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TOPIC: Can anyone recommend a bread machine that makes good whole wheat?
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jul 18 2010 9:11 pm
From: SMS


On 16/07/10 8:44 AM, bart.c wrote:
>
> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
> news:i1ojii$i4c$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>
>> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:i1oi7b$a03$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 07/15/2010 03:55 PM, freeisbest wrote:
>>
>> Don't eat wheat/grain because it's poison. That's my best recommendation.
>
> It must be a slow-acting one then, considering the number of people who
> eat bread their whole lives then die at an advanced age of natural causes.
>

As professor Tom Sanders, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's
College, London, states: "Unless you suffer from coeliac disease, a very
rare condition, cutting wheat out of your diet is extremely unwise."


== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:37 am
From: "h"

"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4c43d04d$0$22121$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> On 16/07/10 8:44 AM, bart.c wrote:
>>
>> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
>> news:i1ojii$i4c$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>
>>> "The Real Bev" <bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i1oi7b$a03$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On 07/15/2010 03:55 PM, freeisbest wrote:
>>>
>>> Don't eat wheat/grain because it's poison. That's my best
>>> recommendation.
>>
>> It must be a slow-acting one then, considering the number of people who
>> eat bread their whole lives then die at an advanced age of natural
>> causes.
>>
>
> As professor Tom Sanders, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's
> College, London, states: "Unless you suffer from coeliac disease, a very
> rare condition, cutting wheat out of your diet is extremely unwise."

Huh? Most people find wheat difficult to digest, it causes intestinal
problems, acne, and a host of auto-immune reactions.Grain is what food eats.
As my vet says, "A cat gets all the grain it needs from the stomach of a
mouse". People don't need it either.


== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:37 am
From: SMS


On 19/07/10 6:37 AM, h wrote:
> "SMS"<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4c43d04d$0$22121$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> On 16/07/10 8:44 AM, bart.c wrote:
>>>
>>> "h"<tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i1ojii$i4c$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i1oi7b$a03$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 07/15/2010 03:55 PM, freeisbest wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't eat wheat/grain because it's poison. That's my best
>>>> recommendation.
>>>
>>> It must be a slow-acting one then, considering the number of people who
>>> eat bread their whole lives then die at an advanced age of natural
>>> causes.
>>>
>>
>> As professor Tom Sanders, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's
>> College, London, states: "Unless you suffer from coeliac disease, a very
>> rare condition, cutting wheat out of your diet is extremely unwise."
>
> Huh? Most people find wheat difficult to digest, it causes intestinal
> problems, acne, and a host of auto-immune reactions.

Not true. You've been misled and conned by who knows who. You really
need to buckle down and do some research, and not listen to quacks.


== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 10:10 am
From: Cindy Hamilton


On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> > >> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > >> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>
> > > Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
> > > and I'm still alive.
>
> > You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>
> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
> eat wheat!

It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.

Cindy Hamilton


== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 12:02 pm
From: "h"

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> > >> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >>news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > >> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>
> > > Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
> > > and I'm still alive.
>
> > You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>
> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
> eat wheat!

>>It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.

But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after eating it?
All sluggish and bloated?


== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 1:10 pm
From: "Bob F"


h wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:dde5a42d-c097-4ae7-b030-14995e713db3@z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 18, 5:59 pm, tmclone <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 17, 9:53 am, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Jul 15, 9:41 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Lou" <lpog...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>>> news:i1o959$2hu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>>>> Give up bread. Grain, particularly wheat, is poison.
>>
>>>> Funny, I've been eating grain for more than 52 years,
>>>> and I'm still alive.
>>
>>> You only think that. That's one of the symptoms.
>>
>> Heh. At nearly 60, I still find it hard to fathom that people still
>> eat wheat!
>
>>> It's tasty. That pretty much speaks for itself.
>
> But does it really not make you feel lousy about 30 minutes after
> eating it? All sluggish and bloated?

No, it doesn't.


== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 1:12 pm
From: "Bob F"


SMS wrote:
> On 15/07/10 3:55 PM, freeisbest wrote:
>> I've owned two different bread machines, both from yard sales,
>> both in excellent condition when I got them (one was a surplus
>> wedding present and taken out of the box). I passed one along to a
>> friend next door and still occasionally use the other. They both
>> work, sorta, if you make only white bread, or if you don't mind
>> taking the w.w. dough out of the machine after the first rise and
>> baking the loaf in the oven.
>> Good bread is ridiculously expensive here in central NC.$5 and
>> $6 a loaf and I'm not going to pay that. Does anyone know if
>> there's a reasonably-priced machine that makes *good* 12-grain or
>> whole wheat bread from start to finish?
>> I really hope someone has information or suggestions for a
>> small- town gardener who would like tomato sandwiches make with our
>> own our tomatoes and homemade bread.
>> If I can't find a decent breadmaker, my nice crop of plum
>> tomatoes will have to be to vac-frozen soon. Thanks in advance, I
>> hope.
>
> Zojirushi.

A friend of mine worked for a manufacturer of baking mixes, and that was the
winner of their tests many years ago.


== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:03 pm
From: George


On 7/19/2010 9:37 AM, h wrote:
> "SMS"<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4c43d04d$0$22121$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> On 16/07/10 8:44 AM, bart.c wrote:
>>>
>>> "h"<tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i1ojii$i4c$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>
>>>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101+es@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i1oi7b$a03$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 07/15/2010 03:55 PM, freeisbest wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Don't eat wheat/grain because it's poison. That's my best
>>>> recommendation.
>>>
>>> It must be a slow-acting one then, considering the number of people who
>>> eat bread their whole lives then die at an advanced age of natural
>>> causes.
>>>
>>
>> As professor Tom Sanders, head of nutrition and dietetics at King's
>> College, London, states: "Unless you suffer from coeliac disease, a very
>> rare condition, cutting wheat out of your diet is extremely unwise."
>
> Huh? Most people find wheat difficult to digest, it causes intestinal
> problems, acne, and a host of auto-immune reactions.Grain is what food eats.
> As my vet says, "A cat gets all the grain it needs from the stomach of a
> mouse". People don't need it either.
>
>
You have fallen into the same hole that others have. Something works for
you so you illogically extrapolate that it must be good for everyone.

There is a local guy who is orgasmic about the "water cure". He had
issues that were cured by drinking so many glasses of water with sea
salt everyday. Are there a few people who maybe are dehydrated etc?
Sure, but now he takes out full page adds in the paper, goes on radio
shows and puts up billboards about how the "water cure" can cure
everything including cancer.


== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 4:48 pm
From: "h"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:i22lkb$hbd$1@news.eternal->>
> You have fallen into the same hole that others have. Something works for
> you so you illogically extrapolate that it must be good for everyone.
>
Well, since 95% of the people in my family AS WELL AS my husband's family
(no blood relationship to me) AS WELL AS over 60% of my friends have all
discovered that they feel much better when they don't eat any grain,
particularly wheat, I have to LOGICALLY extrapolate that MOST people would
feel better if they stopped eating wheat. All (100%) of my friends' kids
(different families) who were suffering from acne and taking all sorts of
toxic crap to combat it discovered that by simply not eating wheat their
skin cleared up. Nearly immediately, and without taking the drugs. When I
first started eating wheat (in my 20s) I developed asthma. Instead of
telling me to stop eating wheat, the "doctor" suggested that I take
steroids. Yeah, right, that was going to happen. I'm in my late 50s, haven't
seen a doctor for 25 years (except for stitches, once), am VERY healthy,
work out 6 hours a week, and take no medications of any kind other than the
occasional ibuprofen for menstrual cramps. It has been my personal,
.lifelong experience that most people feel better and are healthier if they
don't eat wheat. For many years people have asked me, "How do you stay/look
so young?" The real answer is I didn't have children, but I also tell them
to cut out wheat (all grain is better), and all processed sugars. Keep all
other carbs (veg/fruit/dairy) to 50-80 grams a day. All (100%) of the people
who have done so, have told me how much better they feel and how much
healthier they are (according to medical reports). Most of them lost a lot
of weight, as well. How is any of that "illogical"? Oh, and I was a ballet
teacher then a personal trainer for a very long time, so I've done my
homework. I'm sure you can't say the same.


== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:41 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In article <i22o86$uc3$1@speranza.aioe.org>, h wrote:
>
>"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:i22lkb$hbd$1@news.eternal->>
>> You have fallen into the same hole that others have. Something works for
>> you so you illogically extrapolate that it must be good for everyone.
>>
>Well, since 95% of the people in my family AS WELL AS my husband's family
>(no blood relationship to me) AS WELL AS over 60% of my friends have all
>discovered that they feel much better when they don't eat any grain,
>particularly wheat, I have to LOGICALLY extrapolate that MOST people would
>feel better if they stopped eating wheat. All (100%) of my friends' kids
>(different families) who were suffering from acne and taking all sorts of
>toxic crap to combat it discovered that by simply not eating wheat their
>skin cleared up. Nearly immediately, and without taking the drugs. When I
>first started eating wheat (in my 20s) I developed asthma. Instead of
>telling me to stop eating wheat, the "doctor" suggested that I take
>steroids. Yeah, right, that was going to happen. I'm in my late 50s, haven't
>seen a doctor for 25 years (except for stitches, once), am VERY healthy,
>work out 6 hours a week, and take no medications of any kind other than the
>occasional ibuprofen for menstrual cramps. It has been my personal,
>.lifelong experience that most people feel better and are healthier if they
>don't eat wheat. For many years people have asked me, "How do you stay/look
>so young?" The real answer is I didn't have children, but I also tell them
>to cut out wheat (all grain is better), and all processed sugars. Keep all
>other carbs (veg/fruit/dairy) to 50-80 grams a day. All (100%) of the people
>who have done so, have told me how much better they feel and how much
>healthier they are (according to medical reports). Most of them lost a lot
>of weight, as well. How is any of that "illogical"? Oh, and I was a ballet
>teacher then a personal trainer for a very long time, so I've done my
>homework. I'm sure you can't say the same.

So, how were you able to make the ridiculous claim on April 26 2008 in
article <48133cb9$0$9551$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> that most people will
gain weight, even if exercising, on a 1,000 calorie per day diet if the
diet is a high carb one?

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 7:54 pm
From: tmclone


On Jul 19, 10:41 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In article <i22o86$uc...@speranza.aioe.org>, h wrote:
>
> >"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:i22lkb$hbd$1@news.eternal->>
> >> You have fallen into the same hole that others have. Something works for
> >> you so you illogically extrapolate that it must be good for everyone.
>
> >Well, since 95% of the people in my family AS WELL AS my husband's family
> >(no blood relationship to me) AS WELL AS over 60% of my friends have all
> >discovered that they feel much better when they don't eat any grain,
> >particularly wheat, I have to LOGICALLY extrapolate that MOST people would
> >feel better if they stopped eating wheat. All (100%) of my friends' kids
> >(different families) who were suffering from acne and taking all sorts of
> >toxic crap to combat it discovered that by simply not eating wheat their
> >skin cleared up. Nearly immediately, and without taking the drugs. When I
> >first started eating wheat (in my 20s) I developed asthma. Instead of
> >telling me to stop eating wheat, the "doctor" suggested that I take
> >steroids. Yeah, right, that was going to happen. I'm in my late 50s, haven't
> >seen a doctor for 25 years (except for stitches, once), am VERY healthy,
> >work out 6 hours a week, and take no medications of any kind other than the
> >occasional ibuprofen for menstrual cramps. It has been my personal,
> >.lifelong experience that most people feel better and are healthier if they
> >don't eat wheat. For many years people have asked me, "How do you stay/look
> >so young?" The real answer is I didn't have children, but I also tell them
> >to cut out wheat (all grain is better), and all processed sugars. Keep all
> >other carbs (veg/fruit/dairy) to 50-80 grams a day. All (100%) of the people
> >who have done so, have told me how much better they feel and how much
> >healthier they are (according to medical reports). Most of them lost a lot
> >of weight, as well. How is any of that "illogical"? Oh, and I was a ballet
> >teacher then a personal trainer for a very long time, so I've done my
> >homework. I'm sure you can't say the same.
>
>   So, how were you able to make the ridiculous claim on April 26 2008 in
> article <48133cb9$0$9551$4c368...@roadrunner.com> that most people will
> gain weight, even if exercising, on a 1,000 calorie per day diet if the
> diet is a high carb one?
>
>  - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)- Hide quoted text -

Because they will. What a douche. Plonk! Again. How did you climb out
of the bozo bin?

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:15 pm
From: tmclone


On Jul 19, 10:41 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In article <i22o86$uc...@speranza.aioe.org>, h wrote:
>
> >"George" <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >news:i22lkb$hbd$1@news.eternal->>
> >> You have fallen into the same hole that others have. Something works for
> >> you so you illogically extrapolate that it must be good for everyone.
>
> >Well, since 95% of the people in my family AS WELL AS my husband's family
> >(no blood relationship to me) AS WELL AS over 60% of my friends have all
> >discovered that they feel much better when they don't eat any grain,
> >particularly wheat, I have to LOGICALLY extrapolate that MOST people would
> >feel better if they stopped eating wheat. All (100%) of my friends' kids
> >(different families) who were suffering from acne and taking all sorts of
> >toxic crap to combat it discovered that by simply not eating wheat their
> >skin cleared up. Nearly immediately, and without taking the drugs. When I
> >first started eating wheat (in my 20s) I developed asthma. Instead of
> >telling me to stop eating wheat, the "doctor" suggested that I take
> >steroids. Yeah, right, that was going to happen. I'm in my late 50s, haven't
> >seen a doctor for 25 years (except for stitches, once), am VERY healthy,
> >work out 6 hours a week, and take no medications of any kind other than the
> >occasional ibuprofen for menstrual cramps. It has been my personal,
> >.lifelong experience that most people feel better and are healthier if they
> >don't eat wheat. For many years people have asked me, "How do you stay/look
> >so young?" The real answer is I didn't have children, but I also tell them
> >to cut out wheat (all grain is better), and all processed sugars. Keep all
> >other carbs (veg/fruit/dairy) to 50-80 grams a day. All (100%) of the people
> >who have done so, have told me how much better they feel and how much
> >healthier they are (according to medical reports). Most of them lost a lot
> >of weight, as well. How is any of that "illogical"? Oh, and I was a ballet
> >teacher then a personal trainer for a very long time, so I've done my
> >homework. I'm sure you can't say the same.
>
>   So, how were you able to make the ridiculous claim on April 26 2008 in
> article <48133cb9$0$9551$4c368...@roadrunner.com> that most people will
> gain weight, even if exercising, on a 1,000 calorie per day diet if the
> diet is a high carb one?
>
>  - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ah yes, forgot you were only killfiled on outlook, so when I use
google. I have to deal with troll smeg. Yuck.Buh bye,

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Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 6:45 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"


You should consider a Plan B, which is identified at the very bottom
of this Manifesto...

On Jul 9, 11:42 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 1:44 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 9, 3:54 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 9, 9:57 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 11:17 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jul 9, 6:33 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > > > > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Jul 9, 9:22 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 9, 5:43 am, Warhol <mol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > It's 38 degrees outside~~~Why it's so hot??!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > This week t has been super hot here in Brussels and on the weekend up
> > > > > > > > to 39°C... may get even higher
>
> > > > > > > > The Sun will fry us all!!!
>
> > > > > > > > In Australia it went to 43 degrees (celcius) last summer, the winter
> > > > > > > > for us in the Western world.
> > > > > > > > That was about 5 degrees more than the usual highest.
>
> > > > > > > > So the bad news... Hot hot hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > It appearces~~that Belgium is similar to China~~~~ And i know
> > > > > > > > india~~~~Too hot!!!
>
> > > > > > > > How about USA?????It's hot?????
>
> > > > > > > Yes, but the sun isn't unusually active, at least not yet.
>
> > > > > > > Think about all the methane and other gaseous elements released by Big
> > > > > > > Energy, as well as BP's Corexit modified hydrocarbons. Most of
> > > > > > > Earth's hydrocarbons and their secondary or spent remains are what
> > > > > > > makes atmospheric pollution. Vast ocean dead-zones are not exactly
> > > > > > > helping either. The continuing thaw from the last ice-ace this planet
> > > > > > > w/moon is ever going to see is yet another contributing factor.
>
> > > > > > > Us humans could be as little as 10% responsible, although I favor 25%,
>
> > > > > > I favor 90%... But we have taken the wrong direction and have plunged
> > > > > > into SUVs at the time we should have taken up the bicycle.
>
> > > > > However, since when have we ever seen a Jew riding a bicycle?
>
> > > > I've seen one around here, with all the gear. Right on the road. He
> > > > must be on a crusade or suicidal mission of some sort.
>
> > > > > SUVs are only a minor fraction of what we've been doing wrong.
>
> > > > > ~ BG
>
> > > > But the most conspicuously wasteful and deadly to others on the road.
>
> > > > It's all predicted a century ago...
>
> > > > "In a society dominated by the fact of commercial competition, money
> > > > is necessarily the test of prowess, and wastefulness the sole
> > > > criterion of power." -Upton Sinclair, book 'The Jungle'
>
> > > > It's the perfect symbol... a symbol of capitalist greed and blindness.
>
> > > Yes, those SUV's and super-sized trucks with usually only one person
> > > that seem to never stop going places just for the fun/sport of it all,
> > > as such are good symbols of what America stands for.
>
> > > The average American either consumes and/or causes at least 100 fold
> > > more hydrocarbons to be consumed, vented, spilled or exploded than the
> > > average Muslim of Iraq or similar nations that we intend to own/
> > > dominate and exploit.
>
> > > ~ BG
>
> > America stands for everything BIG AND WASTEFUL.
>
> True and true, the bigger and more wasteful the better.
>
>
>
> > All nations must be OK with it and submit in order to avoid war.
>
> Or you can always publish a manifesto before flying big aircraft into
> tall buildings.

I will publish this manifesto before I get on my bike, riding on the
sidewalks, just like mice, trying to survive among the fat cats, who
rule the road...

An Alternative Inaugural Presidential Address
"Just as no individual is above the law within countries, no nation
can be above the law among countries. We believe that if we disregard
the law of nations we're left with the Law of the Jungle, where the
only constraint on violence is the power and ruthlessness of those who
would employ it. Rest assured, in that world, we won't be the only
ones to employ it." (more...http://www.commondreams.org/
views05/0120-21.htm
)

Well, if you believe our leaders are failing to do something brave and
bold like that above, perhaps because they are the puppets of the
VESTED INTERESTS, then it is people like you and me who have got to do
something. The reality of the jungle is that THOSE WHO CAN CHANGE THE
WORLD, WON'T; AND THOSE WHO WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD, CAN'T.

Please see 'Help Wanted: International Climate Change Mitigation Seeks
Leader'... "a familiar absence of leadership from those with the most
power to mitigate climate change"
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5369

***

That was a short Manifesto, right? The shorter the better. Just get on
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***

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 10:14 am
From: Cindy Hamilton


On Jul 16, 9:55 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 7:22 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 13, 10:22 pm,aesthete8<art...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Most r.c.'s seem to switch to WARM after the rice gets cooked.
>
> > > I need one which shuts off.
>
> > > Any suggestions?
>
> > Rice is pH-neutral and is among the more dangerous
> > foods to hold between 40 and 140 F.  You probably
> > won't find one that shuts off.
>
> > Why do you want this feature?
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> For safety reasons.
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 8:51 pm
From: "Janie"

"Cindy Hamilton" <angelicapaganelli@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f7851a8f-8617-4e41-ba67-6d9795d07ea4@u26g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 9:55 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 7:22 am, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 13, 10:22 pm,aesthete8<art...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Most r.c.'s seem to switch to WARM after the rice gets cooked.
>
> > > I need one which shuts off.
>
> > > Any suggestions?
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> > Rice is pH-neutral and is among the more dangerous
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> > won't find one that shuts off.
>
> > Why do you want this feature?
>
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> For safety reasons.
>
> I just don't want to forget to pull out the rice cooker plug before I
> leave the house or go to sleep.

Then just unplug it when the rice is done, put the rice in the
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If you can't attend to your rice cooker, you probably shouldn't
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If someone is actually looking for a rice cooker that automatically shuts
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>On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 00:01:21 -0500, Vic Smith
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>
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>
>Downhill it is then. Never going to get manufacturing back here. Ever.
>The Chinese and it's African empire will do all the manufacturing.
>They're not stupid.

Yeah, in Africa they will really work for food, not money.


>>Don't mind saying where I think we're headed.
>>Somebody going to sue me if I'm all wrong?
>>I predict the American way of life will reach a point approaching the
>>Mexican economy unless there's a sea change.
>
>We're already there. Look around. Even the Mexican illegal immigrants
>don't want to come here anymore.

Thankfully for that. Let them go back to Mexico and take thier babies
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>Actually I'm amazed there isn't more
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>majority of the population is too busy getting high and stoned on the
>drugs instead of mapping out drug turfs and trying to make money off
>sales (the "hoods" excepted).

Or getting and staying drunk. I hear AA has lost lots of members since
the recession hit the US. Party time till te lights go out!
>
>>This "service economy" garbage the free-traders have been spouting for
>>years has always been a load of crap.
>
>Dollar stores and grass cutters. That's what fuels our economy now.

Service what? They dont even pump gas for you anymore.

>>Violence is the likely result, since Americans' feeling of pride or
>>"exceptionlalism" or entitlement - take your pick - won't allow too
>>many millions of them to become peons.
>
>Nah. We're too lazy and bored for violence. No matter what happens
>American Idol is on. Bread and circuses. This happened to the Roman
>Empire too, but we're too lazy to learn from history, so we sit back
>and pretend we're exceptional.
>
>We're already peons. G-20 anyone?


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