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TOPIC: Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8e5d7739c5452e28?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:00 am
From: Peter Hill
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:24:02 +0100, "john" <chris1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>"DavidR" <curedham@4bidden.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:8fvb0sF436U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i7cp4t$4v1$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that diesel
>>> engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving experience)
>>> because they are getting a higher rating in this category than petrol
>>> engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Petrol is better for clean starts. Diesel (or any turbo) much better
>> between
>> 30-80.
>>
>> Consider my last car, petrol of 85bhp/t. It was geared for 36mph in first,
>> with 30mph a comfortable maximum. In second, it had about 60bhp at 30mph
>> and
>> maxed out at a noisy 60mph. 50-70 times were about 8, 11, 17
>> seconds in the three top gears.
>>
>> Now diesel, also 85bhp/t. In 1st gear 24mph is possible, 20mph being a
>> comfortable maximum. That's the bit that takes getting used to. But in 3rd
>> gear at 30mph it has 70bhp, maximum power comes at a civilised 60mph and
>> if required can continue to 75mph. Thus 3rd is quicker and has
>> more top & bottom range than the old 2nd gear. It gets even better looking
>> at the
>> 50-70 times: about 6, 7 and 10 seconds. Quite simply, motorway inclines no
>> longer exist and when a blocker moves out of the way I can now get air
>> between me and the tailgater.
>
>Most of this is simply due to being turbod, try a petrol turbo...
Preferably one with a smallish turbo for a really good kick up the
rump at 60-70mph in top gear. 225bhp 2.0 TFSi Audi, 112.5bhp/L. Fiat
Punto 1.4 Evo Abarth Multiair turbo 170bhp, 121bhp/L, 47mpg. 335i -
306bhp, 101.4 bhp/L, near flatline torque from nothing to 5500rpm,
then it drops off as turbos are too small.
Then try a premium diesel turbo, SAAB 1.9 TTiD or TT Multijet (Lancia
Delta). Another good kick up the rump in top at M-way speeds.
Then try the worlds best production SI turbo with variable phase,
duration and lift valve timing. Nissan 2002 X-Trail GT - SR20VET 2.0L
280bhp Japan only (import), 140bhp/L, flatline torque from 3200rpm all
the way to max power at 6800rpm.
Don't hold your breath but variable compression SI turbo may yet
appear. Nissan are supposed to be production ready, just needs
something FR 2+2 and smaller than a 370Z to sit in, 1.6L 225bhp
140bhp/L and it will flat line the torque curve.
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/INTRODUCTION/DETAILS/VCR/
http://www.prodrive.com/up/vcr.pdf
Problem is they all come at an increasingly premium price.
V8's even ones that technically are no better than L1.3 Ford Kent,
just 4x bigger so 4x more power, are even more pricey both to buy and
keep in fuel.
--
Peter Hill
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Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:51 am
From: John
These magazines are often biased towards diesels as its what the
authors of the articles drive.
I'd like to see Tdi's compared with Tsi's and Sdi's compared to
standard aspirated Petrol engines for a fair comparison.
Most of my driving is in stop start traffic and I don't like to hang
around I like to get away quick and Petrol I think is better. I
couldn't car less about being able to pull away slightly quicker at
mid speeds and even if I did then how does Tsi compare to Tdi? I think
diesel is pretty good for fuel economy and I like the idea of the
diesel engine but I can't live with the extra noise and rumbling of
the engine and also knowing how much more I am polluting on a local
level. All the talk of diesel being greener for the last couple of
decades its actually a lot worse on a local level and the stuff it
gives out is 100 times more nasty than anything petrol could hope to
do leading to bronchitis, asthma, other respiratory illnesses and
cancers. No thanks I'll stick with the refined.
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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:29 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3d07d7b6-3935-4628-bddc-0dbb8d7e9df7@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 25, 3:44 pm, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]
> > The only thing I have said to Jim McNamara which he truly understands is
> > "Fuck you too Asshole.
>
> Proving once again that you are as perceptive as the average tree
> stump. REALITY .... just one service that I provide to the undeserving Mr.
> Dolan . Do come back for more, Ed.
>
> > It is wonderful to be finally understood fully.
>
> I doubt the even your therapist understands you fully.
>
> > It is all I will ever have to say to him and to similar idiots who do
> > not know
> > how to read or how to think. It is a copy and paste which only takes me
> > about 10 seconds.
>
> So reading and thinking are you're strong suit? Thanks. I needed a
> good laugh today. Your middle initial must be "H" (thin hubris). One
> of you major malfunctions is how you approach people. You basically
> engage people with an, "I'll tell you what you want (an need) to hear"
> demeanor and that doesn't fly, but what can one really expect from a
> misanthropic, troglodyte, faggot anyways. You really are a one hell
> of a real piece of work. You are completely and utterly fucked up ...
> BIG TIME!!!
Fuck you too Asshole!
Fucking Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:41 am
From: "Edward Dolan"
"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e4e2b584-a933-48ca-bd7f-3697e40b6641@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> You know Tom, the guy is always putting you down for just having a
profession and working for a living as though that is for some twited
reason of disdain whereas being a lazy, worthless, parasite that
contributes absolutely nothing to society *yeah I'm referring to you
Ed)t is somehow an honorable endeavor, though only from Dolan's warped
perspective of course,. Go figure. I suspect that the only thing
that Dolan has worked at his entire life, with any concerted effort,
is the honing of his his skill as the quintessential, obnoxious,
asshole of cyberspace. What a claim to fame ... NOT!!!
I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It is
hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an IT
specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
about.
By the way, a profession is nothing but a license to steal. Ask any lawyer.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:32 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 9/28/2010 5:41 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac"<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:e4e2b584-a933-48ca-bd7f-3697e40b6641@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>
>> You know Tom, the guy is always putting you down for just having a
> profession and working for a living as though that is for some twited
> reason of disdain whereas being a lazy, worthless, parasite that
> contributes absolutely nothing to society *yeah I'm referring to you
> Ed)t is somehow an honorable endeavor, though only from Dolan's warped
> perspective of course,. Go figure. I suspect that the only thing
> that Dolan has worked at his entire life, with any concerted effort,
> is the honing of his his skill as the quintessential, obnoxious,
> asshole of cyberspace. What a claim to fame ... NOT!!!
>
> I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
> than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It is
> hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
> fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an IT
> specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
> about.
>
I used to pick up and pack 40 to 50 thousand pounds of oil filters on a
12-hour night shift for $4.90/hour.
> By the way, a profession is nothing but a license to steal. Ask any lawyer.
>
Hate to break this to you Ed, but not all professionals are lawyers.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:34 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°
On 9/28/2010 5:29 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> Fuck you too Asshole!
>
Ed,
Your post is lacking in creativity and interest to the reader.
--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
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TOPIC: My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered!
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 5:53 am
From: dgk
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Whether it was my prayers or the actual need for cash by the city, my
>prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
>thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
>sell my scooter.
>
>So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
>for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
>practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
>forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
>middle of the intersection.
>
>If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
>prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
>must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
>
>NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
>and I'm still for the cameras.
>
>
Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
break sharply to avoid tickets. SInce everyone is going over the speed
limit, well, you can guess what happens. The cameras seem to prevent
very few side impact collisions because most opposing drivers
understand that the trailing cars in a pack will usually continue
through a light just turning red and wait a second before starting.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 6:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 28, 5:53 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Whether it was my prayers or the actual need for cash by the city, my
> >prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
> >thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
> >sell my scooter.
>
> >So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
> >for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
> >practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> >forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> >middle of the intersection.
>
> >If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
> >prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
> >must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
>
> >NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
> >and I'm still for the cameras.
>
> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> break sharply to avoid tickets. SInce everyone is going over the speed
> limit, well, you can guess what happens. The cameras seem to prevent
> very few side impact collisions because most opposing drivers
> understand that the trailing cars in a pack will usually continue
> through a light just turning red and wait a second before starting.
I've heard that argument 100 times, but it makes little sense:
1- Observe proper distance b/ cars, ie. a car for every 10 miles...
Isn't that taught anymore?
2- When it does happen it's most like the result of the cell phone,
which is the bigger problem,
3- It's preferable a rear-end collision to a broadside one,
4- The guilty party pays for the crime, where before it was uncertain
who ran the light,
5- Cyclists and motorcyclists were victims of lots of these accidents
since they were simply ignored,
6- Money for the city is always good --if they use it right. ;)
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:29 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
OK, this is the situation in Belgium and Germany which I gathered
around. For an eyewitness account, you must kindly provide airline
tickets, car rental fees and hotel accommodations. Lunch is on me...
"Just a perspective from over the pond.
In Belgium (or at least in Flanders) there are a lot of camera's. We
have 3 kinds:
1. Trafiic lights. They detect if you run through red lights and only
that no speeding. Mostly places on dangerous crossings. Sometimes they
are combined with speed camera's but that's rare
2. Speed camera's mostly on rural roads in buildup area's where people
really should be carefull of there speed
3. Highway patrols. Sometimes moving along with traffic or standing on
the side of the road with a speed gun.
Most people here think that the government only installs these to get
more money, while there effect has been proven to lower accident if
placed on accident sensitive locations. I coulnd't care less, since I
never speed.
For the hacker command, we use camera's taht aren't connected to any
network, so no hacking is possible. Yes, that means that from time to
time somebody needs to go by every camera to get it's picture and put
in a new catridge (analog or digital).
Also bnther, thos camera's are correct. Theve been calibrated plus
they allow a tolarence. If the speed limit is pe. 55mph they only
start flashing at 60mph.
Another interesting thing they do here in Belgium: Since the camera
itself is quit expensive they only by a few but construct a lot more
poles to put them on. Since you can't see from you're car if that box/
pole has a camera inside. You'll slow down for every pole (or not
speed to begin with) They move the camera's around so you never can be
sure where the real ones are."
***
I was impressed at how rigidly Germans obeyed the speed limits when I
was driving over there last month.
I was also impressed at how reasonable those speed limits were, for
the most part. Urban areas and high traffic areas limited, highways
with a high "recommended speed" of 130 km/h. (I also understand that
although the police do not enforce a speed limit, if someone gets into
an accident above the recommended speed, it could impact the
willingness of their insurance provider to cover the cost of the
accident.) In other words, they weren't playing the silly games that
U.S. highway patrols do on rural highways, hiding behind billboards or
trees. The traffic cameras keep a strict eye on the areas (around
exits or in urban/developed areas,) where the speed is properly
limited. Slower traffic keeps right, faster traffic keeps left. If we
were to move in that direction, it would be an improvement from where
we are now, at least from a driving safety and efficiency standpoint.
On a technical level, things seem to work well.
However.... I am still concerned at the civil liberties implications
of government cameras taking pictures for law enforcement purposes.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22498
***
About the government having you in check... no big deal. It's the
government "by the people, for the people, etc." But they'll be
feeding on the real bad guys.
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 10:33 am
From: dgk
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 06:06:20 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sep 28, 5:53 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
>> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
>>
>>
>>
>> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >Whether it was my prayers or the actual need for cash by the city, my
>> >prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
>> >thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
>> >sell my scooter.
>>
>> >So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
>> >for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
>> >practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
>> >forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
>> >middle of the intersection.
>>
>> >If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
>> >prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
>> >must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
>>
>> >NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
>> >and I'm still for the cameras.
>>
>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
>> break sharply to avoid tickets. SInce everyone is going over the speed
>> limit, well, you can guess what happens. The cameras seem to prevent
>> very few side impact collisions because most opposing drivers
>> understand that the trailing cars in a pack will usually continue
>> through a light just turning red and wait a second before starting.
>
>I've heard that argument 100 times, but it makes little sense:
>
>1- Observe proper distance b/ cars, ie. a car for every 10 miles...
>Isn't that taught anymore?
>
>2- When it does happen it's most like the result of the cell phone,
>which is the bigger problem,
>
>3- It's preferable a rear-end collision to a broadside one,
>
>4- The guilty party pays for the crime, where before it was uncertain
>who ran the light,
>
>5- Cyclists and motorcyclists were victims of lots of these accidents
>since they were simply ignored,
>
>6- Money for the city is always good --if they use it right. ;)
If you leave four car lengths at 40 mph you will have three cars move
in front of you. I'm well aware of the "rule", but clearly we're
facing real life here. There is no indication that cell phone use has
a significant effect. I almost hit someone who stopped for a yellow
light the other day and I was paying attention. You just don't expect
people to stop like that. I didn't hit him because I had enough room.
Maybe the rear end accident rates will drop as people get used to
this. If so, it is certainly a good thing.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 28, 10:56 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sep 27, 8:46 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> ><beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> On Sep 27, 4:51 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > , but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> >> > forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> >> > middle of the intersection.
>
> Don't be ridiculous. If you're already in the middle of an
> intersection you're either already running the light or you're with
> the green and perfectly legal.
>
> >> No one can"force" you to run the light. You're as bad as the idiots
> >> who say speeders on the freeways force everyone else to speed.!!! I
> >> never speed or run reds and no criminal is gonna force me to. I got
> >> balls.
>
> >You can only be stupid to cut off a car coming at you determined to
> >run the red light and whatever stands on his way.
>
> >Actually you'll be charged for the accident too!
>
> >You are obssessed with speed without minding where that speeding
> >happens. For example, I do NOT mind a Ferrari going 120 mph on the
> >expressway on the passing lane.
>
> God Lord, I certainly mind somebody going 120 MPH regardless of the
> car and regardless if they're Michael Schumacher.
Common place in Germany. But with true socialism we can ban Ferraris.
Having a Ferrari in America though is a teasing game.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:30 am
From: VFW
In article
<b3b39afb-8323-4943-9205-6df6bc4f9f37@x12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 28, 10:56 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> > TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sep 27, 8:46 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > ><beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >> On Sep 27, 4:51 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
> >
> > >> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > , but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> > >> > forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> > >> > middle of the intersection.
> >
> > Don't be ridiculous. If you're already in the middle of an
> > intersection you're either already running the light or you're with
> > the green and perfectly legal.
> >
> > >> No one can"force" you to run the light. You're as bad as the idiots
> > >> who say speeders on the freeways force everyone else to speed.!!! I
> > >> never speed or run reds and no criminal is gonna force me to. I got
> > >> balls.
> >
> > >You can only be stupid to cut off a car coming at you determined to
> > >run the red light and whatever stands on his way.
> >
> > >Actually you'll be charged for the accident too!
> >
> > >You are obssessed with speed without minding where that speeding
> > >happens. For example, I do NOT mind a Ferrari going 120 mph on the
> > >expressway on the passing lane.
> >
> > God Lord, I certainly mind somebody going 120 MPH regardless of the
> > car and regardless if they're Michael Schumacher.
>
> Common place in Germany. But with true socialism we can ban Ferraris.
>
> Having a Ferrari in America though is a teasing game.
I just saw an ad for an Audi, V10 capable of doing 195 mph.
Now , they said it was very affordable, but never revealed the price.
my q. Just where are you going to drive this sucker?
w/o losing your license?
--
Karma, What a concept!
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 11:43 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 28, 11:30 am, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <b3b39afb-8323-4943-9205-6df6bc4f9...@x12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 28, 10:56 am, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> > > TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >On Sep 27, 8:46 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > > ><beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > >> On Sep 27, 4:51 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> > > >> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >> > , but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> > > >> > forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> > > >> > middle of the intersection.
>
> > > Don't be ridiculous. If you're already in the middle of an
> > > intersection you're either already running the light or you're with
> > > the green and perfectly legal.
>
> > > >> No one can"force" you to run the light. You're as bad as the idiots
> > > >> who say speeders on the freeways force everyone else to speed.!!! I
> > > >> never speed or run reds and no criminal is gonna force me to. I got
> > > >> balls.
>
> > > >You can only be stupid to cut off a car coming at you determined to
> > > >run the red light and whatever stands on his way.
>
> > > >Actually you'll be charged for the accident too!
>
> > > >You are obssessed with speed without minding where that speeding
> > > >happens. For example, I do NOT mind a Ferrari going 120 mph on the
> > > >expressway on the passing lane.
>
> > > God Lord, I certainly mind somebody going 120 MPH regardless of the
> > > car and regardless if they're Michael Schumacher.
>
> > Common place in Germany. But with true socialism we can ban Ferraris.
>
> > Having a Ferrari in America though is a teasing game.
>
> I just saw an ad for an Audi, V10 capable of doing 195 mph.
> Now , they said it was very affordable, but never revealed the price.
> my q. Just where are you going to drive this sucker?
> w/o losing your license?
> --
They figure they'll milk you twice when buying this car: 1- At the
time of purchase, 2- When you use it at full capacity and get so many
tickets.
Or you can park it outside your house with a sign, "Hey you all, I got
a Ferrari!"
I see them roaring all the time between 2nd and 3rd gear.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:46 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 28, 12:37 pm, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:37:09 +0000 (UTC), Brent
>
>
>
> <tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On 2010-09-28, Steve <stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:20:46 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> >> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Sep 27, 8:46 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> >>><beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Sep 27, 4:51 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> >>>> the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> > , but I'm still nervous of other drivers
> >>>> > forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
> >>>> > middle of the intersection.
>
> >> Don't be ridiculous. If you're already in the middle of an
> >> intersection you're either already running the light or you're with
> >> the green and perfectly legal.
>
> >>>> No one can"force" you to run the light. You're as bad as the idiots
> >>>> who say speeders on the freeways force everyone else to speed.!!! I
> >>>> never speed or run reds and no criminal is gonna force me to. I got
> >>>> balls.
>
> >>>You can only be stupid to cut off a car coming at you determined to
> >>>run the red light and whatever stands on his way.
>
> >>>Actually you'll be charged for the accident too!
>
> >>>You are obssessed with speed without minding where that speeding
> >>>happens. For example, I do NOT mind a Ferrari going 120 mph on the
> >>>expressway on the passing lane.
>
> >> God Lord, I certainly mind somebody going 120 MPH regardless of the
> >> car and regardless if they're Michael Schumacher.
>
> >Why?
>
> <LOL> Because they're going to come straight into the back of
> somebody going 75 MPH who is passing somebody going 70 MPH... Probably
> a big truck. That'd be messy.
>
> >It doesn't make a difference to me. Then again I'm not a control
> >freak, like the LLBs who've blocked the passing lane which brings some
> >arseholish drivers into the right and shoulder at high speed where they
> >cause problems for me. Like the BMW M3 driver that passed me using an on
> >ramp acceleration lane and the right shoulder.
>
> >I drove nearly 120mph on the autobahn behind a cop I couldn't quite keep
> >up with (damn 1.6L rental car ;)) and it was a complete non-event. It's
> >time americans stopped being a bunch of holier than thou control freaks
> >and stopped trying to turn all of society into a first grade government
> >school classroom.
>
> <chuckle> Unless you're making that all up as I suspect, I think
> that it was probably 120 KPH since speedometers over that register in
> kilometers. That'd make it about 70 MPH. Not many 1.6 litre cars
> that will even go 120 MPH. Maybe a mini-cooper. I sure wouldn't want
> to rear end a semi truck in one of those...
I don't want to be in a collision b/ MiniCooper and SUV.
What is the problem, the Mini or the Maxi?
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TOPIC: why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:50 am
From: Susan Bugher
Ohioguy wrote:
> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in the
> summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
>
> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps than
> our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about 70% more
> exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.
A difference in insulation in the ceiling (or walls) may be the cause
(been there, had that problem).
Susan
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:11 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Ohioguy wrote:
> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in
> the summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
Have you actually checked that with a decent thermometer ?
There are some things that make a room appear to be hotter
or cooler when in fact it isnt actually hotter or cooler at all.
> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
One obvious possibility is that it may not be as well insulated as
the other rooms you are comparing it with. That may not necessarily
be deliberate insulation, just the wall construction or exposure etc.
> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps
> than our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about
> 70% more exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.
You can get that effect if the walls of his room are better insulated etc.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 3:40 pm
From: Gordon
Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote in news:sEboo.17378$X06.3330@newsfe10.iad:
> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in the
> summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
>
> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps than
> our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about 70% more
> exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.
As others have mentioned;
look for poor or damaged insolation. There could be moisture
in the walls that has compromised the insilation, for instance.
Or amybe the builder ran out of insilation before he could finish
the room.
From personal experience I can tell you that insilation makes a big
difference. I had a room like you describe. When I went into the
attic I found gaps in the insilation and one entire rafter bay
was uninsulated. 2 rolls of fiberglass made a huge difference.
You should also check for proper air flow from your furnace.
I would check for broken, disconnected, or crushed ducts.
also uninsulated ducts running through attics or crawl space.
It may also be that the ductwork is undersized. If the main
duct is too small, it may not have any air left for the
room at the end of the run.
Also make sure that the room has a proper air return path.
If the door to the room is closed all the time, the HVAC
system can't remove the old air.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:49 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Sep 27, 9:44 am, Derald <der...@invalid.net> wrote:
> "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> >The best shipping company, without a doubt, is the USPS.
>
> Same here. Worst, by far, is FedEx. When it was still around, I
> used to insist on DHL as the only alternative to USPS because it had a
> "last mile" arrangement with USPS and could deliver to P.O. boxes.
> Delivery to street addresses only is a deal-killer, for me.
> --
> Derald
Allow me to join in. Yesterday I almost tripped over a package
delivered to me from FedEx, I was expecting it the next day, so that
was fine. I saw the delivery guy dropping off next door and I spoke to
him. "Everyone else knocks on my door or at least puts the package
behind the screen door." He looks at me like I'm speaking Martian and
says, "OK". Too cool to be true.
I've had two packages go missing, both 'delivered' by FedEx. I have
cancled orders once I learned they were being shipped FedEx.
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TOPIC: Only Disney can design a smart transportation system
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:51 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 8:33 pm, Miles Bader <mi...@gnu.org> wrote:
> John S <joh...@no.spam> writes:
> > It sounds smarter/require less resources to have one vehicle, even if
> > it may be overkill at sometimes.
>
> Easy solution:
>
> (1) design cities so that many activities (stores, restaurants/
> entertainment, schools -- the modern U.S. habit of driving kids to
> school is probably one of the most idiotic things ever) are within
> walking distance, or walking distance via fast and frequent public
> transport (work, large shopping centers/entertainment)
>
> (2) make cities bike friendly so that many other activities are within
> biking distance (parks, recreation); bikes are a "vehicle", but require
> orders of magnitude less invesment/materials/space
>
> (3) make car/vehicle rental easy and cheap, with convenient, walkable
> locations, so when you _do_ need to move a refrigerator, it's no problem
Thank you. All those simple yet effective solutions have been
incorporated into the MASTER PLAN.
They are considered part of New Urbanism, or livable communities. The
problem is the movers and shakers live in Gated Communities.
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TOPIC: Nov 2011 before a Lipitor generic??!!
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:53 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Sep 27, 9:49 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Is it still going to be THAT long before there is a
> Lipitor generic on the market?
Excercise, fruits and veggies. Much cheaper and less side effects.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 8:53 am
From: me@privacy.net
Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6116@gmail.com> wrote:
>Excercise, fruits and veggies. Much cheaper and less side effects.
You do know that genetics plays a big factor in high
cholesterol and some people have to take such drugs
even if athletes?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:09 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Sep 28, 8:53 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Excercise, fruits and veggies. Much cheaper and less side effects.
>
> You do know that genetics plays a big factor in high
> cholesterol and some people have to take such drugs
> even if athletes?
Have to? Who says you have to?
Quoting:
In 2004, Pfizer's blockbuster drug Lipitor became the first
prescription drug to make more than $10 billion in annual sales. Over
twenty-six million Americans have taken Lipitor, the most popular
statin drug. Pfizer is now running full-page Lipitor ads in numerous
papers, including The New York Times and USA Today. The ads feature
Dr. Robert Jarvik, inventor of the artificial heart. The ad reads: In
patients with multiple risk factors for heart disease, LIPITOR REDUCES
RISK OF HEART ATTACK BY 36%.* The noteworthy part of this ad is the
asterisk and this explanation of the 36 percent statistic: "That
means, in a large clinical study, 3% of patients taking a sugar pill
or placebo had a heart attack compared to 2% of patients taking
Lipitor."
Another Jarvik/Lipitor Times ad proclaims: "In patients with type 2
diabetes, LIPITOR REDUCES RISK OF STROKE BY 48%.* If you also have at
least one other risk factor for heart disease...." The explanation:
"That means, in a large clinical study, 2.8% of patients taking a
sugar pill or placebo had a stroke compared to 1.5% of patients taking
Lipitor."
Twenty-six billion dollars a year for a one to two percent decreased
risk for heart attack and stroke—that's what all the fuss is about? It
almost seems like snake oil. Yet, some doctors are recommending we put
statins in the drinking water. Others are now suggesting that infants
with a family history of heart disease should take statins as a
preventative measure...
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:33 pm
From: Jim...8
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:53:00 -0700 (PDT), Mrs Irish Mike
<wilma6116@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 27, 9:49 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> Is it still going to be THAT long before there is a
>> Lipitor generic on the market?
>
>Excercise, fruits and veggies. Much cheaper and less side effects.
Well they're a very good option even if they're not cheaper, and in my
case Lipitor was cheaper.
However for those like myself, and there's plenty of them to be found
if you do a search online, Lipitor can only be described as pure evil.
The side effects just don't make the drug worthwhile and as soon as
their copyright protection expires they'll probably release a better
statin which will render Lipitor obsolete.
http://jimpicturetrail.blogspot.com/
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