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* How Evil people are defined in my Bible - 3 messages, 1 author
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* NONVIOLENCE: Why Jesus is a fake - 8 messages, 3 authors
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* OT: "Friend Request" on forums? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Wars sending U.S. into ruin - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* solar water heating - 1 messages, 1 author
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* I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it -
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TOPIC: How Evil people are defined in my Bible
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0a3682b5a80a07f8?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 12:29 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
Well, I use many bibles, but my new one is a beautifully gilded
"Deluxe" edition called the "FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION," and it defines
evil people as,
"People who are not interested in food always seem rather dry and
unloving and don't have a real gusto for life." -Julia Child
You can tell right away that the Christians, who don't have a gusto
for life, but always talk about the "afterlife," whatever that means,
classify for such an unloving definition.
Then it follows that an Epicurean revolution --us-- is the perfect
solution for this Christian recipe for disaster. Hey, bon appetite!
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"Death does not concern us, because as long as we exist, death is not
here. And when it does come, we no longer exist." -Epicurus
http://webspawner.com/users/DONQUIJOTE85
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:19 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
Even my most mundane cuisine beats your most heavenly god...
Yes, let's assume some of the most mundane beer... Miller High Life
Light. Very cheap, and yet it tastes nice. Maybe not in the same
league as Heineken, but no bitter taste. The "Champagne of Beers,"
they call it. And then to go with some mouthwatering TOSTONES. It's a
delicacy from the tropic, fried green platains, eaten with salt, sea
salt of course.
I challenge anyone with a higher taste to compare any heavenly
experience to this.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:39 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 7, 7:16 pm, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Even my most mundane cuisine beats your most heavenly god...
>
> Yes, let's assume some of the most mundane beer... Miller High Life
> Light. Very cheap, and yet it tastes nice. Maybe not in the same
> league as Heineken, but no bitter taste. The "Champagne of Beers,"
> they call it. And then to go with some mouthwatering TOSTONES. It's a
> delicacy from the tropic, fried green platains, eaten with salt, sea
> salt of course.
>
> I challenge anyone with a higher taste to compare any heavenly
> experience to this.
OK, I don't claim higher exotic taste. My girlfriend just served me
homemade French fries and they are heavenly too. In London they have
those baked potatoes that are out of this world. Or maybe I was
hungry, which is half the trick.
The problem is in this jungle is difficult to go out of the cage and
burn the calories, in the metaphorical sense of course.
Here's an interesting view at the problem...
Source: Talking Point, BBC News
Having lived in the US last year, I can say most of the comments here
belittling this lawsuit stem from ignorance of life in the US. People
here in the UK are MUCH more aware of what is healthy. In the US "Big
Food" dominates the airwaves and the vast majority of people are
genuinely misinformed. Americans live off processed food regularly
now.
Having said that, I think the lawsuit is partially misguided because
bad
food is no more than half the problem of obesity that is now coming
to
the fore in the US. The other half is the lifestyle the country
imposes
on people. In the US you are literally FORCED to drive everywhere -
even
a 5 minute hop to a local supermarket. People live in a system where
they do everything sitting down. So it is not just that massive
amounts
of calories (with little nutrition) are readily and cheaply on offer,
but that burning any of it off in the normal course of a day is near
impossible.
James, UK
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TOPIC: NONVIOLENCE: Why Jesus is a fake
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 12:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
>> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i can
>> see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume your
>> knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from dragging
>> them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree with me:
> IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle, and I'm not.
> But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 1:17 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 7, 3:56 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>
> > e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
> >> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
> >> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i can
> >> see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume your
> >> knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from dragging
> >> them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
> > I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree with me:
> > IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
>
> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not? The little lion is
being changed for the big ones.
>
> > Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle, and I'm not.
> > But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
>
> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
See, you are obsessed with drugs... yet another stupid war.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 2:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
>>>> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i
>>>> can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume your
>>>> knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from dragging
>>>> them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
>>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree with me:
>>> IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
>> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
> Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
> The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
>>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
>>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> See, you are obsessed with drugs...
Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
> yet another stupid war.
Indeed.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 3:16 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey
On Feb 7, 5:30 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>
> >>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
> >>>> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i
> >>>> can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume your
> >>>> knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from dragging
> >>>> them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
> >>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree with me:
> >>> IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
> >> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
> > Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
>
> Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
>
> > The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
>
> There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
>
> And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
>
> >>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
> >>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
> >> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> > See, you are obsessed with drugs...
>
> Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
>
> > yet another stupid war.
>
> Indeed.
Well, at least you don't support another stupid war. But if you can't
even understand of the value of a basic metaphor, how can you even get
the point that war --all wars-- feed some hungry predators?
You wouldn't believe that fairy tale of Adam and Eve being tempted by
a serpent. Yes, the West believes that an evil snake doomed mankind to
suffering and indifference --perhaps even martyrdom. We are so
different from the Muslim world!?
Funny you.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 6:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TheTibetanMonkey wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote>
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>>>>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
>>>>>> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i
>>>>>> can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume
>>>>>> your knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from
>>>>>> dragging them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
>>>>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree
>>>>> with me: IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
>>>> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
>>> Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
>> Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
>>> The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
>> There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
>> And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
>>>>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
>>>>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
>>> See, you are obsessed with drugs...
>> Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
>>> yet another stupid war.
>> Indeed.
> Well, at least you don't support another stupid war.
Yeah, Afghanistan is never gunna fly.
> But if you can't even understand of the value of a basic metaphor, how can
> you even get the point that war --all wars-- feed some hungry predators?
Not all wars do, WW2 didnt.
> You wouldn't believe that fairy tale of Adam and Eve being tempted by a serpent.
Or that the goat fucker/child molester had some angel whisper in his ear either.
> Yes, the West believes that an evil snake doomed mankind
> to suffering and indifference --perhaps even martyrdom.
> We are so different from the Muslim world!?
Yeah, no 90 virgins for us, ours fuck around much too much for that.
> Funny you.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 6:26 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 7, 9:18 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TheTibetanMonkey wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote>
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> >>>>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i dont
> >>>>>> want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak? lol ... i
> >>>>>> can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle. i presume
> >>>>>> your knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too much from
> >>>>>> dragging them along concrete rather than the jungle floor? ;^-]
> >>>>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree
> >>>>> with me: IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
> >>>> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
> >>> Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
> >> Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
> >>> The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
> >> There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
> >> And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
> >>>>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
> >>>>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
> >>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> >>> See, you are obsessed with drugs...
> >> Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
> >>> yet another stupid war.
> >> Indeed.
> > Well, at least you don't support another stupid war.
>
> Yeah, Afghanistan is never gunna fly.
>
> > But if you can't even understand of the value of a basic metaphor, how can
> > you even get the point that war --all wars-- feed some hungry predators?
>
> Not all wars do, WW2 didnt.
OK, I agree with that. Self defense.
>
> > You wouldn't believe that fairy tale of Adam and Eve being tempted by a serpent.
>
> Or that the goat fucker/child molester had some angel whisper in his ear either.
>
> > Yes, the West believes that an evil snake doomed mankind
> > to suffering and indifference --perhaps even martyrdom.
> > We are so different from the Muslim world!?
>
> Yeah, no 90 virgins for us, ours fuck around much too much for that.
>
I see there's no saints among us. Maybe not even the Pope.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 10:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> TheTibetanMonkey wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>>>>>>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i
>>>>>>>> dont want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak?
>>>>>>>> lol ... i can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle.
>>>>>>>> i presume your knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too
>>>>>>>> much from dragging them along concrete rather than the jungle
>>>>>>>> floor? ;^-]
>>>>>>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree
>>>>>>> with me: IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
>>>>>> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
>>>>> Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
>>>> Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
>>>>> The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
>>>> There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
>>>> And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
>>>>>>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
>>>>>>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
>>>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
>>>>> See, you are obsessed with drugs...
>>>> Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
>>>>> yet another stupid war.
>>>> Indeed.
>>> Well, at least you don't support another stupid war.
>> Yeah, Afghanistan is never gunna fly.
>>> But if you can't even understand of the value of a basic metaphor, how can
>>> you even get the point that war --all wars-- feed some hungry predators?
>> Not all wars do, WW2 didnt.
> OK, I agree with that. Self defense.
>>> You wouldn't believe that fairy tale of Adam and Eve being tempted by a serpent.
>> Or that the goat fucker/child molester had some angel whisper in his ear either.
>>> Yes, the West believes that an evil snake doomed mankind
>>> to suffering and indifference --perhaps even martyrdom.
>>> We are so different from the Muslim world!?
>> Yeah, no 90 virgins for us, ours fuck around much too much for that.
> I see there's no saints among us. Maybe not even the Pope.
Certainly not even the pope. The current one used to run the
Inquisition and it will be fascinating to see how many were
child molesters, just like so many other roman catholic priests.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 11:14 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 8, 1:19 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> TheTibetanMonkey wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> >>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>> TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote
> >>>>>>> e_space <espace1...@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>> taken for granted by who? you call pacifists weak do you? i
> >>>>>>>> dont want to beat the crap out of you, therefore i am weak?
> >>>>>>>> lol ... i can see why you consider yourself to be in a jungle.
> >>>>>>>> i presume your knuckles have evolved enough not to hurt too
> >>>>>>>> much from dragging them along concrete rather than the jungle
> >>>>>>>> floor? ;^-]
> >>>>>>> I'm sure that all the Christians that supported the war agree
> >>>>>>> with me: IN THE JUNGLE YOU MUST STRIKE FIRST.
> >>>>>> There is no jungle in Iraq, stupid.
> >>>>> Still ruled by the Law of the Jungle, isn't it not?
> >>>> Nope, ruled by the law of some rather swathy goat fucker/child molester, actually.
> >>>>> The little lion is being changed for the big ones.
> >>>> There are no lions in Iraq, stupid.
> >>>> And lions dont live in jungles either, stupid.
> >>>>>>> Where we disagree is that they are happy with the jungle,
> >>>>>>> and I'm not. But of course, I'm the Wise Tibetan Monkey.
> >>>>>> Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.
> >>>>> See, you are obsessed with drugs...
> >>>> Nope, you drug crazed loons stand out like dogs balls, child.
> >>>>> yet another stupid war.
> >>>> Indeed.
> >>> Well, at least you don't support another stupid war.
> >> Yeah, Afghanistan is never gunna fly.
> >>> But if you can't even understand of the value of a basic metaphor, how can
> >>> you even get the point that war --all wars-- feed some hungry predators?
> >> Not all wars do, WW2 didnt.
> > OK, I agree with that. Self defense.
> >>> You wouldn't believe that fairy tale of Adam and Eve being tempted by a serpent.
> >> Or that the goat fucker/child molester had some angel whisper in his ear either.
> >>> Yes, the West believes that an evil snake doomed mankind
> >>> to suffering and indifference --perhaps even martyrdom.
> >>> We are so different from the Muslim world!?
> >> Yeah, no 90 virgins for us, ours fuck around much too much for that.
> > I see there's no saints among us. Maybe not even the Pope.
>
> Certainly not even the pope. The current one used to run the
> Inquisition and it will be fascinating to see how many were
> child molesters, just like so many other roman catholic priests.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Laws that keep sexual predators away from the general population
doesn't seem effective for Catholic priests.
It would be a good question whether they would be willing to give up
their manhood upon vow of priesthood. It should be a simple
operation. ;)
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TOPIC: OT: "Friend Request" on forums?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 1:24 pm
From: Coffee's For Closers
In article <7t857tFvduU1@mid.individual.net>,
billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com says...
> I think this is probably something everybody else knows but me and a dumb
> question (Hint: I am a bit older). Anyway...
>
> On web site discussion forums, every once and awhile I get a "Friend
> Request" from someone I have never talked with. (These forums have to do
> with finance, home improvement, technical advice, etc. Nothing to do with
> anything personal.)
>
> When I get a "Friend Request", I have the option of "allowing" that person
> to be my "friend" or not allowing this...
>
> Then if I select OK, it shows on that person's information page that I am
> their "friend".
>
> So what is this exactly?
>
> Am I supposed to write that person a thank you note for requesting this or
> something?
>
> Or just click ok (to be friends) and do nothing further?
>
> Why do people ask this? Are they more "cool" or something if they are
> associated with certain people?
Yes, some people may feel that they can gain pseudo-social status
by pseudo-friendship with certain other online posters.
Also, some people may feel that they can gain pseudo-social
status simply having a large number of pseudo-friends displayed
next to their name.
It is exactly the same way many people view in-person physical
friendship in real life.
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TOPIC: Wars sending U.S. into ruin
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 3:59 pm
From: striker714@mail.com
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:40:37 -0800 (PST), Möbius Pretzel
<mobius_bb_pretzel@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Wars sending U.S. into ruin
>
>U.S. President Barack Obama calls the $3.8-trillion US budget he just
>sent to Congress a major step in restoring America's economic health.
>
>In fact, it's another potent fix given to a sick patient deeply
>addicted to the dangerous drug — debt.
>
>More empires have fallen because of reckless finances than invasion.
>The latest example was the Soviet Union, which spent itself into ruin
>by buying tanks.
>
>http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/eric_margolis/2010/02/05/12758511-qmi.html
Good!! The faster this degenerate political state collapses the
better. Build anew. Bring it on!
striker
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 9:10 pm
From: VFW
In article <qrkum5t6q73k4i009a137evulgt4lidm00@4ax.com>,
striker714@mail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 15:40:37 -0800 (PST), Möbius Pretzel
> <mobius_bb_pretzel@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Wars sending U.S. into ruin
> >
> >U.S. President Barack Obama calls the $3.8-trillion US budget he just
> >sent to Congress a major step in restoring America's economic health.
> >
> >In fact, it's another potent fix given to a sick patient deeply
> >addicted to the dangerous drug — debt.
> >
> >More empires have fallen because of reckless finances than invasion.
> >The latest example was the Soviet Union, which spent itself into ruin
> >by buying tanks.
> >
> >http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/eric_margolis/2010/02/05/1275851
> >1-qmi.html
>
> Good!! The faster this degenerate political state collapses the
> better. Build anew. Bring it on!
>
> striker
monday. a Buddhist celebration;
Nirvana
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !
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TOPIC: solar water heating
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:08 pm
From: "Lou"
"Gary Heston" <gheston@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
news:Z6WdnajJuImMkvLWnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@posted.hiwaay2...
> In article <83ksm5ld11vvf3rg91l99866oohc2rg57s@4ax.com>,
> Vic Smith <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote:
> [ ... ]
> >If I did the solar here, I'd put an insulated holding tank in the
> >basement to prefeed the water heater. Run the cold water to the yard
> >to flow though some kind of ray absorbing piping laid out in the sun,
> >then back to the holding tank.
> [ ... ]
>
> Put the holding tank in your attic, over a tray to catch
> condensation. It'll absorb heat in the summer from solar
> gain, and in the winter any heat escaping into the attic
> will help warm it--although not much, it'd be better than
> nothing.
>
Around here, people insulate the floor of the attic, not the ceiling - the
attic volume is open to the winter air via vents. I wouldn't put a tank of
water that might freeze above my living space. Or anywhere else, if I
wanted the water to stay in the tank.
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TOPIC: I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with
it
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:07 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"jeff" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> What would the Middle East have cost us if we hadn't invaded Iraq?
>
>
> In a lot better shape. Iran wouldn't be the huge problem it is in now,
> because Iraq would have kept it in check. And we would have finished
> Afghanistan.
Bush will go down in history as the president who took on the Islamic
terrorists while the rest of the world stood by and did nothing. To his
credit, Obama seems to be doing the right thing in Afghanistan.
[...]
> It [the debt] is unsustainable and
>> highly dangerous. The only way out will be hyperinflation, the gravest
>> sort of tax on the middle class and the working poor.
>
> No sign of hyperinflation. Plenty of signs of fear and rabid behaviour
> on the right. The debt will have to be handled, but the right has no plans
> other than tax cuts and more spending off books. But first the economy.
> You always spend your way out of a recession, that is if you want to get
> out. Historically money is put back during good times. W drained the pot.
This business of spending your way out of a recession may be seriously
flawed. However, time will tell and any chickens out there will soon come
home to roost. The debt is very worrisome.
Bush was a big spender and he never vetoed anything. He was not a true
conservative by any means.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:11 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"tmclone" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 6, 9:52 am, jeff <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> Every time I tread a post from you guys on the right fringe, I think:
> "Do these guys have anything but fear and hatred?". It appears not.
>
> Jeff
>> Why do you waste your breath on these guys? It's not as if
rightwingnuts are capable of actual thought. They can only parrot what
they hear on faux news. It's sad, but hopeless. Move on.
What a laugh! Bill Sornson constantly posts links which refute every liberal
myth as to what constitutes the facts. But there are none so blind as those
who will not see, i.e., liberals.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 7 2010 4:40 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"jeff" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "jeff" <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:hkl1la$883$1@news.albasani.net...
>>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>>> You have got everything backwards. It is Obama who will be tired for
>>>> treason. After all, he is destroying America as we have known it for
>>>> several hundred years.
>>> Er, did you miss that the financial system was in collapse?
>>
>> Something that everyone in the country contributed to, most especially
>> the liberal Dems in Congress.
>
> Who gutted the regulatory departments? It was W.
It was both Repubs and Dems who wanted everyone to own their own houses.
Bush tried to reign it in, but Congress wanted everyone to have a mortgage,
whether you could afford it or not. Barney Frank, a liberal Dem, was one of
the main villains in all of this.
> And Democrats come in all flavors. Republicans only come in one flavor
> and all vote in lock step. Who is behind your curtain?
Repubs have better party discipline than do the Dems.
[...]
> Your side cares not a whit about controlling debt, all they care about is
> taxes. Why then did the non partisan commission to make recommendations
> get no support from Republicans?
The Repubs do blather on about taxes way too much I must admit. But we have
got to get some control over spending. That is the problem, not taxes.
[...]
> As someone put it, The Tea Party is like a dog chasing a car. If they ever
> caught it they wouldn't know what to do with it.
The Tea Party movement is a sign of hope. They want smaller government and
less spending. If you are on the frugal living group, you should be for it.
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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