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* Recipe - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Cycling Copenhagen through American eyes
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 4:41 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Frank Studt" <frank.studt@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:i4rh1c$kfj$1@news.albasani.net...
> Am 16.08.2010 16:36, schrieb Peter Cole:
[...]
> In Germany we have a saying "Angst ist ein schlechter Ratgeber" in
English "Fear is a bad counsellor". It refers to the high rate of
irrationality associated with fear. Bicycle Advocates should not make
this irrationality their on and demand facilitation.
Not sure if this is from Studt or Cole, but whoever it is from marks one as
an idiot. Fear is the best signpost of what is dangerous. It has nothing to
do with irrationality. It has to do with thousands of years of instinct.
Anyone who does not take heed of his fear is a fool.
But have not the Germans been reckless in the recent past? They should have
paid more attention to their fears instead of boldly dashing forward. If
they had, they might have avoided the destruction of their country by the
Americans and the Russians. Germany in 1945 was a mess. Without American
aid, they would have been slow to recover.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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TOPIC: This is one good reason I hate God
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 4:49 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:i4sblg$v9h$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i4s5pl$m5e$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 08/22/10 13:55, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>
>> > "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You may be interested in the LOLCat Bible, passed down to the
>> >> faithful
> by
>> >> the Great Ceiling Cat. http://www.lolcatbible.com/
>> >
>> > On the other hand, I may be uninterested. I never go to a link unless
>> > it
> is
>> > fully explained beforehand.
>>
>> I would have thought that 'LOLCat Bible' was sufficiently explicatory.
>> Had you been reading m.c.f-l for more than a few hours you would know
>> that I do not send people to virus-laden or pornographic sites.
>>
>> Would 'linkophobia' or 'siteophobia' be the more appropriate word?
>>
>> And speaking of phobias -- We have words like homophobia and
>> islamophobia, defined as fear of those concepts. -philia denotes love
>> of concepts. I've googled -- unsuccessfully -- for a while trying to
>> find a proper suffix to indicate indifference or distaste for concepts.
>> Any ideas?
>>
>
> -phobia and -philia come fom Greek roots. From another Greek root -
> "path" - meaning feeling or suffering, we get words like apathy, which
> among
> other things can be defined as indifference. We might take a clue from
> this
> word - the prefix "a" meaning "not" or "without". Maybe you're really
> looking for a prefix, not a suffix.
>
> There are words denoting specific types of indifference. Laodiceanism,
> for
> instance, is the quality of being indfferent in politics or religion.
> Pococurantism is indifference nor nonchance. Insouciance is lack of care
> or
> concern. But I've never heard of a general suffix that conveys the idea
> of
> indifference.
Many thanks Lou. I am reminded all over again why I always hated
linguistics. What a total waste of time to ever make a study of languages.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 5:01 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 08/22/10 15:09, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/22/10 13:55, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may be interested in the LOLCat Bible, passed down to the
>>>> faithful by the Great Ceiling Cat.
>>>> http://www.lolcatbible.com/
>>>
>>> On the other hand, I may be uninterested. I never go to a link
>>> unless it is fully explained beforehand.
>>
>> I would have thought that 'LOLCat Bible' was sufficiently
>> explicatory. Had you been reading m.c.f-l for more than a few hours
>> you would know that I do not send people to virus-laden or
>> pornographic sites.
>>
>> Would 'linkophobia' or 'siteophobia' be the more appropriate word?
>
> Always briefly explain what is to be found on any website you would
> like anyone to go to. That is not an unreasonable request.
It's the bible translated into the supposed language of semi-literate
cats. It's funnier than if it had been translated into Swedish Chef.
> I am now the guardian of RBS since the Great Mr. Vandeman has left us
> for greener pastures.
Huh? Do you mean dead or something less permanent? I used to read the
dirtbike group before it destroyed itself. I HOPE I voted against
moderation, but I can't remember. I was very young at the time :-) I
just read an announcement that rec.bicycles.off-road had apparently been
abandoned, but I don't think it ever even got established. Moderation
doesn't work very well.
>> And speaking of phobias -- We have words like homophobia and
>> islamophobia, defined as fear of those concepts. -philia denotes
>> love of concepts. I've googled -- unsuccessfully -- for a while
>> trying to find a proper suffix to indicate indifference or distaste
>> for concepts. Any ideas?
>
> Yes! Fuck ALL Muslims! I hate the whole god damn tribe of them. I
> have repeatedly advocated the atom bombing of the entire Middle East
> (save Israel of course), but no one ever listens to me.
That's not a suffix. It just seems wrong that the only words available
indicate fear or love. Isn't there anything else?
--
Cheers, Bev
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."
-- George Orwell
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 5:45 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:i4sdnv$t83$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 08/22/10 15:09, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> Always briefly explain what is to be found on any website you would
>> like anyone to go to. That is not an unreasonable request.
>
> It's the bible translated into the supposed language of semi-literate
> cats. It's funnier than if it had been translated into Swedish Chef.
So that is what you should have said to begin with and I would have gone to
your link. I do not have a phobia about links, but I have learned from
bitter experience on Usenet never to trust anyone when it comes to links.
>> I am now the guardian of RBS since the Great Mr. Vandeman has left us
>> for greener pastures.
>
> Huh? Do you mean dead or something less permanent?
No, he is on other media now. Usenet is for idiots and those who like to
poke fun at idiots like me.
I used to read the
> dirtbike group before it destroyed itself.
I think Mr. Vandeman pretty much destroyed the group (AMB) with his
monomania against mountain bikers. I am on his side of course, but not
nearly so strident.
I HOPE I voted against
> moderation, but I can't remember. I was very young at the time :-) I
> just read an announcement that rec.bicycles.off-road had apparently been
> abandoned, but I don't think it ever even got established. Moderation
> doesn't work very well.
Moderation does not work at all. All you will end up with is the most boring
posts imaginable, which no one will ever read. Unmoderated Usenet has its
flaws but at least occasionally something gets said that wakes up all the
sleepy heads.
Moderated groups will only work if they are composed of intellectual types.
Otherwise, it is doomed. Regular folks can never think of anything
interesting to say. However, on an unmoderated newsgroup, even the most
ignorant knows how to say 'fuck you'. I have to laugh because words can
never hurt me.
>>> And speaking of phobias -- We have words like homophobia and
>>> islamophobia, defined as fear of those concepts. -philia denotes
>>> love of concepts. I've googled -- unsuccessfully -- for a while
>>> trying to find a proper suffix to indicate indifference or distaste
>>> for concepts. Any ideas?
>>
>> Yes! Fuck ALL Muslims! I hate the whole god damn tribe of them. I
>> have repeatedly advocated the atom bombing of the entire Middle East
>> (save Israel of course), but no one ever listens to me.
>
> That's not a suffix. It just seems wrong that the only words available
> indicate fear or love. Isn't there anything else?
I am not much interested in the subtleties of language. But I am interested
in fucking the Muslims all the way to Hell and back! God damn their rotten
primitive souls!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Advertising is the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket."
> -- George Orwell
Orwell was a genius compared to the kind of idiots we have with us today.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 5:55 pm
From: "h"
"Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> There are words denoting specific types of indifference. Laodiceanism,
> for
> instance, is the quality of being indfferent in politics or religion.
> Pococurantism is indifference nor nonchance. Insouciance is lack of care
> or
> concern. But I've never heard of a general suffix that conveys the idea
> of
> indifference.
>
Really? What a putz. PLONK!
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 6:41 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 22, 7:35 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4791b4ec-b55c-4662-b2fc-c0f4998cf57c@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Aren't we kind of hunting for God to save him from a cat? Yes, in many
> > ways he's like a parrot, except he doesn't talk...
>
> > On Aug 22, 2:26 am, livvy <go...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 20, 5:21 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >> Movement of Tantra-Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the
>
> >> > "When God doesn't talk to you, get a parrot"
>
> >> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >> God's fine....more to the point....you have no regard for God, why
> >> talk about him? Just ignore...go away. Those who do believe will
> >> do so, you have no regard whatsoever....and yet you waste so much time
> >> yapping. Why would one do that? You hate any thought of
> >> "God".....why can't you accept that, and shut up? Who asked you?
>
> > The concept of God is dangerous one. Why hate the Christians when they
> > only act as idiotic as their faith?
>
> > Like I've said, God has wings and may be in danger of being eaten by a
> > cat.
>
> TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
> hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
> His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
> poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.
>
> He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
> zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
> with monkeys, but I can't prove it.
>
> TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
> like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
> village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
> longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.
>
> But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
> It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
> if the rest of you can't.
>
Never underestimate the power of creative thinking that produces
satire...
Animal Farm is George Orwell's satire on equality, where all barnyard
animals live free from their human masters' tyranny. Inspired to rebel
by Major, an old boar, animals on Mr. Jones' Manor Farm embrace
Animalism and stage a revolution to achieve an idealistic state of
justice and progress. A power-hungry pig, Napoleon, becomes a
totalitarian dictator who leads the Animal Farm into "All Animals Are
Equal / But Some Are More Equal Than Others" oppression.
Read more: http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/LitNote/Animal-Farm.id-12.html#ixzz0xOBML3pU
(Sorry you are below such level of appreciation)
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 6:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 22, 1:37 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/22/10 07:35, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> > TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
> > hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
> > His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
> > poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.
>
> You may be interested in the LOLCat Bible, passed down to the faithful
> by the Grea
A cat god would be a terrible fate for the mice. I refuse to admit the
predators have a god and prey don't.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 10:56 pm
From: Derald
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote:
>TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
>hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
What's worse is that the poor burnout doesn't even realize that, in
most US states, it's the taxes paid by motor vehicle drivers that
maintain the roadways to which burnout thinks it has some sort of
"right", although bicycle drivers don't pay those taxes. The attitude
seems to have become the American Way.
>
>He is insane of course. I liken him to the
>village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
>longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.
>
>But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
>It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
>if the rest of you can't.
...ssst: Does the expression, "It takes one to know one", ring a
bell? LOL. This poor crackpot can't hold a candle to "Soul Surgeon" or
"Full Metal Grotus" of better days.
BTW, I won't be reading your followups, Little Eddie. I have the
entirety of googlegroups twitted. Just picked up on this thread for its
entertainment value in the absence of the Sex Goddess. Thank Unlistening
God, She's just making a beerrun so I don't have to keep this up much
longer. Now, my man, *That* is answered prayer: Sex Goddess bearing
twelve-packs along with the makings of a thigh sandwich; yum, y'all.
--
Derald
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 11:16 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 08/22/10 17:45, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/22/10 15:09, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>>> Always briefly explain what is to be found on any website you would
>>> like anyone to go to. That is not an unreasonable request.
>>
>> It's the bible translated into the supposed language of semi-literate
>> cats. It's funnier than if it had been translated into Swedish Chef.
>
> So that is what you should have said to begin with and I would have gone to
> your link. I do not have a phobia about links, but I have learned from
> bitter experience on Usenet never to trust anyone when it comes to links.
>
>>> I am now the guardian of RBS since the Great Mr. Vandeman has left us
>>> for greener pastures.
>>
>> Huh? Do you mean dead or something less permanent?
>
> No, he is on other media now. Usenet is for idiots and those who like to
> poke fun at idiots like me.
No, it's for people who remember what it used to be and see no alternate
that's even half as good. Private mail lists can be even better,
perhaps, but they suffer from the lack of new blood.
>> I used to read the
>> dirtbike group before it destroyed itself.
>
> I think Mr. Vandeman pretty much destroyed the group (AMB) with his
> monomania against mountain bikers. I am on his side of course, but not
> nearly so strident.
Did you actually SEE that whipsnake? V*ndeman could have been ignored,
but NOOO they had to take the group moderated and it never got off the
ground.
>> I HOPE I voted against
>> moderation, but I can't remember. I was very young at the time :-) I
>> just read an announcement that rec.bicycles.off-road had apparently been
>> abandoned, but I don't think it ever even got established. Moderation
>> doesn't work very well.
>
> Moderation does not work at all. All you will end up with is the most boring
> posts imaginable, which no one will ever read. Unmoderated Usenet has its
> flaws but at least occasionally something gets said that wakes up all the
> sleepy heads.
>
> Moderated groups will only work if they are composed of intellectual types.
In which case no moderation is needed. OTOH, maybe not. Intellectual
types can be just as offensive or looney as normal people. Didn't
V*ndeman have a doctorate? OTOH, I've known some pretty damn dumb PhDs...
> Otherwise, it is doomed. Regular folks can never think of anything
> interesting to say. However, on an unmoderated newsgroup, even the most
> ignorant knows how to say 'fuck you'. I have to laugh because words can
> never hurt me.
>
>>>> And speaking of phobias -- We have words like homophobia and
>>>> islamophobia, defined as fear of those concepts. -philia denotes
>>>> love of concepts. I've googled -- unsuccessfully -- for a while
>>>> trying to find a proper suffix to indicate indifference or distaste
>>>> for concepts. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Yes! Fuck ALL Muslims! I hate the whole god damn tribe of them. I
>>> have repeatedly advocated the atom bombing of the entire Middle East
>>> (save Israel of course), but no one ever listens to me.
The neutron bomb might have been useful, right? I can think of a lot of
places such a bomb might be placed to good effect.
>> That's not a suffix. It just seems wrong that the only words available
>> indicate fear or love. Isn't there anything else?
>
> I am not much interested in the subtleties of language. But I am interested
> in fucking the Muslims all the way to Hell and back! God damn their rotten
> primitive souls!
They aren't all that much different from other religions. A pox on them
all.
Cheers, Bev
"Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do.
They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy,
they'd have indoor plumbing by now." -- Ann Coulter
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TOPIC: Recipe
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 5:32 pm
From: MAS
I don't bake much. As a matter of fact, the kitchen is foreign
territory. When an oatmeal cookie recipe calls for 2 cups of oatmeal,
does it mean quick cooking oats or regular oats? If it calls for
chocolate chips, do I use unsweetened or sweetened? Muchos gracias.
Marsha
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 6:55 pm
From: "Jean B."
MAS wrote:
> I don't bake much. As a matter of fact, the kitchen is foreign
> territory. When an oatmeal cookie recipe calls for 2 cups of oatmeal,
> does it mean quick cooking oats or regular oats? If it calls for
> chocolate chips, do I use unsweetened or sweetened? Muchos gracias.
>
> Marsha
Usually regular oats; sometimes old-fashioned. Chips are
sweetened--usually semisweet chocolate.
--
Jean B.
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TOPIC: Let's stop talking about God and let's talk about solutions
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 6:33 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
We all know he's responsible for this mess, or perhaps the Devil, but
you get the point: THIS IS A MESS.
How can we fix the world (or at least transportation) without God?
On Aug 21, 3:03 pm, Day Brown <dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 08/20/2010 08:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 12:49 am, Day Brown<dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 08/19/2010 10:58 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >>> We shouldn't be tempted to make sweeping statements such as the fast
> >>> train is the solution and bicycle is not. You don't travel from Miami
> >>> to Orlando everyday.
> >>> Most trips in America are done to the market and possibly under a
> >>> radius of 5 miles, or could be done if we drop Walmart in favor of the
> >>> local store.
> >> I find that a sweeping statement. You are not going to carry a week's
> >> worth of groceries and supplies home on a bike.
> > That's what I can carry with any of my bikes. But you always have an
> > excuse to ride more often to the market if not as well prepared.
> >>> The solution is a combination of the above, and take into
> >>> consideration that we could be riding faster bikes to cover our sprawl
> >>> instead of the heavy European bike.
> >> Americans are also a buncha fat slobs who wont ride a bike, much less do
> >> so if its raining. They will ride a golf cart or electric car to the
> >> corner store or local mall to bring home whatever, and would use it to
> >> commute if it also rode the train so they can drive off the train and go
> >> to work.
> > Yes, they have been bred that way by careful manipulation. That could
> > change though as they try riding a bike and shedding pounds.
> But they are not going try in the first place because of the
> manipulation. I'm not saying your ideas are not good, but that they cant
> be sold because of corporate profits - that pay for advertising - that
> in turn blind the eye of the media to real solutions.
They won't be sold, but they can either be put in place in other
nations or be fought for recognition right here.
Same, same situation with the stupid prohibition. It won't be America
leading the way, but it's bound to be abandoned by some nation who's
tough enough to do it.
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> >> It'd be much better for them to ride bikes more, but that's not upta us.
> >> I'm outlining a project the fat bastards would actually get behind. The
> >> vehicle carrier rail could get to the urban hub ten minutes or more
> >> sooner, and to the lazy bastards that makes all the diff.
> >> I've used my golfcart to haul firewood out of the woods; but properly
> >> equipped for urban streets, it'd easy go 4-5 miles and back on flat
> >> pavement at 25 mph.
> > Some of them are street legal here in Florida (Bombardier type), but
> > not advisable under conditions where the big fish eats the little
> > fish.
> I dont claim golf carts or even electric cars would be appropriate
> everywhere. And certainly, you may find enlightened communities promote
> bikes.
Bombardier is not exactly a golf cart...
http://personal.atl.bellsouth.net/t/r/troprent/ford.htm
They are FRIENDLY COMMUNITY VEHICLES not intimidating GATED COMMUNITY
SUV'S.
> I've noticed a trend of transnationals investing in towns of 10k to 50k
> rather than major metro areas. When a town is only 50,000, you can ride
> a bike from one end to the other; its only a couple miles. People have a
> lower cost of living, business has more profit.
> But for the major metro areas, the only kind of public transport that'll
> work needs to carry the electric vehicle, and if it does, the time and
> cost of the commute will be less, and therefore get funding.
What will work is breaking the MONOPOLY OF THE AUTOMOBILE, very
similar to the rule of the dinosaurs and encourage smarter ways of
life to emerge: EV (low and high performance), BICYCLES, SCOOTERS and
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
The vehicle above cost peanuts compared to the Volt. And LIVING WITH
PEANUTS is what the revolution is all about!
--------------------------------------------
REVOLUTION!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzCjGgrewYY&feature=search
SOLUTIONS...
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 7:30 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
Apparently, based upon my experience yesterday, using Lysol spray in
a fairly small (~10' x 10') room and leaving the door closed can
trigger carbon monoxide detectors.
I had one start alarming and another showing screwy readings (there is
no possible CO source in the house at the moment). As to what the longer
term effect on the detectors will be (some require sensor replacement
after too much exposure) I don't know.
The Lysol was used to treat a section of wall about 6' long and 2' high
on an exterior wall that the bed is generally touching or very close
to. It's also a north wall, so cooler than normal and this tends to
cause mildew to form.
Not sure what the interaction is, but I'm probably going to get a new
CO detector before this fall...
Gary
--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/
If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
go plant trees.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 22 2010 10:56 pm
From: Derald
gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>I had one start alarming and another showing screwy readings (there is
>no possible CO source in the house at the moment). As to what the longer
>term effect on the detectors will be (some require sensor replacement
>after too much exposure) I don't know.
Interesting. I'm (mildly) curious what specific components of Lysol
triggered the alarm. Not that it matters, but it does induce some
tripidation about Lysol-huffing. Do you know how one determines _when_
to replace a detector's sensor or the detector? IIRC the instructions
with mine indicate the sensor to have a finite but indeterminate life
span regardless of whether the unit is in service but I don't recall it
offering the slightest clue how to determine when to begin expecting the
unit to fail or how to determine whether it has. Maybe I should read the
instructions again?
>
>If you want to reduce the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere,
>go plant trees.
Aww... get real. Reforestation is far too reasonable. Surely, you
recognize that, after wife-beating, deforestation is Mankind's oldest
legacy (been going at it for 10,000 years and in the "new" world for a
few hundred -- just getting started good) and desertification our oldest
and, so far, longest-lasting artifact (think "Sumaria", "Mesopotamia",
or "North Africa"). It's a Human Family Tradition, ferchrissake!
Obviously, the greater adventure is to destroy the economies of the
developed nations so that we all can be "equal" so that we all may enjoy
the same back-to-Nature lifestyle as the talented and industrious
denizons of equatorial Africa (for example).
--
Buy me something,
Derald
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