Saturday, September 25, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 17 new messages in 8 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* Discount Ed hardy jean (http://www.brandtrade66.com) - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6455e92715a8d345?hl=en
* UPS screwing with my medicine - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/52e2fdabac430e07?hl=en
* CommonCents: Anyone using it? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/16ea4f96a96515cb?hl=en
* Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8e5d7739c5452e28?hl=en
* The 11th Commandment - 7 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bff2baccb64e87f1?hl=en
* My parrots are doing fine under Socialism - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c3f12a285540674b?hl=en
* Bed Bugs got you uptight at night? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a163d6b1223d937d?hl=en
* Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en

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TOPIC: Discount Ed hardy jean (http://www.brandtrade66.com)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6455e92715a8d345?hl=en
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TOPIC: UPS screwing with my medicine
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/52e2fdabac430e07?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 2:45 am
From: Chief Thracian


On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 07:15:03 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:

>Try a different shipping carrier. If your pharmacy won't use a different
>carrier, that's their problem so tell them to either ship their products
>too you differently or you will not do business with them.

All shipping carriers are unreliable, self-serving and inconsiderate.
There is none that is better than any other, just like cell phone
companies. When it comes to home delivery--especially to apartment
dwellers--delivery services, no matter which company, treat their
customers shoddily.

The *only* solution--short of eliminating delivery services from your
life--is to find a local business that will be glad to use their
address to receive your packages. Of course, you must trust them, and
already have a good personal rapport with 'em.

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TOPIC: CommonCents: Anyone using it?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/16ea4f96a96515cb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 3:05 am
From: Al


m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Just curious if any users here and how its going?

Why yes, I am.
My local Hiller's market accepts change at their self-check-out so I
empty all my change there when there is no line. I save losing money
at the CoinStar.
It's going well.

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TOPIC: Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8e5d7739c5452e28?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 3:15 am
From: "Tim Downie"


Forrest Hodge wrote:
> On 9/22/2010 7:25 AM, john hamilton wrote:
>> Thinking about buying an older second hand car I was looking through
>> an old 'Which car guide 2005/2006' and got to wondering why under
>> the heading of *driving experience* cars with a diesel engine is
>> always getting a higher rating than the petrol model. (ie a red star
>> as opposed to a circle rating) I contacted Which quite some time and
>> asked them, but never got a
>> response. Having never owned a diesel car I dont really know what they
>> are
>> like to drive. I know people used to say that the 'power to
>> revolution' curve was different to a petrol engine and if you were
>> used to driving a petrol engine, it would take time to get used to
>> the diesel. But it would never be quite so satisfying to drive as
>> the petrol engine. I guess things probably have changed by now.
>>
>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that
>> diesel engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving
>> experience) because they are getting a higher rating in this
>> category than petrol engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>>
> Here in the states diesels aren't that common for passenger cars,
> there are a few, but 95% are gasoline (petrol) powered. I did get a
> chance to drive a neighbors cars back to back, They were both VW
> Jettas one with a 2.8L petrol V6 and the other was a 1.9L TDI. I thought
> the petrol VR6
> was far better.

Duh!

Not exactly comparing like with like in the power outputs there so hardly a
useful comparison when it comes to deciding relative merits of diesel over
petrol (or vice versa).

Tim


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TOPIC: The 11th Commandment
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bff2baccb64e87f1?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 8:48 am
From: Opus


On Sep 23, 12:45 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/the-ten-commandments.html
>
> I tend to forget the 10 Commandments, perhaps because they are COMMON
> SENSE (thou shalt not steal) or PLAIN STUPID (thou shalt not covet thy
> neighbor's donkey). The last one can be rearranged though to read
> "Thou shalt not cover your neighbor's SUV or house" to really make
> sense, but to envy your neighbor is the engine of capitalism.
>
> Anyway here's the 11th Commandment:
>
> "You can do whatever the fuck you want so long as you don't hurt
> anyone."
>
> This single Commandment is to be printed, circulated and drilled into
> the brain of every single Christian out there. Notice that under this
> law SUVs are a "no way Jose."
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "May the Spirits of the Jungle be with you"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Actually that comes close to the only "commandment" in most pagan
philosophies today, with the Wiccan Rede being the most quoted, " An
as ye harm none, do as ye will shall be the law." The Golden Dawn has
a different take on it that means essentially the same thing but you
have to have read about 40 pages of dissertation to understand it: "Do
as you Will shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, Love under
Will." The capitalization changes the meaning assigned to the words
Love and Will, making them shorthand for pages of doctrine. Rather
than waste bandwidth explaining subjects I'm only peripherally aware
of I'll let the student research this on his or her own. I know Wicca,
Golden Dawn is something else entirely.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 9:59 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 24, 8:48 am, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 23, 12:45 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/the-ten-commandments.html
>
> > I tend to forget the 10 Commandments, perhaps because they are COMMON
> > SENSE (thou shalt not steal) or PLAIN STUPID (thou shalt not covet thy
> > neighbor's donkey). The last one can be rearranged though to read
> > "Thou shalt not cover your neighbor's SUV or house" to really make
> > sense, but to envy your neighbor is the engine of capitalism.
>
> > Anyway here's the 11th Commandment:
>
> > "You can do whatever the fuck you want so long as you don't hurt
> > anyone."
>
> > This single Commandment is to be printed, circulated and drilled into
> > the brain of every single Christian out there. Notice that under this
> > law SUVs are a "no way Jose."
>
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> > "May the Spirits of the Jungle be with you"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Actually that comes close to the only "commandment" in most pagan
> philosophies today, with the Wiccan Rede being the most quoted, " An
> as ye harm none, do as ye will shall be the law."  The Golden Dawn has
> a different take on it that means essentially the same thing but you
> have to have read about 40 pages of dissertation to understand it: "Do
> as you Will shall be the whole of the Law. Love is the Law, Love under
> Will." The capitalization changes the meaning assigned to the words
> Love and Will, making them shorthand for pages of doctrine. Rather
> than waste bandwidth explaining subjects I'm only peripherally aware
> of I'll let the student research this on his or her own. I know Wicca,
> Golden Dawn is something else entirely.

Someone brought that up in another forum, but I thought it wasn't in
fashion any more.

I'm sure the "Spirits of the Jungle" ring a bell through the forests
of Northern Europe. Jesus came from the arid lands of Judea to end the
fun.


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 10:07 am
From: Tannim

I always thought the 11th Commandment was "Honor thy children." Anyway,
while we're on the subject of Commandments, let's look at what Jesus had
to say back in Matthew:

Mat 22:34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the
Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.
Mat 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question,
tempting him, and saying,
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

If you look at the 10 Commandments from Exodus:

Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land
of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any
likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth
beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I
the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers
upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate
me;
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and
keep my commandments.
Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for
the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it
thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy
manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that
is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and
all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD
blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long
upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not
covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor
his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

and you actually read them, in light of what Christ had to say in
Matthew, you realize that He spoke the truth, for if you love God with
all your mind, heart, and soul, you violate the first two, and if you
love your neighbor as yourself, you won't violate the other eight.

- I a m b u t m a d n o r t h - n o r t h w e s t . W h e n
t h e w i n d i s s o u t h e r l y , I k n o w a h a w
k f r o m a h a n d s a w . -


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 11:39 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 24, 10:26 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Don't you wish you could afford a new SUV or a new car

No, I wish to ride a bike and never drive again.

Nothing could be more depressing than driving in America anyway. ;)

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 10:56 am
From: MikenGina

*From this page:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/thelema2.htm
*
The Law of Thelema was revealed to the world by a praeterhuman
Intelligence calling himself Aiwass in Cairo, Egypt in March and April,
1904 e.v. Aiwass appeared first to Rose Edith Kelly -nee-
Crowley, in an altered state of consciousness (ASC), and
subsequently to the British poet and magical adept, Aleister
Crowley *(pronounced Crow-lee)* (born in Leamington, England on
October 12, 1875 e.v.). Aiwass proceeded to demonstrate his objective
existence independently of the psyches of both Crowley and Rose,
by leading them to the stele of Ankh-af-na-khonsu, a Theban
Egyptian priest of the 8th century B.C.E., in the Boulak Museum,
where they had never been. He then dictated a sacred text to
Crowley called the -Book of the Law-. For five years thereafter
Crowley resisted the Law of Thelema and the mission of Thelemic
prophet laid upon him by Aiwass, regarding the Cairo Working, as
it is called, as an "astral vision" (-i.e.-, a purely
imaginative – but not "imaginary" – experience). However,
Crowley's subsequent attainment of the grade of Master of the Temple
in the Supreme College of the Great White Brotherhood resulted in
his acceptance of the Law of Thelema and of his own prophetic
role as described in the -Book of the Law-. Crowley proclaimed
himself as the prophet of a new eon for humanity for the first
time in his long mystical poem, -Aha-! (1909), which has been
compared in beauty and profundity to the -Bhagavad-Gita-.
Thereafter he signed his correspondence and formal instructions
with the two main slogans of the -Book of the Law-, "Do what
thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law" and "Love is the law,
love under will."

*The symbol on this page hangs in our house. Gina was a follower of
Thelema and the O.T.O. for many years. She did translations of The Book
of the Law for the Brazilian O.T.O. founded by Marcelo Ramos Motta.
She met Motta and many others in high standing with the O.T.O. Motta
spoke with her in Toronto in the mid 70's.
Interesting if you want to read up on it.*

http://www.dowhatthouwilt.com/

*Many passages are quoted from the Book of the Law*

Invoke me under my stars! *Love is the law, love under will.* Nor let
the fools mistake love; for there are love and love. There is the dove,
and there is the serpent. Choose ye well! He, my prophet, hath chosen,
knowing the law of the fortress, and the great mystery of the House of
God.

All these old letters of my Book are aright; but צ [Tzaddi] is not the
Star. This also is secret: my prophet shall reveal it to the wise.

I give unimaginable joys on earth: certainty, not faith, while in life,
upon death; peace unutterable, rest, ecstasy; nor do I demand aught in
sacrifice.

My incense is of resinous woods & gums; and there is no blood therein:
because of my hair the trees of Eternity.

My number is 11, as all their numbers who are of us. The Five Pointed
Star, with a Circle in the Middle, & the circle is Red. My colour is
black to the blind, but the blue & gold are seen of the seeing. Also I
have asecret glory for them that love me.

Chapter 1:53-60
Liber AL vel Legis (The Book of the Law)
sub figura CCXX
as delivered by XCIII = 418 to DCLXVI

*\"life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
-- wow-- what a ride!!!\"*


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 12:29 pm
From: "Duane Hebert"


"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cc5b2da9-19dc-4eca-ba57-c92fa462ba1d@q2g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 24, 10:26 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>> Don't you wish you could afford a new SUV or a new car
>
> No, I wish to ride a bike and never drive again.
>
> Nothing could be more depressing than driving in America anyway. ;)

Try hitchhiking in America.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 12:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 24, 12:29 pm, "Duane Hebert" <s...@flarn.com> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:cc5b2da9-19dc-4eca-ba57-c92fa462ba1d@q2g2000vbk.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Sep 24, 10:26 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> >> Don't you wish you could afford a new SUV or a new car
>
> > No, I wish to ride a bike and never drive again.
>
> > Nothing could be more depressing than driving in America anyway. ;)
>
> Try hitchhiking in America.

That sounds worse than walking!

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TOPIC: My parrots are doing fine under Socialism
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 12:09 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


I understand the risks and dangers of socialism (such as corruption
and caudillismo), but a fair hand such as mine seems to encourage the
happy development of birds. Moreover the different species seem to
enjoy each other's food and cages, where they would be bored in
solitude (call it Gated Community if you will). Notice though that all
parrots are one family, where cats have no place.

George Orwell was a socialist himself though rather skeptic. His own
realism is called ANIMALISM, which is the only hope for the world. Of
course, not all animals are the same.

And the mouse... (that we'll leave for later).

---------------------------------------------------------------------

"If she herself had had any picture of the future, it had been of a
society of animals set free from hunger and the whip, all equal, each
working according to his capacity, the strong protecting the weak." -
G. Orwell

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 10:55 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:02170bb2-9860-49f6-8a47-01caa968d288@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com...
>I understand the risks and dangers of socialism (such as corruption
> and caudillismo), but a fair hand such as mine seems to encourage the
> happy development of birds. Moreover the different species seem to
> enjoy each other's food and cages, where they would be bored in
> solitude (call it Gated Community if you will). Notice though that all
> parrots are one family, where cats have no place.
>
> George Orwell was a socialist himself though rather skeptic. His own
> realism is called ANIMALISM, which is the only hope for the world. Of
> course, not all animals are the same.
>
> And the mouse... (that we'll leave for later).

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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TOPIC: Bed Bugs got you uptight at night?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 5:37 pm
From: VFW


In article
<70c7dacd-48cb-45e8-a10d-12e66e08652e@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
mike <yagr001@gmail.com> wrote:

> Bed Bugs got you uptight at night?
>
> Get Rid of those nasty Bed Bugs
>
>
> Preventing an infestation is the best form of bed bug control. If you
> think you¹re being bitten then
> this might be helpful:
>
>
> http://badbedbugs.blogspot.com/

Try Diatomaceous Earth. non-toxic.
--
Karma, What a concept!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 7:28 pm
From: MikenGina

PEST CONTROL
Diatomite is also used as an insecticide, due to its physico-sorptive
properties.
The fine powder absorbs lipids from the waxy outer layer of insects'
exoskeletons, causing them to dehydrate.
Arthropods die as a result of the water pressure deficiency, based on
Fick's law of diffusion.
This also works against gastropods and is commonly employed in gardening
to defeat slugs. However, since slugs inhabit humid environments,
efficacy is very low.
It is sometimes mixed with an attractant or other additives to increase
its effectiveness.
Medical-grade diatomite is sometimes used to de-worm both animals and
humans.
It is most commonly used in lieu of boric acid, and can be used to help
control and eventually eliminate a cockroach infestation.
This material has wide application for insect control in grain
storage.It has also been used to control bedbug infestations.

*It is used at the steam plant to filter high pressure control oil*
*called E-H Fluid.*

*\"life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming
-- wow-- what a ride!!!\"*

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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 10:51 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bbbc75c4-7e94-4a79-bc55-f7cad49653ac@y3g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> Fuck you too Asshole!

>> Snappy comeback ... FAGGOT!!!

Fuck you too Asshole!

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Sep 24 2010 11:16 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i7gh5r$24q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/23/2010 2:04 PM, JimmyMac aka Jim McNamara wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>>> Fuck you too Asshole!
>>
>> Snappy comeback ... FAGGOT!!!
>>
> Mr. Ed the Grate is a bundle of sticks?

The only thing I have said to Jim McNamara which he truly understands is
"Fuck you too Asshole". It is wonderful to be finally understood fully. It
is all I will ever have to say to him and to similar idiots who do not know
how to read or how to think. It is a copy and paste which only takes me
about 10 seconds.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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