Thursday, January 27, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 10 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Lexmark 2500 printer - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3241f06ec91314ff?hl=en
* Stop the Bullshit Campaign - 4 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ee1139f5602bbdf4?hl=en
* Confirmed: No bicycles in Heaven! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4dbe67a295975554?hl=en
* Individual Health Insurance Rates/Plans - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e0eaf15f862a905a?hl=en

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TOPIC: Lexmark 2500 printer
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3241f06ec91314ff?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Jan 25 2011 10:28 pm
From: aesthete8


Any reactions to that?

Is that recommendable?


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 5:34 am
From: a real cheapskate


On Jan 26, 1:28 am, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any reactions to that?
>
> Is that recommendable?

kodak printers have the lowest cost ink..........


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 5:57 am
From: Jeff Thies


On 1/26/2011 1:28 AM, aesthete8 wrote:
> Any reactions to that?
>
> Is that recommendable?


Let's see, you want to buy a discontinued printer.

I'm not directly familiar with that, but I have owned other Lexmarks.
The ink cartridges are expensive and the printer head is in the
cartridge. Ink has a tendency to dry there and you have to replace
cartridges that still have ink in them. With all the head cleaning and
realignment needed, you can run out of ink doing nothing. I'll never buy
another.

Spend a little more, the ink, not the cost of the printer is what you
need to worry about.

I've been liking the HP stuff (recycles ink used to clean heads), but
no manufacturer is without issues. Definitely get a separate black and I
prefer separate colors instead of all in the same cartridge.

Jeff

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TOPIC: Stop the Bullshit Campaign
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ee1139f5602bbdf4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:18 am
From: Opus


On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> now!"
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
repeatedly, as if it was a real document.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


On Jan 26, 12:18 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 11:50 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > (This may be applicable to any great project that never comes --such
> > as bullet trains or bike facilities. Words like "Master Plan" abound.
> > Under communism they were known as Five Year Plans)
>
> > "Whether you reject the Bible, the hobos occupying your community, cat
> > shit or any kind of shit, this is the campaign for you. Politics and
> > religion may never be the same. You want them to deliver the goods
> > now!"
>
> >http://www.zazzle.com/bullshitcampaign_tshirt-235412118881194491
>
> > Thank you for your understanding and cooperation. I just hate it when
> > I step on cat's shit or when they talk about Jesus coming soon!
>
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > The Banana Revolution can deliver the goods... "Bananas for all!"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> way to pay for any of it. And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

Yeah, I was "inspired" while trying to figure mine out. ;)

"COMING SOON!"


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 10:12 am
From: The Real Bev


On 01/26/11 09:18, Opus wrote:

> Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> way to pay for any of it.

Don't worry about the cost, paint is (or at least should be) cheap.
That's all Pasadena's bike lanes are. Totally useless, but they allow
the City Fathers to feel good about themselves. No idea how much the
'Share the Road' signs are, but they're equally useless and probably a
lot more expensive.

If they really want to be bike friendly they'd fix the goddam potholes
and paving discontinuities.

> And in the city I live in it's even worse, I
> can't even read the "Garland Master Bike Plan", because it doesn't
> exist. But the city's 2030 master planning document refers to it
> repeatedly, as if it was a real document.

And here we think the feds are corrupt -- at least on a percentage basis
cities have it way over Washington when it comes to thieving officials.

--
Cheers, Bev
*************************************************
Never argue with a woman holding a torque wrench.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


On Jan 26, 1:12 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/26/11 09:18, Opus wrote:
>
> > Like I'm getting here in the suburbs of Hell, the "Dallas Master Bike
> > plan". Hundreds of pages of maps for bike routes and paths, with no
> > way to pay for any of it.
>
> Don't worry about the cost, paint is (or at least should be) cheap.
> That's all Pasadena's bike lanes are.  Totally useless, but they allow
> the City Fathers to feel good about themselves.  No idea how much the
> 'Share the Road' signs are, but they're equally useless and probably a
> lot more expensive.
>
> If they really want to be bike friendly they'd fix the goddam potholes
> and paving discontinuities.

That's why many people use mountain bikes in the middle of the city,
right?

Here we have dozens of bike lanes but they are never connected to be
usable.

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TOPIC: Confirmed: No bicycles in Heaven!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4dbe67a295975554?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 9:30 am
From: Opus


On Jan 25, 11:54 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:39 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > > admission.
>
> > > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> > Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
> > nice pair of wings?
>
> I hate flying. Heaven must have bicycles or scooters.
>
> Actually I think scooters are way more fun, but it doesn't keep you
> fit. And who cares anyway when we all will be fat up there. (This is
> an educated guess, seeing Christians being lazy and driving to the
> store.)
>
> You know, we should drive scooters instead of cars.

I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
exert ourselves doing so, not that thee were fleets of SUVs carrying
people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:24 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


On Jan 26, 12:30 pm, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 11:54 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> the deep jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 12:39 pm, Derek C <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 24, 6:24 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of
> > > the deep jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Someone just told me that only SUVs are found in Heaven. I don't know
> > > > if Heaven is for big shots only, but this bastard (it must be a
> > > > bastard) denied there are bicycles in which case the poor are denied
> > > > admission.
>
> > > > Funny, I already was getting ideas like jumping with my monkey bike
> > > > all over the place and never getting hurt or killed. The idea of
> > > > wings, on the other hand, seem to have fallen out of fashion and now
> > > > people try to use their power and influence to get near God.
>
> > > > But like I say, Heaven and Hell are on this Earth and cyclists are
> > > > pedestrians with wings. Only poor pedestrians don't have wings and are
> > > > threatened by cyclists on sidewalks. Even our roads are pretty hellish
> > > > too for drivers! Such is life, Darwinism all around us.
>
> > > Why would you need bicycles in heaven when you are equipped with a
> > > nice pair of wings?
>
> > I hate flying. Heaven must have bicycles or scooters.
>
> > Actually I think scooters are way more fun, but it doesn't keep you
> > fit. And who cares anyway when we all will be fat up there. (This is
> > an educated guess, seeing Christians being lazy and driving to the
> > store.)
>
> > You know, we should drive scooters instead of cars.
>
> I think what the person you were communicating with was saying was
> that should we need transportation in Heaven, we would not need to
> exert ourselves doing so, not that thee were fleets of SUVs carrying
> people around. Of course in an infinitely large space over an
> infinitely large surface, any transportation system eventually becomes
> useless if it runs at a finite speed like all vehicular systems must.
> SUVs, scooters, and even bicycles would be mere diversions in Heaven,
> which would violate the stated purpose of praising the God that
> brought us there, endlessly. From my point of view the only difference
> between the way Heaven and Hell are depicted is the means of torment,
> Hell being physical and Heaven being psychological.

In other words, cyclists suffer both Heaven and Hell. Heaven is the
promise, but Heaven is the reality.

If we got nothing to do up there though what's the point of being
there? Heaven will be Hell!

Even my parrots go crazy when I don't provide them something to do.


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TOPIC: Individual Health Insurance Rates/Plans
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 11:47 am
From: "Bob F"


I was just going through my options on the new Regence plans. Trying to decide
between the three "Evolve HSA" plans. They have one that pays 50%, one that
pays 80%, and the HSA 100 plan that pays 100% after the $5000 deductable. All
three plans have $5000 maximum out-of-pocket. The 50% plan was $258/mo, the 80%
$375/mo for $3500 deductable, and the 100 plan was $485 for $5000 ded. I just
spent a hour on the phone, talking to 3 people to find out what the "HSA 100"
plan had that the others didn't to make it worth the extra money. The final
word - nothing. For the extra money, you just don't get paid anything until you
get to $5000 out-of-pocket. After that, all the plans pay the same. So the
cheaper plans pay significantly more. The 3rd guy I talked to at Regence said he
could get no answer to explain the high cost of the HSA 100 plan from his
management.

Additionally, Calculating the extra cost of the lower deductable plans, it turns
out that the cost difference is higher than the difference in what they would
pay me, worst case. So lower deductables just make no sense in my case.

I decided against their "Evolve Core" plans because the maximum out-of-pocket is
twice as high as the HSA plans - a $7500 "coinsurance max" plus the deductable
of $2500-$10000.

I was told I had, by law, till the end of this month to make a change after they
came up with these new plans. I just faxed the form in for my change. Maybe
others should look at their options


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