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* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 3
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
* What are currently your best saving tips ? - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a23335cb8985c73c?hl=en
* America's ecological 9/11 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d165f49621b82752?hl=en
* Ancient role call - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/284e0af511f09282?hl=en
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TOPIC: These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
This the ultimate video for the revolution...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:54 pm
From: Kevan Smith
On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
Too bad that song is so lame.
Can the revolution have some better music, please?
Kevan
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 12:07 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <6fidnRyojPfOcpzRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Kevan Smith wrote:
>On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
>and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>
>
>Too bad that song is so lame.
>
>Can the revolution have some better music, please?
The video appeared to me to be a good one for "the cause", and I found
the music to be reasonably-fitting and "reasonably agreeable".
The last part I said about the music is where I mean that more exciting
music is enjoyed by a smaller percentage of the video's viewers. I have
my idea as to what is good "speedy hyper happy bicycle-messenger music" -
and that music genre even got a name! Namely, that's Hi-NRG.
Sadly, a fair percentage of people, especially in Western Hemisphere,
think that one is only supposed to enjoy Hi-NRG if being a gay man.
Should the music in that video have been Hi-NRG? Or even "rock-like"
Hi-NRG along lines of "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss or 4
significant songs by ZZTOP? And one of those ZZTOP songs even came out on
a 12 inch vinyl "single" that said "disco" in one area of its jacket?
Or better still, should the music have been something more obscure than
the usual Hi-NRG by deviating from the "usual Hi-NRG" by lacking of
romantic/sexual theme that most disco/Hi-NRG songs have? Maybe something
closer to Golden Earring's "Twilight Zone"? (a Hi-NRG-ish rock song that
I suspect to have had influence unto my favorite Hi-NRG song, and that one
is "in-more-original-form" almost as rock-like as "I Was Made For Loving
You" by Kiss.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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TOPIC: What are currently your best saving tips ?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a23335cb8985c73c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Smitty Two wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Smitty Two wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
>>>> Cite?
>>> http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
>>> Bottom left hand corner of page 20
>> and
>> http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html
> Thanks, that's surprising.
Yes, it surprises most when they hear about it.
> First reference is 10 years old,
But it that had changed, there would have been lots of howling about that change.
> and I didn't see a date on the second one, but that's not
> the picture commonly painted of American's cc habits.
Yes, but particularly in a group like msfl, its something most of us do.
Not always tho, I personally built my own house from scratch myself,
and chose to fund it entirely with borrowed money, basically because
I was earning a better rate on the money I had in the stock market
than I was paying for borrowed money in the very early 70s and
was interested to see if it could be done. So I started using a credit
card to buy the first of the materials, and then got a loan on the
partially built house for the next lot of materials etc and did it that
way. The land came from the govt in a no deposit land purchase
scheme. I never did pay off the land early, because the interest
rate charged was so derisory, and I could earn a lot better than
that on it in the stock market so continued to do that after the
house was finished.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
a real cheapskate wrote
> Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Smitty Two wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.
>>>>> Cite?
>>>> http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf
>>>> Bottom left hand corner of page 20
There was an even better one around, but its no longer on the web and
I was silly enough to not save it on my system while it was still available.
>>> and
>>> http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html
>> Thanks, that's surprising. First reference is 10 years old,
>> and I didn't see a date on the second one, but that's not
>> the picture commonly painted of American's cc habits.
> yeah and 13% of all US mortages are at least a month
> behind in payments, thats a all time historical high
Not surprising given that the unemployment rate is about 10% and
about 20% would like a full time job and dont currently have one.
Even if they are all behind, and not all of them are, that still leaves a majority doing fine repayment wise.
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TOPIC: America's ecological 9/11
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d165f49621b82752?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
a real cheapskate wrote
> brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote
>> brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote
>> I'm calling this America's ecological 9/11 ? ? 32 minutes ago ? ?
>> This disaster could end up being worse than Chernobyl and 9/11
>> combined. Unless they plug that leak within the next month it will
>> turn the Gulf of Mexico into a dead zone for the next 100 years.
>> I don't think Americans realize how devastating this disaster is.
>> The time has come to nationalize BP and to investigate the
>> leadership of the company and if they are guilty of negligence they
>> should be handed Madoff-like jail sentences.
>> Keep BP alive until every cent required to recify
>> the damage has been taken from it's hide.
> BP is the massey energy of oil.....
> BOTH companies had far higher than other
> accident and citation rates than other companies.
In the case of BP, thats mostly because they do more
exploration in the Gulf etc than other companys too.
> BP near 800 major deficency citations Exxon mobile ONE sunocy 8.
See above.
> BP like massey just paid the fines as a cost of doing business.
> EASY SOLUTION:)
> when any company gets higher than industry average fines / citations.
> Fines double then triple then quadruple.
> so comanies cant afford to be poor safety operators.
They also couldnt afford to dominate exploration either.
> The other issue BP is on the hook to pay all clean up costs.
> But what of the colateral damage all the fishermen, resturants
> bars amusement parks hotels that depend on tourism to survive.
Thats compensated by the massive cash flow thru the recovery and cleanup operations.
> None of these people did anything wrong but will
> lkely go out of business, unable to pay bills.
I bet that doesnt happen much except to those involved in the fishing industry.
And I bet that effect doesnt last long, just like it didnt with the Exxon Valdiz either.
> now the oil is collecting in the gulf, what happens when a hurricane
> comes along and spreads the oil around florida and up the east coast
Nothing much. Once the well is capped, and that will happen
sometime, once it gets onto the beaches, it doesnt move
from there without human intervention, even with a hurricane.
> I believe this leak will push our economy not just back into recession but depression.
Bet it doesnt. In fact all the resources in the cleanup operation could
well provide a lot more employment than the fishing industry did.
> imagine wiping out tourism and so much more in not only
> the gulf and florida but all the way up the east coast:(
That wont happen, just like it didnt with the Exxon Valdiz either.
And it cant spread all the way up the east coast either.
> BP isnt big enough to cover the colateral damage they will go bankrupt.
Depends on their insurance. It may well be one hell of a problem for the insurance industry.
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TOPIC: Ancient role call
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/284e0af511f09282?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 11:28 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 05/29/10 22:06, Derald wrote:
> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>
>>
>>Derald also forgot that if he expects an answer to email he sends, he
>>needs to provide a valid email address.
> ...sheesh! what a concept.... LOL
FWIW, gmail does a fine job of eliminating spam. Only a few (a couple a week,
maybe) ever get through.
Maybe Dennis (evil) got religion. I hear it's going around...
--
Cheers, Bev
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