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misc.consumers.frugal-living - 13 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Boost Mobile: May have to try it
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 3:22 pm
From: George

SMS wrote:
> me@privacy.net wrote:
>> Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That's why I was
>>> disapointed to hear that Boost uses the iDen network.
>>
>> How come?
>>
>> Its not a good network?
>
> Look at the January Consumer Reports for the results for Nextel in each
> market. That's the coverage you'll get. But it's misleading, because
> coverage in urban areas is _all_ you'll get. No roaming in rural areas
> (nothing to roam onto).
>
> A publication in my area (SF Bay area) did their own survey of coverage
> and quality. Nextel wa always second to last, just ahead of MetroPCS,
> except they beat two other carriers in sound quality.
>
> The unlimited data is what's attractive about that offer. $50 would buy
> you 934 voice minutes a month on PagePlus.

But isn't iDEN data something like a screaming fast 9kb if all of the
planets are properly aligned?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 4:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>> I use the builtin voip on a Nokia N95 8GB.

> Wow the N95!

Thats what almost everyone says, specially kids |-)

> That's quite a phone.

It is indeed.

> Did you buy it unlocked?

Yep.

> How you like it?

Love it. Its got a couple of downsides that I would prefer were done differently.

No touch screen is the main one.

No card slot. Superficially you dont need one since its the 8GB, but a card
is a very quick way of moving very big stuff like a long video recording etc.

Leaves the iphone for dead in a number of areas.

Main irritation is that the damned thing costs as much as a laptop.

Not very surprising given that its as capable as a laptop, just with a much smaller screen.

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TOPIC: Bailed-out banks sought to hire 21,800 foreign workers in past 6 years.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/758819ccc404b655?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 3:50 pm
From: hpope@lycos.com

On Feb 1, 9:35 am, AndyS <andysha...@juno.com> wrote:
> wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:53:17 -0500, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >During the last three months of 2008, the largest banks that received
> > >taxpayer loans announced more than 100,000 layoffs.
>
> > >.......................................................................................................................
>
> > >Foreigners are attractive hires because companies have found ways to
> > >pay them less than American workers.
>
> > Business scumbags care not for Americas future, only quick profits
> > count. Vote-grubbing political hacks only seek reelection. America
> > needs a total strip-down and rebuild.
>
> > ted
>
> >http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News
>
> >http://www.vdare.com/ V-Dare
>
> Andy writes;
>
> I agree with everything you said...
>
> However, you should be aware that the purpose of starting and running
> a business in America is to make profit for the owners of the
> business,
> and not to be some charity whose purpose is to provide jobs for people
> at higher salaries than the competition....
>
> One possibility is for the IRS NOT to allow salaries paid to non-
> citizens
> to be deducted as a business expense.... That would be reasonable,
> and would just about even up the cost of domestic vs foreign labor....
>
> So, rather than just bitch and moan about "the man" , why not suggest
> solutions about how people who start and run business can make a
> profit by using American workers, without driving the business into
> the
> ground, as the Big Three auto companies seem to have done...????
>
> Andy in Eureka, Texas- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, how can we get the right workers for modern industry. Personally,
I've
always been an advocate for special funds to support the "best and the
brightest"
if any help is needed. (that would include reasonable expense funds)
Let us pour
the funds into the very highest levels of technology plus economics.
Money, is
what "it's" all about.

mitch

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TOPIC: glennsacks.com: "In the UK You Can't Sue For Paternity Fraud" (plus
some GOOD news)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 4:39 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:

> http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3246&cp=all#comments

> You may have to scroll upwards to read Robert Franklin's article,
> which includes a link to the case in point. Check Celia's comment at
> #19 - I think she's a lawyer.

> Excerpts from Franklin's article:

> The judge, sitting with Lord Justice Aikens and Mr. Justice Bennett, said:
> 'This whole case can be categorised as a misfortune to all those engaged
> in it. I would not wish to be the one to extend their misfortunes further.'

Wota terminal fuckwit.

> With those words a British judge declined to allow a man who
> had been the victim of carefully calculated paternity fraud for
> 18 years, to recover damages for that fraud from his ex-wife.

That does not however mean that no one will be able to
do that in future with more flagrant examples of fraud.

> Cuckoldry is now officially enshrined in British law.

Like hell it is.

> It appears to be the policy of the British state

A particular judge is not the british state.

> to, if not outright promote it, not discourage it either.

Utterly mangled all over again.

> (snip)

> But all is not lost elsewhere. In Georgia, U.S.A.:

> http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=3254#comments

> (also by Robert Franklin)

> First paragraphs:

> Hard as it may be to believe, a Georgia man is actually going to get
> back the money he paid in child support for a child who wasn't his.
> Read about it here (The Augusta Chronicle, 3/2/08). The judge in the
> case, David Roper, ruled that the mother and the biological father
> would have to pay Kenneth Samuels, the duped dad, over $14,000 in
> child support he paid over several years.

> And apparently this order is not unique; there've been others like it,

Yep, right thruout the world which has law derived from the english system.

> albeit rarely.

Not that rarely now that DNA allows incontrovertible proof of paternity.

> So why in this case? What distinguishes it from other cases of paternity fraud?

The circumstances, just like with every legal ruling.

> Apparently the mother, Jamie Hope and the biological father Oba
> Wallace, knew or strongly suspected the child was Wallace's from the
> time it was two years old. Nevertheless, when Hope filed an action to
> collect child support from Samuels, she unequivocally named him as the
> father. That's what Judge Roper didn't like; he said it constituted fraud
> and obligated her to repay Samuels. (Of course Wallace never made any
> such claim in court, so why he should have to pay Samuels isn't clear.)

It aint just about claims.

> This directly contradicts the laws of at least some other states, like those of Texas, where I live.....

Yep, some states have chosen to have black letter law on the subject.

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TOPIC: the great coffee wars
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/81d399d7a689e8a0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:20 pm
From: "Woody"

Let's say you absolutely have to have a mocha or latte. I know, that kind of
thing is never a must, but let's say for argument's sake that it is. The
default place to get one is Starbucks, but now McD's and Dunkin' Donuts are
offering them, too. Are their cheaper versions worth the likely decline in
quality?

Woody

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:57 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <WDthl.165907$se4.141036@en-nntp-03.dc1.easynews.com>,
Woody <email@munged.com> wrote:
>Let's say you absolutely have to have a mocha or latte. I know, that kind of
>thing is never a must, but let's say for argument's sake that it is. The
>default place to get one is Starbucks, but now McD's and Dunkin' Donuts are
>offering them, too. Are their cheaper versions worth the likely decline in
>quality?

Since all variations of coffee and such are a matter of individual taste,
your fastest way to resolve your question is to buy one of each and see
how it tastes to you. Personally, I can't tell the difference between the
coffee at McDonalds or the (free) coffee at work.

Gary

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Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man"
General of the Army (four stars) Ann Dunwoody

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 9:16 pm
From: The Real Bev

Gary Heston wrote:

> Woody <email@munged.com> wrote:
>>Let's say you absolutely have to have a mocha or latte. I know, that kind of
>>thing is never a must, but let's say for argument's sake that it is. The
>>default place to get one is Starbucks, but now McD's and Dunkin' Donuts are
>>offering them, too. Are their cheaper versions worth the likely decline in
>>quality?

I used to like McD's ordinary coffee, but I haven't had any for decades. I'd
rather spend the calories on donuts than fancy coffee, even ignoring the price.

> Since all variations of coffee and such are a matter of individual taste,
> your fastest way to resolve your question is to buy one of each and see
> how it tastes to you. Personally, I can't tell the difference between the
> coffee at McDonalds or the (free) coffee at work.

A friend felt he had to buy some coffee at the Panera place whose wifi we were
using. The coffee tasted just like mine, which is nothing special. Nice place
to hang out, though, and the goodies looked very good and not outrageously
expensive. I still haven't bought anything at a Starbuck's.

I finally found a 1-cup Bialetti espresso maker at a yard sale. It was nothing
special either, and took just as much time to make as the 8-cup Mr. Coffee.

There are no miracles.

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Cheers, Bev
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earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by
mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice."
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TOPIC: Google email
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 7:32 pm
From: The Real Bev

draft200902@gmail.com wrote:

> Does it have a short URL address?

Shorter than gmail.com?

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Cheers, Bev
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"It's too bad stupidity isn't painful." - A. S. LaVey

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 8:31 pm
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TOPIC: CIGARETTES, SAVE MONEY AND SAVE YOURSELF
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 10:48 pm
From: "electroniccigs@gmail.com"

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other
natural sources other than tobacco

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 11:02 pm
From: "Woody"

<electroniccigs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ed5b4b9d-dbea-4c92-b4e3-f9f3840a2b29@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> HTTP://ITSSMOKING.COM
>
>
>
> http://itsSmoking.com
>
>
>
>
> Please take a moment to explore this site. You will find that
> http://itsSmoking.com
> offers an exciting business opportunity driven by an amazing,
> innovative product, offering tremendous earning potential electronic,
> nicotine delivery device that simulates the sensation of smoking
> without the worry of taking in cancer causing agents and other
> harmful
> chemicals that are normally associated with traditional tobacco
> products. It produces simulated smoke that is actually a vapor mist
> that looks, tastes, feels and reacts very similar to actual tobacco
> smoke. When exhaled, the vapor harmlessly evaporates in the
> surrounding air within a few seconds. It does not use tobacco at all.
> In fact, the nicotine that is used is synthetic and derived from
> other
> natural sources other than tobacco

This is the so-called "electronic cigarette," and it has existed for quite
some time. There are several brands available on the net. What makes yours
better than the next guy's?

Woody

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 11:13 pm
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TOPIC: Hawaii prices
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 1 2009 11:26 pm
From: Dan Birchall

I would expect prices at chain restaurants to be a bit higher than on
the mainland, due to transportation costs. Certain supermarket items
(milk and cereal for two) tend to be significantly more expensive.

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