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TOPIC: Do you agree with the Christians that we are living in the End Times?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 28 2010 10:47 pm
From: Doug
On 28 Aug, 17:43, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I do, but for entirely different reasons from the Bible. It's the
> Christians' own support for the most warmongering politicians, their
> denial of Climate Change as a conspiracy, and their dismissal of those
> who want to do the simple act to ride a bicycle not to be part of the
> problem, that places us right close to Midnight.
>
> Yep, the clock is ticking...
>
> "The Doomsday Clock is a symbolic clock face, maintained since 1947 by
> the board of directors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists at the
> University of Chicago. The closer the clock is to midnight, the closer
> the world is estimated to be to global disaster. As of January 14,
> 2010, the Doomsday Clock now stands at six minutes to midnight."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "It's a race against time"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
I never agree with Christians or any other religious cults. They have
far too much power and are a major cause of a great deal of strife and
destruction in our world.
-- .
UK Radical Campaigns.
http://www.zing.icom43.net
One man's democracy is another man's regime.
Doug.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 7:20 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 29, 12:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> On 8/29/2010 12:16 AM, Larry wrote:
>
> > Climate Change religion
>
> Fail.
See, now he won't make to the safe haven where us, the Free Spirits of
the Universe, reject mental masturbation --religion-- and accept
Climate Change as Good Science as well as Common Sense.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 8:43 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 29, 8:32 am, "5668 Dead, 811 since 1/20/09"
<dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:18:24 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 5:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Aug 28, 12:46 pm, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Aug 28, 1:14 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> > > On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> >> > > TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
> >> > > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > >I do, but for entirely different reasons from the Bible.
>
> >> > > No, because Jesus said that no man knows the day or the time.
>
> >> > Big deal. It also says that bats are birds and other lies.
>
> >> > PDW
>
> >> Everybody thought he would come back soon, and then they thought he
> >> would come in 1,000 AD, etc.
>
> >> I think he's coming behind a mushroom cloud...
>
> >>http://jesusiscoming.us/images/jesus-return.jpg
>
> >> Remember the mushroom cloud the Christians believed Hussein was working
> >> on?
>
> > If the Rapture takes all the christians, I'm for it. Imagine America
> > without fundamentalist christians...
>
> All we need is to have Newt, Glenn and Sarah tell fundies that Heaven is
> working on WMDs, and they'll attack, invade, and occupy the place.
That's why so much money goes into Star Wars, right?
I think the Rapture will end with the Big Shots taking a spaceship to
Mars. Then they will ponder on the value of having lied all along.
Isn't it wiser to live a simple life, ride a bicycle and lay a hammock
under a mango tree?
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 11:44 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:32d72df1-ce35-4de8-bc91-987f0c554b27@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 29, 8:32 am, "5668 Dead, 811 since 1/20/09"
> <dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:18:24 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:
>> > On Aug 28, 5:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
>> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Aug 28, 12:46 pm, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Aug 28, 1:14 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
>> >> > > TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
>> >> > > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > >I do, but for entirely different reasons from the Bible.
>>
>> >> > > No, because Jesus said that no man knows the day or the time.
>>
>> >> > Big deal. It also says that bats are birds and other lies.
>>
>> >> > PDW
>>
>> >> Everybody thought he would come back soon, and then they thought he
>> >> would come in 1,000 AD, etc.
>>
>> >> I think he's coming behind a mushroom cloud...
>>
>> >>http://jesusiscoming.us/images/jesus-return.jpg
>>
>> >> Remember the mushroom cloud the Christians believed Hussein was
>> >> working
>> >> on?
>>
>> > If the Rapture takes all the christians, I'm for it. Imagine America
>> > without fundamentalist christians...
>>
>> All we need is to have Newt, Glenn and Sarah tell fundies that Heaven is
>> working on WMDs, and they'll attack, invade, and occupy the place.
>
> That's why so much money goes into Star Wars, right?
>
> I think the Rapture will end with the Big Shots taking a spaceship to
> Mars. Then they will ponder on the value of having lied all along.
>
> Isn't it wiser to live a simple life, ride a bicycle and lay a hammock
> under a mango tree?
Stay on this thread and I will not bother you. Start a new thread on this
same subject, and I am going kick your dumb ass all the way to Hell and
back, you poor crazy bastard!
Fucking Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 12:53 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 29, 11:44 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:32d72df1-ce35-4de8-bc91-987f0c554b27@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 8:32 am, "5668 Dead, 811 since 1/20/09"
> > <dea...@deadduz.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 04:18:24 -0700, edspyhill01 wrote:
> >> > On Aug 28, 5:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> >> > Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Aug 28, 12:46 pm, "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Aug 28, 1:14 pm, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> >> >> > > TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
> >> >> > > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > >I do, but for entirely different reasons from the Bible.
>
> >> >> > > No, because Jesus said that no man knows the day or the time.
>
> >> >> > Big deal. It also says that bats are birds and other lies.
>
> >> >> > PDW
>
> >> >> Everybody thought he would come back soon, and then they thought he
> >> >> would come in 1,000 AD, etc.
>
> >> >> I think he's coming behind a mushroom cloud...
>
> >> >>http://jesusiscoming.us/images/jesus-return.jpg
>
> >> >> Remember the mushroom cloud the Christians believed Hussein was
> >> >> working
> >> >> on?
>
> >> > If the Rapture takes all the christians, I'm for it. Imagine America
> >> > without fundamentalist christians...
>
> >> All we need is to have Newt, Glenn and Sarah tell fundies that Heaven is
> >> working on WMDs, and they'll attack, invade, and occupy the place.
>
> > That's why so much money goes into Star Wars, right?
>
> > I think the Rapture will end with the Big Shots taking a spaceship to
> > Mars. Then they will ponder on the value of having lied all along.
>
> > Isn't it wiser to live a simple life, ride a bicycle and lay a hammock
> > under a mango tree?
>
> Stay on this thread and I will not bother you. Start a new thread on this
> same subject, and I am going kick your dumb ass all the way to Hell and
> back, you poor crazy bastard!
>
> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Now I want war with you. Did you know?
On Aug 29, 12:03 pm, "Daniel who wants to know" <m...@here.edu> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock &
> the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com>
> wrote in messagenews:f8a09cc5-82ab-4f0d-80dd-b3004ae91a48@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I do, but for entirely different reasons from the Bible. It's the
> > Christians' own support for the most warmongering politicians, their
> > denial of Climate Change as a conspiracy, and their dismissal of those
> > who want to do the simple act to ride a bicycle not to be part of the
> > problem, that places us right close to Midnight.
>
> Yep. I consider myself a Christian but I fear it is becoming a
> self-fufilling prophesy in that the fundies say "Well, the world is going to
> end soon anyway, might as well trash the place while we still can.
Still time to change your mind. ;)
Here's the word in the street...
On Aug 29, 9:55 am, "solar penguin" <solar.peng...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> Jim <pedigreeZ...@ZZZZoperamail.com[wake> wrote:
> > Pretty sure he didn't know about Oyster cards.
>
> If he did, what would he do to fix the OSI overcharging problem?
God wants the Christians to use their credit cards and buy SUVs. It's
all part of the Master Plan to create war and pollution in the world,
thus rushing the race to the End Times.
In reality though it is the Jews who have this conspiracy to take all
over the world, while the Chinese provide the goods under the guise of
Globalization.
That's the word in the street anyway. ;)
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 1:51 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 29, 1:34 pm, FatterDumber& Happier Moe
<"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
> > Isn't it wiser to live a simple life, ride a bicycle and lay a hammock
> > under a mango tree?
>
> Quit trying to justify your laziness, go get a job.
Buddha gave me this job to do, and I'm here.
This is like Newton's apple but instead a mango tree to wake up
humanity to reality. Get it?
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 2:10 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b445fa1d-ae27-4286-8c9e-fe4f922034a4@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 29, 11:44 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Stay on this thread and I will not bother you. Start a new thread on this
> same subject, and I am going kick your dumb ass all the way to Hell and
> back, you poor crazy bastard!
>> Now I want war with you. Did you know?
Do not proliferate threads on a single subject. That is the main thing you
have to remember in your pea sized brain.
Fucking Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 2:42 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 29, 2:10 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b445fa1d-ae27-4286-8c9e-fe4f922034a4@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 29, 11:44 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Stay on this thread and I will not bother you. Start a new thread on this
> > same subject, and I am going kick your dumb ass all the way to Hell and
> > back, you poor crazy bastard!
> >> Now I want war with you. Did you know?
>
> Do not proliferate threads on a single subject. That is the main thing you
> have to remember in your pea sized brain.
>
> Fucking Regards,
BICYCLES, RELIGION, POLLUTION, WAR ON DRUGS, HEALTHCARE, POLITICS,
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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 6:19 am
From: JimmyMac
On Aug 26, 5:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Jim A" <j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:4c76e10d$0$27997$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
>
>
> > On 08/26/2010 08:31 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> In the olden days (about 5 years ago) there were some fairly intelligent
> >> and
> >> civilized members of these newsgroups who were occasionally worth
> >> reading.
> >> But even back then it was rare to read anything of any intelligence.
> >> Let's
> >> face it, Usenet does only one thing. It argues interminably on the level
> >> of
> >> idiots.
>
> >> If we were all sitting around a seminar table it would not be so bad
> >> because
> >> there would be a professor to keep us on track. But without that
> >> professor
> >> (moderator), we all go off the track. Before you know it, we are headed
> >> to
> >> the lowest common denominator. That would be on the level of TM for
> >> instance. He is bona fide idiot who caterwauls on a single subject. Yes,
> >> it
> >> is possible to kill file such a cretin, but even so a single TM scares
> >> off
> >> new blood and utterly destroys a small newsgroup with multiple threads.
>
> >> A moderator would prevent the above scenario, but it will also prevent
> >> anything original or exciting ever being said. Usenet is a dead end. If
> >> we
> >> had any brains, we would give up on it. But the thought of a no good
> >> bastard
> >> like TM succeeding in destroying a newsgroup is too much for me.
> >> Apparently,
> >> it is my destiny to combat idiots like him. One thing is for certain. If
> >> good men do nothing, then evil men prevail.
>
> > But on usenet, Ed, there's nobody of any consequence left who will give a
> > s**t. Except you & me. And I'm gone come Saturday.
>
> TM is singlehandedly destroying RBS with his multiple posts, all on a single
> subject. On a larger newsgroup it may get buried, but on a small newsgroup
> like RBS such posting takes over and dominates. It is revolting to me that a
> complete idiot is able to do this. Fuck that god damn dumb stupid asshole
> bastard! I am determined that he will not get away with his depredations on
> RBS. He can post his shit on a single thread, but I will not allow him to
> post his shit on multiple threads on RBS.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
Ed ... truth be told you have dome much the same as TM in the past,
but TM goes you one better in dominating the newsgroup with spamming
posts that surpasses even your best efforts. Do I detect the reak
reason for your outrage? Could it be that you are just jealous that
someone has succeeded in out doing you? And, what's with this
destroying the newsgroup stuff? I thought you reserved that "honor"
for Ed Gin. Are you now saying that Ed GIn failed at the task and TM
now is the benefactor of the honor you once bestowed upon Ed Gin ...
the destroyer of the newsgroup? I'm not sure you should have laid
down the gauntlet regarding cross-posting of multiple threads on other
newsgroups. Usenet is not a moderated forum/ TM may rise to the
challenge and you'll not be able to do a thing about it, except throw
a tantrum (rave, rant, and do some name calling), none of which will
be at all effective, so goo luck with that.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 7:51 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10566c22-ba1f-431f-a995-d2ca44639e77@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 26, 5:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> TM is singlehandedly destroying RBS with his multiple posts, all on a
> single
> subject. On a larger newsgroup it may get buried, but on a small newsgroup
> like RBS such posting takes over and dominates. It is revolting to me that
> a
> complete idiot is able to do this. Fuck that god damn dumb stupid asshole
> bastard! I am determined that he will not get away with his depredations
> on
> RBS. He can post his shit on a single thread, but I will not allow him to
> post his shit on multiple threads on RBS.
>> Ed ... truth be told you have done much the same as TM in the past,
but TM goes you one better in dominating the newsgroup with spamming
posts that surpasses even your best efforts.
I never spammed - ever! Nor did I ever post multiple threads on a single
subject. Also, I was never an idiot like TM. As usual, you are unable to
make meaningful discriminations.
>> Do I detect the reak
reason for your outrage? Could it be that you are just jealous that
someone has succeeded in out doing you?
Jealous of a poor crazy bastard like TM? You have got to be kidding!
>> And, what's with this
destroying the newsgroup stuff? I thought you reserved that "honor"
for Ed Gin. Are you now saying that Ed GIn failed at the task and TM
now is the benefactor of the honor you once bestowed upon Ed Gin ...
the destroyer of the newsgroup?
Ed Gin was only with us briefly. This god damn son of a bitch TM never goes
away.
>> I'm not sure you should have laid
down the gauntlet regarding cross-posting of multiple threads on other
newsgroups. Usenet is not a moderated forum/ TM may rise to the
challenge and you'll not be able to do a thing about it, except throw
a tantrum (rave, rant, and do some name calling), none of which will
be at all effective, so good luck with that.
I do not care about the cross-posting, but I will step on his original posts
if he does not post anything original. That will discourage replies,
especially from newbies. He needs to learn not to multiply threads which
have no original content.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 1:29 pm
From: JimmyMac
On Aug 29, 9:51 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:10566c22-ba1f-431f-a995-d2ca44639e77@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 26, 5:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > TM is singlehandedly destroying RBS with his multiple posts, all on a
> > single
> > subject. On a larger newsgroup it may get buried, but on a small newsgroup
> > like RBS such posting takes over and dominates. It is revolting to me that
> > a
> > complete idiot is able to do this. Fuck that god damn dumb stupid asshole
> > bastard! I am determined that he will not get away with his depredations
> > on
> > RBS. He can post his shit on a single thread, but I will not allow him to
> > post his shit on multiple threads on RBS.
> >> Ed ... truth be told you have done much the same as TM in the past,
>
> but TM goes you one better in dominating the newsgroup with spamming
> posts that surpasses even your best efforts.
>
> I never spammed - ever! Nor did I ever post multiple threads on a single
> subject. Also, I was never an idiot like TM. As usual, you are unable to
> make meaningful discriminations.
You post the same old previously introduced, repetitious, masticated
and regurgitated tripe over and over ad nauseum and that's pretty much
the same is is not?
> >> Do I detect the real
>
> reason for your outrage? Could it be that you are just jealous that
> someone has succeeded in out doing you?
>
> Jealous of a poor crazy bastard like TM? You have got to be kidding!
TM pretty much does what you set out to do, dominate the newsgroup
with a off-topic posts. He just appears to be better at it than you.
> >> And, what's with this
> destroying the newsgroup stuff? I thought you reserved that "honor"
> for Ed Gin. Are you now saying that Ed Gin failed at the task and TM
> now is the benefactor of the honor you once bestowed upon Ed Gin ...
> the destroyer of the newsgroup?
>
> Ed Gin was only with us briefly. This god damn son of a bitch TM never goes
> away.
Sounds like you just painted a self-portrait, the only difference
being that you promise to go away, say your goodbyes over and over,
depart promising never to return but don't keep your promise. In the
final analysis, the end result is the same. You never go away
either. You two deserve one another. Enjoy!
> >> I'm not sure you should have laid
>
> down the gauntlet regarding cross-posting of multiple threads on other
> newsgroups. Usenet is not a moderated forum/ TM may rise to the
> challenge and you'll not be able to do a thing about it, except throw
> a tantrum (rave, rant, and do some name calling), none of which will
> be at all effective, so good luck with that.
>
> I do not care about the cross-posting, but I will step on his original posts
> if he does not post anything original.
I am baffled that you take umbrage with someone else doing what you
yourself have done so very often. You even once commented ... "I have
never had an original idea in my entire life and I never will."
That will discourage replies,
> especially from newbies. He needs to learn not to multiply threads which
> have no original content.
I guess it is unclear to me what you mean by "multiply threads". If
you mean multiple threads on a single topic, how different is that
from what you're done. A search of a newsgroup for a given topic
brings up multiple threads originated by you that address a single
topic year after year. This is somehow distinctly different?
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 2:36 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 9:51 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
[...]
>> You post the same old previously introduced, repetitious, masticated
and regurgitated tripe over and over ad nauseum and that's pretty much
the same is is not?
It is always in response to what is being said by someone else. Repetitive
types like you only deserve repetition. Ever notice how TM just ends up
talking to himself. What does that tell you?
[...]
>> TM pretty much does what you set out to do, dominate the newsgroup
with a off-topic posts. He just appears to be better at it than you.
He is a fucking idiot and you are almost on his level yourself for thinking
as you do. If he is your ideal, then why not engage him - or is he even too
dumb for you?
[...]
>> Sounds like you just painted a self-portrait, the only difference
being that you promise to go away, say your goodbyes over and over,
depart promising never to return but don't keep your promise. In the
final analysis, the end result is the same. You never go away
either. You two deserve one another. Enjoy!
I am a housekeeper. Everyone else on Usenet is way too stupid for me to ever
engage on substance. With TM, it just copy and paste. I will step on his
posts the way Ed Gin stepped on posts.
[...]
>> I guess it is unclear to me what you mean by "multiply threads". If
you mean multiple threads on a single topic, how different is that
from what you're done.
Never done it! In fact, I am mainly a responder, not an originator of new
threads. It is really pitiful how you are unable to think clearly about
anything at all. That is what happens when you allow your emotions to take
over your intellect.
>> A search of a newsgroup for a given topic
brings up multiple threads originated by you that address a single
topic year after year. This is somehow distinctly different?
It is indeed different if it is in response to what someone else has said. I
have never originated threads out of a clear blue sky. Only a fucked-up poor
crazy bastard like TM does that sort of thing.
Since you can't see any diffence between us, I suggest you engage him. I
will die laughing at your flaying about with the village idiot.
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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TOPIC: Friday the 13th encounter with Big Brother
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 7:19 am
From: "Clincher"
"Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
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> In the mail today I got a notice from the police department of a
> neighboring city. It was informing me that I owed them $85 for driving
> too fast - ~66 in a 50 mph zone, calculated by traffic light cameras.
> Funny thing is, I don't drive that vehicle. My wife does. The letter
> said that I'm responsible unless I can get another person to sign a letter
> saying they are responsible. Obviously, my wife was the one driving, on
> her way to work. She was probably a little bit late, and driving a bit
> fast to make up time.
>
> However, it brings up an interesting question. There is no cop on
> location to verify the driver, or even to verify that a human was driving.
> In fact, it could have been my license plates transferred to a similar
> looking vehicle, if someone wanted to automatically generate a ticket for
> me. And even if a relative or 'friend' borrowed my car, if they don't own
> up to it or accept responsibility, I'm then automatically responsible even
> if I can prove I was elsewhere, and couldn't have been driving the car?
In most states, the penalty for a camera ticket is purely monetary. No
points on your license.
So you as the registered owner is responsible for seeing that the fine gets
paid but nothing says you can't be made whole by the actual driver.
As the registered owner, you have complete control over who borrows your car
and under what terms (except in the case of theft, but then you'd have a
police report and an actual defense.)
If you cannot trust them to obey traffic laws or at least own up when
caught, it's irresponsible for you to be handing them control of a vehicle
in the first place. But if you must, you have other options:
- Before you hand over the keys, require them to sign a written agreement
(with checkout and checkin times) that they will reimburse you for all
camera and parking tickets issued against the vehicle within that time
period.
- For extra safety, don't hand over the keys unless they maintain a security
deposit with you for the purpose of paying such fines.
It's your car - nobody can force you to let someone else drive it. If you
don't want to get dinged for their speeding violations, you have options to
protect yourself.
In practice, of course, the most cases are like yours - the other driver is
a spouse or other household member - and unless you segregate your finances,
it's moot who pays the fine - either way, it comes out of the family budget.
> I am curious about what would happen if I took 2 cars of the same make ,
> model & year, and put the same plates (I have spares) on the back of both
> of them. Then, if I coordinated over a telephone with my wife or
> somebody, I could drive through one light, and then through a different
> light & traffic cam a couple of seconds later. It would look like I was
> going something like 800 miles per hour, and I wonder if they would issue
> a ticket for that? Probably.
Since you'd be admitting guilt of driving at least one car without valid
plates, I doubt they're worried about anyone attempting such a defense.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 9:54 am
From: Al
On Aug 27, 4:30 pm, Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> In the mail today I got a notice from the police department of a
> neighboring city. It was informing me that I owed them $85 for driving
> too fast - ~66 in a 50 mph zone, calculated by traffic light cameras.
> This is on a limited access "connector", which still has about 10
> intersections as it curves around the west portion of the major metro
> area. The camera was just barely able to make out the license plate
> numbers, evidently.
>
> Funny thing is, I don't drive that vehicle. My wife does. The
> letter said that I'm responsible unless I can get another person to sign
> a letter saying they are responsible. Obviously, my wife was the one
> driving, on her way to work. She was probably a little bit late, and
> driving a bit fast to make up time.
>
> However, it brings up an interesting question. There is no cop on
> location to verify the driver, or even to verify that a human was
> driving. In fact, it could have been my license plates transferred to a
> similar looking vehicle, if someone wanted to automatically generate a
> ticket for me. And even if a relative or 'friend' borrowed my car, if
> they don't own up to it or accept responsibility, I'm then automatically
> responsible even if I can prove I was elsewhere, and couldn't have been
> driving the car?
>
> That seems pretty bogus to me. I didn't like it when they started
> doing this with red light cameras, because I've always believed if you
> stop in the middle of the night, there is no traffic or whatever, you
> should just look both ways and then go, because it is pointless to just
> sit there, wasting gas for an extended period, just like it is at a stop
> sign. Not any more. And now they are estimating your speed, which
> means they are keeping track of you in the system from place to place.
>
> I am curious about what would happen if I took 2 cars of the same
> make , model & year, and put the same plates (I have spares) on the back
> of both of them. Then, if I coordinated over a telephone with my wife
> or somebody, I could drive through one light, and then through a
> different light & traffic cam a couple of seconds later. It would look
> like I was going something like 800 miles per hour, and I wonder if they
> would issue a ticket for that? Probably.
>
> My point is that I feel that a human should be present to issue any
> tickets. Once before, I went through a red light in an ice storm when
> taking a girl home after a party in college. I looked both ways, saw no
> oncoming traffic, and decided it would be more dangerous to brake and
> change speed than to run the light, which had changed faster than I
> expected. Of course, there was a cop there, and he pulled me over.
> Once I explained my reasoning, however, he agreed and simply let me off
> with a warning. Try that with a traffic camera, when its sole purpose
> is to generate extra tax revenue.
Yea, I hate the idea of getting stuck with a ticket when no
complaining witness/officer is present. Camera's don't take excuses
and may be subject to error. You could get an attorney and spend a
bundle to no purpose. There is a newer, I believe federal, law that
says every road needs to be surveyed to be sure speed limits are not
being held too low. If they did not do the survey on that road, the
tickets can be voided. Research that aspect.
Above not withstanding, your views on how the law should operate are
extremely arrogant. What allows you to go through red lights at night
based on your observation other than the fact you believe you can get
away with it? I'm required to stop whether traffic is present or not.
And assuming your wife was driving 66 in a 50 zone is very
irresponsible of her too. OH, she was late for work. That's the number
one excuse on the street. What if she ran into a car full of people
and killed someone? I guess she has the same attitude about laws as
you do. I would further add that she might have been on the cell phone
at the time as well or applying make-up. Why not use this little
setback as a heads-up to becoming responsible parents?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 10:17 am
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>How many stings before you decide to wipe out the little buggers? The
>paper wasp nests are pretty damn slick, but that doesn't necessarily
>mean that they get to live with us.
But they do get to live with me. Well, the civilized ones do.
However, I'm not allergic to bees or wasps. Those native red, brown, and
black semi-social "paper" wasps are at least as tame as honeybees. Or as
my cats. At present, I have two nests on the front porch and am not
going outside to see how many are nesting in the shelters that I provide
near the veggie garden. I'd rather have the wasps than, say, my
neighbors, my neighbor's dogs (_especially_ the dogs) or Jehovah's
Witnesses. AFAIK, neither of those eats insects; well, maybe they eat
houseflies but that doesn't count. OTOH, those imported yellow and black
"European" paper wasps, AWA the various ground-nesting "yellowjackets"
are a different story: They are devilspawn.
--
Derald
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TOPIC: Health Insurance Misery
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 3:39 pm
From: Artys
On Aug 27, 5:21 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "Artys" <lajo...@GMI.net> wrote in message
>
> news:d5cd18f2-4340-4978-b8ec-c37462394053@i31g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 27, 2:07 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>
> > Clams <"Clams"@drunkenclam.com> wrote:
> > >The advantage of health care insurance is not so much that they pay a
> > >portion of what's owed, but more importantly, they negotiate lower
> > >prices with doctors, hospitals, etc. If you walk in the door with no
> > >insurance, expect to be billed and extra 50%.
>
> > ABSOLUTELY FALSE!
>
> > They charge LESS for out of pocket costs
> >>>I am so scared of being shown the door by doctors and insurers, that I
> >>>feel trapped. The area that I live in, does that to people.
>
> Just do what I do...never need medical care. Eat right, work out, don't ever
> have kids. I'm well into my 50s and don't expect to see a doctor ever again.
> Why have insurance if you don't need healthcare?
You see, that is my point. I haven't used the insurance, but my
doctor requires me to have it!
Meanwhile, my income is low. Some months even the dollar menu is a
luxury. Now with these
new laws, I could be out of work, broke, forced to get rid of the
insurance, lose my doctor,
and then be fined by the federal government because I don't have it.
That law is not meant
for helping me!
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 4:02 pm
From: "Nick Naim"
"Artys" <lajolie@GMI.net> wrote in message
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> Hello all,
>
> Well, I have just been told that if I try to change to another
> insurance company, it will not be a "grandfather",
> and its rates will go sky-high for me. I have good health. This
> makes me feel trapped. How would you feel?
I use the monies that would have gone into heath insurance monthly premiums
to live a healthy life.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 8:48 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Nick Naim wrote:
> "Artys" <lajolie@GMI.net> wrote in message
> news:f54f9ec7-e918-4202-9d2a-42ac4f8f8620@k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Well, I have just been told that if I try to change to another
>> insurance company, it will not be a "grandfather",
>> and its rates will go sky-high for me. I have good health. This
>> makes me feel trapped. How would you feel?
> I use the monies that would have gone into heath insurance monthly premiums to live a healthy life.
Wont help you if you have a genetic predisposition to cancer or heart attacks etc.
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TOPIC: Atomic wristwatch
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 5:25 pm
From: "Nick Naim"
Mine.......
Over nite on the 28th Saturday it dropped 12 minutes behind for some unknown
reason.
Perhaps its the battery.But it is still running albeit 12 minutes on the
late side and holding.
I collect cheap watches and some fakes ect.
Most are now dead in the drawer.
They havnt seen the lite of day for a few years at best
So I,m going thru this drawer looking for life maybe in one of them to wear
as a back up until
I get the Atomic one repaired or replace the battery
They were all dead except for one............
The fake Rolex (day date) I bought about 7 years ago on the street for
$12.00 but havnt worn for a good year and a half.
I think I replaced the battery on it about 2 plus years ago.
The damn thing is only about 30 seconds off on the slow side and get
this..........
Still shows the correct weekday and date.
So now I dont have to spend $19.95 on a back up at WalMart/Kmart ect.
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