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TOPIC: Thrift stores - rising prices?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 4:28 pm
From: Vic Smith
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:33:40 -0800 (PST), Lenona <lenona321@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Recently, I heard a newscaster quote an anonymous female shopper as
>complaining that she'd been shopping in thrift stores all her life,
>but the prices were suddenly going up, apparently, because more and
>more people are using them these days.
>
>Has anyone seen evidence of that?
>
>Lenona.
My wife almost lives at thrift stores. She says prices are up, but
the patronage is down, if anything.
That's just a snapshot around here.
Maybe prices are higher because of less business?
--Vic
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 5:52 pm
From: "Bob F"
Les Cargill wrote:
> Lenona wrote:
>> Recently, I heard a newscaster quote an anonymous female shopper as
>> complaining that she'd been shopping in thrift stores all her life,
>> but the prices were suddenly going up, apparently, because more and
>> more people are using them these days.
>>
>> Has anyone seen evidence of that?
>>
>> Lenona.
>>
>
> I wonder if Craigslist has reduced the amount of stuff
> in thrift stores?
And freecycle. And "free" piles in front yards.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 7:00 pm
From: Michael Black
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Lenona wrote:
> Recently, I heard a newscaster quote an anonymous female shopper as
> complaining that she'd been shopping in thrift stores all her life,
> but the prices were suddenly going up, apparently, because more and
> more people are using them these days.
>
> Has anyone seen evidence of that?
>
In the old days, such stores were either intended or perceived
as being for the poor, and the prices reflected that.
The "clients" have probably shifted to people with more money,
and so yes, they raise the prices. The more they can take in,
the more they have for whatever projects are funded by the store.
So long as their customers were poor, then they'd keep the prizes
low, but once that changed, they realized they could raise
prices and thus increase revenue, to match increases in expenses.
The food banks here are saying that demand is up, yet donations
are down, so any fundraising is likely to try to bring in more
money.
They may have things fixed so someone without money can get
things for free or low cost.
Another issue may be that too many people are going into such
stores, buying cheap and then turning around and selling it
elsewhere for a profit. I know it's been talked about, and I
know I saw four people with barcode readers at the largest
used book sale here in October, just rifling through the books
and pulling the things they can make lots of money on. They
don't even need to know what the book is or anything about
its value. So if that is happening, it's not much of a surprise
that the groups are raising prices, why not make more profit
when others are making more profit off the sale?
I do get the impression (and it's subjective) that many of
the used book sales here are trying to be selective in what
they take, I definitely noticed it with some community group
rummage sales. They find it's too much work otherwise, they
have to deal with all the donations in the first place, and
then often have to deal with it after the sale. People donate
broken things, and they donate obscure items, and in both
cases it requires someone with the right interest to come
by and want it. So they get selective and then feel they
can raise prices, since they have done some of the work
of the resellers. If find this a not so great situation,
despite a first hand experience with all that gets left
over, because it is the odd and obscure items that make
me want to go to used book and rummage sales, and while
I do buy bestsellers at used book sales, the majority of
books I bring home are more obscure, and I'm finding I
am bringing home less (presumably because the book
sales are getting selective).
Michael
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 7:48 pm
From: "h"
"Michael Black" <et472@ncf.ca> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0912032151120.601@darkstar.example.net...
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Lenona wrote:
>
>> Recently, I heard a newscaster quote an anonymous female shopper as
>> complaining that she'd been shopping in thrift stores all her life,
>> but the prices were suddenly going up, apparently, because more and
>> more people are using them these days.
>>
>> Has anyone seen evidence of that?
>>
> In the old days, such stores were either intended or perceived
> as being for the poor, and the prices reflected that.
>
> The "clients" have probably shifted to people with more money,
> and so yes, they raise the prices. The more they can take in,
> the more they have for whatever projects are funded by the store.
>
> So long as their customers were poor, then they'd keep the prizes
> low, but once that changed, they realized they could raise
> prices and thus increase revenue, to match increases in expenses.
> The food banks here are saying that demand is up, yet donations
> are down, so any fundraising is likely to try to bring in more
> money.
>
> They may have things fixed so someone without money can get
> things for free or low cost.
>
> Another issue may be that too many people are going into such
> stores, buying cheap and then turning around and selling it
> elsewhere for a profit. I know it's been talked about, and I
> know I saw four people with barcode readers at the largest
> used book sale here in October, just rifling through the books
> and pulling the things they can make lots of money on. They
> don't even need to know what the book is or anything about
> its value. So if that is happening, it's not much of a surprise
> that the groups are raising prices, why not make more profit
> when others are making more profit off the sale?
>
> I do get the impression (and it's subjective) that many of
> the used book sales here are trying to be selective in what
> they take, I definitely noticed it with some community group
> rummage sales. They find it's too much work otherwise, they
> have to deal with all the donations in the first place, and
> then often have to deal with it after the sale. People donate
> broken things, and they donate obscure items, and in both
> cases it requires someone with the right interest to come
> by and want it. So they get selective and then feel they
> can raise prices, since they have done some of the work
> of the resellers. If find this a not so great situation,
> despite a first hand experience with all that gets left
> over, because it is the odd and obscure items that make
> me want to go to used book and rummage sales, and while
> I do buy bestsellers at used book sales, the majority of
> books I bring home are more obscure, and I'm finding I
> am bringing home less (presumably because the book
> sales are getting selective).
>
> Michael
>
Well...thrift stores, at least around here, have NEVER been targeted for the
truly needy. The needy are GIVEN the things they require for free. This
giving is funded by selling things in the store to the more affluent.
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TOPIC: Air bed leak
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 4:51 pm
From: Marsha
Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <hf70ih$u33$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>> My air bed mattress is leaking. Thought it was the box with the motor
>> assembly part, but tried a new one and it still leaks. So it must be
>> the air chamber itself. I know how to find the leak on the air chamber,
>> but what would I use to patch it?
>
> Is this a vinyl bladder type mattress? If so, a pool patch kit would
> probably work.
>
>
> Gary
>
Yes. Your suggestion sounds reasonable.
Marsha
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 4:54 pm
From: Marsha
Gordon wrote:
> Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote in news:hf70ih$u33$1@news.datemas.de:
>
>> My air bed mattress is leaking. Thought it was the box with the motor
>> assembly part, but tried a new one and it still leaks. So it must be
>> the air chamber itself. I know how to find the leak on the air chamber,
>> but what would I use to patch it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Marsha
>
> I sucsessfuly patched a pin hole leak in an air matress with scotch tape.
> Just be sure to burnish it down real good to get a good seal.
At first, the deflation was intermittent. Now it's constant and
relatively quick, so I'm assuming the "hole" is getting larger.
Marsha
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 7:21 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
In article <hf9mf5$c3q$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>Gary Heston wrote:
>> In article <hf70ih$u33$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@bex.net> wrote:
>>> My air bed mattress is leaking. Thought it was the box with the motor
>>> assembly part, but tried a new one and it still leaks. So it must be
>>> the air chamber itself. I know how to find the leak on the air chamber,
>>> but what would I use to patch it?
>> Is this a vinyl bladder type mattress? If so, a pool patch kit would
>> probably work.
>Yes. Your suggestion sounds reasonable.
Pool patch kits are useful for several things. I had a co-worker many
years ago who owned a 25 or 26 foot cabin cruiser. It cracked along the
base of the stern, where it joined the back of the hull. He applied a
pool patch on it at my suggestion, and stopped the leak until he could
get it repaired by the local boatyard. The repair guy got a good chuckle
when he saw it, but acknowledged that it did work.
Finding unconventional applications for things can be fun...
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
"Where large, expensive pieces of exotic woods are converted to valueless,
hard to dispose of sawdust, chips and scraps." Charlie B.s' definition of
woodworking.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 9:14 pm
From: "h"
"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:TZidnecUxt64HYXWnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
>
> Finding unconventional applications for things can be fun...
>
Oh yeah. The big box guys are used to me standing in various aisles and just
staring at things. They used to ask if they could help, but by now they all
know I'm just there trying to figure out how to solve the weird build
(theatrical/portable/floatable/flyable, etc.) assignment of the day. I
usually end up having to hit the real hardware store for a lot of the parts,
but the big box has so much of everything that simply staring at it for
awhile will usually spark a solution. Or at least a concept of how to begin!
I especially like to start in a "non-obvious" place for out of the box
thinking.
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TOPIC: The healthcare bill is so bad
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 5:30 am
From: "Dave C."
> > Then you will go to prison. I wish I'd made that up. But the
> > penalty for not being able to afford the mandatory insurance
> > coverage is stiff fines...and jail time.
>
> Another lie, just like it is with the current manditory insurance for
> cars.
>
>
It's not a lie. That's actually in the bill that the House passed. If
you can't afford the new mandatory health insurance, you will pay a
fine that you also can't afford. Or you will go to jail. -Dave
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 5:32 am
From: "Dave C."
> >
> > Then you will go to prison. I wish I'd made that up. But the
> > penalty for not being able to afford the mandatory insurance
> > coverage is stiff fines...and jail time.
>
> Paranoid much? The actual proposals read pretty much like the MA
> current laws, and under those (I don't live in MA) I would NOT have
> to buy insurance. Even those who fail to buy it and can "afford
> it" (according to the state) only pay a tax of less than $800 year.
> Jail time, are you insane? PLONK!
You're asking me if I'm insane? I didn't write the bill, and I didn't
vote on it. I'm just informing you about some of what's in it. And
what's in it is definitely insane. But it does you no good to call me
insane for pointing out that the bill is insane. -Dave
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 5:35 am
From: "Dave C."
>
> Another lie. The US spends TWICE the percentage of GDP on health care
> that anywhere else in the entire world does, so universal medicare
> WOULD COST MUCH LESS THAN THE CURRENT INSURANCE SYSTEM DOES.
That must be that famous government efficiency at work, eh? -Dave
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TOPIC: guess I know where Rod will be tomorrow
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 7:30 pm
From: "sr"
"sr" <solos42@uninets.net> wrote in message
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> Looks like you have a lot on your plate, better get on it
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7nqv2gF3lv6itU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Completely irrelevant to the stupid lie you posted.
>>
>> sr wrote:
>>> CO2 makes plants Green, it is a good thing
>>> =======
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7nq999F3mshq7U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> sr wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> sr wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/news-melbourne-protest-tomorrow/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Climatescam+%28ClimateScam%29&utm_content=Twitter
>>>>
>>>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.
>>>>
>>>>>> I NEVER said that I agree with those fools,
>>>>>> JUST that that lie you posted was a lie.
>>>>
>>>>> What is the lie, Rod?
>>>>
>>>> Your original lie about RESIGNATIONS that never happened.
>>>>
>>>>> I only post mostly what others are now saying
>>>>
>>>> There's a massive hole in your 'logic' there, is it ONLY or MOSTLY ?
>>>>
>>>>> and than I add on:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that lie you originally posted was from some newspaper. It was
>>>> still a
>>>> lie and you were too stupid to check whether it was a lie before you
>>>> posted it.
>>>>
>>>>> I notice you make same statements on the alt.global-warming,
>>>>
>>>> Another lie.
>>>>
>>>>> just vague statements with no bases
>>>>
>>>> Another lie.
>>>>
>>>> AND I have said repeatedly that it would be completely pointless to
>>>> close down ALL of australia's coal and natural gas fuelled power
>>>> generation, essentially because china build more than that EVERY
>>>> COUPLE OF MONTHS. AND I have said repeatedy that if you believe that
>>>> CO2 levels are a
>>>> problem,
>>>> the only thing that makes any sense what so ever is to replace coal
>>>> fired power
>>>> generation with nukes, and to heat using electricity from nukes, and
>>>> stop wasting
>>>> natural gas on heating and to save it for use in vehicles and as a
>>>> feedstock for
>>>> the chemical industry and do something about massive crude oil
>>>> imports.
>>
>>
>
>
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TOPIC: Make Money From Home - How to Deal With Distractions
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 3 2009 10:57 pm
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