Tuesday, February 3, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Is this guy for real? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8a6553c200de5be6?hl=en
* free breakfast at Denny's - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5d558b88e7e81392?hl=en
* find find find - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/89a08f72cf233d56?hl=en
* Good place to buy wool diaper covers? - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/212b318d6a5da024?hl=en
* Bank Bailout Was a Complete Fraud - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8f3fbc33eb6b035f?hl=en
* what if you find contaminant on store bought kids fruit snacks? - 4 messages,
4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1b369dfc229b9353?hl=en
* Is AARP dental insurance any good? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3f9f7fb82cfbbd0e?hl=en
* High-Fructose Corn Syrup High in Mercury - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/222ab29674477495?hl=en
* Semi-OT: Michael Phelps: "I take it back. I don't apologize." - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8418534d9d612f4a?hl=en
* the electronic cigarette: a good buy? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/424be27492308245?hl=en
* CIGARETTES, SAVE MONEY AND SAVE YOURSELF - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bc3a04fb3f70d426?hl=en
* ++ Hilary Clinton Sex Scandal - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2f5cf388636837f?hl=en
* Just heard of a free phone service... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1306f55d0bdb5a42?hl=en
* McDonald's Angus third pounder burger - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ac70700edf556a52?hl=en
* Wall St. Journal: On saving on phone service and cable - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/159cdc61827d4f54?hl=en

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TOPIC: Is this guy for real?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8a6553c200de5be6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


On Feb 3, 12:51 pm, Bowie007 <martin_shag_loa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
> it.
>
>
> Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
> could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
> because if it is for real I want some of it?
>
> Please let me know!

You are posting to the wrong group, son. See, everybody here already
is rich. We got in early when the first genius posted about the $6
investment scheme. A few folks thought it was a scam, but when they
saw pictures of the rest of us on our yachts like Tom Vu, they quickly
fell into line and started disrupting every newsgroup they could with
the investment opportunity. Our problems now involve finding tax
shelters and worthy 501c3's to donate to.
Sorry you missed the boat.

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TOPIC: free breakfast at Denny's
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5d558b88e7e81392?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:46 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> > Woody wrote:
> > >Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
> > >and 2:00 p.m.
>
> > >Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
> > >two.
>
> > Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> > First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> > Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> & coffee for 29 cents.

When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it. We
could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 2:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


albundy2@mailinator.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Woody wrote:
>>>> Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between
>>>> 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
>>
>>>> Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99
>>>> cents for two.
>>
>>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>>
>>> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>>
>>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>>
>> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
>> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>>
>> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
>> & coffee for 29 cents.

> When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
> bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
> could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.

One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.

> We could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:43 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> albun...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Woody wrote:
> >>>> Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between
> >>>> 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
>
> >>>> Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99
> >>>> cents for two.
>
> >>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> >>> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> >>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> >> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> >> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> >> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> >> & coffee for 29 cents.
> > When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
> > bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
> > could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.
>
> One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.
>
> > We could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.

My father was an electrical engineer with a chemistry background. He
used to make nitroglycerin and explode it as a kid. I learned some
safety measures, but still was lucky to survive to adulthood in one
piece.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 10:03 pm
From: The Real Bev


James wrote:

> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> Woody wrote:
>> >Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
>> >and 2:00 p.m.
>>
>> >Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
>> >two.
>>
>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>>
>> First requirement is to have something eatable.

Tons of salt and cholesterol, what's not to love? It's really hard to ruin
breakfast. I heard about this and then forgot about it until just now. It was
on my way, too...

>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> & coffee for 29 cents.

When I was in college Bob's had hash browns, one egg and toast for 35 cents.
Coffee was extra.

--
Cheers, Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 10:05 pm
From: The Real Bev


Rod Speed wrote:

> albundy2@mailinator.com wrote:
>>
>> When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
>> bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
>> could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.

We used to buy chemistry sets at yard sales. My baby son liked to make gunpowder...

> One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.

My HS chem lab partner liked to mix random things together. Fortunately all he
created was bad-smelling smoke.

--
Cheers, Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

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TOPIC: find find find
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/89a08f72cf233d56?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:50 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


shin.ramyo...@gmail.com wrote:
> HI ALL,
>
> NOW YOU CAN FIND LOVE AND ROMANCE FOR LATIONS WORLDWIDE ....
>
> ITS JOIN FREE. CLICK HERE
>
If you play your cards right, you can be hooking up with the county
sheriff at the local motel in no time.

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TOPIC: Good place to buy wool diaper covers?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/212b318d6a5da024?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:56 pm
From: Mary Sunshine


My grandma used to knit woollen soakers. They were a very WW II thing.
All 5 of us had soakers pulled on over our cloth diapers. They are
dead easy to knit.

I used plastic pants pulled on over diaper-service cloth diapers.

I hear that there is now a diaper-free movement (no pun intended.) How
green can you get, eh?


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:35 pm
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com)

xxxxo
-------------------------------------
OhioGuy wrote:


> My wife told me to bid on Ebay for wool diaper covers for our baby
> that will be arriving in about a month.

> I checked on Ebay, and only seem to find them sold as singles, and
> they seem to be running $15 or more.

> Can anyone suggest a place where you can buy several, and they are
> not treated as "specialty items" - with the associated high
> price?

> I thought we would be able to find them in a multi pack for about $8

> or $9 each, but so far I haven't found any luck.

Perhaps you should think twice about buying wool anything for a baby- with
baby's skin so "new" and sensitive, wool could be irritating if not cause
a down-right allergy.

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:15 pm
From: Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH to reply


Mary Sunshine wrote:
> My grandma used to knit woollen soakers. They were a very WW II thing.
> All 5 of us had soakers pulled on over our cloth diapers. They are
> dead easy to knit.

There are still patterns out there for them, too.

I just double-diapered my children (making a half-twist to go between
the legs to reduce horizontal bulk) who had extra-sensitive skin and I
didn't need soakers, but I bought top-quality cloth diapers.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:48 pm
From: The Real Bev


clams_casino wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> OhioGuy wrote:
>>
>>> My wife told me to bid on Ebay for wool diaper covers for our baby
>>> that will be arriving in about a month.
>>>
>>> I checked on Ebay, and only seem to find them sold as singles, and
>>> they seem to be running $15 or more.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a place where you can buy several, and they are
>>> not treated as "specialty items" - with the associated high price?
>>>
>>> I thought we would be able to find them in a multi pack for about
>>> $8 or $9 each, but so far I haven't found any luck.
>>
>> Just for curious, why do you want such things? I would have killed
>> for today's disposable diapers 40 years ago!
>
> Hope they are better than they were 30 years ago. Cloth was so much
> easier / faster to change & didn't fail nearly as often.
>
> We'd use them when away from home, but most always used cloth at home.

No pins. They can weigh POUNDS by the time you need to change them. No diaper
rash. I guess they could be improved if somebody figured out how to make them
absorb babyshit, leaving a clean bottom, but that's probably too much to ask.

--
Cheers,
Bev
*******************************************
"I've learned that you can keep puking long
after you think you're finished." -- SL

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TOPIC: Bank Bailout Was a Complete Fraud
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8f3fbc33eb6b035f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 2:29 pm
From: Ron Peterson


On Feb 3, 5:18 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:

> A Congress is working to give the banks more money. Why not let a
> couple of the big ones, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc. simply die a
> peaceful and natural death?

Is WFC close to bankruptcy? They seem to still be earning money.

--
Ron


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TOPIC: what if you find contaminant on store bought kids fruit snacks?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1b369dfc229b9353?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 4:32 pm
From: OhioGuy


My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
something really awful and gritty on them.

Take a look, here:

http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg

The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.

This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.

I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
has run into this.

On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
that would be the end of it.

Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
eventually I hung up.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:23 pm
From: "Woody"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:gmanp5$1pb5$1@news.ett.com.ua...
> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box was
> still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my kids
> over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today and
> started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was something
> really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
> http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and breaks
> up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it. However, it does
> not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was stuck all over every
> single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened. Clearly,
> it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would think to
> look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who has
> run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it is
> dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want the
> expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to Kroger,
> they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and that
> would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like this
> before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the telephone
> number on the package, but just got put on hold, and eventually I hung up.

I would dig up the contact information for the local branch of the food
inspection agency. You could be saving lives.

I'd also take yourself, and your kids, to the doctor to see what it is you
guys have ingested. Have a sample of the stuff on hand for your doctor to
have tested, and another sample for the food inspection folks.

Woody


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


OhioGuy wrote:
> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
> was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
> kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
> and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
> something really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
> http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
> breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
> However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
> stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
> Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
> think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
> has run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
> is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
> the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
> Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
> that would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
> this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
> telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
> eventually I hung up.

I would not panic over it myself. It looks like some burned
crystallized product fell into the mix on the production line. It
would make me mad that they did not respond to your call, but I would
not spend any time or money trying to eek some booty from the company.
That just drives the cost up for everybody.

Also, you may wish to learn how to compress photos. Just because your
camera takes 1.2MB pictures does not mean they will appear any clearer
than a 50kb photo properly saved. Consider using irfanview and or RIOT.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:49 pm
From: metspitzer


On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:32:49 -0500, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:

> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
>was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
>kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
>and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
>something really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
>http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
>breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
>However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
>stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
>Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
>think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
>has run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
>is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
>the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
>Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
>that would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
>this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
>telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
>eventually I hung up.

Do you have more unopened packs? Hang on to them. Contaminated food
should be dealt with harshly. I would think the company would want to
find out what it was.

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TOPIC: Is AARP dental insurance any good?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3f9f7fb82cfbbd0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 4:55 pm
From: Kompu Kid


Two friends of mine, a couple in their 70's, don't have any dental
insurance any more.

I found out that Delta Dental offers plans through AARP?

Any experience with their plans?

Thanks!

Deguza

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TOPIC: High-Fructose Corn Syrup High in Mercury
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/222ab29674477495?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:53 pm
From: tpgarner@gmail.com


On Jan 29, 12:42 pm, Dave Garland <dave.garl...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
> tmcl...@searchmachine.com wrote:
> > Carbonated beverages are another thing (even sugar-free) human beings
> > don't need.
>
> Ah, but beer is naturally carbonated. Real beer, anyhow. And in the
> old days, was often safer to drink than the water.
>
> Dave

And not to be Debbie Downer, but I just read that many commercial
beers contain HFCS (Miller is one, Budweiser claims it's not)

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TOPIC: Semi-OT: Michael Phelps: "I take it back. I don't apologize."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8418534d9d612f4a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:57 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com

OK, so it's a joke.

But not really.

http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/01/a-letter-id-like-to-see-but-wont/

It's a fictional piece written by Radley Balko. It's very good.

However, one thing not quite mentioned (as Sam Harris did in his book,
"The End of Faith") is how horribly short we are on cash for the
prevention of nuclear terrorism and how this wouldn't be the case if
pot were legal.

Lenona.

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TOPIC: the electronic cigarette: a good buy?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/424be27492308245?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:18 pm
From: ecignews@gmail.com


Some bars have banned it because they look too much like real
cigarette. They worry in a crowded bar, someone will see it being
'vaped' and spark up a real one thinking that is allowed:
http://www.startribune.com/local/38755722.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Others have embraced them and use them as a way to attract back
smokers:
http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/hernebay/Bay-pub-landlord-sells-electronic-cigarettes/article-652872-detail/article.html

Some of the models don't emit any vapour if it's inhaled but to be
honest with any of them if you keep the vapour inhaled long enough,
there will be none on exhale so you can get away with it anywhere if
you're sneaky. Best advice is to ask when you want to use it where you
are not sure about it being permitted. Some of the kits come with
little cards you can hand out. The myth is that there is no smell, but
really there is a faint scent that people can pick up on - it's
stronger with different flavours and I've noticed that if I have my
heating turned on the car, the smell will be stronger.

The other myth is that it the vapour is 'only water vapour'. It's not
- What makes the vapour appear as smoke is propylene glycol - the same
chemical used to make fog in fog machines though the Chinese
manufacturers promise that they only use food grade PG which of course
is hard to verify.

Also the World Health Organisation recently replied to a member of an
e-cig forum that it would be advising member nations that electronic
cigarettes "not be exempted from clean air laws that restriction
restrict cigarette smoke exposure until adequate evidence is provided
to assure the regulatory authority that use of the product will not
expose people to toxic emissions.".

For more links: http://www.e-cignews.com


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TOPIC: CIGARETTES, SAVE MONEY AND SAVE YOURSELF
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:39 pm
From: ecignews@gmail.com


Suppliers are being advised not to make cessation claims unless you
have the clinical studies to back them up lest you ruin it for all
users. Keep e-cigs legal !


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TOPIC: ++ Hilary Clinton Sex Scandal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2f5cf388636837f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:45 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com


On Feb 3, 2:26 am, systemofadownsyndr...@gmail.com wrote:
> The video that rocked the
> oval oralfis , Hilary Clinton Sex tape naked with The hockey legend
> Wade Greatski..

Yea, must be the great Wade Greatski taking it to the hole once again.
He's trying to break Wilbur Chamberlain's record.
If it were real, I'd pay dearly not to see it.

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TOPIC: Just heard of a free phone service...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1306f55d0bdb5a42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:18 pm
From: Kompu Kid


Hello All:

I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley ( http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
first.

Here is what the guy gave as the URL.

http://www.tuitalk.com


Deguza

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TOPIC: McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:31 pm
From: "www.Queensbridge.us"


I have enjoyed
McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
in Manhattan and Brooklyn for $3.99

Yesterday I was in Astoria part of Queens, NYC and they were $4.59!!

Has McDonald's raised the prices of Angus burgers.

How much are they where you are?

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TOPIC: Wall St. Journal: On saving on phone service and cable
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/159cdc61827d4f54?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:36 pm
From: "www.Queensbridge.us"


On Feb 3, 11:46 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310097165622001.html
>
> > Granted, this article isn't exactly aimed at people who are truly
> > struggling, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
>
> > Lenona.
>
> Meanwhile the wireless carriers keep trying to stop people from pay as
> you go data. Verizon no longer offers it on new smart phones, though on
> one two year old model you can still pay by the MB.

Virgin offers it as an add-on, daily if you wish. And you can cell
phone service for a little as $5.00 a month. Go to www.virginmobileusa.com
Check out Virgin Mobile phones and plans. Buy one of their phones and
activate it. Enter Kickbacks Code number: yQqUHOsQ to get 60 minutes
of bonus airtime after you add money to your account
http://www.virginmobileusa.com


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