Thursday, March 4, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 18 new messages in 8 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* AAA question - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b5c2145bd5879a2b?hl=en
* THE JUNGLE: If we need a metaphor to live by, this is it! - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/98c48a831a826b0a?hl=en
* dangit! forgot to mail in a $15 rebate!@#%*! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fd562028049385a5?hl=en
* Dumb T Mobile prepaid question - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c0e5478775d0861f?hl=en
* 1 Chicken, 17 Healthy Meals, $26 Bucks, No Mayo - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e58b86ddbcc9e172?hl=en
* More bad press on herb/vitamin supplier Puritan's Pride/NBTY,Inc. - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d88e1f284965330e?hl=en
* Silver Certificates , what are they "worth" - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fbb23ab177fa4f94?hl=en
* Join the"Global Information Network"& learn how to make $100K in 90 days! -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/68b93063477889fc?hl=en

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TOPIC: AAA question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b5c2145bd5879a2b?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 3:32 pm
From: Al


On Mar 3, 9:17 am, barbie gee <boo...@nosespam.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010, VFW wrote:
> > I was thinking of getting a car towed but why not join AAA and get the
> > tow partially paid for/ But the question is, do they insist on a period
> > of time before you may take advantage of that service?
>
> Call your insurance guy and see if your auto insurance will cover towing.
> Many companies do, and they don't hold it against your policy driving
> record.

Turns out it's a 40 year old VW van and he doesn't even own it. He's
just lining up his ducks in case he does buy it.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 7:07 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <georgeswk-BE8660.21573302032010@news.toast.net>,
VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:

> I was thinking of getting a car towed but why not join AAA and get the
> tow partially paid for/ But the question is, do they insist on a period
> of time before you may take advantage of that service?

I am sure you can get an answer to your question simply by calling AAA
or perhaps by checking their web site.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 8:17 pm
From: "Clincher"

"VFW" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
news:georgeswk-BE8660.21573302032010@news.toast.net...
>I was thinking of getting a car towed but why not join AAA and get the
> tow partially paid for/ But the question is, do they insist on a period
> of time before you may take advantage of that service?

For the same reason you can't buy insurance for a burning building.

Like any insurance scheme, AAA is "buying" a lottery ticket from you. If AAA
"wins" (you don't need any tows), it makes money. If AAA "loses" (you do
need a tow) it loses money.

You are trying to "sell" them a lottery ticket that has already lost. AAA's
rule is to prevent people from doing exactly what you are trying to do.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 8:21 pm
From: "Clincher"

"Clincher" <xx@xx.xx> wrote in message news:...
>
> "VFW" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
> news:georgeswk-BE8660.21573302032010@news.toast.net...
>>I was thinking of getting a car towed but why not join AAA and get the
>> tow partially paid for/ But the question is, do they insist on a period
>> of time before you may take advantage of that service?
>
> For the same reason you can't buy insurance for a burning building.

Damn. Somehow my mind slipped in a "Why" before "do they insist" in the OP's
question. Never mind, then.

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TOPIC: THE JUNGLE: If we need a metaphor to live by, this is it!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/98c48a831a826b0a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 3:48 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey


On Mar 3, 3:16 pm, tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE

> >http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote

> Why do people always insist that we are above the animals - eg.
> "civilized". We are animals. We belong to mother nature (or the
> evolutionary tree if you prefer, or God for that matter, whichever
> philosophy tickles your nuts) just as much as any other animal. Just
> because we use tools and have developed language and some technology
> doesn't negate the fact that we are part of the natural world. We do
> what we do because we are what we are. That is how we are built.

> We look at exploiting our surroundings just like every other living
> creature does. No different, no better, no worse. There is no morality
> involved. A lion kills to eat. We kill to eat. Elephants will destroy
> trees for miles around to get enough to eat. Some animals will play
> with their prey when they become satiated. There is no morality
> involved. That is how the world is.- Hide quoted text -

> - Show quoted text -

Elephants and SUVs can be a very real threat to their environment...

But if you try to play it safe on our roads, you better drive
something big, right? Instead of our roads being smart, they are
Darwinistic, thus crating an arms race.

It seems like our roads can benefit from my metaphor. ;)

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TOPIC: dangit! forgot to mail in a $15 rebate!@#%*!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fd562028049385a5?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 4:03 pm
From: "The Henchman"


"Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:Xizjn.215994$OX4.201306@newsfe25.iad...
> Man, I'm kicking myself. For the first time in about 5 years, I put off
> sending in a rebate, and the allowed time expired - yesterday!
>
> It was a $15 ECS rebate from a newegg.com purchase. Rebate form said
> the rebate had to be postmarked within 18 days of purchase, and that 18
> days was up yesterday.
>
> I sat down to fill everything out this afternoon, and realized there was
> no point to it.
>
> All I can offer as an excuse is that our new house is getting fixed up,
> and I've been spending a lot of time going up there to look over the work,
> and also to do a number of projects myself.
>
> Still, I'm annoyed at myself. Usually I do these rebates right away
> when they come.

Send it it anyways. Maybe somebody will honour it. Phone it in perhaps?
Email newegg. What's the worst that'll happen. You won't get the expired
rebate...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 6:27 pm
From: larry


The Henchman wrote:
>
>
> "Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> news:Xizjn.215994$OX4.201306@newsfe25.iad...
>> Man, I'm kicking myself. For the first time in about 5 years, I put
>> off sending in a rebate, and the allowed time expired - yesterday!
>>
>> It was a $15 ECS rebate from a newegg.com purchase. Rebate form
>> said the rebate had to be postmarked within 18 days of purchase, and
>> that 18 days was up yesterday.
>>
>> I sat down to fill everything out this afternoon, and realized there
>> was no point to it.
>>
>> All I can offer as an excuse is that our new house is getting fixed
>> up, and I've been spending a lot of time going up there to look over
>> the work, and also to do a number of projects myself.
>>
>> Still, I'm annoyed at myself. Usually I do these rebates right away
>> when they come.
>
> Send it it anyways. Maybe somebody will honour it. Phone it in
> perhaps? Email newegg. What's the worst that'll happen. You won't get
> the expired rebate...

Don't try that with a check you received and didn't cash
before the expiration. They use separate accounts per dated
rebate, and close the account. You not only lost your
rebate, but get dinged for a $10 returned deposit item fee.

I don't bother with electronics rebates anymore. If it's
rebated, it's had problems and returned for issues. In a
few months, it'll be on deep sale, or a blow out anyway.

A consumer good from a respected company is another story,
the best provide discount coupons or at least would never
risk loosing a loyal customer by playing a rebate game.

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TOPIC: Dumb T Mobile prepaid question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c0e5478775d0861f?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 4:52 pm
From: me@privacy.net


I currently use T Mobile pay as you go prepaid and am a
gold member

I "assumed" that once I was a Gold member ANY
denomination of refills would yield 1 cents/minute
rate.

Now.... I am thinking I misunderstood that and ONLY
$100 refill cards yield 10 cent/min rate.

Yes or no?


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 5:29 pm
From: SMS


me@privacy.net wrote:
> I currently use T Mobile pay as you go prepaid and am a
> gold member
>
> I "assumed" that once I was a Gold member ANY
> denomination of refills would yield 1 cents/minute
> rate.
>
> Now.... I am thinking I misunderstood that and ONLY
> $100 refill cards yield 10 cent/min rate.

Yes, you misunderstood. What "Gold" buys you is that even the lowest
cost refill is good for a full year.


== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 5:35 pm
From: me@privacy.net


SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>Yes, you misunderstood. What "Gold" buys you is that even the lowest
>cost refill is good for a full year.

Crap!

So I must buy $100 refill cards to get lowest rate of
10 cents/min?

<sigh> I thought so but please confirm again


== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 7:01 pm
From: larry


me@privacy.net wrote:
> I currently use T Mobile pay as you go prepaid and am a
> gold member
>
> I "assumed" that once I was a Gold member ANY
> denomination of refills would yield 1 cents/minute
> rate.
>
> Now.... I am thinking I misunderstood that and ONLY
> $100 refill cards yield 10 cent/min rate.
>
> Yes or no?

no, i'm gold (second time) and currently at 12.4 cents a
minute, and it gets worse with each $10 card I add each year ;-)

First mistake was starting with a $30 card. Second time
around, mistake was not using the two $50 cards at the same
time. No matter what lies the reps will tell you, you will
loose gold and even your remaining balance if you make
changes to your account. (especially involving porting)

My next wireless might be some form of wi-max :-)

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 7:05 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <521uo59mrckucklja2lp5h88ghqop7jkup@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
wrote:

> I currently use T Mobile pay as you go prepaid and am a
> gold member
>
> I "assumed" that once I was a Gold member ANY
> denomination of refills would yield 1 cents/minute
> rate.
>
> Now.... I am thinking I misunderstood that and ONLY
> $100 refill cards yield 10 cent/min rate.
>
> Yes or no?

Is there some reason you didn't check the tmobile web site? As per
http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm10108.xml?related=y&Referring%20Related
%20DocID%20List%20Index=2&navtypeid=6&pagetypeid=7&prevPageIndex=5


"Once you have added $100.00 in refills to your account, you
automatically become a Gold Rewards customer. This means, for as long as
you remain an active T-Mobile Prepaid customer, you will receive up to
15% more minutes with every refill."


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 10:00 pm
From: SMS


me@privacy.net wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, you misunderstood. What "Gold" buys you is that even the lowest
>> cost refill is good for a full year.
>
> Crap!
>
> So I must buy $100 refill cards to get lowest rate of
> 10 cents/min?
>
> <sigh> I thought so but please confirm again

This is true. You must buy the $100 card. Or cut your losses now, and
switch to PagePlus, a Verizon MVNO where the _most_ expensive minutes
are 10 cents, and minutes go as low as 4 cents. Much better coverage
too. But a yearly minimum of $30 ($10 every 120 days), rather than the
T-Mobile minimum of $10 a year (for "Gold").

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TOPIC: 1 Chicken, 17 Healthy Meals, $26 Bucks, No Mayo
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e58b86ddbcc9e172?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 5:18 pm
From: "h"

"Pedro Marques" <pedroxadai@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f6c2f96-9bbf-4a9a-a02f-0a47ab405cd0@u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>Here's the thing: sometimes, those dinners aren't the healthiest meals
>in the world. There tend to be a lot of quesadillas and casseroles
>whenever these type of posts pop up, not to mention chicken salads
>drenched with full-fat mayo. Now, there's nothing wrong with this
>whatsoever (except the mayo - blech), but I wanted to see if I could
>put a healthier spin on it.

Huh? FAT isn't the problem, SUGAR is. Carbs are bad, fat is good. Grains
bad, fat good. Why is this so hard to grasp?

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TOPIC: More bad press on herb/vitamin supplier Puritan's Pride/NBTY,Inc.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d88e1f284965330e?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 7:01 pm
From: Shawn Hirn


In article <4a394d8207f7e524409b0b3eb6c0c63d@dizum.com>,
Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

> In addition to this:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers/browse_thread/thread/bad95c4c989
> e15f6#
>
> we read...
>
> More negative reviews for Puritan's Pride aka NBTY, Inc. Scott Rudolf,
> CEO Shows some of the shady tactics of this company. Would you trust
> this company to put stuff into your body?
> Quoted from a consumer web page:

How strange. I have been a customer of Puritan's Pride for several years
without any problems at all, as have some friend of mine. I have bad
knees and their glucosamine with MSN and condroitin works wonders to
keep my knees pain free.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 8:02 pm
From: Balvenieman

Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

>I have been a customer of Puritan's Pride for several years
>without any problems at all, as have some friend of mine.
Some among my family have, too. However, about four years ago when
my first purchase arrived, each package clearly had been tampered with
and the "get one free" items of buy one fame was missing! True story.
--
the Balvenieman
Running on single malt

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TOPIC: Silver Certificates , what are they "worth"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fbb23ab177fa4f94?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 3 2010 9:47 pm
From: VFW


Someone tried to sell me a dollar "Silver Certificate" insisting they
are worth more than a dollar. You can no longer trade them for silver.
what would one be worth. What, they were last printed in 1934?
--
Money; What a Concept !

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TOPIC: Join the"Global Information Network"& learn how to make $100K in 90
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== 1 of 1 ==
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