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* Zircon Earring-JE0301 Fashion Jewelry,Wholesale Zircon Earring - 2 messages,
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TOPIC: diy rack for oven problem
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ded71cb392c07611?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:09 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<hcudhj$60a$1@news.eternal-september.org
>,
"john royce" <bluestar@mail.invalid>
wrote:
> "sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:n593f51amvd0a9p2olmv3b9msub24nsej8@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:13:30 +0800, "Dave C." <noway@nohow.never>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Let's get this straight... you are trying to think of a creative way to
> >>save about .0000000000002 pennies worth of electricity? C'mon, be
> >>serious now... is this a troll? -Dave
> >
> > These nut cases appear every so often. To store all of those
> > casseroles, he needs a large freezer... when the freezer is empty,
> > he's wasting electricity. It's a cycle he hasn't give much thought
> > to. Being frugal doesn't mean being cheap, it just means don't waste.
> > However, he's taking the concept to the point of being a cheapskate.
> > I wonder if he reuses toilet paper?
>
> Some people are so *opinionated* dont you think? The original question was
> not 'just' about saving money, (which if you are not a merkin, might
> actually have consequences) sometimes its just more convenient to cook as
> much as a microwave will take; which often is not all that much anyway.
>
> Our cooking rarely if ever gets frozen, so why introduce to others such
> aspects as this that your over active mind uneccesarily produces? You
> readily call someone else a nutcase for asking a valid food related
> question, but empty vessals make the most noise, and you certainly qualify
> wouldn't you say? Its always a big problem in (therapy) groups that the
> shallow and opionated want to *hog* everything. when two or more empty
> vessals start talking to each other they succeed and then spoil the
> newsgroup for others. Why dont you look at yourself?
I'd suggest you ask your question in
rec.food.cooking
rec.food.equipment
or if it's that important, try to find a
bigger microwave/combo unit
or why aren't you just using a
regular/convection unit
(btw I actually don't have a full sized
one but use a counter-top
convection/toaster unit for lots of my
meals. I also have an advantium
microwave/convection oven but I don't
really like it and am hoping to switch
it out for a full sized convection oven)
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 12:47 pm
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com)
Piling one dish upon another is going to alter the way the mocrowave heats
both dishes! The waves are going through double densities. So whatever you
think you are saving, you are probably spending in needing to heat longer.
If you want to cover a dish withour the top "exploding" just don't civer
it tightly; leave a little open space for the steam to escape.
xxxxo
-------------------------------------
john royce wrote:
> When making casseroles in the microwave combination oven, I try to fill
> the
> oven right up; so as to be frugal with electricity.
> Although some casserole dishes come with lids, I find that these fairly
> close fitting lids usually create a build up of pressure and some of
> the
> liquid then squirts out, all over the place.
> To utilise all available oven space it means stacking two casserole
> dishes
> one on top of the other. Using a normal oven this would be simple to
> do
> (bearing in mind I'm not using lids) by using a metal rack on the
> lower one
> to support the upper one.
> But when using the combination feature (which I find usefully lessons
> the
> cooking time) both normal heating and microwave are used
> "together". So when
> the microwave is on, a metal rack cannot be used.
> We have been trying to think of a means of supporting one casserole
> dish on
> top of another one ( the top one usually a smaller diameter ) by means
> of
> something that will tolerate microwaves and the hotter temperatures
> using
> the normal oven heating element. Does such a thing exist anywhere for
> this
> purpose, or what might be some neat way to solve this problem? Thanks
> for
> advice.
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== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 2:38 pm
From: "Bob F"
Lou wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hcsd5a$qua$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Go to a cheapo tile shop, or even hardware store, and get
>> appropriate size large ceramic floor tiles to separate/stack the
>> dishes.
>
> This is **food** we're talking about here - whatever you use, if it
> has a chance of coming into contact with food, should be food grade.
Ceramic tile is used all the time for kitchen counters.
And it's just separating the dishes. Probably not even touching the food.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 3:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Bob F wrote:
> Lou wrote:
>> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hcsd5a$qua$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> Go to a cheapo tile shop, or even hardware store, and get
>>> appropriate size large ceramic floor tiles to separate/stack the
>>> dishes.
>>
>> This is **food** we're talking about here - whatever you use, if it
>> has a chance of coming into contact with food, should be food grade.
>
> Ceramic tile is used all the time for kitchen counters.
>
> And it's just separating the dishes. Probably not even touching the food.
Makes more sense to use ceramic plates etc instead of tiles.
I use those Corelle plates for that, works fine in both a combo oven and pure oven of either type.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:25 pm
From: Al
On Nov 5, 3:47 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com)
wrote:
> Piling one dish upon another is going to alter the way the mocrowave heats
> both dishes! The waves are going through double densities. So whatever you
> think you are saving, you are probably spending in needing to heat longer.
> If you want to cover a dish withour the top "exploding" just don't civer
> it tightly; leave a little open space for the steam to escape.
> xxxxo
Please don't bother the OP with technical facts about how microwaves
work. HE/she would rather experiment with putting wood and other
objects into a device designed to cook food in certain reasonable
portions. I hope it works out for the OP. I would add in passing that
some of the off-gassing from putting objects not designed for
microwave cooking into such ovens can cause health problems, but what
the hell!
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:35 pm
From: Al
On Nov 5, 7:02 am, "john royce" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> "Al" <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ca94cb91-c5de-46e5-ac70-228b9992f08a@u13g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 5:32 pm, Rod <polygo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> Al wrote:
>
> >> <>
>
> >> > You will save exactly nothing.
> >> > The MW puts out so many BTUs and that is absorbed by the food. Two
> >> > cups of water will take twice as long to boil because it takes twice
> >> > as many BTUs to raise the temperature the the boiling point. The same
> >> > principle applies to your plan to put piles of food in the oven. Two
> >> > equal piles will take twice as long to cook and it won't cook as
> >> > evenly either when the food is crowded together.
> >> > Time to rethink your cunning plan. I use two different microwaves on
> >> > two different circuits.
>
> >> Agreed. But the OP later wrote:
>
> >> "Using the oven eating element easily brings the temperature up to where
> >> the wood (chopsticks) cannot cope with it."
>
> >> Which seems to question just what the OP is doing. Using microwave
> >> heating, using element heating, or both?
>
> >> And if he really wants to minimise electricity usage perhaps a hay box
> >> would help?
> >> Rod
>
> Thanks to all (except the couple of empty vessals who waste everyones time).
> To answer some general points: this oven uses both microwave and heating
> element both at the same time. Our instruction manual specifically say not
> to use any metal. Once I put in a plate that had a gold glazed rim and it
> started sparking like crazy. Its not just about economy, the microwave is
> not so big; so to fill it up is more convenient. Upturned lids are so close
> fitting that pressure builds up and liquid squirts out, so thats a no go.
>
I solved that lid problem by drilling 1/8" holes in the lids in
various places. Liquids can't squirt out unless the container is
either over filled and/or over heated. If you start boiling
everything, it has to go somewhere. Be prepared to replace your
equipment more often too as the cooking methods you favor are more
taxing to the electronics. Heat is one of the main killers of
electronic parts. Your oven is staying hotter longer and is not able
to dispense with the heat. One of the first things that goes with
microwaves subjected to this is the overheat sensor/s. These are mere
$30 parts, but take an expensive service call or bench charge to
replace. I'd do it for you for about $100. And that's the cheapest
thing that can happen.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 12:29 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote
> Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.net> wrote
>>>> Nobody should be a programmer. I used to think it took five
>>>> years, but I was wrong - it takes ten years, and they won't
>>>> leave the toolchain under you long enough for that to happen.
>>> please explain ok
>> Ok.
>> Programmers should never make things worse. In order to do that, you
>> have to understand all the people who will be touched by what you do.
> I think I understand.... not sure
> Reason I ask is I'm taking my first ever C++ course and
> learning basic programming.... and one thing I have
> learned is I would NEVER want to be a programmer as
> just to much SITTING!! It seems like a very UNHEALTHY
> career? Yes?
Its something that grabs you or it doesnt.
Its certainly got a lot more SITTING than most.
Very arguable if thats unhealthy or not and you cant ignore the health of your mind either.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:54 pm
From: me@privacy.net
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>and you cant ignore the health of your mind either.
what do you mean rod?
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> and you cant ignore the health of your mind either.
> what do you mean rod?
That the best thing you can do for the health of your mind is to enjoy what you are doing work wise.
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TOPIC: paid $10.99 shipping on $9.99 SD card
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 12:42 pm
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com)
xxxxo
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Ohioguy wrote:
Of course you have recourse. Complain to the company! When they cancelled
the camera, they should have notified you and given you the option to redo
your entire order. if they did not do so, then you should return the card
at their postage expense (ask for aN RTV number) and tell them you want
all the expense associated with the card refunded.
> Recently, we had our ~1 year old digital camera stolen, so I went
> back to ecost.com, to purchase another refurbished one for $99 plus
> ship. They charge $10.99 for shipping. It seemed a little high, but
> that's only about 11% of the order total, so I figured ok. I also
> added
> on a 4GB class 6 SD card for $9.99 The camera said "temporarily
> out of
> stock", but let me add it to the cart and purchase it.
> Well, they decided to ship the SD card, and cancelled the camera
> part
> of my order. Now I have evidently paid $11 to ship a $10 item the size
> of a postage stamp. I'm rather annoyed, to put it mildly. As a rule,
> I
> never, ever pay more than 50% of the cost of an item in shipping - I
> find it locally instead of paying more than that.
> Do I have any recourse?
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 2:17 pm
From: Warren Block
Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
> Recently, we had our ~1 year old digital camera stolen, so I went
> back to ecost.com, to purchase another refurbished one for $99 plus
> ship.
Yikes, they're 2.25 out of 10 on resellerratings.
> They charge $10.99 for shipping. It seemed a little high, but
> that's only about 11% of the order total, so I figured ok. I also added
> on a 4GB class 6 SD card for $9.99 The camera said "temporarily out of
> stock", but let me add it to the cart and purchase it.
>
> Well, they decided to ship the SD card, and cancelled the camera part
> of my order. Now I have evidently paid $11 to ship a $10 item the size
> of a postage stamp. I'm rather annoyed, to put it mildly. As a rule, I
> never, ever pay more than 50% of the cost of an item in shipping - I
> find it locally instead of paying more than that.
>
> Do I have any recourse?
Enter a review for ecost on resellerratings.com and describe the
problem. They have someone reading those and responding, but if their
rating is already that low it may mean they're not too worried about
keeping customers happy.
--
Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota * USA
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TOPIC: anyone think of a solution to this clinical trials problem?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 3:52 pm
From: sf
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:21:00 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>sf wrote
>> Bill <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>>> The basic needs are food, water, and shelter. So far as I know,
>>> these things can be had easily for free just about anywhere in the
>>> U.S. - Just ask!
>
>> The OP isn't located in the US. Great Britain Pound sign = £
>
>It isnt great britain anymore, just britain.
>
Scotland uses the same symbol.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:38 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
sf wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> sf wrote
>>> Bill <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> The basic needs are food, water, and shelter. So far as I know,
>>>> these things can be had easily for free just about anywhere in the
>>>> U.S. - Just ask!
>>> The OP isn't located in the US. Great Britain Pound sign = £
>> It isnt great britain anymore, just britain.
> Scotland uses the same symbol.
Its never been great.
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TOPIC: Fire starting "kit"
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Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:07 pm
From: rocket scientist
To get the wood stove started in the morning I prepare ahead of time a
paper bag that contains. some saw-dust, a piece of cardboard,some
kindling ,newspaper & maybe a piece of egg carton.
it sure gets the flue up to speed, pronto.
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TOPIC: Zircon Earring-JE0301 Fashion Jewelry,Wholesale Zircon Earring
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:04 pm
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Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:04 pm
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