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* Definitions of Frugality - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Unemployment hits 10.2% for October. What's behind that number? - 1 messages,
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* diy rack for oven problem - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* In what way are you LEAST frugal? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Definitions of Frugality
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4db20ff0fb8d6fd6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 10:52 am
From: Gordon
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in
news:7lj2e3F3e2djqU1@mid.individual.net:
> Vandy Terre wrote
>
>> There was a thread started over the impossibility of definition of
>> frugality.
>
>> IMO, defining frugality is much like defining personal religion.
>> Each individual has their own definition and practice.
>
> Thats not what definitions are about.
>
>> Personally for me frugality means being able to live with in the
>> income earned.
>
> Thats not frugality. Frugality involves a lot more than just that,
> most obviously when the income is substantial and its just frittered
> away on baubles etc.
It's a good working definition for her situation. But feel free
to expand it to a more universal definition if you want to.
>
>> Cutting off the satellite for television was not a major loss.
>> Frugality kicked in. We dropped the satellite feed.
>
> So now you have nothing for real news and current affairs.
>
Internet.
>> Then we looked at what that had been costing us per month
>> and realized that for the same money we could have purchased
>> a great many DVDs. So instead of a $100 plus a month for
>> satellite, we now spend maybe $20 a month on DVDs from
>> the $5 rack at the discount department store.
Streaming video over a high speed internet connection
is even cheaper.
>> Most
>> groceries will slice the ham for you. I have the ham sliced at the
>> grocery, take it home, wrap it for freezing and then it is used as
>> needed with out spoilage.
>
> Makes more sense to get a slicer at a yard sale or ebay.
>
Slicing is free at the Grocery store. At least around here.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:53 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Gordon wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Vandy Terre wrote
>>> There was a thread started over the impossibility of definition of frugality.
>>> IMO, defining frugality is much like defining personal religion.
>>> Each individual has their own definition and practice.
>> Thats not what definitions are about.
>>> Personally for me frugality means being able to live with in the income earned.
>> Thats not frugality. Frugality involves a lot more than just that, most obviously
>> when the income is substantial and its just frittered away on baubles etc.
> It's a good working definition for her situation.
Nope, particularly with her approach to repairing clothes
when they are so cheap to replace for peanuts from yard
sales and charity shops etc instead of getting a job etc.
> But feel free to expand it to a more universal definition if you want to.
I've always said it isnt really feasible to do any better than use a dictionary.
>>> Cutting off the satellite for television was not a major loss.
>>> Frugality kicked in. We dropped the satellite feed.
>> So now you have nothing for real news and current affairs.
> Internet.
You dont know that she bothers and thats not as good anyway, particularly with docos etc.
>>> Then we looked at what that had been costing us per month
>>> and realized that for the same money we could have purchased
>>> a great many DVDs. So instead of a $100 plus a month for
>>> satellite, we now spend maybe $20 a month on DVDs from
>>> the $5 rack at the discount department store.
> Streaming video over a high speed internet connection is even cheaper.
But a high speed net connection may not be in her situation.
>>> Most groceries will slice the ham for you. I have the ham
>>> sliced at the grocery, take it home, wrap it for freezing
>>> and then it is used as needed with out spoilage.
>
>> Makes more sense to get a slicer at a yard sale or ebay.
> Slicing is free at the Grocery store. At least around here.
Nope, it doesnt last as long sliced at the store as it does slicing it yourself as required.
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TOPIC: Unemployment hits 10.2% for October. What's behind that number?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d18a5e34e49160db?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 11:06 am
From: Straightarrow
On Nov 6, 11:42 am, "Alex Clayton" <alexx1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "lorad" <lorad...@cs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0bf23d78-b2d6-47dc-a8aa-56d566d7950a@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 6, 6:37 am, "Hiker" <hi...@not4mail.org> wrote:
>
> > Education is a buffer ino hard economic times.
>
> >http://www.theupperdeck.com/?p=129
>
> > --
>
> >Getting rid of 20-30 million illegal job stealing aliens would help
> >too.
>
> Oh come on. Everyone knows they are only doing the jobs no American will
> take. Who the hell is going to pick the fruit and pack the meat for the food
> stamp people to buy at the store if they run off all the "help".
> --
Yeah,no shit. For example a crew is laying new sewer pipe under the
road close to where I live. I suppose they can't find an American
citizen that'll operate a bulldozer,front end loader,trackhoe or dump
truck.
> How's all that "hope and change" working out for you so far?
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TOPIC: diy rack for oven problem
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ded71cb392c07611?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 11:17 am
From: "Bob F"
Al wrote:
> On Nov 5, 3:47 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com)
> wrote:
>> Piling one dish upon another is going to alter the way the mocrowave
>> heats both dishes! The waves are going through double densities. So
>> whatever you think you are saving, you are probably spending in
>> needing to heat longer. If you want to cover a dish withour the top
>> "exploding" just don't civer it tightly; leave a little open space
>> for the steam to escape.
>> xxxxo
>
> Please don't bother the OP with technical facts about how microwaves
> work. HE/she would rather experiment with putting wood and other
> objects into a device designed to cook food in certain reasonable
> portions. I hope it works out for the OP. I would add in passing that
> some of the off-gassing from putting objects not designed for
> microwave cooking into such ovens can cause health problems, but what
> the hell!
And we won't bother you with facts like the one that the OP has a "microwave
combination oven", not a microwave oven.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 1:46 pm
From: brooklyn1
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:17:58 -0800, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Al wrote:
>> On Nov 5, 3:47 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com)
>> wrote:
>>> Piling one dish upon another is going to alter the way the mocrowave
>>> heats both dishes! The waves are going through double densities. So
>>> whatever you think you are saving, you are probably spending in
>>> needing to heat longer. If you want to cover a dish withour the top
>>> "exploding" just don't civer it tightly; leave a little open space
>>> for the steam to escape.
>>> xxxxo
>>
>> Please don't bother the OP with technical facts about how microwaves
>> work. HE/she would rather experiment with putting wood and other
>> objects into a device designed to cook food in certain reasonable
>> portions. I hope it works out for the OP. I would add in passing that
>> some of the off-gassing from putting objects not designed for
>> microwave cooking into such ovens can cause health problems, but what
>> the hell!
>
>And we won't bother you with facts like the one that the OP has a "microwave
>combination oven", not a microwave oven.
>
>
But in the present case it's you who doesn't comprehend the facts...
that it's a combo has not a whit of bearing... the oven cooks with
microwaves, the conventional radiant energy portion functions to
brown. When the radiant energy produced by the conventional portion
is blocked by over crowding the microwaves will overcook the food way
before it browns. With those combo ovens it's far more important not
to over crowd than with single function ovens.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 1:54 pm
From: Al
On Nov 6, 2:17 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Al wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 3:47 pm, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com)
> > wrote:
> >> Piling one dish upon another is going to alter the way the mocrowave
> >> heats both dishes! The waves are going through double densities. So
> >> whatever you think you are saving, you are probably spending in
> >> needing to heat longer. If you want to cover a dish withour the top
> >> "exploding" just don't civer it tightly; leave a little open space
> >> for the steam to escape.
> >> xxxxo
>
> > Please don't bother the OP with technical facts about how microwaves
> > work. HE/she would rather experiment with putting wood and other
> > objects into a device designed to cook food in certain reasonable
> > portions. I hope it works out for the OP. I would add in passing that
> > some of the off-gassing from putting objects not designed for
> > microwave cooking into such ovens can cause health problems, but what
> > the hell!
>
> And we won't bother you with facts like the one that the OP has a "microwave
> combination oven", not a microwave oven.
You're not bothering me. I read it the first time. Still doesn't mean
you can place any dam thing in it safely.
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TOPIC: In what way are you LEAST frugal?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/18003f4ff7c65165?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 12:03 pm
From: me@privacy.net
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>me@privacy.net wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
>>> and you cant ignore the health of your mind either.
>
>> what do you mean rod?
>
>That the best thing you can do for the health of your mind is to enjoy what you are doing work wise.
>
So did you SIT a lot in your career as computer
programmer, Rod?
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 6 2009 3:57 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
me@privacy.net wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> me@privacy.net wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> and you cant ignore the health of your mind either.
>>> what do you mean rod?
>> That the best thing you can do for the health of
>> your mind is to enjoy what you are doing work wise.
> So did you SIT a lot in your career as computer programmer, Rod?
Yep. Tho I also did other stuff like physically building my own house as well.
I do deliberately get daily exercise as well tho when the weather is decent.
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