earth would you get paid?
>>>
>>>
>>Cash; Postal Money Order...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>Umm, ok. You can't mail cash and you really think buyers would be willing to
>go to the post office, buy a money order, mail it, and then have to wait for
>it to arrive and be cashed before the item can ship? You're kidding, right?
>And a personal check would take even longer, since it can take 10 business
>days to clear. And how do you handle foreign transactions and currency
>exchange?
>
>If I can't do the entire transaction from my keyboard I don't want any part
>of it. I think most buyers are like that, at least most of mine.
>
>
>
>
It worked for causal sellers, but those selling numerous items soon
realize money orders and checks really cost more in the long run with
respect to time.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 1:00 pm
From: clams_casino

JR Weiss wrote:

>"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote...
>
>
>>>>>Well yet one more reason to avoid ebay. I haven't sold anything on ebay in
>>>>>quite a while. My feedback is just shy of 100, and I'd NEVER accept paypal
>>>>>as a payment method. I'd never accept credit cards, ither. >>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>So how on earth would you get paid?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Cash; Postal Money Order...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Umm, ok. You can't mail cash and you really think buyers would be willing to
>>go to the post office, buy a money order, mail it, and then have to wait for
>>it to arrive and be cashed before the item can ship? You're kidding, right?
>>And a personal check would take even longer, since it can take 10 business
>>days to clear. And how do you handle foreign transactions and currency
>>exchange?
>>
>>
>
>As I said earlier, sell locally and use craigslist. For buying, use a real
>store.
>
>
>
>
>>If I can't do the entire transaction from my keyboard I don't want any part of
>>it. I think most buyers are like that, at least most of mine.
>>
>>
>
>Most of my buyers are more than willing to come to the house and pick up the
>stuff. On occasion I'll deliver to theirs...
>
>
>
>
I've had a few pick up items, but due to the time involved with setting
up appointments, etc, I soon realized it was a very time consuming
inconvenience. Along that line, it amazes me that someone would drive
10 miles to "save" $3-5 in S/H. For large items not easily mailed, it
obviously makes sense, but for smaller, mailable items, pickups
typically make no sense for the buyer or seller.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 1:03 pm
From: clams_casino

Shawn Hirn wrote:

>In article <gl7qud$1ecc$1@news.ett.com.ua>, OhioGuy <none@none.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>> I've been looking for an alternative to Ebay to sell some things on,
>>ever since they jacked their fees up about a year ago, and then again 4
>>months ago or so.
>>
>> I looked at a couple of promising websites that had a lot of things
>>listed, only to find when I did a search for some popular items that had
>>actually sold over the past year, only 3 or 4 came up. (I would have
>>expected at least dozens) So while many things are listed, few are selling.
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a place that folks are actually checking out?
>>
>>
>
>http://www.craigslist.com
>
>

If there is an ample market within a relatively short distance,
Craigslist makes much sense. However, eBay can provide potential
buyers from all over the US or even the world, if you so choose,
provided the items are mailable with a minimum of work to package /
shipping cost.

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 1:31 pm
From: Derald

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:

>If I can't do the entire transaction from my keyboard I don't want any part
>of it. I think most buyers are like that, at least most of mine.
Fuggetit. These whiners don't have a clue. DW&I've bought and sold
on eBay since the late '90's. I wouldn't take a check or money order
from anybody but Jesus and would have to have some reliable way of
confirming his identity. I'm more and more inclined toward Paypal only.
Craig's list is fine for those looking for an electronic "yard sale" and
who're willing to put up with the hassles of local pickup.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 3:34 pm
From: BigDog1

On Jan 22, 11:08 am, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "JR Weiss" <jrwe...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:glaa2u$bn0$1@news.motzarella.org...> "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote...
>
> >>> Well yet one more reason to avoid ebay. I haven't sold anything on ebay
> >>> in quite a while. My feedback is just shy of 100, and I'd NEVER accept
> >>> paypal as a payment method. I'd never accept credit cards,
> >>> ither. -Dave
>
> >> So how on earth would you get paid?
>
> > Cash; Postal Money Order...
>
> Umm, ok. You can't mail cash and you really think buyers would be willing to
> go to the post office, buy a money order, mail it, and then have to wait for
> it to arrive and be cashed before the item can ship? You're kidding, right?
> And a personal check would take even longer, since it can take 10 business
> days to clear. And how do you handle foreign transactions and currency
> exchange?
>
> If I can't do the entire transaction from my keyboard I don't want any part
> of it. I think most buyers are like that, at least most of mine.

I think you're right. When I'm shopping on eBay I won't even look at
listings if the seller won't take PayPal. And when I'm selling, you
can't bid without a PayPal account.

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 4:49 pm
From: Dave Garland

h wrote:

> You can't mail cash

Sure you can, though that doesn't necessarily make it a good idea.

> and you really think buyers would be willing to
> go to the post office, buy a money order, mail it, and then have to wait for
> it to arrive and be cashed before the item can ship?

Some will.

> And a personal check would take even longer, since it can take 10 business
> days to clear.

It can. But if the items aren't big ticket items, I'd go ahead and
ship them when I received payment. I never had a payment bounce.

> And how do you handle foreign transactions and currency exchange?

Just a guess, but with an International Postal Money Order? You can
cash it at the post office, when you go to ship the package.

> If I can't do the entire transaction from my keyboard I don't want any part
> of it. I think most buyers are like that, at least most of mine.

Instant is always good for sales. But not everybody has a PayPal
account and/or a credit card, either.

Dave

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TOPIC: Two WSJ articles related to bailouts, bank nationalization... (fwd)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d404f0972a95cc8f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 1:20 pm
From: Stray Dog

Reposted in the public interest to m.c.f-l

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:18:05 +0000
From: Stray Dog <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, alt.politics.economics, sci.econ,
misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Two WSJ articles related to bailouts, bank nationalization...

See at end.....

On Thu, 22 Jan 2009, Stray Dog wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:59:59 +0000
> From: Stray Dog <sdog2008@sdf.lonestar.org>
> Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants, alt.politics.economics, sci.econ,
> misc.invest.stocks
> Subject: Two WSJ articles related to bailouts, bank nationalization...
>
>
>
> Today's WSJ, Jan 22.
>
> Front page: "Political Interference Seen in Bank Bailout Decisions"
>
> Much greater nitty-gritty detail than I've seen in all the other articles,
> and lots of complaints about transparency, Treasury (under Paulson) not
> answering questions, no justifications given for certain decisions, and one
> funny example where one bank used their bailout money in part to buy a Porshe
> for use by its executives and the word got out and the feds told the bank to
> get rid of it and when the WSJ called about that, the guy they talked to said
> "we're complying with the order."
>
> Kinda seemed to me like maybe half (order of magnitude) of the bank bailout
> money, at a minimum, isn't going to be effective.
>
>
> Second article: Page D1:
>
> "What if Uncle Sam Takes Over Your bank"
>
> Lots of useful questions and answers, brief history of prior nationalizations
> (eg. Sweden, France, and in the USA when the S&L crisis came and went, and
> generally considered a good result). Article says you shouldn't be too
> worried unless you might be looking for more complicated services.
>
> Article says about 8,000 banks, but that 314 institutions re-described
> themselves as banks for the purpose of becoming eligible for bailout money
> (sure seems to me more like getting their snouts in the trough).
>
>
> Another article (can't remember where I saw it), on this bank stuff said that
> banks have the option of withdrawing from the Fed system and going
> under state supervision by changing their charter. And, that quite a few have
> done this recently and some of you might want to think about whether your
> bank might have done it and whether that is in your best interests.
>
> I'll try to find out where I saw that.
>

Washington Post (jan 22, 2009, today), front page

title: "Regulatory System Allows Banks to Avoid Enforcement"
subtitle: "Firms can switch from U.S. to State Oversight"

First paragraph:

"At least 30 banks since 2000 have escaped federal regulatory action by walking
away from their federal regulators and moving under state supervision, taking
advantage of a long standing system that allows banks to choose between federal
and state oversight, according to a Washington Post review".

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TOPIC: Can you believe this guy
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1976704e8ee40e35?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 3:02 pm
From: "animal0921@googlemail.com"

I received an email the other day from a friend......

Is this guy for real? He claims to make $2,000,000 a year.

www.makealivingonlinetoday.com

Has anyone tried this before? Let me know.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 4:11 pm
From: im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net

On Jan 22, 6:02 pm, "animal0...@googlemail.com"
<animal0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I received an email the other day from a friend......
>
> Is this guy for real? He claims to make $2,000,000 a year.
>
> www.makealivingonlinetoday.com
>
> Has anyone tried this before? Let me know.

The guy is for real. The story is not. For a fee you can learn where
to buy stuff on the Internet. He's no genius. He is you.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 5:17 pm
From: Goomba

im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net wrote:
> On Jan 22, 6:02 pm, "animal0...@googlemail.com"
> <animal0...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I received an email the other day from a friend......
>>
>> Is this guy for real? He claims to make $2,000,000 a year.
>>
>> www.spamalivingonlinetoday.com
>>
>> Has anyone tried this before? Let me know.
>
> The guy is for real. The story is not. For a fee you can learn where
> to buy stuff on the Internet. He's no genius. He is you.

And you just propagated his spam yet again by not clipping out his link
or altering it before when you responded. Don't reward his spam.

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TOPIC: Bay Scallops - $2.99 for 12 ounces at Kroger through Saturday night
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b0bf5d195af9b87c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 7:03 pm
From: OhioGuy

I love scallops, but I'm usually put off by their price - $8.99 a pound
or more. Through Saturday night, Kroger stores have "Bay Scallops"
(farmed, not from the sea) for only $2.99 per 12 ounce package. This
equals just $3.99 per pound.

I was able to pick up 8 packages, though I did leave 5 out for other
people. For supper today, I made a garlic butter pasta with scallops.

Since my Dad loves these things, I also went up to the service desk and
got a rain check for 40 more packages of them at the $2.99 price. Store
manager says he will put in a special order for them, and call me when
they come in. I'll keep them in the deep freeze until my Dad's birthday.

So if your local store is out, try getting a rain check at the service
desk, as long as you've got the freezer space.

Scallop information:
http://www7.taosnet.com/platinum/data/species/scallopbay.html

Some scallop recipes:
http://www.fishex.com/recipes/scallops/scallop-recipes.html

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TOPIC: DeDollar.com - Delaware's Price Guide
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ab466bb7b982eb43?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:04 pm
From: "editor"

http://www.DeDollar.com

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:07 pm
From: "editor"

http://www.DeDollar.com

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:09 pm
From: "editor"

http://www.DeDollar.com

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jan 22 2009 8:12 pm
From: "editor"

http://www.DeDollar.com

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TOPIC: Starting a internet business doesn't have to cost thousands of dollars
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6e20e31816577eee?hl=en
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