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* National Broadband Plan - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* Surprise! California does something stupid - again. - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/48d02eb74da95076?hl=en
* Please do not buy a new car. - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Shortage of Doctors - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/259d3006048a5d48?hl=en
* Cookware - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1fbe380ec171a5e2?hl=en
* Enjoy a New Lifestyle with Work From Home Online Jobs - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e70af30adcc04fc3?hl=en
* Learn More About Where to Look for Real Online Jobs - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cf99897686855046?hl=en
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TOPIC: National Broadband Plan
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/54777a3787644a5e?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 3:46 pm
From: Shawn Hirn
In article
<1dc73b57-d5e5-4c23-9342-ecc2bd970bb7@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>,
Artys <lajolie@GMI.net> wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> Here I am on dial-up, and I went to the library and read the Wall
> Street Journal. It had an article about the FCC trying to force
> people onto broadband by a new law. They want to increase taxes on
> telephones, and perhaps other things. Here in my area, so many people
> cannot afford a computer, that the library ones are always crowded. I
> guess the companies like netzero will be forced out of business. I
> have my art website and email, and they are important to me, but I
> cannot afford the higher prices. If you agree with me, call your
> Congressman and tell them that you oppose this plan.
It would help if you cited a bill number. Also, what's your monthly
payment for dial-up ISP service and where do you live? DSL is getting so
cheap these days in many areas that for a modest fee that's typically no
more then paying for a second line to use for dial-up, you can get
broadband Internet service that blows away your dial-up service in speed
even though its not as fast as the higher priced broadband plans.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 7:24 pm
From: Al
On Nov 19, 3:10 pm, Artys <lajo...@GMI.net> wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> Here I am on dial-up, and I went to the library and read the Wall
> Street Journal. It had an article about the FCC trying to force
> people onto broadband by a new law. They want to increase taxes on
> telephones, and perhaps other things. Here in my area, so many people
> cannot afford a computer, that the library ones are always crowded. I
> guess the companies like netzero will be forced out of business. I
> have my art website and email, and they are important to me, but I
> cannot afford the higher prices. If you agree with me, call your
> Congressman and tell them that you oppose this plan.
If people in your area can't afford a computer, they don't have to
worry about dial up versus broadband. Have them vote for more library
computers. The only thing forcing dial up out is the fact that DSL and
others are now so cheap. DSL only cost $19.95/mo. where I live and I
still use dial up for $9.95. I'll be changing soon.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 8:10 pm
From: Les Cargill
Artys wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> Here I am on dial-up, and I went to the library and read the Wall
> Street Journal. It had an article about the FCC trying to force
> people onto broadband by a new law. They want to increase taxes on
> telephones, and perhaps other things. Here in my area, so many people
> cannot afford a computer, that the library ones are always crowded. I
> guess the companies like netzero will be forced out of business.
Not necessarily. Is this the article?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125858121746254383.html
It says nothing about new taxes.
I
> have my art website and email, and they are important to me, but I
> cannot afford the higher prices. If you agree with me, call your
> Congressman and tell them that you oppose this plan.
It is just my particular situation, but I pay less for cable
modem (plus cable TV) than I would for dial up plus a phone
line. I have VoIP phone service that works better than* a
land line. It is totally frugal.
*quality is better, but it won't be there in a power failure
unless I buy a good UPS. I have my cel phone.
Are you positive you cannot get DSL? By the '96 Telecomms Act,
your phone company must at least have a plan in place. You may
be eligible for low-cost service and not know it. WiMax is
becoming commonplace in "underserved areas."
One possible resource is a Linux Users Group in your
area. They probably have a website, and are frequently
knowlegeable about these things. And if nothing else,
buy a WAP* that can be configured as a wireless bridge
and cantenna and find a sympathetic neighbor with
broadband.
*wireless access point, possibly running dd-wrt or the like.
I put all them ten dollar words in there so you can use them to
ask questions of people local to you.
--
Les Cargill
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 8:15 pm
From: BigDog1
On Nov 19, 4:10 pm, Artys <lajo...@GMI.net> wrote:
> Hello group,
>
> Here I am on dial-up, and I went to the library and read the Wall
> Street Journal. It had an article about the FCC trying to force
> people onto broadband by a new law. They want to increase taxes on
> telephones, and perhaps other things. Here in my area, so many people
> cannot afford a computer, that the library ones are always crowded. I
> guess the companies like netzero will be forced out of business. I
> have my art website and email, and they are important to me, but I
> cannot afford the higher prices. If you agree with me, call your
> Congressman and tell them that you oppose this plan.
The FCC is not trying to force anyone off of dial up and on to
broadband. And there's no "new law." What they're doing is
increasing the deployment of broadband service into areas that don't
have it. See:
Those who wish to join the 21st century will be able to. Those who
wish to stay in the 80's and remain on dial up will be free to do
that. What will probably happen though, is that dial up service
providers will begin to die off as their subscribers move to
broadband. That's a good thing. Dial up sucks. If I lived where
dial up was my only option I'd move...really...seriously...I'd move!
And by the way, no one "can't afford" a computer. What that usually
translates to is they don't want to pay for one. Basic laptops can be
had for less than $400.00 and basic desktops for around $250.00 these
days. I recently saw an ad for a refurbished Dell Aspire laptop for
$265.00. Anyone who's truly too poor to afford one, or too stupid to
manage their money so they can buy a basic computer, doesn't need the
internet and doesn't care.
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TOPIC: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 5:21 pm
From: Paul_E_Wog
Ohioguy wrote:
> "The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an
> old cathode-ray tube set. Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TVs guzzle
> less — about 43 percent more energy than tube sets, according to a study
> by Pacific Gas & Electric Co., the state's largest utility. LCDs now
> account for about 90 percent of the 4 million TVs sold in California
> each year."
>
> - so in other words, the market is already switching to LCD's for the
> most part, and they save 43% off of the tube TV's most of us were using
> just a few years ago. Great! A 43% difference in just a decade is
> fantastic, but people making good choices on their own is still not good
> enough for some special interests.
I believe you don't have that quite right. The article states, (and
further research appears to confirm):
"Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TVs guzzle less — about 43 percent
----> more <---- energy than --> tube <--- sets, according to a study by
Pacific Gas & Electric Co., the state's largest utility."
They don't use 43% less than tube sets, they use 43% less than plasma
sets. If Plasma sets use "more than three times as much energy as an
old cathode-ray tube set" then an LCD would still be about 30% more than
a cathode-ray tube.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 5:40 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <qFeNm.6320$cX4.472@newsfe10.iad>, Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_california_tv_energy
[ ... ]
>"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an
>old cathode-ray tube set. Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TVs guzzle
>less — about 43 percent more energy than tube sets, according to a study
>by Pacific Gas & Electric Co., the state's largest utility. LCDs now
>account for about 90 percent of the 4 million TVs sold in California
>each year."
> - so in other words, the market is already switching to LCD's for the
>most part, and they save 43% off of the tube TV's most of us were using
>just a few years ago. Great! A 43% difference in just a decade is
>fantastic, but people making good choices on their own is still not good
>enough for some special interests.
[ ... ]
I think you have something backwards--your quote from the article says
LCD TVs use 43% _more_ power than CRTs, so there's no savings in power.
However, without knowing what size/model LCDs were being compared with
what size/model CRTs, those numbers are all meaningless. I'm sure the
old 25" console CRT in the other house draws lots more than a 25" LCD,
but probably less than a 52" plasma.
Good old government surveys...
Gary
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"Where large, expensive pieces of exotic woods are converted to valueless,
hard to dispose of sawdust, chips and scraps." Charlie B.s' definition of
woodworking.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 7:00 pm
From: The Real Bev
Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <qFeNm.6320$cX4.472@newsfe10.iad>, Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
>>http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_california_tv_energy
> [ ... ]
>
>>"The average plasma TV uses more than three times as much energy as an
>>old cathode-ray tube set. Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TVs guzzle
>>less — about 43 percent more energy than tube sets, according to a study
>>by Pacific Gas & Electric Co., the state's largest utility. LCDs now
>>account for about 90 percent of the 4 million TVs sold in California
>>each year."
And of course PG&E wants everybody to cut down on the amount of electricity
they use -- it's well known that they charge by the month and not the
kilowatt-hour :-(
>> - so in other words, the market is already switching to LCD's for the
>>most part, and they save 43% off of the tube TV's most of us were using
>>just a few years ago. Great! A 43% difference in just a decade is
>>fantastic, but people making good choices on their own is still not good
>>enough for some special interests.
I'm ashamed of California. I was born here and have lived here all my life,
and I HATE what we're become. Biggest recent disappointment was Ahnold, who
talked a good game before he was elected.
> I think you have something backwards--your quote from the article says
> LCD TVs use 43% _more_ power than CRTs, so there's no savings in power.
>
> However, without knowing what size/model LCDs were being compared with
> what size/model CRTs, those numbers are all meaningless. I'm sure the
> old 25" console CRT in the other house draws lots more than a 25" LCD,
> but probably less than a 52" plasma.
My 23" LCD is nowhere near as warm as my 21" CRT.
> Good old government surveys...
Results first, survey afterward.
--
Cheers, Bev
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 11:19 pm
From: "Annie Woughman"
"Chilly8" <Chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:he43h9$esl$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:qFeNm.6320$cX4.472@newsfe10.iad...
>> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_california_tv_energy
>>
>>
>> "Some manufacturers said implementing a power standard will limit
>> consumer choice and harm California retailers because consumers could
>> simply buy TVs out of state or order them online. Industry
>
Californians already come up to Oregon in droves to buy everything from flat
screen televisions, computers, and any type of luxury items, but it isn't
because they can't buy them in California--it is because of the 10% sales
tax (Oregon has none.) Any day of the week you can drive to our local
Costco and every other car (as well as U-Haul trucks and trailers) in the
lot is from California. I overheard one guy telling a clerk that it wasn't
only the sales tax, California also charges a luxury tax on items like
big-screen TV's. Groups of people take turns making the trip filling out
lists for their friends and neighbors. The amount they save in sales and
luxury tax makes it worth the amount spent on gas--especially when they
trade off.
> That is very true. All one would have to do is draw out enough
> cash from the bank, then go across the state line and buy one.
> By using cash, no credit cards or checks, there is no paper
> trail the state could use to find people using such sets, if they
> were to go the next step and outlaw posession.
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TOPIC: Please do not buy a new car.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 6:09 pm
From: wismel@yahoo.com
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:55 -0700, wismel@yahoo.com wrote:
>Product still grossly overpriced. Workers still getting those very
>high wages. Government will again bail them out but the
>push for more efficient vehicles will escalate Do what ever
>repairs are required even if it means a new engine. You'll
>still be ahead of the game. Make this a thumb-your-nose
>exercise to those in business and government would got
>us into this probably terminal condition.
>
>Some years back in Virgina's fox hunting country region,
>it became apparent that those with the most money
>and status drove below average vehicles, some of
>them quite trashy. But they knew their place in
>society and simply didn't give a hoot about a vehicle.
>
>Minor repairs can be done duct tape.
>
>ted
The days one's merit was based on what they drove exists
only in the ghettos. Best Washington, DC traffic car I owned
was a 15 year old AMC Hornet(1974 model). Painted a sort of orange.
People
were careful to stay as it was obvious that the driver simply
didn't give a shit.
ted
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 7:21 pm
From: Al
On Nov 19, 6:09 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:55 -0700, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >Product still grossly overpriced. Workers still getting those very
> >high wages. Government will again bail them out but the
> >push for more efficient vehicles will escalate Do what ever
> >repairs are required even if it means a new engine. You'll
> >still be ahead of the game. Make this a thumb-your-nose
> >exercise to those in business and government would got
> >us into this probably terminal condition.
>
> >Some years back in Virgina's fox hunting country region,
> >it became apparent that those with the most money
> >and status drove below average vehicles, some of
> >them quite trashy. But they knew their place in
> >society and simply didn't give a hoot about a vehicle.
>
> >Minor repairs can be done duct tape.
>
> >ted
>
> The days one's merit was based on what they drove exists
> only in the ghettos. Best Washington, DC traffic car I owned
> was a 15 year old AMC Hornet(1974 model). Painted a sort of orange.
> People
> were careful to stay as it was obvious that the driver simply
> didn't give a shit.
>
> ted
So what's your point? You have to drive something usually. Pick
whatever works for you. I used to buy new. In recent years I've gotten
steals on used vehicles. Car companies are aware of your cunning plan.
They have tended to raise the price of repair parts in an effort to
encourage people to dump old iron. Eventually, the Chinese will
dictate price.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 9:03 pm
From: --Bryan
On Nov 19, 9:21 pm, Al <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 6:09 pm, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:38:55 -0700, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >Product still grossly overpriced. Workers still getting those very
> > >high wages. Government will again bail them out but the
> > >push for more efficient vehicles will escalate Do what ever
> > >repairs are required even if it means a new engine. You'll
> > >still be ahead of the game. Make this a thumb-your-nose
> > >exercise to those in business and government would got
> > >us into this probably terminal condition.
>
> > >Some years back in Virgina's fox hunting country region,
> > >it became apparent that those with the most money
> > >and status drove below average vehicles, some of
> > >them quite trashy. But they knew their place in
> > >society and simply didn't give a hoot about a vehicle.
>
> > >Minor repairs can be done duct tape.
>
> > >ted
>
> > The days one's merit was based on what they drove exists
> > only in the ghettos. Best Washington, DC traffic car I owned
> > was a 15 year old AMC Hornet(1974 model). Painted a sort of orange.
> > People
> > were careful to stay as it was obvious that the driver simply
> > didn't give a shit.
>
> > ted
>
> So what's your point? You have to drive something usually.
So what's *your* point? You could drive lots of things. You could
drive a golfball. You could drive cattle on the Chisholm trail. You
could drive your mother freakin' crazy for that matter.
--Bryan
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 6:43 pm
From: The Real Bev
h wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> And should cancer be a possibility, choose the City of Hope emergency
>> room; they can't kick you out, but they can prevent you from coming in if
>> your case doesn't look hopeful.
>
> Wow. So you get to die in the street if they "think" they can't save you?
> Glad I live in NY.
No. If you have cancer and are in a different hospital you have to have your
doctors APPLY, there has to be at least SOME hope of a cure, and I believe the
case must be interesting. The process takes weeks.
If you turn up in their emergency room with serious cancer, I don't believe
they'll send you somewhere else, but they might. Once you're in you get
excellent care, it's just getting in that's the problem. Like Caltech or Stanford.
--
Cheers, Bev
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"If you put the government in charge of the desert, there would
be a sand shortage within ten years." -- M. Friedman (?)
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TOPIC: Cookware
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 6:49 pm
From: The Real Bev
Marsha wrote:
> Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH to reply wrote:
>> Marsha wrote:
>>> We're looking for good quality cookware. Is Calphalon worth the price
>>> or are you just paying for the name? Does a good set of cookware
>>> really make a difference? We are not gourmet cooks. We just want
>>> skillets that last more than a year or two. Thanks for the input.
>>
>> My suggestion for skillets that will last a long time: Cast iron.
>
> I agree, and we have one, but use it just for steaks. For everything
> else, we'd like something that needs less maintenance.
What maintenance? Once you get it burned black you can treat it like anything
else, just don't soak it for a couple of days or it will find a spot to rust.
Stainless steel lasts forever, just make sure the handles are attached well.
ALWAYS buy used unless it's an emergency. Non-stick coatings aren't all
they're cracked up to be.
--
Cheers, Bev
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
"If you put the government in charge of the desert, there would
be a sand shortage within ten years." -- M. Friedman (?)
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 6:52 pm
From: The Real Bev
frater mus wrote:
> Marsha wrote:
>> We're looking for good quality cookware. Is Calphalon worth the price
>> or are you just paying for the name? Does a good set of cookware really
>> make a difference? We are not gourmet cooks. We just want skillets
>> that last more than a year or two. Thanks for the input.
>
> Cal is nice but overpriced; folks that buy it on name only seem to
> either not use it (display only) or want it to act like teflon (which
> it's not, so it doesn't). Used Cal has often been abused by non-foodie
> heathens but you may find some in good condition in garage sales.
If you CAN abuse it it's not worth the price they ask. Pots are tools and
should be able to stand up to whatever use they get without whining.
> I like heavy, no-frills commercial gear from the local restaurant supply
> store. Oven-safe, tough, reasonably-priced. Only buy the pieces you need.
I would LOVE to have one of those 20-gallon aluminum stock pots. I have no
idea what I'd do with it and no place to put it, but I WANT one!
--
Cheers, Bev
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"Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority."
-- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 7:16 pm
From: Michael Black
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, The Real Bev wrote:
> Stainless steel lasts forever, just make sure the handles are attached well.
> ALWAYS buy used unless it's an emergency. Non-stick coatings aren't all
> they're cracked up to be.
>
Definitely. I bought a non-stick frying pan years ago, and it took a lot
less time than I would have expected for the coating to start coming off.
I scrapped that, was given a new one for Christmas as a replacement, which
didn't last any longer.
I came across a store that had stainless steel frying pans with a heavy (I
guess aluminum) plate on the bottom and the price was low enough that I
figured it was a clearance. I don't have problems with things sticking,
but it sure lasts long, and no worry about damaging the coating.
It was either that store, or something similar, where I got a nice pot
with a similar aluminum plate on the bottom, with a steamer insert, for
an equally low price.
Buying bit by bit is definitely the way to go. Then you can look for
clearance or used, but also you pick what you get, rather than having
to live with a set that might have a good price if you could figure out a
use for that tiny pot you never use.
Michael
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 9:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
The Real Bev wrote:
> frater mus wrote:
>
>> Marsha wrote:
>>> We're looking for good quality cookware. Is Calphalon worth the
>>> price or are you just paying for the name? Does a good set of
>>> cookware really make a difference? We are not gourmet cooks. We
>>> just want skillets that last more than a year or two. Thanks for
>>> the input.
>>
>> Cal is nice but overpriced; folks that buy it on name only seem to
>> either not use it (display only) or want it to act like teflon (which
>> it's not, so it doesn't). Used Cal has often been abused by
>> non-foodie heathens but you may find some in good condition in
>> garage sales.
>
> If you CAN abuse it it's not worth the price they ask. Pots are
> tools and should be able to stand up to whatever use they get without
> whining.
>> I like heavy, no-frills commercial gear from the local restaurant
>> supply store. Oven-safe, tough, reasonably-priced. Only buy the
>> pieces you need.
>
> I would LOVE to have one of those 20-gallon aluminum stock pots. I
> have no idea what I'd do with it and no place to put it, but I WANT one!
Stainless is better, you cant do some stuff like marmalade in aluminum.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 9:48 pm
From: The Real Bev
Rod Speed wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> frater mus wrote:
>>
>>> Marsha wrote:
>>>> We're looking for good quality cookware. Is Calphalon worth the
>>>> price or are you just paying for the name? Does a good set of
>>>> cookware really make a difference? We are not gourmet cooks. We
>>>> just want skillets that last more than a year or two. Thanks for
>>>> the input.
>>>
>>> Cal is nice but overpriced; folks that buy it on name only seem to
>>> either not use it (display only) or want it to act like teflon (which
>>> it's not, so it doesn't). Used Cal has often been abused by
>>> non-foodie heathens but you may find some in good condition in
>>> garage sales.
>>
>> If you CAN abuse it it's not worth the price they ask. Pots are
>> tools and should be able to stand up to whatever use they get without
>> whining.
I wasn't clear. I meant if abuse HURTS the pot it's not worth the price...
Carry on.
>>> I like heavy, no-frills commercial gear from the local restaurant
>>> supply store. Oven-safe, tough, reasonably-priced. Only buy the
>>> pieces you need.
>>
>> I would LOVE to have one of those 20-gallon aluminum stock pots. I
>> have no idea what I'd do with it and no place to put it, but I WANT one!
>
> Stainless is better, you cant do some stuff like marmalade in aluminum.
That's interesting. I've made my own lemon curd, but it had never occurred to
me to make marmalade. Why won't aluminum work?
--
Cheers, Bev
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 8:47 pm
From: Aitla Bhagya
Today with the internet is possible to make the leap from a
traditional office job to work from home online jobs. Many people have
tried work from home online jobs and every day more and more people
are interested in this new trend of work. Therefore many business
companies are offering freelance jobs opportunities. These freelance
jobs offer many benefits to both employers and employees.
Just Visit :
http://www.inetearnings.com
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Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 9:34 pm
From: Aitla Bhagya
Today with the internet is possible to make the leap from a
traditional office job to work from home online jobs. Many people have
tried work from home online jobs and every day more and more people
are interested in this new trend of work. Therefore many business
companies are offering freelance jobs opportunities. These freelance
jobs offer many benefits to both employers and employees.
Just Visit :
http://www.inetearnings.com
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 8:51 pm
From: Aitla Bhagya
Have you ever wanted to have a part time job? In case you do; then I
suggest you read this article. It is possible that you will find the
part time job that you are looking for. Now I will tell you some thing
about myself. I am a professional Doctor and I work in a Private
hospital (a big one). My salary is about $4000 a month but I wanted to
earn more. So how can I do a part time job when I have to spend almost
10 hours in the hospital?
Just Visit :
http://www.yourforexmoney.com
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 19 2009 9:32 pm
From: Aitla Bhagya
Have you ever wanted to have a part time job? In case you do; then I
suggest you read this article. It is possible that you will find the
part time job that you are looking for. Now I will tell you some thing
about myself. I am a professional Doctor and I work in a Private
hospital (a big one). My salary is about $4000 a month but I wanted to
earn more. So how can I do a part time job when I have to spend almost
10 hours in the hospital?
Just Visit :
http://www.yourforexmoney.com
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