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TOPIC: Just heard of a free phone service...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1306f55d0bdb5a42?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 10:31 pm
From: Kompu Kid

On Feb 4, 8:37 pm, Fring <frugal.livi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:18 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello All:
>
> > I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley (http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
> > ), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
> > guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
> > first.
>
> > Here is what the guy gave as the URL.
>
> >http://www.tuitalk.com
>
> > Deguza
>
> Thanks for sharing. This might be a good back up for my Onesuite voip
> account. 10 mins a day is still 10 mins a day...might be not much but
> its still fere :)

Hopefully it covers the part of the world you want to call. Let us
know what you think of it.

Regards,

Deguza

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:27 am
From: Fring

On Feb 5, 2:31 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:37 pm, Fring <frugal.livi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 11:18 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello All:
>
> > > I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley (http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
> > > ), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
> > > guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
> > > first.
>
> > > Here is what the guy gave as the URL.
>
> > >http://www.tuitalk.com
>
> > > Deguza
>
> > Thanks for sharing. This might be a good back up for my Onesuite voip
> > account. 10 mins a day is still 10 mins a day...might be not much but
> > its still fere :)
>
> Hopefully it covers the part of the world you want to call. Let us
> know what you think of it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deguza- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I already registered and downloaded the program but haven't tried
making any calls yet. Maybe tomorrow.

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TOPIC: Onesuite Question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/136859395009c10f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:43 am
From: Fring

On Jan 24, 11:41 pm, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
wrote:
> On Jan 8, 11:31 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >www.Queensbridge.uswrote:
> > > Recently I noticed that they are passing my caller ID [or ANI] to the
> > > call recipient.
>
> > I thought that ANI was only available on incoming toll-free numbers. I
> > guess there's an exception for some customers.
>
> I think that telephone companies can get ANI from origin,
> and that OS qualifies as a telco

I think the reason why your caller id won't show up when using a phone
card like Onesuite is because most people wants anonymity with the
exception of some. Maybe Onesuite received lots of complaints (because
some people won't accept calls if they don't recognize the caller) and
gave in to people's request.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:51 am
From: SMS

Fring wrote:
> On Jan 24, 11:41 pm, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 11:31 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> www.Queensbridge.uswrote:
>>>> Recently I noticed that they are passing my caller ID [or ANI] to the
>>>> call recipient.
>>> I thought that ANI was only available on incoming toll-free numbers. I
>>> guess there's an exception for some customers.
>> I think that telephone companies can get ANI from origin,
>> and that OS qualifies as a telco
>
> I think the reason why your caller id won't show up when using a phone
> card like Onesuite is because most people wants anonymity with the
> exception of some. Maybe Onesuite received lots of complaints (because
> some people won't accept calls if they don't recognize the caller) and
> gave in to people's request.

But it does show up, so what are you talking about?

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TOPIC: 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million foreigners
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/62b42e3e14d96437?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:15 am
From: "Kerry"

just a test.

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e88b9095-df8a-4ab2-be81-3d8c6c1278cf@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 2, 8:07 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 5:35 pm, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million foreigners
>
> >http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevato...
>
> Ain't it wonderful?
>
> mitch

Yup! If Bush was in office he would have filled those jobs with red
blooded Americans who are only qualified to clean toilets. So, which
is better?

Bush's idea of full employment is give them jobs as military dead
bodys in foreign lands.

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TOPIC: Stimulus could give jobs to 300,000 illegal immigrants
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ded01919eafbaa63?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:18 am
From: wismel@yahoo.com

http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022009-1.html

Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
Washington, DC?

ted

http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:25 am
From: GLOBALIST

On Feb 5, 5:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?
>
> ted
>
> http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA

Well if the lazy ass white foks don't want to do physical work,
they'll have to hire somebody to do the work. You go Mexico.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:33 am
From: freeisbest

On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?

There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
gone, teddy.

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:03 am
From: "M'Balz Es-Hari"

"freeisbest" <demeter547opine@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:568e5eed-7578-462c-b51c-a75be15ba802@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?

There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
gone, teddy.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:14 am
From: "rick++"

You probably havent work in years. Why complain?

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:29 am
From: "Petri Dish"

"M'Balz Es-Hari" <texan767@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gmev45$2us$1@news.motzarella.org...
> "freeisbest" <demeter547opine@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:568e5eed-7578-462c-b51c-a75be15ba802@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>>
>> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
>> Washington, DC?
>
> There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
> it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
> gone, teddy.
>
> Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

New boss busy fighting with the children of the corn.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:32 am
From: LiberalPatriot@xemaps.com

The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
don't have money!

The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
credibility.

So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:42 am
From: Stan de SD

On Feb 5, 7:32 am, LiberalPatr...@xemaps.com wrote:
> The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
> don't have money!
>
> The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
> credibility.
>
> So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

How is "magic negro" a racial slur, given the fact it was coined by a
liberal op-ed columnist for the LA Times? Or are you so motivated by
knee-jerk hysteria that facts are of secondary importance to you?

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:01 am
From: "Petri Dish"

"Stain de SD" <StanDeSD@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:71ca6f25-fdf1-4dda-b990-2e3a4f42069d@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 7:32 am, LiberalPatr...@xemaps.com wrote:
> The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
> don't have money!
>
> The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
> credibility.
>
> So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

Your the resident fringe lunatic, you answer why you are a racist terrorist.

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TOPIC: Wireless Service Plans for Laptops
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/65cc345cf6414091?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 5:25 am
From: "Michael White"

I'd like to use my laptop for web browsing in the mall and in my office in
the Dallas (TX) area. Who provides the best quality (speed) service plan?
Who provides the best value plan?

Does a smartphone do better than a laptop for this purpose?

Thanks.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 5:40 am
From: "Woody"

"Michael White" <xxx@yyy.com> wrote in message
news:dNBil.1430$eK2.650@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
> I'd like to use my laptop for web browsing in the mall and in my office in
> the Dallas (TX) area. Who provides the best quality (speed) service plan?
> Who provides the best value plan?
>
> Does a smartphone do better than a laptop for this purpose?
>
> Thanks.

Just don't believe Verizon's claim that they charge you 0.002 cents a
minute, or the cents will turn into dollars on your first bill, and you
won't be able to explain to the idiots at Verizon where they made their
mistake.

Woody

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:39 am
From: Dave Garland

Woody wrote:
> Just don't believe Verizon's claim that they charge you 0.002 cents a
> minute, or the cents will turn into dollars on your first bill, and you
> won't be able to explain to the idiots at Verizon where they made their
> mistake.

You got that right. Although that recording of Verizon idiots was
made in 2005, so they may have figured out by now that cents are not
the same as dollars.

Dave

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TOPIC: Recommended non-slip shoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/528f10a7cc9551e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:44 am
From: noel888

This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
please?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:40 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

noel888 wrote:
> This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
> have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
> chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
> here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
> was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
> line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
> available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
> types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
> Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
> please?

I run one to two hours per day 350 days a year or more. All winter
long we contend with snow and black ice. What I do on black ice days
is use shoes that I have screwed 1/4" hex screws in from the bottom. I
use 3-4 around the heel and up to five in the forefoot in sort of a
penta-star formation. The heel can take screws of 3/4" length with no
problem while the forefoot screws need to be 1/2" or shorter to
prevent feeling them inside. I use the blunt ended screws rather than
pointed. Sometimes a predrilled hole is needed to start the screw.
This really works and the screws would last most of the season when
used for walking short distances. My brother is partly disabled and
this is a must for him.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:47 am
From: "rtandems@yahoo.com"

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091

Others like this are available.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:38 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 5, 10:47 am, "rtand...@yahoo.com" <rtand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
> Others like this are available.

That looks good, and pretty cheap too. I'd try a pair if I can see
them in the store first. I believe they would be suitable for walking
as the OP intended. I'd rip them off very quickly trying to run on
them because I have to switch back and forth from dry to ice so often.
I'll be checking the store.

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TOPIC: Bathtub question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a4bc99a41d21a966?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:50 am
From: noel888

On Feb 5, 1:29 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

If your referring to the sink pop up in bathroom, go below the sink
and where the rod is connected to the sink..there is a clip that holds
them together...slide that clip outward and that should free the
connection and you should be able to remove it. BTW, maybe this is
intentional, but your link goes straight to Windows live.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:08 am
From: noel888

Sorry, i read your post again...you did say 'bathtub'...I got confused
with the pop-up of the sink in bathrooms. Why ask in this frugal
forum..you would be better off in so many of those "How do I..."
forums which can be found by googling it? I still say that link of
yours takes me directly to windows live...go figure.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:32 am
From: "RonABC"

Most likely, you have to take off the part that is attached to the vertical
surface of the tub first. After you take that off, the knob you are
referring to will probably have a cotter pin or similar connection in the
back. The knob is connected to a metal wire/rod that drops down behind the
tub and that is connected to a brass plunger/stopper at the end. The
plunger/stopper is what stops the water from draining out when it is in the
right position. The whole setup comes up and out of the tub through the
hole that is in the vertical wall of the tub behind the piece that covers
the whole.

Usually, there are two screws in the piece that attaches to the vertical
wall of the tub. Yours looks different, so there may be a little cap/cover
over where the connecting screws are, or maybe there is some other way that
the piece is connected.

If you can see a brand name printed on that fixture, maybe you can go to
their website or do an Internet search to see how it disconnects.

Kompu Kid wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?authkey=Y9O!9fLQTTI%24
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

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TOPIC: Verizon can't tell the difference between dollars and cents
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/61815a7b69a94258?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:22 am
From: SMS

Woody wrote:
> Here's an audio recording of a customer call with Verizon. The customer had
> been quoted a rate of 0.002 cents per kilobyte but was actually charged
> $0.002. Not only the customer service rep but the supervisor claims not to
> see a difference between those two concepts.
>
> http://www.reddit.com/goto?id=7uw1f
>
> So who on here was touting Verizon as a good service provider again? Whoever
> it was just got an education.

So two idiots at Verizon that don't understand the difference between
$0.002 and 0.002¢ and that translates to Verizon not having good coverage.

The key question in that admittedly hilarious recording is does the
caller have proof that he was ever quoted 0.002¢ per KB?

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