Sunday, November 29, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 2 new messages in 2 topics - digest

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* As a pressure group, we have to emotionalize issues - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f0b30ef86a6e5ddb?hl=en
* Idiot interviewing Idiot - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e22fdc1840afaaf6?hl=en

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TOPIC: As a pressure group, we have to emotionalize issues
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f0b30ef86a6e5ddb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 28 2009 9:37 pm
From: "sr"

Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration
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AIP National Issues Affiliates -> Committee for American Resource
Self-reliance

"As a pressure group, we have to emotionalize issues."


BBC

Gerd Leipold, the outgoing leader of Greenpeace, admitted that his
organization's recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was
"a mistake." Greenpeace said in a July 15 press release that there will be
an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. BBC reporter Stephen
Sackur on the "Hardtalk" program pressed Leipold until he admitted the claim
was wrong.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=6933


Posted 2009-11-26 1:06 PM (#29216) By: Editor


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TOPIC: Idiot interviewing Idiot
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e22fdc1840afaaf6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 28 2009 9:43 pm
From: "sr"


http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2007/05/23/gore-outrage-on-larry-king-some-inconvenient-facts/

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Gore Outrage on Larry King: Some Inconvenient Facts
Posted by Patrick J. Michaels

Here's the transcript of a Q/A by Al Gore last night on Larry King Live

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vice President Al Gore, what issues caused by climate
change globally are likely to affect the United States security in the next
10 years?

KING: Al?

GORE: You know, even a one-meter increase, even a three-foot increase in
sea level would cause tens of millions of climate refugees.

If Greenland were to break up and slip into the sea or West Antarctica, or
half of either and half of both, it would be a 20-feet increase, and that
would lead to more than 450 million climate refugees.

The direct impacts on the U.S. have already begun. Today, 49 percent of
America is in conditions of drought or near drought. And we have had
droughts in the past, but the odds of serious droughts increase when the
average temperatures go up, as they have been going up.

We have fires in California, in Florida, in other states, unprecedented
fire season last year, directly correlated with higher temperatures, which
dry out the soils, dry out the vegetation.

We have a very serious threat of losing enough soil moisture in a hotter
world that agriculture here in the United States would be greatly affected.
Now, the list is too long to give you here, but look, these issues are more
important that Anna Nicole Smith and Paris Hilton, and they are not being
talked about.

FACT 1. There is not one shred of evidence in the refereed scientific
literature speaking of a three-foot increase in sea level in ten years. The
best estimates from the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change range from 0.8 to 1.7 INCHES.

FACT 2. There is no trend towards increasing drought area in the United
States that is related to planetary warming. We have good data on drought
area back to 1895. The correlation between the area of the U.S. under
drought and planetary temperature is statistically ZERO.

FACT 3. As the mean planetary temperature has warmed since 1975, U.S. crop
yields have INCREASED significantly, just as they did during the period of
cooling from 1945 through 1975, or during the warming from 1910 to 1945.

It is a true outrage that Gore can get away with this on live television and
not be called out by the inconvenient facts.

You have to hav a functioning brain to be able to question Al Gores facts,
Larry King does not have that ability to ask indept questions, at this late
stage of life, and Larry has the same mindset so he going to go along to get
along, know what I mean, Pat?


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